Post by: ouri30 on September 02, 2008, 10:55:08
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HYUNDAI-i30-FULL-LED-TAIL-LIGHTS_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em122QQcategoryZ33716QQihZ007QQitemZ170257364385QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD2V
Bob
Post by: i30mania on September 02, 2008, 12:56:07
Post by: YOSOYPEPO on September 02, 2008, 22:00:57
Post by: Hemmi on September 03, 2008, 09:53:12
The top of the lights looks like painted black, so will this only look good on a black car?
Post by: Alesand on September 03, 2008, 11:23:26
Post by: YOSOYPEPO on September 03, 2008, 12:44:20
Quote from: "Hemmi"
They look good, but I prefer the original design, this one looks like the bmw 1 series lights,is true
The top of the lights looks like painted black, so will this only look good on a black car?
Post by: awj2005 on September 04, 2008, 12:06:06
ash
Post by: slimbimjim on September 07, 2008, 11:06:31
Post by: Hemmi on September 09, 2008, 01:12:24
(http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/389/p82343302635436wk5.th.jpg) (http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p82343302635436wk5.jpg)
(http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/3015/p82343372635436rl3.th.jpg) (http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p82343372635436rl3.jpg)
(http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8492/p82643512635436uv9.th.jpg) (http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p82643512635436uv9.jpg)
(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/9717/p82643442635436hv5.th.jpg) (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p82643442635436hv5.jpg)
Post by: Dazzler on September 09, 2008, 10:49:55
Post by: ouri30 on September 09, 2008, 12:03:31
Bob
Post by: Shame on September 10, 2008, 00:10:55
Post by: Dazzler on September 10, 2008, 10:02:55
Looks like your avatar has gone the same place as eye30's ?
The tall rear tail lights grow on you when you've had the car a while (well they did with me anyway)
But... I still like the wrap around look these lights give...
Post by: Shame on September 11, 2008, 04:04:54
Quote from: "dazzling_darryl"
Hi Shame..Thanks for the heads up - i don't display Avatars at work so i was unaware it'd gone missing.
Looks like your avatar has gone the same place as eye30's ?
The tall rear tail lights grow on you when you've had the car a while (well they did with me anyway)
But... I still like the wrap around look these lights give...
I agree, the wrap around look is great. The other 3 pics are viewable today, i reckon i'm pretty much sold.
Post by: bez10y on September 11, 2008, 07:44:49
Post by: awj2005 on September 15, 2008, 12:18:18
http://itempage3.auction.co.kr/DetailVi ... m2=through (http://itempage3.auction.co.kr/DetailView.aspx?ItemNo=A502097687&frm2=through)
cheers
ash
Post by: EymaTeapot on September 15, 2008, 12:31:19
Checked out that site, couldnt say I could make much sence of most of it, wish I'd paid more attention in Korean classes at school.
I found the segment on the rear spoiler amusing. It has diagrams with arrows showing how the spoiler changes the air and presumable helps create downforce and improves the handling. I put a spoiler on my i30, but I am sure it is purely cosmetic and does little to improve the dynamics of the car.
Post by: Thumper on September 30, 2008, 01:17:51
Totally changes the look of the i30.
More images to come.
8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
Post by: Hemmi on September 30, 2008, 01:54:47
Post by: Thumper on September 30, 2008, 02:10:38
Tail lights are plug and play (IE: Just unbolt old ones, replace with new ones.)
The new LED ones come with load resistors that remove the annoying quick flash of the indicators, and no blown tail light indicator shows on the dash during operation.
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9752/i30p0156991rn0.jpg)
As you can see by the above picture there are two boxes that plug into the lights that simulate a load for the flasher circuit.
Works very well.
All up, took my 5mins per side to change the lights.
:P
Post by: Hemmi on September 30, 2008, 02:15:40
I wonder if I could get this load resistors somewhere for my lights so I wont get the blown tail light indication every time I break.
Post by: Thumper on September 30, 2008, 02:19:40
1) They have load resistors, so no issues with the electrics in the i30
2) They have proper red reflectors in them. Adheres to ADR's and keeps the boys in blue happy.
Post by: Thumper on September 30, 2008, 02:23:07
Quote from: "Hemmi"
nice 8-)
Post by: Hemmi on September 30, 2008, 02:26:51
Quote from: "Thumper"
Quote from: "Hemmi"nice 8-)
thanks, my turn lights blink normal, but I guess this is what I need on the break light circuit, there are tons of electronic parts at work, maybe I'll create one myself
Post by: bez10y on September 30, 2008, 03:15:45
Oh I'm definitely going to think about getting some of those for BEZ...
Post by: ouri30 on September 30, 2008, 07:51:36
They look great. Agree with you when you say it changes to look (very BMW-ish). Having the load resistors is a fantastic idea.
Hemmi,
If you had those load resistors, I think you would have to change your indictor relay back to the origional Hyundai unit.
Bob
Post by: Thumper on October 03, 2008, 02:22:45
I've even been asked if mine is a series two (Face lifted) version.
