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MODIFYING OR DETAILING YOUR I30 => TYRES | WHEELS | BRAKES => Topic started by: Raid on July 29, 2015, 10:23:40

Title: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: Raid on July 29, 2015, 10:23:40
Hey guys I'm in the process of buying an i30 active 1.4 petrol but it seem the car comes with the 15" rims but any way I can get the dealer to chance it for me for a bigger one plz and I know you would suggest that I buy a set of rims but I have been told by hy it would cost me 1200 pound for a set so thinking if I can go any other way of getting one from them plz thanks
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: Doggie 1 on July 29, 2015, 10:27:25
Genuine Hyundai rims are expensive.
Go aftermarket or second hand Hyundai rims if you want to go bigger.
Just remember that every inch bigger you go, costs you in ride comfort and noise, but they do look better.
So it's a case of getting the right mix of size, comfort & looks - whatever you're happy with.  :)
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: Raid on July 29, 2015, 11:05:40
Thanks doggie I think 16 " will do for me and will have to have a look around for them thanks mate
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: Doggie 1 on July 29, 2015, 11:07:45
I bought genuine Hyundai second hand alloys from CraigB and I'm happy with the compromise in all ways.  :goodjob2:
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: Surferdude on July 29, 2015, 11:16:35
I agree 16" would be fine.
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: cruiserfied on July 29, 2015, 11:26:42
16's will do fine if all you want is to replace steel with alloy.
if you want to get wheels for looks or performance then 17 or even 18 inch will be better.

What is your desire?
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: Dazzler on July 29, 2015, 11:33:34
Genuine Hyundai rims are expensive.
Go aftermarket or second hand Hyundai rims if you want to go bigger.
Just remember that every inch bigger you go, costs you in ride comfort and noise, but they do look better.
So it's a case of getting the right mix of size, comfort & looks - whatever you're happy with.  :)

Bigger wheels obviously means bigger tyres = more cost.

In Australia you can get some good deals on selected wheel and tyre packages but do some research on the tyres offered as some are noisier than others.

I assume there are similar deals on offer in the UK.  :cool:
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: Raid on July 29, 2015, 11:43:11
Will do Dazzler thanks mate
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: AlanHo on July 29, 2015, 12:01:25
My original i30 FD had 17" rims and low profile tyres. It was a harsh and noisy ride - even when I changed to continental quieter tyres.

This put me off low profile tyres for life.

Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: eye30 on July 29, 2015, 12:04:23
Why do you want to change give your low annual mileage?

On my car i'm more than happy with the 15"
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: Raid on July 29, 2015, 12:37:42
It doesn't look that nice with the 15" wanted to have 16" lol
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: eye30 on July 29, 2015, 15:18:01
Won't have a margin effect on speedo/odo teading?
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: CraigB on July 29, 2015, 15:21:56
Won't have a margin effect on speedo/odo teading?
Not if the tyre profile is sized correctly so the overall diameter is the same as the 15's, bigger wheel = smaller profile tyre
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: Raid on July 29, 2015, 17:01:35
Any pics for example plz craigb?
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: Raid on July 29, 2015, 17:24:32
16's will do fine if all you want is to replace steel with alloy.
if you want to get wheels for looks or performance then 17 or even 18 inch will be better.

What is your desire?
I'm after looks and why would 17 or 18" would give you a better performance plz cruiswrfied?
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: Raid on July 29, 2015, 17:26:31
Why do you want to change give your low annual mileage?

On my car i'm more than happy with the 15"
Mate would you mind to send me a pic of your alloy on your car so I can have a look plz thanks
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: CraigB on July 29, 2015, 17:36:26
Any pics for example plz craigb?
There are plenty of pic's in the gallery and also several in the wheels and tyres board.
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: Raid on July 29, 2015, 17:37:28
Any pics for example plz craigb?
There are plenty of pic's in the gallery and also several in the wheels and tyres board.
Graigb can't find 15" one unless you got a link plz
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: CraigB on July 29, 2015, 17:51:36
I don't know off hand of any pictures for the 15's, our i30's in Australia don't use 15's so you'll have to look around the forum or search the web for pic's.

Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: Dazzler on July 30, 2015, 00:24:38
Any pics for example plz craigb?
There are plenty of pic's in the gallery and also several in the wheels and tyres board.
Graigb can't find 15" one unless you got a link plz

The larger wheels as well as meaning dearer tyres also give you a lower profile tyre which usually makes the ride firmer/harsher and can increase tyre noise as hinted at by Alan Ho.

