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THE GARAGE (SERVICE, MAINTENANCE & REPAIR) => TECHNICAL INFO => Topic started by: Dazzler on February 26, 2019, 21:31:59
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Does anyone know if FD wheel alignment specs are same as GD? I have a mate who is a non member who has an FD ( don't ask) and they set the wheel alignment using GD setting!
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I'm not sure Dazz but I would have thought they'd be different.
If I was him, I'd ask them to show him the two models on their alignment machine. They can pull them up on the screen very easily.
And if they don't have a machine that can do that, they shouldn't be doing wheel alignments.
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I'm not sure Dazz but I would have thought they'd be different.
If I was him, I'd ask them to show him the two models on their alignment machine. They can pull them up on the screen very easily.
And if they don't have a machine that can do that, they shouldn't be doing wheel alignments.
Cheers Trevor, He just got new tyres fitted about an hour away from where he lives, so isn't keen to drive back there in a hurry. If nobody else knows then he will have to ring them. :undecided:
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Im in the same boat, the car doesnt feel the same at turning after the wheel alignment, it doesnt have that same grip on the road feel. I thought it was me, yet looking at the wheel alignment report, it was using GD settings.
Is there some where with the right info where I can get this car re-alignment again? At the moment when I turn, the car seem to roll where previously it doesnt.
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So far I have only pulled up FD specs.
As it happens Im about to do GD front align now.
I cant see that they can use the same program , GD & FD track and wheel base are different .
Adjustments on GD front are limited. Usually just steer center and toe-in,
But you need to know if castor and camber have been affected by gutter hits etc. It is possible to correct this by component change and some moving of sub-frame.
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Thanks Gazz,
I think @Blazorax and my mate both need to point out to the service centres their errors and get it sorted asap.
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I did bring it up with them, and they said GD and PD are the same settings and I took their words for it, yet something still nagging at the back of my mind, just not the same feel at turning. Feel more like my Subaru outback rather than the I30 SR feel
I think i'll make a booking with Bob Jane T Mart and have a chat with them about this the other mob who did the original wheel alignment doesn't seem to know the diff. Currently my SR turn like a fat old lady, not a sexy cat walk model :P
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I did bring it up with them, and they said GD and PD are the same settings and I took their words for it, yet something still nagging at the back of my mind, just not the same feel at turning. Feel more like my Subaru outback rather than the I30 SR feel
In that case Thanh, I'd ring another reputable place and explain the story and ask them if they would mind checking. Or maybe even ring the dealer and see if they know?
My car steers so well with the new Michelins! I wouldn't be surprised if the Alignment was a bit out before. I've got a complimentary follow up wheel alignment in the next week or so. If I remember I'll ask my guys too! :cool:
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Does it roll as you turn around 30-50km on your SR??
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Does it roll as you turn around 30-50km??
Not that I've noticed! The other day when I had my "fang" I was doing some "substantial" speeds :whistler: and she still sat nice and flat and predictable. Minimal understeer or oversteer to speak of. :happydance:
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Yeah .. now I'm convince the other alignment stuffed it up .. i'm going to bring the car to Bob Jane T Mart for them to have a look and hopefully can bring the zing back to my SR.
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Yeah .. now I'm convince the other alignment stuffed it up .. i'm going to bring the car to Bob Jane T Mart for them to have a look and hopefully can bring the zing back to my SR.
Hopefully! :goodjob:
My friend rang his tyre place and said they went and checked and all the same (all may not include the PD) . Reckoned that the guy that did them has been doing them for 14 years and really knows his stuff. :undecided:
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Yeah .. now I'm convince the other alignment stuffed it up .. i'm going to bring the car to Bob Jane T Mart for them to have a look and hopefully can bring the zing back to my SR.
