a blow to my confidence............

asathorny · **April 01, 2011, 13:11:16**

No work today, nor for a few days next week either, which is a good job since, I went to the car this morning and it was as dead as a Dodo...

Not a bloomin glimmer out of it. AAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

The RAC said they'd come and start me for £63, I said 'not thanks'. The dealership, after a few calls are comeing to start me later this afternoon (live just aruond the corner. The techi guy says if the battery is goosed he has to order one and it'll be a day or so. I said, will you be popping an spare in to keep me mobile, he said 'no' you'll have to leave it. I have checked my work diary and I am not working for a few days now <thank God>.

The little work I do is self employed so if I had missed work because of this I'd have been frantic.....

Oh ummmm, this as dented my confidence in my shine red machine....

asathorny

**Reply #1: April 01, 2011, 13:49:48**

You can't jump start or just buy a battery charger?

BarryD · **Reply #2: April 01, 2011, 13:58:44**

Jump start it, and go to the nearest battery centre - buy a new one and send the bill to Hyundai

asathorny · **Reply #3: April 01, 2011, 14:18:31**

Thanks for the input guys, my old emergency starter pack went to heaven some long time ago :o :o....

They've been an collected her and I asked the techi guy if I was gonna be charged, he said 'nope, warranty this'.... He then regaled me with a story about this model having had a problem with the stereo draining the battery ??????

I have no idea if that was real or not, but I thought I'd pass it on to you guys because I know that many of you are techi peeps and it may or may not be of some use to you

Anyhow, it's gone to the doctors and I feel as if my legs have been removed

**Reply #4: April 01, 2011, 14:23:20**

I wonder how he knew you just didn't leave the door ajar? Anyway, accepting warranty responsibility is very good. We'll be interested to get the wash up.

eye30 · **Reply #5: April 01, 2011, 14:52:23**

Quote from: asathorny on April 01, 2011, 13:11:16

The RAC said they'd come and start me for £63,

Did they say why there would be a charge?

asathorny · **Reply #6: April 01, 2011, 15:35:30**

Quote from: eye30 on April 01, 2011, 14:52:23

Quote from: asathorny on April 01, 2011, 13:11:16
The RAC said they'd come and start me for £63,

Did they say why there would be a charge?

The RAC said that my cover, Breakdown and Recovery, didn't cover Home Start .... So the charge would be to join their HOME START.... my reasoning was that with a new car, well 14 mnths old car, how many times am I gonna need a home start, so I said no.

It'd be cheaper to buy a booster starter and have it on stand by, if it were needed at all.....

2i30s · **Reply #7: April 01, 2011, 21:43:11**

babis_xo · **Reply #8: April 01, 2011, 22:20:45**

Quote from: Pip on April 01, 2011, 13:49:48

You can't jump start or just buy a battery charger?

Is jump-starting recommended? I've heard something about damaging the catalyst.

Dazzler · **Reply #9: April 01, 2011, 22:24:06**

Quote from: babis_xo on April 01, 2011, 22:20:45

Is jump-starting reccomended? I've heard something about damaging the catalyst.

or the electronics...

2i30s · **Reply #10: April 01, 2011, 22:25:54**

babis_xo · **Reply #11: April 01, 2011, 22:46:00**

AND the electronics

(didn't know that)

Dazzler · **Reply #12: April 02, 2011, 04:44:45**

Quote from: babis_xo on April 01, 2011, 22:46:00

AND the electronics (didn't know that)

I'm guessing there is the risk of a surge.. I haven't googled it but been warned to be careful about using jumper leads on modern cars with lots of electronics by several mechanics over the years...

Edit: Just did a google and apparently there is a risk of frying the engine management module (ECU?) although the risk may be reduced if the leads have inbuilt surge protection.

I ain't putting jumper leads near my Hybrid for anybody .. way to many electronics to damage in her :o

and I won't be driving through any flooded roads either

2i30s · **Reply #13: April 02, 2011, 04:51:30**

snowcherry · **Reply #14: April 02, 2011, 14:22:05**

whoa back backup backup

stereo draining the battery? while the car was on or off? ???

eye30 · **Reply #15: April 02, 2011, 19:48:03**

Quote from: asathorny on April 01, 2011, 15:35:30

Quote from: eye30 on April 01, 2011, 14:52:23
Quote from: asathorny on April 01, 2011, 13:11:16
The RAC said they'd come and start me for £63,

Did they say why there would be a charge?

The RAC said that my cover, Breakdown and Recovery, didn't cover Home Start .... So the charge would be to join their HOME START....

Do you live on a hill?

You could have let it roll quarter of a mile then called them out

When my complimentary cover expired I rang the RAC and asked if they did deals for Hy owners.

