Post by: cdgeorge on October 01, 2015, 10:27:09
I don't mean to run on and on about things but - these are real issues - and simple things like making the front dash too reflective in the sun could annoy some (as well as the tyre pressure warning flashing):
Anyway take a look for yourself...
Post by: Dazzler on October 01, 2015, 10:45:22
I don't want to be negative but - perhaps this is a minor irritant for some - when taking the car back yesterday the sun was shining fully on the front dash and reflecting quite badly up onto the inside of the windscreen - I never notice that much reflection from the other car I drive? It's enough to be obvious - I've attached a picture so you can see what I mean.
I don't mean to run on and on about things but - these are real issues - and simple things like making the front dash too reflective in the sun could annoy some (as well as the tyre pressure warning flashing):
Anyway take a look for yourself...
With respect, sounds like you would be better off with some other brand or model. Most of the members on here are happy with their cars or love them.
I have owned 30 cars (including 3 x i30's) and driven many other work vehicles as well. I don't believe the i30's dash is any shinier or more reflective than other brands.
Tyres noise is about mid range in the class and as Alan says faulty TPMS is not commonly reported on here.
I think you are just getting negative vibes. Getting off on the wrong foot!
Post by: Surferdude on October 01, 2015, 11:28:01
Post by: Mike SX on October 01, 2015, 11:41:50
I've lived and worked in Norfolk.
Norfolk can be very :undecided:
Post by: Doggie 1 on October 01, 2015, 11:49:54
And I've had plenty. :)
Post by: Phil №❶ on October 01, 2015, 12:05:26
Post by: cdgeorge on October 01, 2015, 12:09:50
With respect, sounds like you would be better off with some other brand or model. Most of the members on here are happy with their cars or love them.
I have owned 30 cars (including 3 x i30's) and driven many other work vehicles as well. I don't believe the i30's dash is any shinier or more reflective than other brands.
Tyres noise is about mid range in the class and as Alan says faulty TPMS is not commonly reported on here.
I think you are just getting negative vibes. Getting off on the wrong foot!
I'm not really too negative about it all - I'm just pointing out matters as a result of my test drive - and just thought:
1. Road noise was not brilliant - although now I think acceptable.
2. TPMS has been regarded by the dealer as a common fault that cannot be reset from the console.
3. The dash reflection looked a little excessive (you can see that in the pic).
If I had been out on just the one test drive I would have noticed only point 1., however having had the chance of a second test drive I'm not so fussed about road noise anymore, but I thought I would inform other potential buyers of points 2 and 3 for their information.
I'm still buying it because I'm getting a good price. But no doubt in my mind that the Seat Leon 1.2TSi is a better car in the same class. The Seat brought a smile on my face, whereas the Hyundai seems steadfast and comfortable (polite words for boring). It will get me from A to B without issues and that's my priority.
Post by: cdgeorge on October 01, 2015, 12:11:55
Get a dash mat and wear polaroid sunglasses.
... and some ear defenders :).
Post by: Mike SX on October 01, 2015, 12:12:50
Post by: bumpkin on October 01, 2015, 12:13:35
They all have their issues, it just depends which ones you want to live with.......
Post by: John B on October 01, 2015, 12:15:58
Well, I've never noticed a reflective problem, with my i30 dash :whistler:
Same here, love my i30 , best thing since sliced bread.
Post by: Mike SX on October 01, 2015, 12:16:38
Hmm, Seat, my mate has a 1.4TFSi and it drinks oil like it is going out of fashion (not to mention that the emissions are probably reported wrongly given the current state of the VW group).And one of my colleagues has just traded in his Seat, as the supplying dealer, after 7 months, could not prevent the vehicle regularly entering Limp Home Mode.
They all have their issues, it just depends which ones you want to live with.......
Post by: CraigB on October 01, 2015, 12:24:32
If you don't want to fork out for a dash mat then you can always use antiglare/matt look interior detailer.
