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Thanks Phil!!  I do disagree with one of your comments.  Religion isn't a personal choice.  You will very rarely see Christian children of Muslim parents, nor Muslim children of Buddhist parents (insert any religion into any of the previous choices).  It even goes down to flavour of religion, for example, you will generally not be baptised a Catholic unless at least one of your parents are.

Religion is indoctrinated into children at a very young age.  They are the same religion as their parents (generally).  And that always happens to be the right one.   :head_butt:

There are many religious people that do wonderful things for fellow humans in the name of their God, however there are also people that will kill in the same name.


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I agree, Fatboy.

I was thinking more along the lines of an adult decision to continue religion, but I do concede that indoctrination starts in childhood and the flavour as well, they are good points.
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Thanks Phil.  Is it my shout or your shout for coffee / beer / scotch when we eventually catch up?


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I just saw this on another forum.  I really hope that it is fake.



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I hope so too!  :Shocked: Surely a google will bring up some more info!

Nope! Nothing refuting it so far!  :undecided:
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If genuine, that deserves a massive backlash. What a moron. :disapp:
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A true demonstration of the dangers of social media and how it can be manipulated. I hope it's a fake, too.

I have nothing to do with this concept, at all. :fum:

If it's not fake, then it is a callous piece of political opportunism. Never did like the Greens.
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I never thought to look at her facebook page!  :head_butt: (I'll have a look now!)
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This is what she actually said on her Facebook page (unless she changed it)

"We are absolutely devastated to learn of the tragic end to the hostage incident in Sydney.

We extend our greatest sympathies and thoughts to all those affected by this incredible tragedy.

To the victims, their families and friends, police and health workers, and to anyone around the nation watching at home impacted by this morning’s tragic events our hearts go out to you.

It is critical that the nation comes together today.

We should comfort one another and open our arms in warm embrace to all peace-loving people regardless of faith, race or nationality.

We commend the courage and professionalism of the police and other emergency services involved."

But I still don't like her..  :lol:
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Apparently the post that I posted on my post was posted first.  Then that post was removed, edited and reposted in the form that Dazz has put up on his post.  Thanks for posting that reposted post, Dazz.

I think that she has been hacked, and that somebody else who doesn't like the Greens put that up.  I didn't think that she would write the "political idealology" or "vote for the Greens".

I still don't like her or the Greens.


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May not be what she was saying, but perhaps what she was thinking.

Though it does have a point about mental health.....The recent shooting on the Gold Coast, old mate had been taken for assessment the morning before he thought it was a good idea to run at police with a weapon.
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Thanks Phil!!  I do disagree with one of your comments.  Religion isn't a personal choice.  You will very rarely see Christian children of Muslim parents, nor Muslim children of Buddhist parents (insert any religion into any of the previous choices).  It even goes down to flavour of religion, for example, you will generally not be baptised a Catholic unless at least one of your parents are.

Religion is indoctrinated into children at a very young age.  They are the same religion as their parents (generally).  And that always happens to be the right one.   :head_butt:

There are many religious people that do wonderful things for fellow humans in the name of their God, however there are also people that will kill in the same name.
All of which tends to highlight what a wonderful set of parents my second daughter-in-law has. He was a ship's captain, was hospitalised in Holland and fell in love with and married one of his nurses.
He was (and is) a Pakistani Muslim. She was (and is) Catholic. Their daughter was born and spent her pre school years on ships with her parents. They then spent years back in Pakistan. She is according to Pakistani law a Muslim (because her father is) and always will be. Living in Karachi - no appearance in public without her father or a member of his family. Eventually she went to high school and university in England and Belgium. Although it must always have been hidden, her father has never had a problem with her being raised as a Catholic.
Now, living in Australia and married to an infidel (an atheist no less  :whistler:) if she ever returned to Pakistan she would be arrested for her "marriage" to a non - Muslim.
I worry about her parents though. They're still living in Islamabad. As in South Africa, for safety you need to be in gated communities.
A wonderful, intelligent woman degree qualified in engineering and a great addition to our family.
My wife worked with a Pakistani Muslim in Sydney for years. His wife was also Pakistani but their daughters were born here. My wife asked him once if his wife wore a head covering. No, he said. This is a free country and she chooses not to.
There are some (probably most) wonderful Muslims in the world.
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Be hard to have a conversation in that house without treading on someone's toes inadvertently, of course.  :eek:
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Be hard to have a conversation in that house without treading on someone's toes inadvertently, of course.  :eek:
Her Dad has a great sense of humour, loves cricket (of course). Her parents spent weeks out here before the wedding two years ago and were guests in our house several times. Fitted in no trouble  at all. TBH, I find the mother more difficult to deal with.
At the wedding her dad placed a full glass of beer in front of him at the head table and then had me take a pic of him with it (not drinking of course) so he could show his mates back home.
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I just saw this on another forum.  I really hope that it is fake.


   :fum:

This idiot or her party will NEVER represent me.
What a moron.
She can water it down all she likes now. We all know where she is coming from.
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In fairness, there is now a post on her Fb page claiming it to be a fake.
I wonder?  :undecided:
I guess we should give her the benefit of the doubt until/unless proven otherwise.
P.S. I still consider her an idiot and she will still never represent me.
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No, this is how pollies work, 2 steps forward, 1 step back. Don't be fooled.  :fum:
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No, this is how pollies work, 2 steps forward, 1 step back. Don't be fooled.  :fum:

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I'm not being.
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That was a global statement, not any specific individual, Doggie1.  :mrgreen:
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That was a global statement, not any specific individual, Doggie1.  :mrgreen:

And taken as such.
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