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Title: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Dazzler on May 12, 2019, 08:11:45
So on one of my many walks I came across this new Maazda 3 Hatch (as the yanks pronounce it)

Talking of butt ugly @Surferdude I'm not keen on the 3 quarter view, otherwise from other angles I think it kooks quite nice. By all accounts the sedan version looks more balanced. The light and the cars positions (one was in a closed showroom) wasn't ideal for photos.

First time I've seen it in the flesh. Couldn't get a decent photo of the interior.  I'll update this if I happen to go past when they are open.

Pretty good fuel figures for 2 5 litre engine and it's not even their new x technology yet.

I note the wheels are 18 inch with pretty good 45 series tyres. I don't think it was the top model the one in the showroom was probably higher? The picture of rear only.
 
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Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Surferdude on May 12, 2019, 08:34:38
Yeah Dazz.
The rear is terrible.
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Surferdude on May 12, 2019, 08:37:23
On another note  and obviously off topic,  a beautiful example of a roadgoing replica of Dick Johnson's "Tru Blu", XD Rock car just drove past our place.
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Dazzler on May 12, 2019, 08:59:12
On another note  and obviously off topic,  a beautiful example of a roadgoing replica of Dick Johnson's "Tru Blu", XD Rock car just drove past our place.

Nice!  :goodjob:
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: CraigB on May 12, 2019, 11:55:41
I quite like the look of the new 3 :cool: the base models get LED front and rear as well :goodjob2:
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Paolo5 on May 12, 2019, 22:42:34
It is all very personal. I quite like the look from the front and the rear...but from the side it looks awful! :sicky:
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: beerman on May 12, 2019, 23:34:20
Has gone up in price a bit too, from what I read.
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Surferdude on May 12, 2019, 23:35:29
Has gone up in price a bit too, from what I read.
Corolla and i30 did the same over the last couple of years.
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Dazzler on May 12, 2019, 23:42:40
It is all very personal. I quite like the look from the front and the rear...but from the side it looks awful! :sicky:

Same as me. Have to be a big over shoulder blind spot. :crazy1:
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: beerman on May 13, 2019, 00:39:29
Has gone up in price a bit too, from what I read.
Corolla and i30 did the same over the last couple of years.

True but you can still get an i30 go quite cheap.
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Surferdude on May 13, 2019, 01:09:15
Has gone up in price a bit too, from what I read.
Corolla and i30 did the same over the last couple of years.

True but you can still get an i30 go quite cheap.
Yes. But they  introduced that quite some time after the i30 PD launch.
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Pappy on May 13, 2019, 11:10:58
I'll definitely take a serious look at the Mazda 3 if they release a 2.5 Turbo version with potentially AWD.
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Dazzler on May 13, 2019, 11:19:40
I'll definitely take a serious look at the Mazda 3 if they release a 2.5 Turbo version with potentially AWD.

They will be better when they release them with their new Sky-Active-X engines..

https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/leaked-document-confirms-mazda-skyactiv-x-power-figures (https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/leaked-document-confirms-mazda-skyactiv-x-power-figures)
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: CraigB on May 13, 2019, 11:42:51
A quick view of the new tech https://www.mazda.com.au/beyond-the-drive/mazda-reveals-skyactiv-x-technology/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=178&v=N_No3KSaTrM
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Pappy on May 13, 2019, 11:59:16
I'll definitely take a serious look at the Mazda 3 if they release a 2.5 Turbo version with potentially AWD.

They will be better when they release them with their new Sky-Active-X engines..

http://www.whichcar.com.au/news/leaked-document-confirms-mazda-skyactiv-x-power-figures (http://www.whichcar.com.au/news/leaked-document-confirms-mazda-skyactiv-x-power-figures)

I'm hoping for the 180kw 2.5T, the EU Sky-Active-X has only 133kw - it's possible AU Sky-Active-X may have more power as our emission laws are not as strict.
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: missymoo on May 14, 2019, 07:31:55
I test drove the new Mazda 3 GT before purchasing my NLine premium. I hated the look of it and despite the amount of tech I really wasn't impressed with it.
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Dazzler on May 14, 2019, 09:07:51
I test drove the new Mazda 3 GT before purchasing my NLine premium. I hated the look of it and despite the amount of tech I really wasn't impressed with it.

Thanks for that. I expected quite a bit from the new Corolla too, which does actually look pretty good, but that was a disappointing drive too.  :fum:
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: CraigB on May 14, 2019, 09:32:22
The ride is supposed to be very good going by reviews  :link: Mazda 3 2019 review | CarsGuide (https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-reviews/mazda-3-2019-72758) I'll have to go and test one myself soon just to check it out, though I'm keen for the new X engine.

