Tyre Noise

rustynutz · **Reply #60: July 07, 2014, 11:18:26**

It's not just Hyundai that suffer with road noise. Do a search and you'll see Mazda 3's suffer the same issue. Even the new Corolla isn't immune with plenty of complaints out there.

Google just about any other small car and I'm sure you'll find similar complaints....

Doggie 1 · **Reply #61: July 07, 2014, 11:19:12**

Phil №❶ · **Reply #62: July 07, 2014, 11:19:57**

Quote from: Paulq on July 07, 2014, 11:01:35

Quote from: musicrab on July 07, 2014, 10:58:07
Quote from: Doggie 1 on July 07, 2014, 03:57:37
musicrab.

Tyre noise is an issue for some, but choice of tyres seems to be critical.
In that case Hyundai made a big mistake putting Hancooks on. I cannot believe they test drove the I30 with this tyre on VARIOUS road surfaces.

They did. I have now arranged to sell my i30. I did a 250 mile trip in it at the weekend and on surfaces other than smooth tarmac the car was shockingly noisy. The difference between it and the new car I am getting is night and day. Why would you manufacture a car that (a) is so clearly noisy and (b) to stand any chance of reducing the noise the owner has to fork out c.£400 to experiment with different tyres?

What are you buying, that's so quiet

Paulq · **Reply #63: July 07, 2014, 11:21:12**

Quote from: Doggie 1 on July 07, 2014, 11:06:11

That's a drastic step.

I wouldn't say drastic as I put a lot of thought into it. More of an indication of how poor I feel the i30 is

Doggie 1 · **Reply #64: July 07, 2014, 11:24:32**

Quote from: Paulq on July 07, 2014, 11:21:12

Quote from: Doggie 1 on July 07, 2014, 11:06:11
That's a drastic step.

I wouldn't say drastic as I put a lot of thought into it. More of an indication of how poor I feel the i30 is

Personally, I think that the i30 could, and should, be quieter.
But I can't agree that the car is poor.
It is a very well designed and executed car with mostly positive attributes.
All cars, yes, all cars have faults. IMO the faults on the i30 are minor, given the intended purpose the car was originally designed for.
I'm on my second i30 (and I have owned a lot of cars), and as I've said elsewhere on the forum, so many people can't all be wrong.
However, good luck with whatever you replace it with. I hope it works out for you.

musicrab · **Reply #65: July 07, 2014, 11:29:58**

Quote from: rustynutz on July 07, 2014, 11:18:26

It's not just Hyundai that suffer with road noise. Do a search and you'll see Mazda 3's suffer the same issue. Even the new Corolla isn't immune with plenty of complaints out there.
Google just about any other small car and I'm sure you'll find similar complaints....

The problem is when you come from a quiet car to a noisy car - you notice! My Vauxhall saloon is 15years old and is noticeably quieter than my 6month old I30. (I'm specifically talking about tyre noise here).
And, is the I30 really a "small" car?

rustynutz · **Reply #66: July 07, 2014, 12:47:41**

The trouble is, everyone wants economical cars but with all the gadgets known to man. The 2 don't mix well unfortunately as more weight kills economy. Modern cars weigh heaps more than the equivalent sized car of 15 years ago.

While engines have got more economical, much of this has been cancelled out due to the extra weight needing to be lugged around.
The solution has been to cut back on sound deadening and to make use of lighter materials. These obviously don't deaden the road noise as well.

And as for the i30 being a small car? Well, it certainly is here in Australia...there's basically "Light", which is your Suzuki Alto size cars, "Small", which covers the i30, Corolla, Mazda 3 etc, "Medium" which is your Camry's & Mazda 6's etc & then "Large" which cover Commodore & Falcon etc etc......

The Gonz · **Reply #67: July 07, 2014, 12:55:48**

That's how I see it, Rusty. And yet, as I look at cars while I drive, it's getting harder to spot the difference in size. I think the difference between small and large is getting less every day.

rustynutz · **Reply #68: July 07, 2014, 13:01:25**

musicrab · **Reply #69: July 09, 2014, 12:00:56**

I asked Hyundai UK about the I30/Hankook combination on UK roads and they said, predictably:-

"I can confirm that we have not had any similar reports from other i30 owners, however any comments on road noise are usually generated by a significant difference between the i30 and whatever car the customer had previously, and what tyres were fitted to it. It is true that different makes and models of tyres will generate noise to a widely varying degree due to the friction between the tyre and the road surface.

