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MODIFYING OR DETAILING YOUR I30 => ENGINE BAY => Topic started by: Phil №❶ on February 06, 2013, 10:51:38

Title: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 06, 2013, 10:51:38
Lila our 2008 I30 Diesel is at the doctor overnight and due to have the glow plugs tested / replaced. She's been running rough on startup each day. Hopefully they will find something amiss.

However, they are also looking at a recall which came up on their computer. Apparently, check / fix the steering shaft universal joint.

Anyone else aware of this.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Doggie 1 on February 06, 2013, 10:53:45
Not me.  :undecided:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Shambles on February 06, 2013, 11:10:22
However, they are also looking at a recall which came up on their computer. Apparently, check / fix the steering shaft universal joint.

Anyone else aware of this.

Yep.

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/i30OwnersClub/CAP000027.jpg)
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Pip on February 06, 2013, 11:20:46
I'm about to report (for the third time) my "clonk". I hope it is acknowleged this time.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Keith on February 06, 2013, 16:02:58
I'm about to report (for the third time) my "clonk". I hope it is acknowleged this time.

Me too mate, here is my note I sent to Hyundai UK who happen to be based in nearby Walsall lol!

Hello, It has come to my attention that in October a recall of 2008 FD version of i30 (my car included) was issued.
I have had no notification, the TSB number is HFE-12-61-P080-FD, Model i30 FD for Steering column universal joint bolts re-tightening.
Please can you advise urgently if I can take my vehicle (MJ08 EBB) along to my local Hyundai dealer (JT Hughes) for this inspection & work to be done, as I have a rattle / knock from my steering column when turning left over even the slightest rough surfaced road. I am concerned that my steering may fail.

Thanks in anticipation.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: eye30 on February 06, 2013, 17:03:58
Hello, It has come to my attention that in October a recall of 2008 FD version of i30 (my car included) was issued.

Do we know that it is just from 2008 and not earlier model's?

If so when from in 2008?
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Shambles on February 06, 2013, 17:25:23
..the TSB number is HFE-12-61-P080-FD...

Almost correct :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Dazzler on February 06, 2013, 19:50:44

Please can you advise urgently if I can take my vehicle (MJ08 EBB) along to my local Hyundai dealer (JT Hughes) for this inspection & work to be done, as I have a rattle / knock from my steering column when turning left over even the slightest rough surfaced road. I am concerned that my steering may fail.


That is a coincidence as the biggest and most successful Hyundai Dealer in Australia (Based in Perth) is John Hughes .. :eek:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 07, 2013, 00:18:55
Confirmed, Lila is sick, glow plugs to be replaced. Don't have any here in SA  :wacko: may not get car till Monday now.  :fum:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: panda on February 07, 2013, 02:03:28
Boo  :( Hope she's all fixed up soon!
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Doggie 1 on February 07, 2013, 05:47:30
Poor Lila.  :disapp:
Give her our best
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 07, 2013, 08:03:47
Apparently all 4 of them :eek: no wonder it didn't sound too good.

No mention of a loan car while we wait, bit disappointed about that.  :'(
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Shambles on February 07, 2013, 08:04:17
And the UJ tightening?
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 07, 2013, 08:07:03
No mention of that, but I will be picking the car up when it's done, so I'll check then.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Keith on February 07, 2013, 10:26:01
..the TSB number is HFE-12-61-P080-FD...

Almost correct :rolleyes:

OK...HCE-12-61-P080-FD for our Shambles... :-)
But at least Hy UK at Walsall knew what I meant.
They got in touch this morning, a lovely lady called Charlotte, she very pleasantly advised me that I should book my car in at JT Hughes ASAP and get the work done (not a Recall, but a Service request) at NO COST to me. :-) Well done Hyundai, well done Hyundai UK and Thankyou Charlotte!

I told her I am a Member of this Forum and that I'd mention her & Hy UK in a favourable way.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Doggie 1 on February 07, 2013, 10:28:32
Great result.  :goodjob2:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Shambles on February 07, 2013, 10:32:00
Result. Just don't tell them we can get the TSBs before they do :whistler:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Keith on February 07, 2013, 10:33:51

Please can you advise urgently if I can take my vehicle (MJ08 EBB) along to my local Hyundai dealer (JT Hughes) for this inspection & work to be done, as I have a rattle / knock from my steering column when turning left over even the slightest rough surfaced road. I am concerned that my steering may fail.