Why not wait until you go and collect your car and ask them to show you other models in the yard with 16" wheels as a comparison. Will not be a huge visual difference. Not sure if your car model comes with Alloys or steel wheels and covers? To improve the look of some of my wife's previous cars we kept the same tyres(to save cost) but upgraded the steel wheels to nice alloy wheels that were on special.
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: Raid on July 30, 2015, 00:27:24
Any pics for example plz craigb?
There are plenty of pic's in the gallery and also several in the wheels and tyres board.
Graigb can't find 15" one unless you got a link plz

The larger wheels as well as meaning dearer tyres also give you a lower profile tyre which usually makes the ride firmer/harsher and can increase tyre noise as hinted at by Alan Ho.

Why not wait until you go and collect your car and ask them to show you other models in the yard with 16" wheels as a comparison. Will not be a huge visual difference. Not sure if your car model comes with Alloys or steel wheels and covers? To improve the look of some of my wife's previous cars we kept the same tyres(to save cost) but upgraded the steel wheels to nice alloy wheels that were on special.
Thanks for your input dazzler but how would I know if its alloy or steel for sure plz and yep will do as you said will wait and have a look around the yard then thanks mate
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: Raid on July 30, 2015, 00:33:23
Any pics for example plz craigb?
There are plenty of pic's in the gallery and also several in the wheels and tyres board.
Graigb can't find 15" one unless you got a link plz

The larger wheels as well as meaning dearer tyres also give you a lower profile tyre which usually makes the ride firmer/harsher and can increase tyre noise as hinted at by Alan Ho.

Why not wait until you go and collect your car and ask them to show you other models in the yard with 16" wheels as a comparison. Will not be a huge visual difference. Not sure if your car model comes with Alloys or steel wheels and covers? To improve the look of some of my wife's previous cars we kept the same tyres(to save cost) but upgraded the steel wheels to nice alloy wheels that were on special.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/29/440990b31edd54e2fd3e53a7f40afffb.jpg)

Dazzler here it is. Is that steel or proper alloy plz sorry new to all that thanks for all your help mate
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: Dazzler on July 30, 2015, 00:50:24
They are definitely alloy and quite nice (similar to the 16" wheels on my wife's tourer on signature picture below)
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: Raid on July 30, 2015, 05:11:24
They are definitely alloy and quite nice (similar to the 16" wheels on my wife's tourer on signature picture below)
Thanks a lot dazzler that's a big boost for me mate
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: eye30 on July 30, 2015, 07:57:09
Alloys.......same as on my car
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: mrcarrotcake on November 15, 2015, 13:16:19
16's will do fine if all you want is to replace steel with alloy.
if you want to get wheels for looks or performance then 17 or even 18 inch will be better.

What is your desire?

I dont think 17 inch will give better performance. They will probably be heavier.
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: CraigB on November 15, 2015, 13:54:01
16's will do fine if all you want is to replace steel with alloy.
if you want to get wheels for looks or performance then 17 or even 18 inch will be better.

What is your desire?

I dont think 17 inch will give better performance. They will probably be heavier.
Depending on the brand some may be heavier or lighter, performance will come via handling as larger wheels will require smaller profile tyres which are generally stiffer in the sidewalls giving better cornering.
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: mrcarrotcake on November 15, 2015, 13:58:15
Perhaps but I think 17" will weigh more unless you go for a magnesium alloy which is very expensive. The extra unsprung weight will affect handling and ride, especially on uneven surfaces.
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: The Gonz on November 15, 2015, 14:02:07
Craig beat me to it. The assumption of better performance is based on a lower sidewall height (profile) meaning your tyre won't get pulled off track when cornering, so you'll get more precision but at the cost of comfort, like stiffening your suspension. On bad roads you'll also increase your chance of rim damage.
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: CraigB on November 15, 2015, 14:05:43
Perhaps but I think 17" will weigh more unless you go for a magnesium alloy which is very expensive. The extra unsprung weight will affect handling and ride, especially on uneven surfaces.
Magnesium alloy rims are pretty old school technology...I had those on my mini :mrgreen:

CNC machined and semi forged lightweight wheels like Enkei and Koya are only 7.5 kgs each for 18's, that lighter than your standard 15's.
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: mrcarrotcake on November 15, 2015, 15:08:25
Perhaps, but how much do they cost? Porsche uses magnesium alloy wheels on the 911 GT because they are light weight. I used to have a Peugeot 306 and the people who raced 306's used the 15 inch steel wheels because they were lighter than alloy wheels.
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: CraigB on November 15, 2015, 16:06:53
Perhaps, but how much do they cost? Porsche uses magnesium alloy wheels on the 911 GT because they are light weight. I used to have a Peugeot 306 and the people who raced 306's used the 15 inch steel wheels because they were lighter than alloy wheels.
My semi forged Koya's are roughly $350 each.