I can only recommend contacting your local Hyundai service centre to ask them if they can check your car to see if there are any defects that could be causing an excessive noise. If they are unable to find anything untoward, then the noise you are experiencing will be a characteristic of the tyre.

Yours sincerely

Andy Wells
Hyundai Customer Services"

PhireSideZA · **Reply #70: July 17, 2014, 19:36:05**

So I was on my way back to town from Humansdorp and since the roads were quiet I decided to (naughty me...) record the tyre noise from the ContiPremiumContact2 tyres I have fitted. This is on smooth tarmac, basically what most of the main roads are made of here in SA (recently resurfaced and still sealed and black, as opposed to the older style roads where the stones are bare and the road has a very grey and rough appearance).

The i30 is quiet on this road, and you can actually hear the engine more than anything else. In the clip it sounds like there is a bit of wind noise, but there actually isn't

I didn't get much as there were a bunch of bikes on their way past and you can hear the first one going past near the end of the video, just before I stopped filming.

I hope someone finds this useful as I have seen a lot of posts whereby people are saying the i30's are a tad noisy WRT road noise.

Continental ContiPremiumContact2 tyre noise - Hyundai i30 - YouTube

Mike SX · **Reply #71: July 17, 2014, 19:57:20**

That is quiet - you rarely hear my engine over 40 kph - just road noise etc

PhireSideZA · **Reply #72: July 17, 2014, 19:59:58**

Quote from: Mike SX on July 17, 2014, 19:57:20

That is quiet - you rarely hear my engine over 40 kph - just road noise etc

Mike

What is your road surface like? The sealed roads seem to fare better than the bare grey ones like we have hear. I should actually tomorrow record the same speed on the yucky grey asphalt we have here for reference purposes.

What tyres are you running at the moment?

Mike SX · **Reply #73: July 17, 2014, 20:23:21**

The original Hankook K415's.
Road surfaces are awful here - just returned from the Isle of Wight where you can barely hear the passengers speak. Part of the M25 is concrete and is really noisy, each surface seems different.
When it's time to change tyres, I'll try your Continentals - Alan Ho swears by them, and I'm not up for much arguing

Paulq · **Reply #74: July 17, 2014, 20:40:06**

That's exactly how I found them to be - simply too noisy. I am no longer an i30 owner so I'll check out of this thread but thanks to everyone for the replies, suggestions and ideas. I hope that you continue to enjoy your cars!

musicrab · **Reply #75: July 17, 2014, 21:13:14**

Quote from: Mike SX on July 17, 2014, 20:23:21

The original Hankook K415's.
Road surfaces are awful here [UK]

Just done a 1000mile trip with the Hankook K425's. Very noisy but on my trip most of the M1 has new "quiet" tarmac and makes a big differennce. Slightly worried that I can feel a bit of road through the clutch (when in use) but I think I'm just a bit paranoid:-) Car is fine other than that. Oh, but the Aircon is on the weak side (it was 30decC in the UK today.)

Mike SX · **Reply #76: July 17, 2014, 22:01:33**

Quote from: musicrab on July 17, 2014, 21:13:14

Oh, but the Aircon is on the weak side (it was 30decC in the UK today.)

But the refrigerant used in i30 might help the ozone layer

pug20g · **Reply #77: August 02, 2014, 03:47:10**

I just took delivery of my i30 diesel and from the factory it has Nexen Roadian 581 (also an eco tyre). The vehicle I test drove just two weeks prior had Hankook Kinergy. Both cars were the same grade & spec (apart from colour) on the lot of the same dealer. I can't tell the difference between these two eco tyres on the i30 but they seem to be just a tad quieter than a 2014 Mazda3 on very similar sized tyres.

Hopefully I still have some time off before I have to consider replacements!

Doggie 1 · **Reply #78: August 03, 2014, 02:29:23**

I just replaced my original Nexens at 77500 kms.