This far, no issues (Except I used a high pressure water gun, got some water in the lights. Found an air vent hole that didn't have it's cover fitted properly, must of moved in transit. All is good now)
I'm going to mod the LED lights, so that only the lower portion comes on for tail light function, then upper and lower comes on for brake light.
At night, they are extremely bright when you apply the brake!
The reverse lights are rather blueish/whitish.
Indicators are proper yellow (And bright)
The top section is smoked see through plastic, to a black plastic base. Looks like tinted glass, blends in well with the rear window.
Very easy to install.
In my honest opinion, looks a darn sight better than the original lights!
Post by: Dazzler on October 03, 2008, 11:38:20
I tried to post my opinion a couple of nights ago but "Houston" we had a problem
Post by: EymaTeapot on October 03, 2008, 11:46:12
Post by: Hemmi on October 03, 2008, 11:49:26
Quote from: "Thumper"
2) They have proper red reflectors in them. Adheres to ADR's and keeps the boys in blue happy.
My led lights have the same reflectors as the original lights, are there any other led lights with no reflectors?
Post by: Thumper on October 03, 2008, 13:08:22
Quote from: "EymaTeapot"
I have had the pleasure of seeing thumpers car with all mods in person, looks great :evil:
Hehehe, I knew she would! *Grins*
Now you know how bright the HiD low beam is, and the colours it produces.
Quote from: "Hemmi"
My led lights have the same reflectors as the original lights, are there any other led lights with no reflectors?
Yes, I have seen many that are clear, thus either have no reflectors or white reflectors.
In the past many retrofit LED tail lights didn't have any reflectors in them. Looks like most today (If not all) have been manufactured properly.
Post by: davet on October 08, 2008, 14:06:51
Quote from: "Thumper"
Totally changes the look of the i30.
More images to come.
These look fantastic (as well as the debadging!)
sorry if I'm thick but I'm assuming that these are the Korean-originated items referenced in the first post on this topic???????
Thanks,
Dave
Post by: Thumper on October 08, 2008, 21:21:56
Quote from: "davet"
I'm assuming that these are the Korean-originated items referenced in the first post on this topic???????
Thanks,
Dave
Correct.
Post by: L30N on October 10, 2008, 23:18:23
Do they work with/include the rear fog lights?
Post by: Thumper on October 11, 2008, 00:55:38
Quote from: "L30N"
I liked the look of these LEDs too.
Do they work with/include the rear fog lights?
Not sure, since Australian vehicles do not come with that function (Rear fog lights) hence I can not test that for you.
Post by: teamgeorge on October 21, 2008, 10:52:49
Post by: Nessa on October 21, 2008, 15:46:04
Ermm..sorry got a bit too excited there...
I really like the look of the LED lights. When I saw it on ebay, I was unsure about the black part at the top, but it really blends in, regardless of whether the car is black or not. I really really want them now..Very BMW Series 2-ish...very awesome!
Post by: Rubix on November 16, 2008, 11:35:13
Quote from: "Thumper"
So far, two favorable votes (One from an i30 forum member, the other, another i30 owner not on the forum, yet)Make that like 20 now. I like that look way better than the stock i30 look. I even nearly didn't consider buying an i30 because of the standard lights!
Quote from: "Thumper"
I'm going to mod the LED lights, so that only the lower portion comes on for tail light function, then upper and lower comes on for brake light.Does that mean standard install of the replacement lights would have all red LEDs on just at different intensity or ?? And can you tell me how you do this when you do?
Post by: Thumper on November 16, 2008, 20:58:35
Quote from: "Rubix"
Quote from: "Thumper"So far, two favorable votes (One from an i30 forum member, the other, another i30 owner not on the forum, yet)Make that like 20 now. I like that look way better than the stock i30 look. I even nearly didn't consider buying an i30 because of the standard lights!Quote from: "Thumper"I'm going to mod the LED lights, so that only the lower portion comes on for tail light function, then upper and lower comes on for brake light.Does that mean standard install of the replacement lights would have all red LEDs on just at different intensity or ?? And can you tell me how you do this when you do?
I'm now being stopped in the street and asked what kind of Hyundai it is (Is it a special model?) and where did I get the lights from?
Unfortunately the entire circuit is PWM for brightness levels. There is only two wires going to each LED array inside the lights. On parkers, there is a low voltage, on stop light a higher voltage.
The top part of the lamp is clear when off, but red when on. I was going to mod it so the top part only came on when the stop lamps are used (Kinda like a secondary eye level brake light)
Alas, I would need some form of circuit added inside the lamp to make this happen. (I really don't have the time to figure that out, just yet)
More photos of the lamps in operation in the photo thread: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1493 (https://www.i30ownersclub.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1493)
Post by: Rubix on November 17, 2008, 05:08:57
Quote from: "Thumper"
Unfortunately the entire circuit is PWM for brightness levels. There is only two wires going to each LED array inside the lights. On parkers, there is a low voltage, on stop light a higher voltage.
