[Phil №❶]

2i30s

So what alignment specs do you use if not Hyundai recommended. 

[baroudeur]

42 psi on all 4,

That's way above recommended! In the event of an accident I wonder what a specialist  investigator might conclude?

[Mel]

I am on my second set of tyres after getting 62000 from the first set. I get a will alignment balance and rotation (from my mate Bob) every 10000kms, and run the tyres with nitrogen. I was happy with that wear for the driving I do and some of the road conditions that I drive on. Our country roads have copped a hiding after the flooding and rain in the last 12 months. I replaced my original  Kumho's with BOB JANE XENON Z7 as I couldn't go past the offer of a free replacement tyre for the first half life of the tyre and a half price in the second half and the dealers are fairly well spread over the countryside if there is a problem. I have used my local Bob for over 6 years without a problem and deal direct with the franchise owner and cant go past paying $55 for the alignment, balance and rotation. I find that they are a little noisy but i think that may have more to do with the suspension of the vehicle  but that's another story....

[Dazzler]

Hey Mel, thanks for all your interesting posts.. I for one am enjoying your feedback and it is generating lots of discussion 

[Mel]

Hey Mel, thanks for all your interesting posts.. I for one am enjoying your feedback and it is generating lots of discussion 

thanks Daz as I spend a lot of my week in the car I guess I get to form a few opinions on what the car can do...  a quick calculation would guess I have spent well over 2000hrs behind the wheel of my I30 in the last 18 months  ... I just wish I had found this group earlier possibly could of solved some problems a lot quicker. You should get them to put a link to this site on the Hyundai site and their page on  facebook.

[Dazzler]

You should get them to put a link to this site on the Hyundai site and their page on  facebook.

I don't think they would do that Mel as  they don't like to acknowledge "unofficial" sites like this...

For example we discourage members from getting their cars serviced at the dealer (unless they get a good deal) and also point members towards ebay for accessories to save a $ 

[meehalych]

I changed my wheels to winter ones yesterday and noted to myself that the rear pair seemed to have worn more than the forward one.

[Surferdude]

42 psi on all 4,

That's way above recommended! In the event of an accident I wonder what a specialist  investigator might conclude?

Might be worth taking the time to read this, or at least skim it (50 pages).
Again, as I have said before, it is low pressure which is at fault in the vast majority of cases. Whilst I can find pages and pages of stuff about under-inflation, I've still to find any definitive info on "extreme" over inflation. (my definition - acknowledged). And 42 isn't in the "extreme" range. It is at the top end of what is acceptable for a passenger tyre.

OK. I have really got the shits now. I CANNOT "paste" onto this site. Initially it was intermittent where if I right mouse click it would give me a different range of options including "back", "reload", "bookmark this page" and so on.and I could get the "paste" option by clicking into different areas of the posting box.
For the last 2 days it will not allow me to paste.
Shambles? Anyone? HELP.

I'm going to type out the page I want - pretty long but I'll give it a go.


www.maic.qld.gov.au/forms-publications-stats/pdfs/tyre-pressure-report-final.pdf

[Shambles]

Try control & V to paste what's on your clipboard

[Surferdude]

Try control & V to paste what's on your clipboard

Thanks Steve.
I tried that (so long since I did it I'd forgotten which letter to use )
It works, but, annoyingly right at this moment, so does the right mouse click function.


Actually, I've just discovered that the right mouse click function only fails to work after I've typed something.
But cntrl+v still works.
2 computers, different locations, same problem and only on this site.

[Shambles]

^-- try posting using a standard-reply box, not the wysiwyg box

[Surferdude]

^-- try posting using a standard-reply box, not the wysiwyg box

OK. I'll try it when I get home from work. Thanks mate.

But, it used to be fine.
All very strange.

[beerman]

Surferdude,

You can say it until your blue in the face (like getting the car serviced elsewhere other than Hyundai), some people won't deviate from what Mr Hyundai says. I'm not saying its a bad thing, after all it is their car, money and even life, but I sure hope they check their tyres every time they fill up.

Me, I know I'm lazy (and I know I'm usually more annoyed than keen to check tyres when I'm refilling the wife's car after I jump in to drive 5k and discover that it has 5.5k of LPG left, but that's another story).

What I do know for a fact, is that if it is all heading towards a world of hurt, which car I would rather be in.

As for the crash investigator, he would be surprised that my tyres were at least at pressure and amazed that that I had actually cared enough to think about tyres, and could give a reason for the pressure.