The Gonz · **Reply #79: August 03, 2014, 03:58:42**

My front Kumhos were replaced at ~55K due to inner shoulder wear / alignment. The rear ones are still on at 65K.

stephen graham · **Reply #80: June 04, 2015, 08:33:02**

Any news on the dunlops? Thinking of same ones for same reason!

mrcarrotcake · **Reply #81: November 15, 2015, 09:18:45**

UK road surfaces vary so much. the surfaces with lots of stone chips are very noisy, especially when they have become worn. Some surfaces can be almost silent. I wish they'd stop laying noisy surfaces. It's even worse if you drive a van as the noise reverberates in the back.

Surferdude · **Reply #82: November 15, 2015, 16:59:41**

It seems to me the coarse surface would give much better grip in wet or icy conditions.
So a bit of road noise seems like a fair trade off for extra safety.

mrcarrotcake · **Reply #83: November 15, 2015, 18:26:15**

Quote from: Surferdude on November 15, 2015, 16:59:41

It seems to me the coarse surface would give much better grip in wet or icy conditions.
So a bit of road noise seems like a fair trade off for extra safety.

I prefer peace and quiet.

Surferdude · **Reply #84: November 15, 2015, 19:06:29**

Quote from: mrcarrotcake on November 15, 2015, 18:26:15

Quote from: Surferdude on November 15, 2015, 16:59:41
It seems to me the coarse surface would give much better grip in wet or icy conditions.
So a bit of road noise seems like a fair trade off for extra safety.

I prefer peace and quiet.

The people in cars coming towards you on a wet and windy road might beg to differ.
IMHO, as drivers we have a responsibility to ensure our vehicle is in the best possible condition to provide a safe environment for all road users.

mrcarrotcake · **Reply #85: November 21, 2015, 15:03:12**

Quote from: Surferdude on November 15, 2015, 19:06:29

Quote from: mrcarrotcake on November 15, 2015, 18:26:15
Quote from: Surferdude on November 15, 2015, 16:59:41
It seems to me the coarse surface would give much better grip in wet or icy conditions.
So a bit of road noise seems like a fair trade off for extra safety.

I prefer peace and quiet.
The people in cars coming towards you on a wet and windy road might beg to differ.
IMHO, as drivers we have a responsibility to ensure our vehicle is in the best possible condition to provide a safe environment for all road users.

What has our vehicle's condition got to do with the road surface?

Also do you have any evidence that the road surfaces which are basically stones protruding from tar are better for grip than a smoother to the eye road surface?

Surferdude · **Reply #86: November 21, 2015, 18:48:38**

^
It was in response to your comment about preferring quiet, which suggested you were prepared to sacrifice safety ffor quietnes.
As for road surfaces, road authorities the world over spend millions researching such stuff. As do tyre manufacturers and road safety authorities.
Their findings are pretty much public records and support what I'm suggesting.
As does common sense.

mrcarrotcake · **Reply #87: November 22, 2015, 14:31:09**

Quote from: Surferdude on November 21, 2015, 18:48:38

^
It was in response to your comment about preferring quiet, which suggested you were prepared to sacrifice safety ffor quietnes.
As for road surfaces, road authorities the world over spend millions researching such stuff. As do tyre manufacturers and road safety authorities.
Their findings are pretty much public records and support what I'm suggesting.
As does common sense.

Can you show me this research? Why are roads in other countries quieter? With a less coarse road surface you are actually going to get more contact between the road and the tyre. Your point doesnt explain why some roads in UK are nice and quiet and others are not.

CraigB · **Reply #88: November 22, 2015, 15:23:58**

Quote from: mrcarrotcake on November 22, 2015, 14:31:09

With a less coarse road surface you are actually going to get more contact between the road and the tyre.

Road surfaces depend on many factors, high or low traffic usage - pitch and angle - speed - rain - snow - ice -heat, all these can decide the types of surface to be used in any different area.

Smooth surface roads maybe quiet but in areas where run off isn't efficient enough aquaplaning can occur, very coarse surfaces can be better for roads that ice up to an extent so many factors need to be taken into account.

Dazzler · **Reply #89: November 22, 2015, 20:15:33**

I think course surfaces giving more grip is just plain logic. Like non slip tiles versus tiles with a gloss finish or rubber soled shoes with a corrugated sole versus leather soled shoes with a smooth sole. I would prefer all road surfaces to have a medium surface which gives some grip but is not too noisy. Many of our roads in Tasmania are either really smooth and quiet to drive on, or (mostly) very coarse and generate lots of road noise even in my relatively up market Calais..