That is a coincidence as the biggest and most successful Hyundai Dealer in Australia (Based in Perth) is John Hughes .. :eek:

I mentioned that coincidence in this Forum before Dazz me old mucker! I cant find it now but I'm sure you could with your Admin resources lol!  :goodjob2:

I wasnt impressed by JT Hughes at my last Service, I paid £100 extra (over what my reliable Indy wanted) for the benefits of a Dealer service & got nothing from it, not even a car wash! So I hope they handle this a bit better as they are a new Hy Dealership.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Doggie 1 on February 07, 2013, 10:35:18
 :lol: I do remember that.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: zeke45 on February 07, 2013, 11:47:24
I just had the uj bolt tightened on my I30 it took all of 30 seconds, !.It did not stop the knock on front drivers side which has been there from the day I took delivery.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Keith on February 07, 2013, 12:28:36
I just had the uj bolt tightened on my I30 it took all of 30 seconds, !.It did not stop the knock on front drivers side which has been there from the day I took delivery.

Hi Zeke (neighbour lol) I found that under the dash on the drivers side,... up a bit there is a warm air pipe from the heater running a bit close to the dash metalwork. That plastic pipe wobbles about a lot and was clonking about on my car. I put some sponge between it and the dash mount and stopped that. This noise was one of the reasons the previous owner sold the car for, it had just 6,600 miles on it then and his dealer couldnt fix it! I just have the "turning left on rough ground" rattle to fix now, although it doesnt bother me too much if I'm honest.

Oh and my car is booked in now at JT Hughes, Hyundai UK had been in touch with them :-)
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: zeke45 on February 07, 2013, 15:25:31
Hi FFoxy Thanks for that I will have a rummage about behind the dash when the weather warms up a bit.The knock I am getting sounds more like metal to metal though and seems to come from down behind the accelerator pedal the drop links and trackrod ends have been replaced without success.You probably already know this but the steering uj is easy to get to in the foot well and he just torqued it to 20 lbs. Good luck with your rattle.zeke
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Keith on February 07, 2013, 15:30:23
I think I probs tightened it myself in the past Zeke if Im honest. I'm just shoving the door open & hopefully trying to get Hy UK on-side for a fix to a Known Fault on the FD i30 in the steering wheel end of the column.

Something along the lines of "Well I still have the noise from my steering... could it be something else that I wasnt notified about...?"

I'm in Telford by the way fella
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 12, 2013, 07:06:28
LILA UPDATE

Here we are Tuesday, the car's been at the dealers for 3 days and they don't know what's wrong. 4 Glow plugs fitted and no improvement. Suspect the injectors, all removed and sent away for testing, another 3 days.  :scared:

They finally gave me a Ford Fiesta manual to drive. 1200 k's, nice and quiet and a novelty to change gears again, but I wouldn't want to live with it permanently. The steering wheel and instruments are too "in your face" for me with a huge shelf forward to the front windscreen. The reflection on the screen was off putting even with polaroid glasses on. The engine is quite tractible though, pulls away easily in 2nd gear.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Dazzler on February 12, 2013, 08:31:57
Hope they sort it soon Phil (The Fiesta feels very narrow too)  :undecided:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: panda on February 12, 2013, 09:18:45
Love the flashy flashing headline there!

Ugh, sucks when you don't have your own car :( It's like being homeless or something. Hope she's all better soon!
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 12, 2013, 10:15:44
It's all rather complicated actually, the fiesta's a manual so I have to drive it  :whistler: Daughter is only auto licensed

@#Dazz, You're so right. It is very noticeable. MIL requires a walking frame to get around, checked the boot, no go.

No probs in the i30.  :goodjob2:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Asterix on February 12, 2013, 19:05:32
Hi Phil.

Sorry to hear about your troubles.

It's all rather complicated actually, the fiesta's a manual so I have to drive it  :whistler: Daughter is only auto licensed


Does that mean you can get a drivers license for auto cars only... :question:

...and then upgrade to manual ... :question:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 12, 2013, 20:31:02
No, sorry my mistake. License is standard, I meant, she has never driven a manual, sorry for misleading everyone.  :-[
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: eye30 on February 12, 2013, 20:36:43
No, sorry my mistake. License is standard, I meant, she has never driven a manual, sorry for misleading everyone.  :-[

So daughter can't drive manuals unless she sits test for manual car?
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 12, 2013, 20:38:41
Yes, she can drive a manual if someone teaches her, no test necessary.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: eye30 on February 12, 2013, 20:44:06
Yes, she can drive a manual if someone teaches her, no test necessary.