Interior is very well sorted with the extra work Mazda has put into the ergonomics and finish and I love the sleek looking exterior, I cant see out the back of my 3dr either so the C pillar blind spot is of little concern...that's what mirrors are for :wink:  the GD's have a massive A pillar blind spot as well as poor rear vision :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Dazzler on May 14, 2019, 10:28:50
Thanks for the review link Craig. I don't know what i think of that reviewer. I've seen a few reviews he's done. I find his style wearing a bit thin on me. He seems like he'd be a nice guy, but he reviews a car like someone that knows nothing about cars and is doing a review for a bunch of Primary School kids.  :crazy1:

Anyway, back to the review. It was a very "airy fairy" not much substance. He did seem too like it though. Be very interesting to drive one. If you drive one I reckon you need to drive an N-line PD as well as a benchmark rather than just comparing it with your 6 year old previous generation model.  :cool:
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Dazzler on May 14, 2019, 12:03:04
Considering the price hike I'm surprised they've gone from independent rear suspension back to torsion beam and this guy reckons even the 2.5 isn't that impressive performance wise.

https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/mazda3-2019-review-australia-117957/ (https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/mazda3-2019-review-australia-117957/)
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: CraigB on May 14, 2019, 12:53:01
If you drive one I reckon you need to drive an N-line PD as well as a benchmark rather than just comparing it with your 6 year old previous generation model.  :cool:
Yeah I'd have to compare against some others, being I keep my vehicles for a longer time I prefer to keep away from the turbos but who knows what I'll want in a few years when I'm ready for the next one :)
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Dazzler on May 26, 2019, 03:30:08
They've got a white one in the showroom today. If I wasn't going to buy one I think white is the colour I wouldn't buy. Looks pretty good except for that C pillar.  I do like the SR and N/Line in white too..
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Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: CraigB on May 26, 2019, 07:37:25
I test drove the new Mazda 3 GT before purchasing my NLine premium. I hated the look of it and despite the amount of tech I really wasn't impressed with it.
If you tested one before buying the N-Line back in February then that would have been the old shape still.
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: CraigB on May 26, 2019, 07:44:09
They've got a white one in the showroom today. If I wasn't going to buy one I think white is the colour I wouldn't buy. Looks pretty good except for that C pillar.  I do like the SR and N/Line in white too..
I wouldn’t want white either, build quality on them is far above anything else in that class though and I love the look of them :goodjob2:
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Dazzler on May 26, 2019, 10:08:43
They've got a white one in the showroom today. If I wasn't going to buy one I think white is the colour I wouldn't buy. Looks pretty good except for that C pillar.  I do like the SR and N/Line in white too..
I wouldn’t want white either, build quality on them is far above anything else in that class though and I love the look of them :goodjob2:

I was being funny... I like the white... I just wouldn't buy a new Mazda 3.. Servicing costs, small boot, C pillar... LOL
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: missymoo on June 04, 2019, 03:11:52
It was definitely the new Astina GT i year drove in April.  They had it less than a week when I took it for a spin.
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Surferdude on June 04, 2019, 04:25:22
They've got a white one in the showroom today. If I wasn't going to buy one I think white is the colour I wouldn't buy. Looks pretty good except for that C pillar.  I do like the SR and N/Line in white too..
I wouldn’t want white either, build quality on them is far above anything else in that class though and I love the look of them :goodjob2:

I was being funny... I like the white... I just wouldn't buy a new Mazda 3.. Servicing costs, small boot, C pillar... LOL
Serious question.
If there's no pillar between the front and back seats, is the C pillar still the C pillar or the B pillar by default.
Asking because I can't tell from the photos if there is actually a B pillar on that car. (small screen tablet).

I don't like the rear three quarter view either, but it might grow on me.
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Dazzler on June 04, 2019, 04:41:17
They've got a white one in the showroom today. If I wasn't going to buy one I think white is the colour I wouldn't buy. Looks pretty good except for that C pillar.  I do like the SR and N/Line in white too..
I wouldn’t want white either, build quality on them is far above anything else in that class though and I love the look of them :goodjob2:

I was being funny... I like the white... I just wouldn't buy a new Mazda 3.. Servicing costs, small boot, C pillar... LOL
Serious question.
If there's no pillar between the front and back seats, is the C pillar still the C pillar or the B pillar by default.
Asking because I can't tell from the photos if there is actually a B pillar on that car. (small screen tablet).

