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MODIFYING OR DETAILING YOUR I30 => SUSPENSION & STEERING => Topic started by: alinsslx on April 09, 2011, 06:39:17

Title: Strut bar
Post by: alinsslx on April 09, 2011, 06:39:17
Strut bars....there's been some talk about strut bars being fitted to an I30 mainly not very positive.
I found as a general experience that the majority of australians kind of either hate asian cars or are just narrow minded when it comes to imports.

I've been told that fitting a strut bar will not improve anything to an I30, I30s are to be best untouched.
Well, after much reading and google searching and Ebay hunting I purchased this strut bar at a very cheap price.
it arrived very fast trhu EMS.

First impressions:
-well wrapped and packed
-very light but strong
-a bit dissapointed with a few rather large holes where the bolts connect the bar with the "c" clamps.

Installation:
-took less than 5 minutes, that's how excited I was
-fitted perfectly inspite of the diagnostics plug being in the way, they provided for that.

Performance:
-WOOOOOOOWWWWW
-I loved this thing from the first few meters while reversing out of my driveway
-Amazing performance through dips, arond roundabouts, bends, corners, potholes and steering.
-NO MORE TWISTING, FLEXING AND SHAKING, NO MORE EXCESIVE VIBRATIONS.
-I took a couple of turns quicker ( my front tyres are cheap ant they squeal if a bit too fast), AMAZINGLY the car felt firm, no tilting and also very responsive.

I am very much considering in getting a sway bar as wel for the rear, once I swap my petrol for a CRDI.
If that next little beast gets my K&N filter, the strut and sway bar, get it chipped to 120HP then I'll have a little performer, not a WRX but still ok till I build my Supra.

Pictures below, feel free to ask questions.

http://s1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa413/alinsslx/I30%20Strut%20bar/ (http://s1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa413/alinsslx/I30%20Strut%20bar/)
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: 2i30s on April 09, 2011, 06:55:22
have you got a link to where you bought the strut bar alin?  it looks like a tight fit.
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: rustynutz on April 09, 2011, 07:10:58
I see what you mean by the holes...they are so big, I could almost put my old fella through them!   :P :scared:
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: alinsslx on April 09, 2011, 07:39:05
A bit dodgy if you ask me, but I managed to tighten them pretty well without damaging the empty core bar and it still works great.
However there's another on Ebay that sells this strut bar that has no adjustable anything so i believe that will be the IT, no millimeter to move.
I'll see if this gets loose within a week from the many potholes and dips we have in Adelaide.
I use this car 10hrs per day 6 days a week for business.
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: rustynutz on April 09, 2011, 10:50:54
Perhaps you can find a washer to fit inside the hole..... :-\
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: alinsslx on April 09, 2011, 22:32:57
I reckon this strut bar is the best I ever came across:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HYUNDAI-30-ULTRA-RACING-2-POINTS-FRONT-STRUT-BAR-/180631481948?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a0e79ae5c (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HYUNDAI-30-ULTRA-RACING-2-POINTS-FRONT-STRUT-BAR-/180631481948?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a0e79ae5c)

No chance of slipping or doubting with this one mate.
However the one that I got is ok for now :)
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: Ugly Mongrel on April 10, 2011, 10:26:46
Does anyone know if these type of after market fitting will effect warranty?
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: 2i30s on April 10, 2011, 11:09:08
I'm not 100% sure um.  :neutral:  but I'm sure that your mechanic at your dealership may think your using your car as a racecar. IMO.  :scared: id remove it  prior to a service,just to be on the safe side.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: Ugly Mongrel on April 10, 2011, 12:45:34
I'm not 100% sure um.  :neutral:  but I'm sure that your mechanic at your dealership may think your using your car as a racecar. IMO.  :scared: id remove it  prior to a service,just to be on the safe side.  :mrgreen:

Thanks 2eyes. I don't think I'll go to the trouble of fitting one. I don't drive that fast :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: 2i30s on April 10, 2011, 13:05:22
I'm not 100% sure um.  :neutral:  but I'm sure that your mechanic at your dealership may think your using your car as a racecar. IMO.  :scared: id remove it  prior to a service,just to be on the safe side.  :mrgreen:

Thanks 2eyes. I don't think I'll go to the trouble of fitting one. I don't drive that fast :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
:goodjob:
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: agentr31 on April 11, 2011, 11:49:03
strut brace FTW!!!!
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: alinsslx on April 12, 2011, 04:56:10
I don't service my I30 at the dealer as they charge an arm and a leg and also don't know their job as well as the K-mart mob. For my 45 000ks service they weren't gonna replace my coolant as prescribed in the book?!?!
K-mart don't care what you're under the hood as it is not them covering your warranty. K-mart is authorized to service your car under warranty.
Strut bars often come as a standard equipment and they can help prolong the life of your tires.
However if you're planning your car in for a service  at Hyundai's better take that thing off to avoid any raised eyebrows.
They never mentioned anything about my K&N air filter (got a sticker on it too).
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: 2i30s on April 12, 2011, 05:00:58
I'm sure a strut brace would be looked at a little differently to an air filter. IMO.  :winker:
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: rustynutz on April 12, 2011, 07:36:21
Personally I can't see why Hyundai would have an issue with a strut brace.  Unless of course they've designed flex into the strut towers for a reason...lol.

Then again I could be wrong.... :P
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: agentr31 on April 12, 2011, 10:35:00
bah...

strut brace is no different to bigger wheels and tyres IMHO...

its a look thing unless you actually race the car!!!
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: alinsslx on April 12, 2011, 11:43:53
In my own experience the 2007 Astra I used to own was handling a lot better around bends than the I30, and i mean at a bit faster than regular speed but not racing.
However I found that once that strut bar has gone under my hood, things have smoothed out a bit, no more shaking and twisting as much as before, Adelaide is full of dips to evacuate the water that we never seam to get.
As for the looks, I don't think I'd ever worry about that as nobody would even get a chance to have a look at it really with my regular job.
However, I'm saving at the moment for my twin turbo 6 speed Supra......that will need a strut bar :)
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: agentr31 on April 12, 2011, 12:12:49
that will need coil overs strut bars at both ends, and sway bars minimum!!!!
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: alinsslx on April 12, 2011, 23:57:18
True.
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: rustynutz on April 19, 2011, 11:36:32
Personally I can't see why Hyundai would have an issue with a strut brace.  Unless of course they've designed flex into the strut towers for a reason...lol.

Then again I could be wrong.... :P

I got around to emailing Hyundai re fitting a strut brace, and this is their reply.....

Good morning Mr xxxxxx,

Any non genuine accessory or part that is installed into a Hyundai vehicle can be deemed, if proven that part causes collateral damage for the warranty to be void, either entirely or partially.

A strut brace will give the vehicle more stiffness and better cornering stabilising by the strut.

The choice will be with you, whether you choose to install the part or not.

If in doubt please read your service passport booklet where it states the scope of the new car warranty

 
Kind regards,

Marcin Kresan 
Customer Care Officer-Senior 
Hyundai Motor Company Australia
Phone : 1800 186 306
mailto : customercare@hyundai.com.au
Web : www.hyundai.com.au (http://www.hyundai.com.au)
 

 
 
   
   
   
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: 2i30s on April 19, 2011, 11:52:16
 :goodjob:
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: Dazzler on April 19, 2011, 12:02:14
That's a nice fence he is sitting on.. hope it hasn't got spikey tops... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: alinsslx on April 19, 2011, 12:03:36
Then again, ANY petrol station in Australia carries one of those stickers that tell you to turn off your mobile phone off otherwise you could blow up the petrol station, which is the greatest bunch of crap that has ever been said.
When they replaced my gearbox at 30 000km, I had my K&N filter installed with a big sticker on top of it. NO COMMENTS were made.
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: 2i30s on April 19, 2011, 12:19:44
That's a nice fence he is sitting on.. hope it hasn't got spikey tops... :rolleyes:
:rofl:
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: 2i30s on April 19, 2011, 12:40:30
i think that our dealer service departments are fairly lenient on mods on your car [to an extent] as my car is lowered with a big exhaust and i have never been hassled by my dealer for the mods.  :winker: but a cold air intake and a strutbrace MAY get there attention. :idea:  just remember its a road car,not a race car. if you make a claim under warranty you may get knocked back because they look at the race car mods and assume that you've abused the vehicle. IMO.  :idea:
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: rustynutz on April 19, 2011, 12:48:41
I suspect it's more a case of do whatever you like to your car but don't expect Hyundai to fix whatever stuffs up if it's caused by your mods...... :winker:
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: 2i30s on April 19, 2011, 12:53:03
I suspect it's more a case of do whatever you like to your car but don't expect Hyundai to fix whatever stuffs up if it's caused by your mods...... :winker:
i think you just hit the nail on the head russ. 
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: alinsslx on April 19, 2011, 13:34:17
Best thing is to leave the car alone while under warranty. Mine expires at 130 000ks for business purposes, after that I can do whatever . I can't wait to do my own services, they charge an arm and a leg but deliver very little.
however that's for another topic.
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: rustynutz on April 19, 2011, 13:42:26
But how boring would that be?  :D
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: agentr31 on April 20, 2011, 13:37:43
sif use hyundai for a service...