In UK:

Manual licence = authority to drive manuals and auto
Auto licence = authority to drive auto only

If you hold auto licence you have to take and pass a test in manual car before you can drive a manual car.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 12, 2013, 20:52:13
Not surprising, given your traffic density and weather etc. It was always the plan to get the license 1st then learn manual, but no one has a manual to learn on, so it hasn't happened yet.

Learning how to drive a manual doesn't take long if you know how to drive the rest of the vehicle. I teach by explaining the mechanics of spinning flywheels and stationary gears so the learner knows why they are gently releasing the clutch. Should be interesting times when it happens.  :D
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: aymeric on February 12, 2013, 23:18:15
hi Phil aka 84
might be a long shot but did you check the main glow plug fuse in the engine compartment.its the small fuse box on the left of the engine as you are looking in.mine blew 2 months ago from switching the ignition on/off all the time to open/close the windows.
regards
aymeric
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: rustynutz on February 12, 2013, 23:27:48
Does that mean you can get a drivers license for auto cars only... :question:

...and then upgrade to manual ... :question:

That actually is the case here.
Many opt for getting their licence in an auto which only allows them to drive an auto while on their provisional licence.
Once on a full licence you are then able to drive both auto & manual...

Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 12, 2013, 23:46:00
Daughter is on full license

@Aymeric

The car is at the dealer for repairs, so that's their problem now, thanks for the suggestion though.  :goodjob2:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Doggie 1 on February 13, 2013, 05:23:56
If you get a manual licence it covers both manual & auto cars.
If you get an auto licence it covers you for auto only and it would need to be upgraded to include manual.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: rustynutz on February 13, 2013, 05:36:04
I assume you're just referring to WA, Dave?  :undecided:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Doggie 1 on February 13, 2013, 05:51:05
Correct.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: eye30 on February 13, 2013, 15:28:51
If you get an auto licence it covers you for auto only and it would need to be upgraded to include manual.

Does upgrade = test in manual?

or do you get it by other factors i.e. age, time with auto licence etc?
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Doggie 1 on February 14, 2013, 07:46:43
If you get an auto licence it covers you for auto only and it would need to be upgraded to include manual.

Does upgrade = test in manual?

or do you get it by other factors i.e. age, time with auto licence etc?

A whole new application for an additional class and a test in a manual.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: rustynutz on February 14, 2013, 09:22:53
Thankfully we don't have to go through that rigmarole in Victoria.... :goodjob:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Doggie 1 on February 14, 2013, 09:24:51
Thankfully we don't have to go through that rigmarole in Victoria.... :goodjob:

So are you saying that someone can do their test in an automatic and be qualified to drive a manual as well?  :undecided: :Shocked:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: eye30 on February 14, 2013, 10:12:33
Thankfully we don't have to go through that rigmarole in Victoria.... :goodjob:

So what is the criteria for obtaning a manual licence?
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Doggie 1 on February 14, 2013, 10:17:08
Thankfully we don't have to go through that rigmarole in Victoria.... :goodjob:

So what is the criteria for obtaning a manual licence?

In W.A. or Victoria?
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: eye30 on February 14, 2013, 10:17:43
Thankfully we don't have to go through that rigmarole in Victoria.... :goodjob:

So what is the criteria for obtaning a manual licence?

In W.A. or Victoria?

WA = test so Victoria.

Still can't get my head aroumd why each state is different. and why they can't have the same for all....
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: The Gonz on February 14, 2013, 10:19:46
Being Victorian born and bred, I learned many years after I got my well-earned manual licence that you could pass driving an auto and that you could then use it for a manual. I guess the assumption is that learning to handle gears is easy once you can handle the traffic.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Doggie 1 on February 14, 2013, 10:21:48
I like our system better.
Handling conditions is one thing but knowing how to drive a manual is another.
I do agree though that it would be nice to have uniformity between states & territories (as long as ours won.  :lol:)
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: The Gonz on February 14, 2013, 10:23:18
(as long as ours won.  :lol:)
Therein lies the seed of our fathomless discontent.  :rolleyes: :rofl:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: rustynutz on February 14, 2013, 11:19:15
Thankfully we don't have to go through that rigmarole in Victoria.... :goodjob:

So are you saying that someone can do their test in an automatic and be qualified to drive a manual as well?  :undecided: :Shocked:

Only when  they are off their provisional licence.....Once they have their full licence they are free to drive a manual.