I don't like the rear three quarter view either, but it might grow on me.

They have a discreet black B pillar, but even if they didn't I think the C would still be the C..

I think it will grow on me too, like the PD i30 and Kona have, but think I'll always prefer the sedan style.

The massive blind spot will still be an issue. I'm kind of looking forward to having another sedan as most hatches are worse than sedans in that regard. Being slightly more upright I think the Kona is slightly better for all around vision than the SR, but both would be a lot better than the new mazda rear vision wise i suspect.  :cool:
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: CraigB on June 04, 2019, 07:00:15
If you’ve driven many coupes the C pillar blind spot is quite familiar to that style.
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: The Gonz on June 04, 2019, 10:11:16
Not a fan of C pillars? :P

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Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: CraigB on June 04, 2019, 10:20:00
 :lol: yeah you'll have no blind spot problems with that one Gonz, 360 degrees of panoramic vision :goodjob2:
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Dazzler on June 04, 2019, 12:23:48
Not a fan of C pillars? :P

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I like Uterus's
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Dazzler on June 10, 2019, 05:10:27
Be interested to drive one when they switch to the new technology engines.. Only for interest sake though. Projected economy for Auto isn't that amazing.

 :link: Mazda confirms Skyactiv-X outputs | CarAdvice (https://www.caradvice.com.au/763598/mazda-confirms-skyactiv-x-outputs/?source=trending&slot=1)
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Dazzler on September 05, 2019, 04:56:50
I just happened to be parked near a Mazda dealer today so decided to have a sit in a couple of versions of the Mazda 3 hatch.

Yes, the quality is impressive with all the soft touch materials and stuff but so dark! With the big C pillar and jet black trim including headlining felt like a cave to me. If I'd gone that way I would have had to option red or some other colour seats.

It's all academic anyway, it suffers from the same issue as the new Corolla.  Boot is way too small for us.. Maybe the sedan would be a bit better with larger back windows and a bigger boot. They didn't have one available to look at.
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: CraigB on September 05, 2019, 05:54:18
I think the Mazda comes in 3 colour trims Dazz, black - black with dark plum red and a white option.
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Dazzler on September 05, 2019, 06:25:32
I think the Mazda comes in 3 colour trims Dazz, black - black with dark plum red and a white option.
The youngish salesman was friendly but didn't seem overly knowledgeable. He did mention red. The two levels I saw were black cloth and black leather.
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: CraigB on September 05, 2019, 06:35:05
I think the Mazda comes in 3 colour trims Dazz, black - black with dark plum red and a white option.
The youngish salesman was friendly but didn't seem overly knowledgeable. He did mention red. The two levels I saw were black cloth and black leather.
You can see via Mazda’s website   :link: Next-Gen Mazda3 has arrived | Mazda Australia (https://www.mazda.com.au/cars/mazda3/#design) black with red leather would be my pick :)
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Dazzler on September 05, 2019, 07:10:05
I think the Mazda comes in 3 colour trims Dazz, black - black with dark plum red and a white option.
The youngish salesman was friendly but didn't seem overly knowledgeable. He did mention red. The two levels I saw were black cloth and black leather.
You can see via Mazda’s website   :link: Next-Gen Mazda3 has arrived | Mazda Australia (https://www.mazda.com.au/cars/mazda3/#design) black with red leather would be my pick :)

Not a fan of black cars, but white with red leather would be nice if it was available. 
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: CraigB on September 05, 2019, 09:52:56
Didn’t mean a black car, just black and red leather interior  :)
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: mickd on September 05, 2019, 11:15:33
I think the Mazda comes in 3 colour trims Dazz, black - black with dark plum red and a white option.
The youngish salesman was friendly but didn't seem overly knowledgeable. He did mention red. The two levels I saw were black cloth and black leather.
You can see via Mazda’s website   :link: Next-Gen Mazda3 has arrived | Mazda Australia (https://www.mazda.com.au/cars/mazda3/#design) black with red leather would be my pick :)

Not a fan of black cars, but white with red leather would be nice if it was available.

 :eek: old man had 68 HK  Kingswood, white with red vinyl.
Doors, roof,  bench seats , dash, even the seat belts ( front only )all red.
Title: Re: The new Mazda 3 hatch
Post by: Dazzler on September 05, 2019, 11:53:36
 :goodjob2: @CraigB

and

 :goodjob: @mickd
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