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2016 2L SR engine - gutless and sluggish

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@Nonamesleft - i also live in the area. I own the 3dr 1.6ltr 6 spd manual. i have gone up Mount Ousley, drove the M7, M4 and even M5.

Mount Ousley - as long as i have the car in 5th gear keeping momentum i will make it without putting stress on the gearbox. 4th gear is also fine but revs over 3,000

M7 - I will overtake cars in 6th gear. if i put my foot down slightly the car will increase speed ever so slightly but i am able to overtake. i will downshift to 5th for more acceleration if i want to overtake quickly.

In a nutshell as everyone here has mentioned, get the car checked, or you can meet me on the M4 and we can race for pinks. if i win i get your car. if you win, my whole post here was irrelevant...... actually no we better not race... lol i like my car!! :) :) :lol:

hope it gets fixed soon :)
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Hi Nonamesleft

I see your running BP ultimate try using normal 91 ron fuel as the 98 maybe too much because of my previous car which I always used BP ultimate I was going to do the same with my i30 but my dad who works for Hyundai has said that they have actually had a car come in miss firing and not running right and asked the owner which fuel was being used and they said 98 the dealership told them to just use 91 and they never came back so I have been using BP 91 unleaded and have done 5500 km so far with no issues and depending on the hill i may need to drop back to 5th but can usually stay in 6th but mine is not gutless or anything at all and it pulls from just over 2000rpm so all I could suggest is change your fuel and see what happens hope this helps you out
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I've never had issues myself running 98 either before or after the tune but maybe worth a try to change, you might have even had a bad batch of fuel which is blocking the system :undecided:


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Aside from the additives and such that tend to be in higher RON and premium fuels, is there actually any benefit to a higher RON in these engines? I thought unless it's higher compression you'll get hardly any benefit from it? Despite what some think higher octanes don't necessarily mean higher performance.

I know the ol 2.3 MZR in the mazda 3 likes a higher RON and runs a bit smoother, but can also do 91 fine.
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Hi octane fuel prevents detonation which is dangerous to motor engines. There may be additives that promote cleaner burning but are they worth the expense. The key to 98 fuel is the compression ratio.
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Also 91 ron fuel contains no cleaning additives, only 95 and 98 keep your engines fuel system clean.

High compression engines require at minimum 95 to 98 and if you've had tuning modifications done to the ECU in relation to timing advancements then 98ron is likely required also.


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@Nonamesleft -
In a nutshell as everyone here has mentioned, get the car checked, or you can meet me on the M4 and we can race for pinks. if i win i get your car. if you win, my whole post here was irrelevant...... actually no we better not race... lol i like my car!! :) :) :lol:

hope it gets fixed soon :)

Ok done.... but only if I get to ride my bike  :winker:


I've booked her in but they're booked out until end of Jan, so I have to wait it out. I need the stereo looked at anyway because it randomly freezes sometimes, so 2 birds with one stone and all that.
Whilst on the subject of the stereo, @BigRed do you find yours ridiculously bright? I have it on the lowest brightness setting atm... I usually finish work at 11pm and drive home with the screen off most nights because its distracting and the glow from it reflects on the windows. I mean it's nothing major , but it would be good if the lowest setting went a little lower so it doesn't look like I'm shining a flash light under my chin and telling ghost stories. Especially if its been a bad afternnon at work, the bags under my eyes look bad enough without extra enhancement from the stereo  :snigger:

Thanks for all the suggestions and input everyone, I do appreciate it and I'm taking them all on board. I'll try running some 95 or 91 and see how it goes until then.
My dad swears by his method of running 91 and every 3rd tank putting 95 and not letting it drop below half. He may have a point but I always thought it was good to run it down every now and then too, just not so low you may be sucking any sediment from the bottom of the tank maybe.

Anyways, I took the lil beast out on some back roads and tested the 4700 rpm max torque that was mentioned.
It doesnt sound too good for the engine at those revs but at around 4000 to 4500 in 2nd and 3rd it did boost it a little, didnt sound like the engine liked it much and it was yelling at me to change gears lol but it was cooler in the car than in my house so again, how awesome are the cooled seats  :happydance:

Also, sorry if I come across as a little blunt at times lol thats something I gotta work on, its just frustrating after the few long trips I've taken lately and you know how once you notice something it plays on your mind, well... lets just say its gonna be a long wait to see what the service centre come back with.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2017, 15:43:05 by Nonamesleft »
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... too, just not so low you may be sucking any sediment from the bottom of the tank maybe.