Hopefully! :goodjob:
My friend rang his tyre place and said they went and checked and all the same (all may not include the PD) . Reckoned that the guy that did them has been doing them for 14 years and really knows his stuff. :undecided:
Track (wheel width)
FD Fr 1546 mm Rear 1544 mm
GD Fr 1563 mm Rear 1571 mm
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Yeah .. now I'm convince the other alignment stuffed it up .. i'm going to bring the car to Bob Jane T Mart for them to have a look and hopefully can bring the zing back to my SR.
Hopefully! :goodjob:
My friend rang his tyre place and said they went and checked and all the same (all may not include the PD) . Reckoned that the guy that did them has been doing them for 14 years and really knows his stuff. :undecided:
Track (wheel width)
FD Fr 1546 mm Rear 1544 mm
GD Fr 1563 mm Rear 1571 mm
Thanks mate. I haven't done an alignment although I have seen them done. Can the alignment specs still be the same with different track widths?
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Did you get a print out for the wheel alignment ?
Some specs for FD in this thread... how do they compare ?
:link: Wheel alignment specs for 2011 FDe i30 CRDi (https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=16639.0)
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Or I could send some money to our new member that recently purchased I30 SR Prem to take his car out to a wheel alignment to get the measurements, then I can then replicate it on mine.
Anyone?? :P
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Im in the same boat, the car doesnt feel the same at turning after the wheel alignment, it doesnt have that same grip on the road feel. I thought it was me, yet looking at the wheel alignment report, it was using GD settings.
Is there some where with the right info where I can get this car re-alignment again? At the moment when I turn, the car seem to roll where previously it doesnt.
Do you have a print out of what it was before? ,set back to that ?? (worst case)
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Yeah .. now I'm convince the other alignment stuffed it up .. i'm going to bring the car to Bob Jane T Mart for them to have a look and hopefully can bring the zing back to my SR.
Hopefully! :goodjob:
My friend rang his tyre place and said they went and checked and all the same (all may not include the PD) . Reckoned that the guy that did them has been doing them for 14 years and really knows his stuff. :undecided:
Track (wheel width)
FD Fr 1546 mm Rear 1544 mm
GD Fr 1563 mm Rear 1571 mm
Thanks mate. I haven't done an alignment although I have seen them done. Can the alignment specs still be the same with different track widths?
Essentially, the well treated i30 only has one easy front adjustment - toe in.
So, yes they probably could.
I just aligned my GD using a string line down each side of the car, that Solved a drift to the left, steers straight and to an old expert, its :goodjob2: :goodjob2: :goodjob: :goodjob:
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Now I just think you are stringing me along. :spitty: :rofl:
I'll pull some strings at Tyre solutions here in Devonport to get a second opinion.. :goodjob2:
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Dammit, I forgot
:weneedpics:
@mickd
Mick will back me up.
1. string line set, account for difference between front and rear track dimension.
2. Tradie's tape measure to measure alignment.
3. Chain offending side to tree.
4. Reverse while doing a Lester to make sure speedo reaches 30kph .
5. After impact recheck alignment.
6. Puuurfect. :baps: Enjoy a coldy with Gerard.
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Dammit, I forgot
:weneedpics:
@mickd
Mick will back me up.
1. string line set, account for difference between front and rear track dimension.
2. Tradie's tape measure to measure alignment.
3. Chain offending side to tree.
4. Reverse while doing a Lester to make sure speedo reaches 30kph .
5. After impact recheck alignment.
6. Puuurfect. :baps: Enjoy a coldy with Gerard.
:lol: :rofl: agree with steps 1 to 5 . 6 is to far away but agree with sentiment.
Have seen / used trees to re-align various front and rear components. :evil:
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Dammit, I forgot
:weneedpics:
@mickd
Mick will back me up.
1. string line set, account for difference between front and rear track dimension.
2. Tradie's tape measure to measure alignment.
3. Chain offending side to tree.
4. Reverse while doing a Lester to make sure speedo reaches 30kph .
5. After impact recheck alignment.
6. Puuurfect. :baps: Enjoy a coldy with Gerard.
:lol: :rofl: agree with steps 1 to 5 . 6 is to far away but agree with sentiment.