:link: (http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/Licences/GetYourPs/PreparingForYourLicenceTest/TheDriveTest/About+the+drive+test.htm)

See section "Automatic condition & removing the condition"
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Doggie 1 on February 14, 2013, 11:24:28
 :Shocked:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Keith on February 14, 2013, 12:57:21
Thread / Topic hijack successful!  :rofl:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 14, 2013, 21:02:17
Payback probably.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: panda on February 15, 2013, 04:29:13
Thankfully we don't have to go through that rigmarole in Victoria.... :goodjob:

So what is the criteria for obtaning a manual licence?

Aging  :evil:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Keith on February 15, 2013, 16:43:25
Just got my car back, I'll let you all know if the problem I had is still there or not once I've passed by a place it always showed the problem up.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Dazzler on February 15, 2013, 19:38:51
Just got my car back, I'll let you all know if the problem I had is still there or not once I've passed by a place it always showed the problem up.

Fingers crossed  :goodjob:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: ouri30 on February 15, 2013, 20:31:45
Just got my car back, I'll let you all know if the problem I had is still there or not once I've passed by a place it always showed the problem up.

Now, what was that problem?  No, I don't have dementia,  this thread is so way :offtopic: , I have to start at the beginning again to find out.  :hahaha:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Keith on February 16, 2013, 00:22:33
Just got my car back, I'll let you all know if the problem I had is still there or not once I've passed by a place it always showed the problem up.

Now, what was that problem?  No, I don't have dementia,  this thread is so way :offtopic: , I have to start at the beginning again to find out.  :hahaha:

No... I think it's dementia alright.... The Thread isn't off Topic, I'm talking about the steering joint defect my car has / had like mentioned in the second paragraph of the original Post lol!
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Pip on February 16, 2013, 01:07:34
Whether they fixed it or not what did they actually do to it?
Ok, just got down to your other thread on this... I see they wouldn't say. :confused:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Keith on February 16, 2013, 23:16:55
So...I still have a bit of a rattle, not so much but still there, so I will mail Hy UK on Monday.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 19, 2013, 05:29:45
Latest LILA Update.

This shows how easily people's satisfaction with their cars can easily dramatically change. Let me explain.

Lila has been ill for some time, rough starting problem, new glow plugs fitted, no change. Injectors removed & sent away for testing, 3 days  :exclaim:. Story goes, all 4 faulty and "leaking". Waiting for Hy approval for warranty repair, apparently $900.00 each, so we're told  :eek:.

Was asked Hy might want me to authenticate the filters I supplied at the last service as it was noted they didn't come from their stock. They were bought through a supplier, referred by a forum member. Fortunately for me, the filters supplied were genuine Hy parts and I had the feeling there might be an argument ensuing over this.

Contacted today and told all ok to proceed, so no probs with the filters. Car should be ready on Friday.

Now, is has been said many times here, that using other branded filters is ok, and it may well be, but let me say that I'm greatly relieved that the opportunity to "pass the buck" due to non Hy brand filters would have meant that we would have to involve another company and get into a bun fight with them & Hy and not have the car repaired while it gets sorted out, which could take ages. My advice to anyone supplying parts is to stay with Hy or you could risk this scenario happening to you.

BTW, the warranty runs out on this car March 1, this year. Now you can see how upset I would have been with the Hy brand if this had happened later in the year. As it is, I'm very happy with how it has all been handled.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: panda on February 19, 2013, 06:18:48
Glad you've got her back and all is well  :goodjob:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 19, 2013, 06:23:55
Not till this Friday, Panda.  :)
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: panda on February 19, 2013, 06:27:05
Crud, I missed that bit  :-[ Well....errrm....this is awkward  :razz:

Glad you'll have her back Friday  (wonder if I can get away with blaming a typo or something :whistler:)
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: rustynutz on February 19, 2013, 06:42:12
You can say it's my fault if it will make you feel better, Panda... :D