I wonder why they call it a Seat? is it because it's lower than your arse :whistler: :D
Post by: eye30 on October 01, 2015, 12:55:17
Post by: cdgeorge on October 01, 2015, 13:16:10
Regarding the SEAT - OK not good. My only experience was the driving experience and not long term experience - and I can only comment that the driving experience is far better all round, whether later on it gulps oil or drops it's axle in a muddle puddle I wouldn't know.
I'm still buying the Hyundai i30 though - because I don't need anything exciting - it would however be icing on the cake - but that icing is gonna cost me significantly more and I have other financial priorities right now.
Post by: Mike SX on October 01, 2015, 13:49:44
OK that's fine - you chaps are more experienced than me on the i30 - I posted the pic so you can see for yourselves.
Have you checked or been on the Seat Forum for any responses - as in this Forum ?
Post by: Just Rick on October 01, 2015, 14:53:37
I've got a dash mat on mine but really, the reflection is no better or no worse than most other brands.
And I've had plenty. :)
So I've heard from the fella's at Hakea :rofl:
Post by: Bugsy on October 01, 2015, 18:56:53
The reflection from the dash is bad but no worse than other cars I have driven, I have discovered that it just does not bother some drivers, but it did me. I made mine worse by shinning it, but with a pair of Polaroid sunglasses I have cut a good 95% of the reflection.
Like Surferdude says it’s all to do with the rake of the windscreen.
Post by: Wingerdave on October 03, 2015, 22:22:40
Post by: The Gonz on October 04, 2015, 00:10:11
There's a trick to solving the reflection problem which has helped me all my life......... Instead of looking AT the windscreen you look THROUGH it ( focus on the road ahead). It's amazing what you see (cars, trucks, pedestrians etc).:lol: :victory:
Post by: ibrokeit on October 04, 2015, 00:43:14
A number of i30 owners report internal 'fogging' of the windscreen - I have experienced it myself and seems to be more frequent when the car is newer.
The 'fog' is a slight build up on the inside of the screen, it is noticeable when the 'light is right' - but I am sure it made dash reflection more noticeable, or I noticed the fog more because of dash reflection.
Due to the fact my i30 is often parked outside - I have a dash mat to protect the dash, etc. so don't get dash reflection very much at all now (what little I might get is at the edges of the windscreen and so not where I am usually looking)
Post by: Surferdude on October 04, 2015, 03:54:10
There's a trick to solving the reflection problem which has helped me all my life......... Instead of looking AT the windscreen you look THROUGH it ( focus on the road ahead). It's amazing what you see (cars, trucks, pedestrians etc).Quite right. I find the same thing when it starts to rain. Don't focus on the rain drops on the screen, focus on the road ahead. The rain drops then become almost invisible.
Post by: The Gonz on October 04, 2015, 06:08:56
Ah, the science of binocular vision! :lol:There's a trick to solving the reflection problem which has helped me all my life......... Instead of looking AT the windscreen you look THROUGH it ( focus on the road ahead). It's amazing what you see (cars, trucks, pedestrians etc).Quite right. I find the same thing when it starts to rain. Don't focus on the rain drops on the screen, focus on the road ahead. The rain drops then become almost invisible.
Post by: Dazzler on October 04, 2015, 06:49:32
There's a trick to solving the reflection problem which has helped me all my life......... Instead of looking AT the windscreen you look THROUGH it ( focus on the road ahead). It's amazing what you see (cars, trucks, pedestrians etc).Quite right. I find the same thing when it starts to rain. Don't focus on the rain drops on the screen, focus on the road ahead. The rain drops then become almost invisible.
It's like the heads up display in my Car. People ask if I find it annoying or distracting but I don't because I only focus on it when I want to check the info, like speed, speed limit or outside temp etc...
Post by: The Gonz on October 04, 2015, 06:52:01
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ay6g66FbkmQ/maxresdefault.jpg)
Post by: Dazzler on October 04, 2015, 07:04:04
Here's what it looks like on the F35:
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ay6g66FbkmQ/maxresdefault.jpg)
Bit busier than mine! :scared:
Post by: The Gonz on October 04, 2015, 09:14:06
Post by: rustynutz on October 05, 2015, 00:48:47
I don't want to be negative but - perhaps this is a minor irritant for some - when taking the car back yesterday the sun was shining fully on the front dash and reflecting quite badly up onto the inside of the windscreen - I never notice that much reflection from the other car I drive? It's enough to be obvious - I've attached a picture so you can see what I mean.