Have seen / used trees to re-align various front and rear components. :evil:
Me too. Generally in the forest when I should have been safely passing them. :Drive:
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They are different.
The second from last alignment I had done on my GD they used FD specs and it pulled left.
It has since been redone.
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Bugger! I forgot to ask when I had mine Friday! :crazy1:
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They are different.
The second from last alignment I had done on my GD they used FD specs and it pulled left.
It has since been redone.
I can't believe any professional workshop would use another vehicles specs as near enough is good enough. WTF.
Is that what you're telling us, they did not have the GD specs in their system and subbed FD??
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Mine is PD2 and was done with GD specs. #@%#$% Going to sort it out tomorrow, will go to Bob Jane and not that corner shop anymore.
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Mine is PD2 and was done with GD specs. #@%#$% Going to sort it out tomorrow, will go to Bob Jane and not that corner shop anymore.
That's interesting! #@%#$% means the same in Vietnamese as it does in English! :lol: :goodjob:
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Seems to be a bit 'she'll be right mate' out there.
I was also a bit 'Vietnamed' :cool: when I found my new Foxwell scanner did not have FD data for re-centering the steering after doing the usual $5 bush change.
But it did have a GD program and it worked perfectly.
PS; who is this new Doggie bloke? :undecided: :undecided: :undecided:
@Doggie 1 :winker: been a while, happy new year mate.
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Seems to be a bit 'she'll be right mate' out there.
PS; who is this new Doggie bloke? :undecided: :undecided: :undecided:
@Doggie 1 :winker: been a while, happy new year mate.
Thanks NZ, it has been a while. :)
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They are different.
The second from last alignment I had done on my GD they used FD specs and it pulled left.
It has since been redone.
I can't believe any professional workshop would use another vehicles specs as near enough is good enough. WTF.
Is that what you're telling us, they did not have the GD specs in their system and subbed FD??
They had both, saw it was a 2012 model which covers both, didn't know an FD from a GD and picked the wrong one.
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They are different.
The second from last alignment I had done on my GD they used FD specs and it pulled left.
It has since been redone.
I can't believe any professional workshop would use another vehicles specs as near enough is good enough. WTF.
Is that what you're telling us, they did not have the GD specs in their system and subbed FD??
They had both, saw it was a 2012 model which covers both, didn't know an FD from a GD and picked the wrong one.
:rofl: Google?
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They had both, saw it was a 2012 model which covers both, didn't know an FD from a GD and picked the wrong one.
:goodjob2:
This probably sums up all the above complaints.
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That's interesting! #@%#$% means the same in Vietnamese as it does in English!
I cannot bring myself to swear hence @$^$!#%@@% :). Took to Bob Jane this morning and they said - sorry we r booked out, come back another time during the week and we can help you .... !#@$%%^^@ :)
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That's interesting! #@%#$% means the same in Vietnamese as it does in English!
I cannot bring myself to swear hence @$^$!#%@@% :). Took to Bob Jane this morning and they said - sorry we r booked out, come back another time during the week and we can help you .... !#@$%%^^@ :)
I don't know that last swear word? If that is your wife in your avatar I might be able to squeeze a detour into Sydney in my next road trip.. :eek: :whistler:
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If that is your wife in your avatar I might be able to squeeze a detour into Sydney in my next road trip..
hahahaha... after a few kegs of beer, everyone look sexy
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I was playing with the GDS and remembered this topic. Here are the alignment values for FD from the workshop manual. As I remembered. Toe is pretty much all they can do. Everything else needs new parts. Heard same thing from the suspension shop last summer when I got my alignment done.
:link: FD alingment.pdf - Google Drive (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1eurQlVh8grgHvASfetDOjGj55dAPPL9B)