I'm used to being in the poo....
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Doggie 1 on February 19, 2013, 06:50:16
Only the depth varies, eh, Rusty?  :lol:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: rustynutz on February 19, 2013, 06:51:07
Ah, you know me so well.... :lol:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: panda on February 19, 2013, 07:04:50
Woo! Deal. All Rustynutz's fault  :goodjob2:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 19, 2013, 07:27:45
I'll accept that, Me (1), Rusty (1)  :lol:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: rustynutz on February 19, 2013, 07:47:04
:link: (http://www.scrolllock.nl/1.html)
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Dazzler on February 19, 2013, 07:54:05
Gee Phil that was lucky  :Shocked: :sweating:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 19, 2013, 08:51:25
:link: (http://www.scrolllock.nl/1.html)

 :rofl: No David Murray's M8.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: panda on February 19, 2013, 09:03:48
:link: (http://www.scrolllock.nl/1.html)

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Keith on February 19, 2013, 11:50:40
I think that stinks personally and definitely black marks Hyundai for me.

In Europe the law stops car manufacturers holding customers to ransom like that, as long as parts fitted are equal to, or of superior quality.

I completely get the bit about "getting into a bunfight" ... but it does look like a get out of Warranty clause and anyone can see that...

I dont like that at all from Hyundai, in fact I'm really pissed off about it!

 :argh:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 19, 2013, 11:55:18
Steady Ffoxy, they did come through in the end and I haven't been asked any more details about the filters. We'll never know whether it was going to be an issue or not.  :undecided:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Keith on February 19, 2013, 12:09:11
Steady Ffoxy, they did come through in the end and I haven't been asked any more details about the filters. We'll never know whether it was going to be an issue or not.  :undecided:

Suzuki never questioned my daughter about the parts I used on her Swift though Phil, and niether did Fiat when I had my GP. I know the Warranties are shorter but Hyundai claim they back up their Warranty with quality. Fiat dont make such wild claims publicly, but Suzuki have gained a very good reputation for reliable dependability without alienating Customers.

It's still blackmail however you look at it and whatever the outcome.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: eye30 on February 19, 2013, 15:28:22
link??????
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Keith on February 19, 2013, 15:43:07
link??????

For?
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: eye30 on February 19, 2013, 17:57:50
link??????

For?

It is OK now.

I was on TT and the link didn't open correctly and was just rubbish...
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: rustynutz on February 20, 2013, 00:07:37
I was on TT and the link didn't open correctly and was just rubbish...

I resent that... :P
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Dazzler on February 20, 2013, 00:08:54
link??????

For?

It is OK now.

I was on TT and the link didn't open correctly and was just rubbish...

Did you press the red button?  :undecided:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Lakes on February 21, 2013, 21:08:37
Hi Phil.

Sorry to hear about your troubles.

It's all rather complicated actually, the fiesta's a manual so I have to drive it  :whistler: Daughter is only auto licensed




Does that mean you can get a drivers license for auto cars only... :question:



...and then upgrade to manual ... :question:




Hi just saw this post, in my state NSW you have to drive a manual tans car to get a manual licence,if you just pass in an auto your licence has auto trans only on it.

Sorry to read about your troubles Phil . Did you ever use diesel fuel additives? & what brand of diesel did you mostly use? Also lastly did you change your fuel filter? & at how many k? If I remember I can remember you thinking about fitting a second fuel filter did you ever do that? Just hope this is fully covered by warranty as injectors are very expensive like $1,000 each or close to that.


Sorry Phil, I should have read the whole post, before posting. But still would be interesting to know if you ever used diesel additive & if so what? Also what brand fuel? & how many k on the car now?
You should buy a lottery ticket!
I don't think we should judge Hyundai on this issue as it's more the servicing dealer that wanted to check what filter not hy but that's normal for dealers as they make a few $ out of inflated service part $ .
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 21, 2013, 23:54:48
@Lakes

You have a good memory, I did investigate putting a glass visual filter on but as the cars are both under warranty, decided against that.

I have never used fuel additives at all, but as we bought both cars 2nd hand, I can't vouch for previous owners. Not sure what brand of fuel as the daughter fills up when required and that could be anywhere. There have not been any suggestions by the dealer that the fuel is an issue at all, so I assume they have tested for water etc. and the car has come up clear.

The car had 55k when purchased and is now due for 75k almost immediately.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 22, 2013, 10:51:59
Lila is home and well. The test will be a cold start tomorrow, although it is forecast to be 37 Deg c.