It makes no difference. The fuel pump draws all fuel ( full tank or near empty) from the bottom of the tank. By obtaining fuel from high volume service stations, you will get little to no sediment.
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Agreed.
I've always been fascinated by people who won't let their tank get low in case it picks up sediment.
Sediment is just that. It sinks to the bottom where the fuel is always picked up from.
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Nonamesleft , can understand how you feel having to rev the motor & feeling it is not happy revving hard.
when you look at bore & stroke between the 1.8 motor and the SR's 2.0 motor , both have same 81 mm bore size the 2.0 just has its stroke increased by 10mm over the 1.8 but has more compression 11.5 to 1 i would not run lower octain with that compression i think 95 would be minimal as 91 burns faster, but having said that just using higher octane fuel will not give you more power just be easier on motor. the long stroke motors do not like high rev's. i prefer over square as piston speeds at rev's higher with a long stroke. also on compression ratio & fuel octane motor will make its best power on the verge of detonation so less octane can give you more power in some cases. BUT as you have said you do mostly short trips if you are in traffic a lot the 91 octane burns dirty gets carbon build up i've looked in motors that just ran on 91 lot of carbon in the combustion chamber, but on my motor bike that i only run on 98BP it was clean in chamber all the valves clean too. but hard to solve your problem & i can't see a dealer solving it as they are not hi performance tunners just mostly general repair & servicing. as i said before someone with a good chassis dyno who has had a car the same as yours on there dyno, could give your car a run on the dyno tell you if it is down on power. then go to dealer, but don't mention the dyno! but you will already know for sure see what they say. good luck with it.
also what year & model Ford Focus did you have before & was it diesel or petrol?


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Thanks for the detailed response.

You don't come across as blunt. You have been quite tolerant in the circumstances. 

The ghost reference was a classic! 

Bit cheeky they are making you wait a couple of weeks. When you drop it in, you might like to point out to them you have a legion of followers on the i30 forum who are waiting with baited breath for feedback on the dealer's service.. That should keep them on their toes.

BTW have you got a first name we can use that is shorter than Nonamesleft?
« Last Edit: January 18, 2017, 11:26:40 by Dazzler »
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I was thinking about this too. Probably the dealer has work he can charge for and your issue is of less value.

As Daz has said, mention the  GLOBAL interest your posts have generated. It should induce the dealer (yet to be named) to take the matter more seriously.

 :twisted: A notice placed on the back of your car, apologising to other motorists for its poor performance, could put you at the front of the queue. :twisted:
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In regards to your stereo I have noticed that it sometimes used freeze up but since I got the Android Auto software update done I have had no further problems so it may just need a software update which should be free of charge. As for the lights at night time I think that the air con screen is a little bit bright even at the lowest setting but the main screen is fine for me
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Quote from: nzenigma
A notice placed on the back of your car, apologising to other motorists for its poor performance, could put you at the front of the queue.

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but since I got the Android Auto software update done

Hmmmmm interesting.... Do you have the stereo with built in navigation? Because the dealer told me mine couldn't get the android auto update  (which I was rather pissed about)

As for my name, its Bec and there were really no names left, at least none of the ones I tried  :razz:

Lmao @ the sticker on the back... but I kinda prefer my #selfmade one. The one on the front says limited edition, which in this case may be true, just not the good edition lol

Anyway, heres a few pics of the culprit, excuse the dirt, I'm still mad at her for embarassing me on the freeway so shes been left dirty to think about what shes done (not really I just havent had time to give her a bath)

Also I may have to google what half of lakes post meant, bore stroke and pistons... sounds like a indepth porn review :snigger:





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Now you've done it, you mentioned porn :whistler: the guys will come running now :lol:


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Now you've done it, you mentioned porn :whistler: the guys will come running now :lol:

Porn and car pics.... works everytime!  :whistler: Now I just gotta sort this slug business, buy a mechanics dictionary ti catch up on the lingo then upload a sneaky pic of bumblebette (crotch rocket) and go back to the kitchen to make everyone a sandwich. I'll have covered all my bases then and win the whole forum over  :rofl:
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You've won me :snigger:

It was the red wheel caps that did it, wasn't it?!  :victory:

(You will get used to my stupid humour hehe)
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It's the red caps :whistler: but the sandwich done it for me :lol:

Your humour will fit right in here :goodjob2:


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I make a mean chicken salad too lol
Heres bumblebette (tick).... im off to google what engine compression ratio means (double tick)  :victory:
Oh and @Lakes it was a 2008 ford focus zetec sedan, 5sp petrol. The stupid european one that cost a fortune for parts and went south at 200000km, hence the upgrade. But when it was good... it was really good  :) I miss it sometimes... usually when I'm going up a hill!
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Food - bikes and scenic mountain tops and the mention of porn...if it weren't for the other/better half I'd be proposing  :D


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Yes, I'm with Craig (but not in that way) You seem like a cool chick. :goodjob:
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If you add some go-fast stripes on the i30 it will climb the hills with ease...  :mrgreen:
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If you add some go-fast stripes on the i30 it will climb the hills with ease...  :mrgreen:

Don't you mean, go-fast stripes , a caravan and a Danish tail wind?   :p
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Nonamesleft, lol, i get a bit carried away talking about motors sometimes.
i just meant the 1.8 motor has a piston diam of 81mm & the distance the piston travels up & down the bore on the 1.8 is 87mm, with the 2.0 they could have increased engine size by increasing the piston diam , but they just kept the same diam at 81mm but increased the distance the piston travels up & down the bore to 97mm, so because they did it this way., it mean's the piston's in the 2.0 will have to travel further than the piston's in the 1.8 travel @ same RPM, so say at a given RPM the pistons in the 2.0motor will be traveling at a much higher speed than the pistons in the 1.8. but mean's nothing in real terms as your not racing. Just as the motor does not make maximum Torque till 4,700rpm & you noted it did not sound happy revving at that rev. the piston speed at that rev in the 2.0 would be a lot faster than the piston speed of the 1.8. if you revved to 6,500 a lot would be higher wear & tear.

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