[Surferdude]

Surferdude,

You can say it until your blue in the face (like getting the car serviced elsewhere other than Hyundai), some people won't deviate from what Mr Hyundai says. I'm not saying its a bad thing, after all it is their car, money and even life, but I sure hope they check their tyres every time they fill up.

That's the key isn't it beerman.
Of course they don't in most cases. Even people who check them every three months or so are running for half that time on pressures way too low for safety and running the risk of long term damage through overheating.

And yes, I agree it's an individual's choice. But, boy it can lead to some serious costs down the track.

Just to clarify what beerman and I are saying here. If you run your tyres at exactly the vehicle manufacturer's pressure, you should not expect any troubles. But at that pressure (a stated "minimum"), as soon as your tyres lose a little pressure (which is an ongoing and constant process), you are placing excess stress and strain on them. So if you run at the minimum, make sure you check and adjust them (cold) at least every couple of weeks.

[daveybaby68]

Ive got a i30 2.0 crdi. with 225/45/17 as standard. my front tyres wear quickly on inside edge and the tyres have only done 8000 miles , got the tracking done, no differece at all. took car to hyundai to report the fault, they said the 2.0crdi is really front end heavy and any slight pot hole will know the steering out of line. they suggested have a 4 wheel laser alignment.
so bought 2 new tyres the same continental sport contacts, had all 4 wheels aligned and touch wood perfect done 4000miles now since new tyres and no wear on them .

If you having uneven wear problems have a 4 wheel alighnment

[Dazzler]

Thanks for your feedback DB68 

[llnocill]

my i30 (my first car) is almost up on the magic 100xxx
my first tyres was changed at about 45xxx, after i some time have had problems with the grip in wet corners.
when i changed them to the winter tyres, i was stunned!
both front wheels was weared out on the inside all into the threads in the tyre. the make was nangkan.
now i have roadstone on my 17" summer wheels, and so far no problems.
i later found out that i had been running on to low tyre pressure on the old tyres, now im running on the maksimum allowed preassure thats written on the new tyres themselfes.
now i am very excited to see how they look when i change back to winter and are able to examine them really detailed, but the times i have checked them and lied down on the ground and looked they seemed fine.
my i30 is the 08, 1,6 crdi.
i run on 225/45/17

[beerman]

G'day all,

Washed the beast yesterday and did a few inspections (So I could feel mechanically able). Apart from refilling the windscreen washer bottle (I like to stay within my limitations and this is something I am capable of), checking the oil ( Don't know why I bothered with the service due in 500km, I guess its good to know, and I was surprised that I had lost a small amount when my Wives Falcon has double the k's and is full for 10k). To get back on topic, I spun the front wheels out and there it was, uneven wear.

Now these are the original tyres that I have been nursing towards 50k (at about 25k I rotated front to back, took the worst of the front to spare and threw the new spare onto the back, with the spare and the new one I should easily do 50k). 

I'm not too concerned, I think there has probably been a lot of changes in the car since kilometre 1, so I'm hoping a wheel alignment will fix her all up nicely.  But uneven tyre wear non the less....

[Surferdude]

G'day all,

Washed the beast yesterday and did a few inspections (So I could feel mechanically able). Apart from refilling the windscreen washer bottle (I like to stay within my limitations and this is something I am capable of), checking the oil ( Don't know why I bothered with the service due in 500km, I guess its good to know, and I was surprised that I had lost a small amount when my Wives Falcon has double the k's and is full for 10k). To get back on topic, I spun the front wheels out and there it was, uneven wear.

Now these are the original tyres that I have been nursing towards 50k (at about 25k I rotated front to back, took the worst of the front to spare and threw the new spare onto the back, with the spare and the new one I should easily do 50k). 

I'm not too concerned, I think there has probably been a lot of changes in the car since kilometre 1, so I'm hoping a wheel alignment will fix her all up nicely.  But uneven tyre wear non the less....

Any wheel alignments in that time beerman?

[Dazzler]

Thanks for the feedback Beerman.. This thread was certainly worth starting 

[2i30s]

2i30s

So what alignment specs do you use if not Hyundai recommended. 

i will look at my last wheel alignment spec print out and post it up tomorrow night,better still ill scan and post up the actual printout .