The top part of the lamp is clear when off, but red when on. I was going to mod it so the top part only came on when the stop lamps are used (Kinda like a secondary eye level brake light)
Alas, I would need some form of circuit added inside the lamp to make this happen. (I really don't have the time to figure that out, just yet)
More photos of the lamps in operation in the photo thread: https://www.i30ownersclub.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1493 (https://www.i30ownersclub.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1493)
PWM = ?? Not too good with acronyms
From the picture ouri30 posted - the ebay link - there's only 1 green wire going to the top - so would that mean the brake pedal is sending more power to the lights to make them brighter, and the headlight switch is sending a lower power charge through that same wire? Wouldn't that mean you'd have to separate the driving lights wire from the brakes wire at the dash console? Or if you put a resistor in, it would dampen the brightness of the top brake light so that they didn't go on when the driving lights are on... maybe I should have paid more attention to circuitry in Science class...
Post by: Thumper on November 17, 2008, 07:21:26
Quote from: "Rubix"
PWM = ?? Not too good with acronyms
From the picture ouri30 posted - the ebay link - there's only 1 green wire going to the top - so would that mean the brake pedal is sending more power to the lights to make them brighter, and the headlight switch is sending a lower power charge through that same wire? Wouldn't that mean you'd have to separate the driving lights wire from the brakes wire at the dash console? Or if you put a resistor in, it would dampen the brightness of the top brake light so that they didn't go on when the driving lights are on... maybe I should have paid more attention to circuitry in Science class...
"Pulse-width modulation (PWM) of a signal or power source involves the modulation of its duty cycle, to either convey information over a communications channel or control the amount of power sent to a load."
Both the tail lamp and brake light wires go into the PWM module inside the lamps. There is only two wires to each LED array, positive and negative.
The LED's are not powered continuously, they are pulsed on and off quickly. So quick that your eyes can not see it. (You can see the flicker of an PWM driven LED sometimes near the edge of your peripheral vision, or if you turn your head quickly whilst looking at the light source)
Now the LED's are pulsed at a slower rate for tail lamp (Low powered mode) then are pulsed at a higher rate (High powered mode) for tail lamp, brake light operation.
By putting a resistor on the line could cause issues with the circuit that the top half will not light up during tail lamp only mode, then light up at half brightness during stop light mode. (Also the resistor itself will start to heat up)
Only way I can see to get around this is to get another PWM circuit, feeding it with only the brake light wire, then feeding the output of it to the top LED array.
The other wires you see in the photos are for the reverse lamps and indicator lamp. (The green and black wire to the square box is for the indicator circuit, it creates a false load, so the indicator relay does not flash quickly. Most common problem when using LED's for indicators)
Hope this helps.
Post by: Rubix on November 17, 2008, 11:46:12
At some point between the pedal-and-dash and the wires in the picture, the brake and tail lights wiring would come together, so that only the single green and black wires needed to go into the back of the LEDs... If you kept them as two separate wires all the way from the pedal-and-dash, then you could put both to the bottom, but only the brake ones to the top. That's probably the most difficult way of doing it... and yet easier for me who doesn't know how to take the LEDs part apart and mess with PWM thingies
Post by: i30 Roolz on December 26, 2008, 03:59:07
Can a mechanical simpleton (i.e. me) fit them?
As usual with your mods, well chosen and looks great!! Nice work M8.
Post by: Thumper on December 26, 2008, 09:28:10
Hey there Thumper - can I be so rude as to ask what these cost?
Can a mechanical simpleton (i.e. me) fit them?
As usual with your mods, well chosen and looks great!! Nice work M8.
No problems. :cool: They cost me all up AU$375 since I purchased them when our exchange rate against the US$ was VERY favorable!
Very easy to fit. If you can change a tail light bulb, and use a 10mm socket + Phillips head screwdriver, then you can fit these lights. (I'll be surprised if you take longer than 340mins each side, to hook up and fit)
Cheers, they are something different. :cool:
Post by: L30N on January 11, 2009, 21:14:50
The only problem is despite connecting the supplied load resistors, the indicators flash twice as fast as they should (affects the front indicators and side repeaters too). Could it be a bad connection or faulty resistor box? The hazards flash at the correct speed. I'm just a bit paranoid driving around at the moment!
Post by: Thumper on January 12, 2009, 07:06:11
OK, so I got some rear lights the same as Thumper. Pleased with the look (will post some pics soon) and fitted them at the weekend, nice and easy.
The only problem is despite connecting the supplied load resistors, the indicators flash twice as fast as they should (affects the front indicators and side repeaters too). Could it be a bad connection or faulty resistor box? The hazards flash at the correct speed. I'm just a bit paranoid driving around at the moment!
Make sure the green and black wires from the load box are plugged in properly. (One of mine wasn't, received the dreaded quick flash)
Double check the connections. :cool:
Post by: L30N on January 12, 2009, 20:40:25
Make sure the green and black wires from the load box are plugged in properly. (One of mine wasn't, received the dreaded quick flash)
Double check the connections. :cool:
Thanks Thumper you're a genius - that was exactly the problem, the connectors to the load boxes were both dodgy. I put new connectors on tonight and all is now hunky dory :)
Post by: Thumper on January 13, 2009, 04:05:08
Post by: Treddy85au on February 20, 2009, 13:23:03