Doesn't the sun only poke it's nose out around twice a year in the UK??? :whistler:
You wouldn't think sun reflection would be a major issue... :undecided: :snigger:
Post by: The Gonz on October 05, 2015, 03:02:41
(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/rifftrax/images/d/d3/Edward.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140619161242)
Post by: cdgeorge on October 05, 2015, 13:35:01
There's a trick to solving the reflection problem which has helped me all my life......... Instead of looking AT the windscreen you look THROUGH it ( focus on the road ahead). It's amazing what you see (cars, trucks, pedestrians etc).
OK smart-arse - I'm well aware you can look through the reflection but at least you acknowledge there is a reflection problem.
With all the replies here you would have thought I was imagining things (but then you have looked at the photo right?).
At least someone else has experienced the same problem here: (from Kieth from Plymouth on 'reevoo' as seen lower down on Hyundai's own website - he's a motorway driver - read below:
Overall quality of build and value for money.
Seating which is as comfortable as any car I have driven
Steering wheel options are extremely useful for different driving conditions.
Bad Points
Lack of rear windscreen washers.
Road noise from tyres is louder than I have been used to. Possibly additional soundproofing under wheel arches could be useful.
Reflection of dashboard on screen is distracting.
Post by: CraigB on October 05, 2015, 13:50:13
Lack of rear windscreen washers.There must have been too much distracting reflections for him to have noticed that there are rear window washers :)
Post by: The Gonz on October 05, 2015, 14:23:59
And I have a dash mat, so no external light reflections noticed.
Post by: asathorny on October 05, 2015, 14:46:01
Post by: Dazzler on October 05, 2015, 22:21:11
I have also noticed at night that the radio screen reflects off the windscreen.
We worked out for another member many moons ago (short female) that this can be helped by adjusting your seating position. Taller drivers don't seem to notice this as much and although of only average height my driving position doesn't give me this reflection in an FD i30. :cool:
Post by: ibrokeit on October 06, 2015, 01:06:19
There's a trick to solving the reflection problem which has helped me all my life......... Instead of looking AT the windscreen you look THROUGH it ( focus on the road ahead). It's amazing what you see (cars, trucks, pedestrians etc).
OK smart-arse - I'm well aware you can look through the reflection but at least you acknowledge there is a reflection problem.
Hehe - yes some of them are (actually probably most). You will get used to it - remember to return fire every so often :whistler:
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With all the replies here you would have thought I was imagining things (but then you have looked at the photo right?).
I did though it is pretty small - so I couldn't tell if my advice in message :link: Reflection from dashboard (https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=37108.msg378145#msg378145) would actually be of use. Though looking at the windscreen near the pillar I think it might be - I am assuming the outside of the windscreen was clean... being there is no wiper marks (showing clean v dirty - from inbuilt window washers + blades). The fogging has been mentioned and/or observed by some members, inc. myself, and you don't necessarily realise it at first until you disturb it.
BTW You can use imgur, photobucket, etc. to post bigger pictures if you wish.
Post by: ibrokeit on October 06, 2015, 01:11:17
I have also noticed at night that the radio screen reflects off the windscreen.
We worked out for another member many moons ago (short female) that this can be helped by adjusting your seating position. Taller drivers don't seem to notice this as much and although of only average height my driving position doesn't give me this reflection in an FD i30. :cool:
Ahh... good point. I am a tallish bugger, even with the seat right down and back (assuming I am sitting upright) I don't have huge head/ceiling clearance. So my angle to windscreen would be shallower than others - which, of course, influences reflection. I never saw the point of the head-unit backlight off feature and/or button (depending on model) - now I get it.
Post by: The Gonz on October 06, 2015, 02:58:34
I imagine that with all the glare from all those medals you'd be well used to it :crazy1: :crazy1: :crazy1: :crazy1: :crazy1: :rofl: :rofl::-[ :lol: :goodjob:
Post by: cdgeorge on October 06, 2015, 08:04:08
I have also noticed at night that the radio screen reflects off the windscreen.