Total cost $0.00

Thanks to the chaps at Maughan Thiem Hyundai  :goodjob2: :goodjob:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Doggie 1 on February 22, 2013, 13:42:33
Fingers, arms, toes & eyes crossed.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Lakes on February 23, 2013, 21:54:14
Thank's for that info Phil, always good to know.
I always use an additive just to stop algae growth in tank, specially if u don't do high k's. sometimes you can pick it up from servo's storage tanks.
Good luck with it.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 24, 2013, 00:19:00
What additive are you using, I have a product, but have not purchased any because when discussed here, most people have never had a problem, so I thought I was over reacting.

Here is a link to a powerpoint presentation for your info. Other diesel owners can make their own choice too.

https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=1153BD2D1DD28BCA!234&authkey=!AD0pOyNz9-0W41g

I have made this statement before and I still believe that through normal usage, tanks will inevitably gain some water as a result of condensation overnight from moisture in the air as the tank empties, so this stuff should be essential.

@rick,

As a truck driver, how do you cope with moisture condensating in truck tanks, or is it always too hot where you are.  :exclaim:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Doggie 1 on February 24, 2013, 00:44:53
That's an interesting power point presentation.
Do you know anyone who's used it over a long period?
And do you know how much it is?
Would you have to add some every time you refuel?
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 24, 2013, 01:13:51
No,
2011 prices were 1lt $50, 5lt $218, 20lt $768, 200lt $6800...... as if. :Shocked:
Yes, but only a small amount

Their address is 23 Enterprise Crs, Singleton, NSW, I got a bit concerned when I saw their facilites. Just checked again, no change.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Doggie 1 on February 24, 2013, 01:16:16
Yes, I see what you mean about the premises.   :undecided:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Lakes on February 24, 2013, 20:08:17
I think that stinks personally and definitely black marks Hyundai for me.

In Europe the law stops car manufacturers holding customers to ransom like that, as long as parts fitted are equal to, or of superior quality.

I completely get the bit about "getting into a bunfight" ... but it does look like a get out of Warranty clause and anyone can see that...

I dont like that at all from Hyundai, in fact I'm really pissed off about it!

 :argh:

Foxy, it's not just Hyundai, it's everyone, as it's well known you can rip Aussies off, they mark up the prices on everything out here compared to other country's.
I don't think it's Hyundai that told Phil he had to use genuine Hy filters, i think it's the dealer they just try to scare you. but in the end they only warrant parts that fail not parts that wear out. if your tyre's wear out you pay, but if the cases fail they cover that & so on. just lucky they covered this as a very expencive part.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Surferdude on February 24, 2013, 20:19:33
Hi Phil.

Sorry to hear about your troubles.

It's all rather complicated actually, the fiesta's a manual so I have to drive it  :whistler: Daughter is only auto licensed




Does that mean you can get a drivers license for auto cars only... :question:



...and then upgrade to manual ... :question:




Hi just saw this post, in my state NSW you have to drive a manual tans car to get a manual licence,if you just pass in an auto your licence has auto trans only on it.

Sorry to read about your troubles Phil . Did you ever use diesel fuel additives? & what brand of diesel did you mostly use? Also lastly did you change your fuel filter? & at how many k? If I remember I can remember you thinking about fitting a second fuel filter did you ever do that? Just hope this is fully covered by warranty as injectors are very expensive like $1,000 each or close to that.


Sorry Phil, I should have read the whole post, before posting. But still would be interesting to know if you ever used diesel additive & if so what? Also what brand fuel? & how many k on the car now?
You should buy a lottery ticket!
I don't think we should judge Hyundai on this issue as it's more the servicing dealer that wanted to check what filter not hy but that's normal for dealers as they make a few $ out of inflated service part $ .
Hey John, has it changed in NSW re the manual/auto licence?
Our #2 son got his licence in 1996 in Sydney and our daughter a year later, also in Sydney. At that time if you went for the test in an auto, you were restricted to an auto - only for the first 12 months, then your licence became "open" with no restriction and you could drive a manual without any further test. It was the same for both of them and renewals showed no restriction. When each of them transferred back to Qld years later. both licences are unrestricted.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Lakes on February 24, 2013, 20:40:36
What additive are you using, I have a product, but have not purchased any because when discussed here, most people have never had a problem, so I thought I was over reacting.

