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Title: Air Asia Jet missing
Post by: beerman on December 28, 2014, 07:16:42
I still don't get how in the day and age of GPS you can lose a jet?

I hope they turn up and all is well, but the longer it goes on.....

:link: Air Asia QZ8501: Reportedly lost contact between Indonesia, Singapore | Gold Coast Bulletin (http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/air-asia-jet-loses-contact-with-air-traffic-control/story-fnj90t7b-1227168427005)
Title: Re: Air Asia Jet missing
Post by: Phil №❶ on December 28, 2014, 07:27:05
 :undecided: :Shocked:
Title: Re: Air Asia Jet missing
Post by: Doggie 1 on December 28, 2014, 07:28:56
It's puzzling, isn't it?
Title: Re: Air Asia Jet missing
Post by: beerman on December 28, 2014, 07:32:01
:link: AirAsia flight from Indonesia to Singapore loses contact (http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/airasia-flight-from-indonesia-to-singapore-loses-contact-20141228-12em2h.html)

Title: Re: Air Asia Jet missing
Post by: FatBoy on December 28, 2014, 08:34:02
A sad event.

I have a GPS too, but you don't know where I am.

They will know where their last reported point is, and work from there.
Title: Re: Air Asia Jet missing
Post by: Dazzler on December 28, 2014, 09:23:41
It was pretty stormy when they asked to go higher. I'm assuming it will turn out to be an accident rather than foul play.. I don't hold out much hope.  :disapp:

One of my best mates is flying home from Burma to Tassie tomorrow with his Burmese wife and 3 kids. He usually uses Air Asia..  :undecided:
Title: Re: Air Asia Jet missing
Post by: Shambles on December 28, 2014, 09:36:32
They're talking sight of wreckage (unconfirmed)... :(
Title: Re: Air Asia Jet missing
Post by: Just Rick on December 28, 2014, 09:50:46
F*#k me,we have satellite tracking and control's on trucks,why can't this be employed on planes
Title: Re: Air Asia Jet missing
Post by: Doggie 1 on December 28, 2014, 09:56:35
F*#k me,we have satellite tracking and control's on trucks,why can't this be employed on planes

I'm no expert on this topic and will default to FatBoy & Gonz, but I agree.
I must be missing something.   :undecided:
Title: Re: Air Asia Jet missing
Post by: CraigB on December 28, 2014, 09:57:12
Well I was going to fly AisAsia to Singapore on the 12th of Febuary but I have changed that and booked with Scoot airlines as of today.
Title: Re: Air Asia Jet missing
Post by: FatBoy on December 28, 2014, 09:58:49

F*#k me,we have satellite tracking and control's on trucks,why can't this be employed on planes

It is, however it costs money and weight, neither of which the flying public on "low cost" carriers want to pay for.

Our aircraft have sat tracking, which the client pays for.

Maybe they do have it and didn't get the opportunity to activate the "emergency" button. A plane at 40,000 ft will travel a long way before it hits the water, even without wings.
Title: Re: Air Asia Jet missing
Post by: beerman on December 28, 2014, 10:04:47
F*#k me,we have satellite tracking and control's on trucks,why can't this be employed on planes
at least 2 billion reasons, and the airline industry isn't exactly rolling in Cash.
Title: Re: Air Asia Jet missing
Post by: Phil №❶ on December 28, 2014, 10:06:40
The ADS-B would give the latest location, but that will obviously stop if the juice is cut to the device. If the plane broke up @ 38K feet, bits would be scattered over a huge area. If there's talk of sighting wreckage, in what is poor weather, then we should know very soon. :(
Title: Re: Air Asia Jet missing
Post by: beerman on December 28, 2014, 10:10:07

F*#k me,we have satellite tracking and control's on trucks,why can't this be employed on planes

It is, however it costs money and weight, neither of which the flying public on "low cost" carriers want to pay for.

Our aircraft have sat tracking, which the client pays for.

Maybe they do have it and didn't get the opportunity to activate the "emergency" button. A plane at 40,000 ft will travel a long way before it hits the water, even without wings.

Problem with relying on the pilot to notify of a problem is that they are dealing with the problem. Tunnel vision would ensure that they focus only on trying to correct the problem you can only do so much in fight/flight and your fine motor skills are the first to go (if they don't totally freeze from overload).

Perhaps there needs to be a system that automatically opens the radio where certain conditions are triggered, so that air traffic control can hear there is a problem, attempt to locate the plane and get things rolling should it not be corrected.
Title: Re: Air Asia Jet missing
Post by: beerman on December 28, 2014, 10:11:16
The ADS-B would give the latest location, but that will obviously stop if the juice is cut to the device. If the plane broke up @ 38K feet, bits would be scattered over a huge area. If there's talk of sighting wreckage, in what is poor weather, then we should know very soon. :(

Reports are they don't have enough fuel to still be flying.....
Title: Re: Air Asia Jet missing
Post by: FatBoy on December 28, 2014, 10:15:30
The priorities in ALL aircraft emergencies are:

1. Aviate (fly the aircraft)
2. Navigate (safe height heading and speed)
3. Communicate

Communicate is last for a reason, 100+ years of aviation have shown that telling somebody on the ground that you have a problem (which may not be a problem) is useless as they can't do anything about it anyway.  You would get too many false reports "Oh, another Airbus has sent a message about engine problems."  More like the boy who cried wolf.
Title: Re: Air Asia Jet missing
Post by: Shambles on December 30, 2014, 11:24:04
FORTY BODIES recovered so far.

RIP, if you can.

:link: BBC News - AirAsia QZ8501: Forty bodies found in missing plane search (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30630330)
Title: Re: Air Asia Jet missing
Post by: Doggie 1 on December 30, 2014, 11:35:32
Really bad news, but closure at least.
Title: Re: Air Asia Jet missing
Post by: Phil №❶ on December 30, 2014, 11:55:41
 :eek:
Title: Re: Air Asia Jet missing
Post by: Dazzler on December 30, 2014, 11:56:40
Jeepers, I hadn't heard/seen that :Shocked: :sad:
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