They did and I got roadside, recovery and home start at 50% of normal price which at the time was cheaper than roadside and recovery!

asathorny · **Reply #16: April 02, 2011, 19:58:02**

You could have let it roll quarter of a mile then called them out

Nah, she lives in her garage whicb sadly has a slight upslope from the door to the road.... otherwise, I would have done a rolling start. I presume that a rolling start in third is a safe way to start...

do warn me if it's a no no, it was always my first way out of trouble when much much younger and driving round in old smokers

eye30 · **Reply #17: April 02, 2011, 20:14:09**

Quote from: asathorny on April 02, 2011, 19:58:02

otherwise, I would have done a rolling start. I presume that a rolling start in third is a safe way to start...

do warn me if it's a no no, it was always my first way out of trouble when much much younger and driving round in old smokers

Asa - Check the Handbook. For mine, diesel, it says not to push start.

Anyway not having the motor running will make steering nigh impossible.

Dazzler · **Reply #18: April 02, 2011, 20:19:05**

Quote from: snowcherry on April 02, 2011, 14:22:05

whoa back backup backup

stereo draining the battery? while the car was on or off? ???

While the car is off (we've only had a couple of instances of that SC but not in an SR as far as I can recall)

asathorny · **Reply #19: April 02, 2011, 21:52:14**

Quote from: eye30 on April 02, 2011, 20:14:09

Quote from: asathorny on April 02, 2011, 19:58:02
otherwise, I would have done a rolling start. I presume that a rolling start in third is a safe way to start...

do warn me if it's a no no, it was always my first way out of trouble when much much younger and driving round in old smokers

Asa - Check the Handbook. For mine, diesel, it says not to push start.

Anyway not having the motor running will make steering nigh impossible.

Thanks for that duhhhhh.... your quite right oh ummmm

**Reply #20: April 03, 2011, 03:51:24**

I've started mine on a roll a couple of times for no particular reason other than I was pointing down hill.

No trouble at all. Kick it over in third (second might be a bit stiff), change down to second and off you go...

It might not work though if the battery is too flat to power the ECU or does it have a dead failed state that allows the engine to run without a functioning ECU?

snowcherry · **Reply #21: April 03, 2011, 04:32:27**

Quote from: Dazzler on April 02, 2011, 20:19:05

Quote from: snowcherry on April 02, 2011, 14:22:05
whoa back backup backup

stereo draining the battery? while the car was on or off? ???

While the car is off (we've only had a couple of instances of that SC but not in an SR as far as I can recall)

ooooh! not good.
thanks Dazz

asathorny · **Reply #22: April 04, 2011, 15:31:33**

I just phoned the dealership and this is what he said. They had a circular regarding battery's unexpectedly discharging within a certain VIN No range and the solution is to fit a lead, this was followed by some techno waffle about a *dischagre lead to the bodywork??????*

He said that my car is not within the VIN no range but that they're, never the less, going to fit this lead which is on order and will arrive tomorrow after which I will get my car returned to me.

I am not filled with the warm fuzzy feeling of confidence, but hey oh, we'll see what we see !!!!!!

eye30 · **Reply #23: April 04, 2011, 19:06:43**

Quote from: asathorny on April 04, 2011, 15:31:33

They had a circular regarding battery's unexpectedly discharging within a certain VIN No range and the solution is to fit a lead, this was followed by some techno waffle about a *dischagre lead to the bodywork??????*

Sounds like a possible earthing fault

asathorny · **Reply #24: April 04, 2011, 22:12:14**

Quote from: eye30 on April 04, 2011, 19:06:43

Quote from: asathorny on April 04, 2011, 15:31:33
They had a circular regarding battery's unexpectedly discharging within a certain VIN No range and the solution is to fit a lead, this was followed by some techno waffle about a *dischagre lead to the bodywork??????*

Sounds like a possible earthing fault

OK, I can see that, but, how come I've been driving all over the north of England for 14 mths ???? with no problems. :o :o
This is why I am saying I don't have the warm fuzzies about this.... It just seems wierd to me.

I am hoping and praying that it's solved

2i30s · **Reply #25: April 04, 2011, 23:01:15**

:-\

snowcherry · **Reply #26: April 05, 2011, 01:50:58**

sooo guess who's car won't start today

and no i am not joking

2i30s · **Reply #27: April 05, 2011, 02:34:49**

Quote from: snowcherry on April 05, 2011, 01:50:58

sooo guess who's car won't start today

and no i am not joking

flat battery?

snowcherry · **Reply #28: April 05, 2011, 02:44:22**

tis my presumption. nothing works at all, not even the doors.
i have written more in the other battery thread. :-\

2i30s · **Reply #29: April 05, 2011, 02:58:13**

Quote from: snowcherry on April 05, 2011, 02:44:22

tis my presumption. nothing works at all, not even the doors.
i have written more in the other battery thread. :-\

im off for a look.