My new i30 Wagon has arrived

tohis · **September 27, 2013, 22:21:03**

Hi folks,

My long wait is over.

I got my new toy at Tuesday. There's about 390 km at odometer right now and so far I've been very happy with it. This is a big step forward from my previous '05 Nissan Almera, which was bland and not so nice to drive, but very reliable car which never let me stranded. I hope the i30 will do the same.

The only real downside is the road noise. That will be even worse with studded winter tyres, which makes their distinctive groaning and scratching sounds in snow-free highways. Furthermore, studded winter tyres causes significant wear to Finnish asphalt roads making them rough, which is the main reason of noisy driving experience. At minor countryside roads which doesn't stay snow free, it's way more quiet ride than in highways. Still we refuse to abandon studded tyres because of their safety benefits in icy roads. At mid October it will already be time to change winter tyres...

I felt the steering to be little quirky in highways, which seems to be typical to electric power steering. The problem nearly disappeared by changing the steering mode to Sport. It still doesn't tend to go dead straight, but it's now good enough that you can get used to it.

Like I expected, I'm not a fan of ISG. It has already got me few times by shutting off the engine at traffic lights. Instinctively I thought that I forgot to switch to Neutral and I stalled the engine; then by pressing the clutch the engine started again. This is not for me! I feel the only good thing of the ISG is reduced CO2 emission and therefore reduced tax. Fortunately the ISG can be switched off by pressing that button, but you have to do that every time when starting.

Otherwise:

Ugly Mongrel · **Reply #1: September 27, 2013, 22:25:41**

Congratulations, tohis.

Great photos of your new baby. BTW, will you be sending out invitations to the christening?

Dazzler · **Reply #2: September 27, 2013, 22:51:50**

Very nice tohis! Thanks for the photos

I love ISG (well the similar system I have in my Camry Hybrid anyway) I think it is great when stopped at the lights or in traffic that I am not wasting fuel like most of those around me. Plus I like the quietness.

Apparently it doesn't save huge amounts of fuel on the i30 but I wouldn't be switching it off

Phil №❶ · **Reply #3: September 27, 2013, 23:51:47**

@tohis,

You'll get used to your car after a few weeks. It took a while for me too. I've never had ISG, but I would also be disabling it too. The money saved on juice, will be spent eventually on a battery or starter motor, IMO.

BTW, seen the prices of batteries lately, hideous.

Dazzler · **Reply #4: September 27, 2013, 23:56:33**

Quote from: Phil №❶ on September 27, 2013, 23:51:47

The money saved on juice, will be spent eventually on a battery or starter motor, IMO.

I don't think that is the case Phil

rustynutz · **Reply #5: September 28, 2013, 04:19:58**

Logic would suggest that if a starter motor is being used more often, it's gonna wear out quicker...

Phil №❶ · **Reply #6: September 28, 2013, 06:58:40**

Quote from: Dazzler on September 27, 2013, 23:56:33

Quote from: Phil №❶ on September 27, 2013, 23:51:47
The money saved on juice, will be spent eventually on a battery or starter motor, IMO.

I don't think that is the case Phil

In your case it isn't, you don't keep 'em long enough.

Dazzler · **Reply #7: September 28, 2013, 07:24:55**

Quote from: rustynutz on September 28, 2013, 04:19:58

Logic would suggest that if a starter motor is being used more often, it's gonna wear out quicker...

Quote from: Phil №❶ on September 28, 2013, 06:58:40

Quote from: Dazzler on September 27, 2013, 23:56:33
Quote from: Phil №❶ on September 27, 2013, 23:51:47
The money saved on juice, will be spent eventually on a battery or starter motor, IMO.

I don't think that is the case Phil

In your case it isn't, you don't keep 'em long enough.

They don't all use the starter motor with ISG (I know mine doesn't)

Phil №❶ · **Reply #8: September 28, 2013, 07:30:01**

How does it start then.

Dazzler · **Reply #9: September 28, 2013, 07:32:22**

TBH I'm not sure of the exact mechanics without googling it (I might do that later) and hope I'm right

rustynutz · **Reply #10: September 28, 2013, 07:53:54**

Big rubber band, perhaps?

Just Rick · **Reply #11: September 28, 2013, 08:06:51**

Quote from: rustynutz on September 28, 2013, 07:53:54

Big rubber band, perhaps?

and big rubbers aren't cheap anymore

tohis congratulations on your new car

Dazzler · **Reply #12: September 28, 2013, 08:25:57**

"Some implementations do not use a starter motor, eliminating concerns of starter motor wear. Mazda i-stop used in their Mazda3/Axela line (in Europe and JDM) uses combustion to restart their engine by sensing the position of the piston in the cylinder. They claim quieter and quicker engine restart within 0.35 seconds"

From here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Start-stop_system

Pretty sure mine uses a 2nd electric motor to restart

AlanHo · **Reply #13: September 28, 2013, 08:35:14**

The Mazda method will only apply to a petrol engine.

I had my reservations about ISG but after further experiments am now satisfied that it does indeed save - in my case - roughly 4% on fuel consumption. This works out at a saving for me of almost £70 per year.