they are bloody donkeys...
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: 2i30s on April 20, 2011, 13:58:14
sif use hyundai for a service...

they are bloody donkeys...
my donkeys do alright.  :winker:
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: alinsslx on April 20, 2011, 21:59:37
Agent you are right in calling them donkeys.
Hyundai ws gonna do my 45 000ks service without replacing the coolant ?!?!? (what the?) while being dearer than anybody else.
NO THANKS, I THINK I'LL USE K-MART.
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: Shambles on April 20, 2011, 22:12:04
This stops right here right now.


We have, at the last count, 12 dealerships registered within our forum... most of which regularly check the postings in the "problems & issues" section. IPcheck shows other franchises dipping in to see what we're saying.


Please refrain from using abusive epithets - it won't help you one bit.


Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: 2i30s on April 20, 2011, 22:52:01
  :whsaid::goodjob: :hatoff:
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: rustynutz on April 21, 2011, 01:36:03
Gee, I would've classed "donkey" as being well down the list of offensive words....I'm sure dealers have been called much worse than that at times.....  :eek:
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: alinsslx on April 21, 2011, 05:32:00
Hi Shambles,

We won't call them any names, but who should be more worried, us calling them donkeys or themselves performing a service where they charge for something they won't actually do?!?

Enuff of the dealerships, back to the strut bars :)

I'm looking forwards to the out of warranty time when I'll be able to mod my I30 to my liking perhaps adding a rear sway bar as well, Kings springs, Monroe shockers etc...;)


Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: Dazzler on April 21, 2011, 10:14:04
I'm looking forwards to the out of warranty time when I'll be able to mod my I30 to my liking perhaps adding a rear sway bar as well, Kings springs, Monroe shockers etc...;)

There is no way I would be waiting 5 years to do those mods .. Personally I would be a bit wary about voiding the warranty with engine mods but suspension is a bit different .. Those sort of mods shouldn't trigger any warranty claims.
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: alinsslx on April 21, 2011, 11:04:54
I know it sucks, but if used for business I was told they give me a warranty for 130 000Ks only, so I'm at 55 000 now, not long to go :)

I don't think anybody can ever argue a strut bar can damage an engine directly, unless the strut bar was used for racing therefore the racing destroyed the engine. But then again who the heck in the right mind  takes an auto petrol I30 to the racing track ?  My N16 Pulsar which is like 86 Kw manual would smoke the hell out of the 105Kw 2L I30.

The auto gear box IMO is a big let down in favor of economy at this car.
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: agentr31 on April 27, 2011, 10:56:00
the guys up here lost the contract, because they were pretty usless... now i have no local hyundai dealers...
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: 2i30s on April 27, 2011, 11:36:53
who was it Ian?   :disapp:
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: agentr31 on April 27, 2011, 12:21:37
keystar!
Title: Re: Strut bar
Post by: Rec01L on June 17, 2011, 05:00:35
Just and update on this...

The holes on the strut brace mounts are large for a reason, they allow for proper adjustment when installing.

Strut braces should be installed with the car jacked up but with a small amount of pressure remaining on the front wheels to keep them square.

If you install it with the car on the ground you arent adding any preload so its not really bracing as much as its supposed to.

Inversely installing one with the wheels off the ground will result in the camber setup being throw, which inturn loads the brace too much and will result in either the welds on the brace failing after time, the top strut bolts being bent, or worse, cracking the strut towers
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