Basic 15" steels may well be slightly lighter than standard large alloys but the difference would be minimal, they're not lighter than semi forged rims and some of the Weld wheels I used on my drag cars were even lighter.

Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: mrcarrotcake on November 15, 2015, 18:28:06
Perhaps, but how much do they cost? Porsche uses magnesium alloy wheels on the 911 GT because they are light weight. I used to have a Peugeot 306 and the people who raced 306's used the 15 inch steel wheels because they were lighter than alloy wheels.
My semi forged Koya's are roughly $350 each.

Basic 15" steels may well be slightly lighter than standard large alloys but the difference would be minimal, they're not lighter than semi forged rims and some of the Weld wheels I used on my drag cars were even lighter.

I dont think the difference was minimal. We're talking at least a kilo per corner, probably more. You're average OEM alloys are not light weight.
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: Surferdude on November 15, 2015, 19:02:42
After half a lifetime of working with wheels, tyres and suspensions on both road going and competition vehicles I can tell you that, except in  the most high performance track vehicles,  the extra weight per wheel will be of no significant detriment to the car's performance and handling.
But going from 16" to 17 " will have a noticeable benefit for the car.
With the usual proviso as mentioned by Gonz, that the ride will be more stiff (which would be seen as a benefit in the handling area), and the tyre and wheel assembly would be noticeably more susceptible to damage from potholes etc.
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: mrcarrotcake on November 15, 2015, 20:57:32
After half a lifetime of working with wheels, tyres and suspensions on both road going and competition vehicles I can tell you that, except in  the most high performance track vehicles,  the extra weight per wheel will be of no significant detriment to the car's performance and handling.
But going from 16" to 17 " will have a noticeable benefit for the car.
With the usual proviso as mentioned by Gonz, that the ride will be more stiff (which would be seen as a benefit in the handling area), and the tyre and wheel assembly would be noticeably more susceptible to damage from potholes etc.

The difference becomes more noticeable if the damping of the suspension isnt that hi-tech. Which is true of these cars.
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: Shambles on November 15, 2015, 21:18:18
What's a "Kia Cee's" (your signature) ?
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: The Gonz on November 16, 2015, 01:42:19
What's a "Kia Cee's" (your signature) ?
I think the S and D are too close together on his keyboard. :whistler:
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: rustynutz on November 16, 2015, 02:45:22
Or: :link: Urban Dictionary: cee (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cee)   :rofl:

No offence intended, mrcarrotcake...  :whistler:
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: MetalDan on December 18, 2015, 05:44:11
I went to look at an i30cw yesterday and really liked the car, which has 17" rims on it (I can't remember but I'm assuming they'd be 225/45R17). As mentioned in the above post people are saying lower profile means a less comfy ride, one big problem I have now is that my stiff 4WD suspension in my current car wakes up my 9 month old baby, which is not good for my serenity...

I would prefer some stock 15" rims/wheel package, but will the 17" be that noticeable (i.e. not worth buying the car for)? I guess I could always sell the rims/tyres and buy a 15" set if it annoys me. Also cost doesn't seem too bad for the smaller profile tyres, an extra $50 or so for each tyre compared to the 15" alternative.

Thanks for any info :)
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: Phil №❶ on December 18, 2015, 06:00:41
Depends on what roads you drive on. For city and country driving out 17's are fine. The i30 is a small vehicle compared to 4WD etc and it will never soak up bumps like a large vehicle, no matter what you do. However, we are happy with our vehicle as is.
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: Doggie 1 on December 18, 2015, 07:25:49
As you say you can always sell them and get some smaller diameter rims if you don't like them, so no big issue.
Go for it, I'd say.  :)
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: Dazzler on December 18, 2015, 07:46:23
Sounds like you were looking at a sportswagon with the chrome look wheel inserts and the upgraded trim etc.. They are petrol only and pretty rare if that is the case. The 17's fill the arches nicely. Obviously you need to test drive it on a mixture of surfaces before you commit.
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: Surferdude on December 18, 2015, 08:11:51
Dazz is right.
Longish test drive  is required.
Title: Re: From 15's rims to 16 or 17"
Post by: CraigB on December 18, 2015, 16:17:56
The suspension is reasonably soft on the i30's so 17's shouldn't be an issue, I still find my 18's quite comfortable.

I always found kids will sleep through anything if their tired ( even my loud music :D ), enjoy the extra handling benefits of the 17's and bub will get used to it :)
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