[Doggie 1]

Thoughts with those poor hostages and their families.
Here's hoping for all of the innocents to be freed safely and just one death.

Martin Place cafe: Five hostages escape, terrorist siege still active

[The Gonz]

Those 5 early releases look promising.

[Doggie 1]

Yes.
I hope they are all released safely -1.

[The Gonz]

Assuming this is an IMG that values martyrdom, I think life behind bars is a better message.

[FatBoy]

I would like to see one less death than Doggie would.  You wouldn't want to make a martyr out of him.

[Doggie 1]

Assuming this is an IMG that values martyrdom, I think life behind bars is a better message.

I understand that, but I hope he dies.
I don't want any of my taxes to go towards maintaining a lowlife like that.
He might recognise martyrdom. I don't.
Happy to disagree.   

[FatBoy]

I don't believe in martyrdom either, but other people of his religious faith do, and it might encourage more.

[Doggie 1]

True.
But I'm for western values in our western country.
I'm not changing my views to fit in with whatever their beliefs might be.
Kill or threaten to kill our citizens in the name of whatever - see ya.

[beerman]

Thoughts with the hostages and those who run towards something everyone else runs away from. They are all under tremendous pressure.

I don't think old mate will talk so what happens to him is immaterial.

[The Gonz]

Adrenalin levels through the roof, every second a potential decider, anticipation way ahead of reflection, long hours putting physical comfort last, entrusting your safety to teamwork... all feels familiar.

All the best to the boys and girls on the job.

[eye30]

Just one of the many articles reported here

5 flee as Sydney cafe siege goes on - BT

[Doggie 1]

Adrenalin levels through the roof, every second a potential decider, anticipation way ahead of reflection, long hours putting physical comfort last, entrusting your safety to teamwork... all feels familiar.

All the best to the boys and girls on the job.

 

[CraigB]

The televised footage of todays events is exactly what this guy and his cause wanted, imo they should have shot him in the head five minutes after he was discovered and let that be a message to those scumbags... anyone else tries this crap again and you'll get the same treatment.

[cruiserfied]

Too bad that'll never happen in this country
1 man with a pump action shotgun which he's wearing on his back from the reports. Dunno if I could have held on 13 hours without at least trying to take him down. But that's me talking from my nice safe kitchen

[beerman]

The televised footage of todays events is exactly what this guy and his cause wanted, imo they should have shot him in the head five minutes after he was discovered and let that be a message to those scumbags... anyone else tries this crap again and you'll get the same treatment.

Easy solution in theory.

Until you discover old mate you just shot in the head is actually a paranoid schizophrenic with delusions.....

[The Gonz]

So little information, so much speculation. Let's trust the experts with the intel to think strategically, meaning big-picture consequences.

[beerman]

All will become clear in time.  Hopefully with all the hostages safe and well.

What I am becoming annoyed with is the media's need to fill blank time with speculation and mindless chatter, regardless of what effect it might have.

[CraigB]

The televised footage of todays events is exactly what this guy and his cause wanted, imo they should have shot him in the head five minutes after he was discovered and let that be a message to those scumbags... anyone else tries this crap again and you'll get the same treatment.

Easy solution in theory.

Until you discover old mate you just shot in the head is actually a paranoid schizophrenic with delusions.....

Personally the same solution would resolve that problem also

[cruiserfied]

My prediction is suicide with no hostages injured.

[FatBoy]

My prediction is that in the wee small hours it will get extremely dark in the centre of Sydney, and men dressed in black with NVGs and will enter the building, capturing the criminal and releasing the hostages.

Or not.

50/50 chance.  Something like that will happen, or it won't.

[eye30]

You've been watching too much 24 or homelands....



Or
Die hard fims

[Just Rick]

Sorry, OMO any person found guilty of Islamic extremism In Australia should be put on a plane and sent back the where the problem originated, whether their Australian Born,Imports or converts.

[CraigB]

All over, 3 dead (one is the assailant ) and 3 injured they should know how these things always end and should have shot him straight off this morning before anyone else gets hurt.

[eye30]

Australia commandos end Sydney cafe siege


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-30485355

Who is other?
Friend or foe?
Who shot them?

[CraigB]

They are not commandos, their TRG police - Tactical Response Group.

Other person killed was a customer/hostage/friend plus another hostage has just died from a heart attack

Police shot gunman after he shot hostage.

[Dazzler]

What I am becoming annoyed with is the media's need to fill blank time with speculation and mindless chatter, regardless of what effect it might have.

 

The televised footage of todays events is exactly what this guy and his cause wanted, imo they should have shot him in the head five minutes after he was discovered and let that be a message to those scumbags... anyone else tries this crap again and you'll get the same treatment.

I know (for various reasons) they couldn't do this ... but at the same time I tend to have similar thoughts to Craig...

As usual it was a media beat up with a lot of unnecessary repeating of the same 10 minutes of footage. They revel in the  footage of overseas TV broadcasts  and quotes from overseas leaders etc... I think the media causes a lot of the stress for the immediate family of the hostages and other directly effected people. 

[FatBoy]

There may have been Commandos there.  2nd Commando Regiment is Sydney based and operate and train regularly with police forces.

A sad outcome.  Three too many deaths.

Let us not be armchair hostage/terroist 20/20 hindsight experts.  Let us see what the official outcome is.

My thoughts are with all of those involved.

[Dazzler]

Like others have already said I feel deeply for those who lost family in this mindless act and for the hostages who will no doubt be affected in some way for the rest of their lives. 

[The Gonz]

Given his string of convictions, what was this looney still doing loose on our streets? I don't get it.

[Surferdude]

Given his string of convictions, what was this looney still doing loose on our streets? I don't get it.

My thoughts exactly, Gonz.