[llnocill]

my i30 (my first car) is almost up on the magic 100xxx
my first tyres was changed at about 45xxx, after i some time have had problems with the grip in wet corners.
when i changed them to the winter tyres, i was stunned!
both front wheels was weared out on the inside all into the threads in the tyre. the make was nangkan.
now i have roadstone on my 17" summer wheels, and so far no problems.
i later found out that i had been running on to low tyre pressure on the old tyres, now im running on the maksimum allowed preassure thats written on the new tyres themselfes.
now i am very excited to see how they look when i change back to winter and are able to examine them really detailed, but the times i have checked them and lied down on the ground and looked they seemed fine.
my i30 is the 08, 1,6 crdi.
i run on 225/45/17

i have just changed my tyres and running all summer on max preassure and regularly checking the preassure really seemes to reduce the uneven wearing big time! they almost looked like theyre where brand new. it seemes that  it have solved my problem :-)

[beerman]

G'day all,

Washed the beast yesterday and did a few inspections (So I could feel mechanically able). Apart from refilling the windscreen washer bottle (I like to stay within my limitations and this is something I am capable of), checking the oil ( Don't know why I bothered with the service due in 500km, I guess its good to know, and I was surprised that I had lost a small amount when my Wives Falcon has double the k's and is full for 10k). To get back on topic, I spun the front wheels out and there it was, uneven wear.

Now these are the original tyres that I have been nursing towards 50k (at about 25k I rotated front to back, took the worst of the front to spare and threw the new spare onto the back, with the spare and the new one I should easily do 50k). 

I'm not too concerned, I think there has probably been a lot of changes in the car since kilometre 1, so I'm hoping a wheel alignment will fix her all up nicely.  But uneven tyre wear non the less....

Any wheel alignments in that time beerman?

No previous wheel alignment and no wonder, it wouldn't take too many at $70 a pop to exceed the cost of the tyres you are trying to save.

Also asked them to rotate the tyres (which isn't a big ask given they have to put the car onto a hoist undo the wheel nuts to remove the trim, so literally would involve moving the tyres around). Some how this turned into a 'rotate and balance' $40 thanks. I never asked for a wheel balance, there was no need to do a wheel balance, and if I had have been told that to rotate the wheels I would have to have them balanced, I would have had them rotated as a part of the 45k service which will take place next week. But I digress.

Old mate seemed to think that it wasn't out that much and that one of the rear wheels was the worst. I have the print out here. I will try to scan it and upload it later.

Also asked them to rotate the tyres (which isn't a big ask given they have to put the car onto a hoist undo the wheel nuts to remove the trim, so literally would involve moving the tyres around). Some how this turned into a 'rotate and balance' $40 thanks. I never asked for a wheel balance, there was no need to do a wheel balance, and if I had have been told that to rotate the wheels I would have to have them balanced, I would have had them rotated as a part of the 45k service which will take place next week. But I digress.

I imagine that if you rotate the tyres then the balance can be out simply because the wheels are fitted onto a different hub which can have a difference balance themselves. So each time a tyre is "rotated" it could need a re-balance quite legitimately.

Having said that, I have had tyres rotated without charge (nor re-balance) and I have no problem with balance! In fact my Hankooks are going really well as day-to-day tyres although I'm not sure how well they are wearing. It looks like they will only make about 60,000Km when with last car (forget which tyres) I got 80,000Km+.

[eye30]

I imagine that if you rotate the tyres then the balance can be out simply because the wheels are fitted onto a different hub which can have a difference balance themselves. So each time a tyre is "rotated" it could need a re-balance quite legitimately.

I only knew of 1 place that did balancing on the car and I think they have now closed.
All tyre places I'm aware of do "off" car so any imperfections in the wheel hub are not taken into account.

Of course 

[Dazzler]

It looks like they will only make about 60,000Km when with last car (forget which tyres) I got 80,000Km+.

60,000kms is still not bad.. Think I got 55,000 out of my first set on the CRDi 

[Phil №❶]

If tyres are wearing unevenly on the front & evenly at the rear, what is the logic behind rotating the tyres.

[beerman]

The new front ones are the original spare which was on the back, and the wheel which took its place in the hatch. They have significantly more rubber than the ones on the back, hence they take up duty on the front.

As the alignment has been fixed, there should be no issue there, the old fronts go to the rear where the wear is less, and the new spare, which has done duty front then back is practically shagged so goes into the boot.

Easy.

[Surferdude]

I imagine that if you rotate the tyres then the balance can be out simply because the wheels are fitted onto a different hub which can have a difference balance themselves. So each time a tyre is "rotated" it could need a re-balance quite legitimately.

I only knew of 1 place that did balancing on the car and I think they have now closed.
All tyre places I'm aware of do "off" car so any imperfections in the wheel hub are not taken into account.

eye, this used to be a big thinga few years ago, but less so today. The reason th eplaces stopped doing it was because tyres and vehicle components (hubs, drive shafts etc) seem to have improved tolerances and balance is much less of an issue than it was say 20 years ago.