In any event, with a 5 year warranty on the car - I am not at all concerned about starter motor failure.

Mike SX · **Reply #14: September 28, 2013, 08:49:46**

Quote from: Phil №❶ on September 28, 2013, 07:30:01

How does it start then.

I know, but Generators used in desert conditions, (because of battery failures etc.), & prior to shutting down, fill a compressed air tank, this tank pressure is then used to restart.

Dazzler · **Reply #15: September 28, 2013, 09:22:57**

Quote from: Interphase on September 28, 2013, 08:49:46

Quote from: Phil №❶ on September 28, 2013, 07:30:01
How does it start then.

I know, but Generators used in desert conditions, (because of battery failures etc.), & prior to shutting down, fill a compressed air tank, this tank pressure is then used to restart.

tanks Mike

rustynutz · **Reply #16: September 28, 2013, 13:46:30**

Quote from: Dazzler on September 28, 2013, 08:25:57

Pretty sure mine uses a 2nd electric motor to restart

So, a starter motor then?

tohis · **Reply #17: September 28, 2013, 19:54:22**

The number of the beast, and Leet:

Dazzler · **Reply #18: September 28, 2013, 22:05:08**

Quote from: tohis on September 28, 2013, 19:54:22

The number of the beast, and Leet:

Phil №❶ · **Reply #19: September 28, 2013, 22:47:22**

tohis · **Reply #20: September 29, 2013, 18:42:42**

Phew, I didn't misfuel it.

You must be really drowsy to miss those warnings. This is my first diesel car, so there's a risk to instinctively pick up the 95E nozzle like I have done for years. My average consumption was 5.4 L/100km.

potnodleman · **Reply #21: September 29, 2013, 22:43:42**

I would have thought they would display the speed in both km/h and mph on the dials like mine does except the mph is in bigger font

Dazzler · **Reply #22: September 29, 2013, 23:22:42**

Quote from: potnodleman on September 29, 2013, 22:43:42

I would have thought they would display the speed in both km/h and mph on the dials like mine does except the mph is in bigger font

We are a long way from anywhere that uses MPH

Phil №❶ · **Reply #23: September 30, 2013, 00:31:02**

Quote from: tohis on September 29, 2013, 18:42:42

Phew, I didn't misfuel it. You must be really drowsy to miss those warnings. This is my first diesel car, so there's a risk to instinctively pick up the 95E nozzle like I have done for years. My average consumption was 5.4 L/100km.

Contact this supplier, they post in Australia only, but they may be able to supply you with this. I have them on my car, can't mis-fuel.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hyundai-iLoad-iMax-Santa-Fe./...

Doggie 1 · **Reply #24: September 30, 2013, 07:46:29**

Quote from: tohis on September 29, 2013, 18:42:42

Phew, I didn't misfuel it. You must be really drowsy to miss those warnings.

Believe it or not, some have....

Congratulations on your car.

beerman · **Reply #25: September 30, 2013, 09:34:59**

Congratulations on the new wagon, I will follow your ownership with interest....Not too many GD wagons on here yet. Now that Kev is gone, I have some car decisions to make in June 2015.....

Oh you didn't happen to see any Deloreans while you were picking it up did you....

tohis · **Reply #26: September 30, 2013, 19:49:12**

Quote from: beerman on September 30, 2013, 09:34:59

Congratulations on the new wagon, I will follow your ownership with interest....Not too many GD wagons on here yet. Now that Kev is gone, I have some car decisions to make in June 2015.....

Oh you didn't happen to see any Deloreans while you were picking it up did you....

I have noticed the same that most i30s here seems to be hatchbacks.

Nope, I didn't see the DeLorean again; maybe it was gone to another time line

Glacius · **Reply #27: October 10, 2013, 12:30:22**

Great car dude! I love the wagon version looks so sleek would love to see this one with my vinyl, lowered with tints haha

maybe one day

beerman · **Reply #28: October 10, 2013, 13:24:57**

Quote from: tohis on September 30, 2013, 19:49:12

Quote from: beerman on September 30, 2013, 09:34:59
Congratulations on the new wagon, I will follow your ownership with interest....Not too many GD wagons on here yet. Now that Kev is gone, I have some car decisions to make in June 2015.....

Oh you didn't happen to see any Deloreans while you were picking it up did you....

I have noticed the same that most i30s here seems to be hatchbacks.

Nope, I didn't see the DeLorean again; maybe it was gone to another time line

Real men drive wagons.....

tohis · **Reply #29: October 20, 2013, 19:00:15**

Winter is approaching and we got the first snow, but according to weather forecast it will melt away next week. With studded winter tyres my baby performed quite well in slippery roads, although you still need to drive almost granny-style in bad conditions. Those slush build-ups in mudguards should be kicked off after driving to prevent them freezing up and possibly interfering with tyres later.

I had a little mishap when changing tyres. I had my winter tyres put to basic steel rims which are then covered by hubcaps. After changing all tyres I found out that the centers of hubcaps must be under the wheel nuts!

So, I had to remove all nuts from every wheel to get the hubcaps on, including lifting corners by car jack again, as it would have collapsed without support when removing all nuts. I haven't had those kind of hubcaps before, but I think I'll remember it next time...