Here is a link to a powerpoint presentation for your info. Other diesel owners can make their own choice too.

https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=1153BD2D1DD28BCA!234&authkey=!AD0pOyNz9-0W41g

I have made this statement before and I still believe that through normal usage, tanks will inevitably gain some water as a result of condensation overnight from moisture in the air as the tank empties, so this stuff should be essential.

@rick,

As a truck driver, how do you cope with moisture condensating in truck tanks, or is it always too hot where you are.  :exclaim:

Phil, i used i think it was called? made by Chem Tech an Australian company, was mostly to stop Algea i've seen that & problems it can cause & this is cheap insurance think it could also lubricate fuel pump & injectors i used that in my first i30 CRDi i got a large bottle lasted for ages, it had a bottle with chambers, you squeeze it and some goes into a measuring chamber, then you just put the measurement recomended for the full tank, you put it in when your filling up, put the amount recomended then full up tank. there is no magic, no economy increase, no power increase, but no decrease, its more like long term insurance. but i doubt if i realy needed to use it as bought the car  anound June 2008 with build date early may, sold it late 2011, 97,000 trouble free.
i was trying to find that product but the auto parts was out of it so got small bottle of nulon diesel additive as it states it stops Algea, only reason i'm useing it is i don't drive car as much & thats when you could need it as diesel stays in tank longer. also possible to pick it up from storage tanks from a very low turn over outlet.i try ti use same diesel from same outlet & keep recepts for a record. then if there was a problem i just produce the fuel dockes let Hy sort it out. as i would think as an owner i've done all i can, if it fails its not my falt.

Hey Trev sorry thought it was Phil posting, looked like that , when i looked down to read post after being warned new post.
Hi Phil just saw your post as i was about to post, just what i was told about licence,
years ago when i did mine i was taught on Manual then on an Auto then a year latter on a tuck ( long time back ) then a Motorcycle. got all my licences first go for each one. truck was hardest as was one of the old Trucks lot harder to drive than the new one's they have today. now i'm Retired  :D Yipee
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: rustynutz on February 25, 2013, 00:52:32
Hey John, has it changed in NSW re the manual/auto licence?
Our #2 son got his licence in 1996 in Sydney and our daughter a year later, also in Sydney. At that time if you went for the test in an auto, you were restricted to an auto - only for the first 12 months, then your licence became "open" with no restriction and you could drive a manual without any further test. It was the same for both of them and renewals showed no restriction. When each of them transferred back to Qld years later. both licences are unrestricted.

Did some digging and it seems your auto licence is "updated" enabling you to drive a manual once you move on to your P2 licence (green P's).  :undecided:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Surferdude on February 25, 2013, 01:29:56
Hey John, has it changed in NSW re the manual/auto licence?
Our #2 son got his licence in 1996 in Sydney and our daughter a year later, also in Sydney. At that time if you went for the test in an auto, you were restricted to an auto - only for the first 12 months, then your licence became "open" with no restriction and you could drive a manual without any further test. It was the same for both of them and renewals showed no restriction. When each of them transferred back to Qld years later. both licences are unrestricted.

Did some digging and it seems your auto licence is "updated" enabling you to drive a manual once you move on to your P2 licence (green P's).  :undecided:

That would be right. The period I'm talking about was before they went to the two stage (3 year???) "P" system in NSW.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 25, 2013, 02:45:23
Started Lila today, cool weather, NBG, back to the dealer   :blubber:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: rustynutz on February 25, 2013, 03:26:32
Buggar, bitch, bum.... :confused:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 25, 2013, 03:28:48
Buggar, bitch, bum.... :confused:

and others.  :fum:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: panda on February 25, 2013, 07:12:59
Aww crud, that sucks  :blubber:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Lakes on February 25, 2013, 20:48:06
Started Lila today, cool weather, NBG, back to the dealer   :blubber:
Sorry Phil, hope they fix it.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 26, 2013, 11:15:14
Lila was looked at today and thankfully, they found a leaking return line and 1 loose glow plug. Fixed easily and after cooling it down for 4 hours, it started fine, so I brought her home. Daughter is smiling again.  :happydance: :Drive:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: rustynutz on February 26, 2013, 11:27:01
Good to hear, Phil.... :goodjob:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Doggie 1 on February 26, 2013, 13:26:01
 :whsaid: 
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 26, 2013, 20:43:08
Thanks, fellas  :goodjob2:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Lakes on February 27, 2013, 09:33:39
Good Stuff Phil, it's no fun having a sick car!
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Dazzler on February 27, 2013, 09:36:40
 :wts: :cool!:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 27, 2013, 10:11:55
Latest report was that it started fine this morning. :happydance:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: panda on March 02, 2013, 08:52:17
WOO! Glad all is finally well  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on March 02, 2013, 08:54:25
Yes, started it myself yesterday and all ok.  :happydance:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Lakes on March 02, 2013, 20:05:43
Lila was looked at today and thankfully, they found a leaking return line and 1 loose glow plug. Fixed easily and after cooling it down for 4 hours, it started fine, so I brought her home. Daughter is smiling again.  :happydance: :Drive:
Phil that's great new's about the outcome but the age old adage. Do it ONCE do it RIGHT. Just show's how dealer's wrench's rush thing's & don't take as much care as they should. Those two problem's would not get past if they had a top team. As they would double check each job as it's done an check the glow plug's after they had fitted, then test drive come back double check  then after car standing to cool do a final check. But if it's a rush job do it quick, drive it to test if it don't stop give it to customer. Sad but true.
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Just Rick on March 03, 2013, 12:35:27

That is a coincidence as the biggest and most successful Hyundai Dealer in Australia (Based in Perth) is John Hughes .. :eek:

Only reason for that Dazz he is the super sleez of car salesmen,the bloke does not have an honest bone in his body,I still remember the dealings we used to have with him years ago when we had our bunky yard.

To this day he still misrepresents himself and blatantly falsly advertises
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Dazzler on March 03, 2013, 19:46:02
 :disapp:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Just Rick on March 04, 2013, 02:45:04
Phil that's great new's about the outcome but the age old adage. Do it ONCE do it RIGHT. Just show's how dealer's wrench's rush thing's & don't take as much care as they should.

Lakes couldn't agree more,just got to look at Cyril and his wiring looms debarkle, these PPL are supposed to be trained proffessionals,they should not need to have someone looking over their shoulder all the time,I put it down to the lack of a good work ethic and pride in their own work.

I could go off on a tangent rant here,But I won't  :whistler:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Doggie 1 on March 04, 2013, 05:32:04

That is a coincidence as the biggest and most successful Hyundai Dealer in Australia (Based in Perth) is John Hughes .. :eek:

Only reason for that Dazz he is the super sleez of car salesmen,the bloke does not have an honest bone in his body,I still remember the dealings we used to have with him years ago when we had our bunky yard.

To this day he still misrepresents himself and blatantly falsly advertises

 :Shocked:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Paolo5 on April 20, 2013, 11:04:41
Yes, started it myself yesterday and all ok.  :happydance:

Hi Phil,
Glad that your problem had a solution.  :goodjob2:  I have read the whole thread but must have missed the actual culprit/s. Was it the filter, injectors, glowplugs or loose fuel line?

Cheers,
Paolo
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on April 20, 2013, 11:48:59
Hard to tell, because you have to sort through the excuses, however, the injectors were definitely faulty. All were replaced, next morning at home, no improvement, so returned that day and in about 3 hours all fixed, so I suspect something wasn't replaced correctly, some sort of return fuel line wasn't allowing the correct pressure to be achieved. That's what I was told.  :Dunno:
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Paolo5 on April 20, 2013, 22:00:52
Being such an expensive item (you said $1000 each), you would have to wonder what the owner of an i30 diesel (me included) can do to ensure that they don't wear prematurely, given appropriate changing of the fuel filter.

Does anyone have any clues on this one?

Wondering if anyone has successfully fitted a water separator/filter to their i30 diesel?
Title: Re: Recall
Post by: Phil №❶ on April 20, 2013, 23:03:18
Well, we didn't buy the car from new, so all of the driving prior to our ownership is unknown. The car had been properly serviced at Hy though. As well, this fault is bay no means common, I don't think you'll find another post here about having all the injectors changed, so I'd say your pretty safe.

With regard to water separation, one of the first thing I sought on ebay was one of these devices. However, I didn't  pursue the matter, because,

- It would invalidate the warranty.
- It would require new piping, connections and a suitable mount to be fitted.
- They still need periodic replacement of an internal filter.
- I was nervous about a glass product against the firewall in the event of collision.

So, I have just recently purchased an additive which eliminates water and the associated black bug that can develop in Diesel fuel. For a minimal cost I expect to gain protection without the necessary hardware changes.

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