We worked out for another member many moons ago (short female) that this can be helped by adjusting your seating position. Taller drivers don't seem to notice this as much and although of only average height my driving position doesn't give me this reflection in an FD i30. :cool:
Ah that would explain things - I'm officially a dwarf - thanks now we've got that resolved lets move on ...
Post by: Raid on October 06, 2015, 08:12:58
Mine doesnt have rear washers on my i30 active maybe I'm not looking properly but can't find anything for itLack of rear windscreen washers.There must have been too much distracting reflections for him to have noticed that there are rear window washers :)
Post by: AlanHo on October 06, 2015, 08:27:20
My rear washers stopped working once and water was dripping out of the rear hatch. The plastic pipe had come adrift - warranty repair.
Post by: CraigB on October 06, 2015, 08:36:04
Other than the obvious icon pictured on the stickMine doesnt have rear washers on my i30 active maybe I'm not looking properly but can't find anything for itLack of rear windscreen washers.There must have been too much distracting reflections for him to have noticed that there are rear window washers :)
(http://i61.tinypic.com/11mc41g.jpg)
You'll also see the water outlet in the base of the rear wing brake light
(http://i.imgur.com/GozPUkP.jpg?1)
Post by: Raid on October 06, 2015, 08:37:31
Post by: AlanHo on October 06, 2015, 14:15:45
Do you have a manual for your car ?
Post by: Doggie 1 on October 06, 2015, 14:19:10
My previous 2013 i30 manual shows you how to use the rear washer on page 4-98.
Do you have a manual for your car ?
It might be an automatic. :snigger:
Post by: AlanHo on October 06, 2015, 14:21:50
My previous 2013 i30 manual shows you how to use the rear washer on page 4-98.
Do you have a manual for your car ?
It might be an automatic. :snigger:
Watch out Dave - that might be taken seriously.............. :rofl:
Post by: asathorny on October 06, 2015, 15:26:59
My previous 2013 i30 manual shows you how to use the rear washer on page 4-98.
Do you have a manual for your car ?
It might be an automatic. :snigger:
Watch out Dave - that might be taken seriously.............. :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :crazy1: :crazy1: I had to read it twice :head_butt: :head_butt: :head_butt:
Post by: AlanHo on October 06, 2015, 17:10:24
My previous 2013 i30 manual shows you how to use the rear washer on page 4-98.
Do you have a manual for your car ?
It might be an automatic.
Watch out Dave - that might be taken seriously..............
I had to read it twice
I just knew someone would have a job working out the subtlety of that ......... :rofl: :rofl:
Post by: Raid on October 06, 2015, 17:27:09
My previous 2013 i30 manual shows you how to use the rear washer on page 4-98.Yep got a manual for my car saw the page aswell but will have to double check on my car when I drive it later on thanks guys
Do you have a manual for your car ?
Post by: Wingerdave on October 07, 2015, 00:21:49
Post by: ibrokeit on October 07, 2015, 00:34:15
Hey, it ain't just my arse that's smart :whistler:
So your big toe is too? :rofl: Sorry couldn't pass it up!! :D
Post by: Wingerdave on October 07, 2015, 00:40:25
Post by: AlanHo on October 07, 2015, 10:14:10
The whole screen will then be covered by an even shiny reflection which will not be as noticeable as when there are odd reflections in different parts of the screen. :whistler:
Post by: Wingerdave on October 07, 2015, 10:43:50
The obvious way to cure reflections is to cover your dash with aluminium foil - the shiny side up.
The whole screen will then be covered by an even shiny even reflection which will not be as noticeable as when there are odd reflections in different parts of the screen. :whistler:
Well, nothing more to be said :snigger:
Post by: asathorny on October 07, 2015, 10:48:38
The obvious way to cure reflections is to cover your dash with aluminium foil - the shiny side up.
The whole screen will then be covered by an even shiny even reflection which will not be as noticeable as when there are odd reflections in different parts of the screen. :whistler:
Well, nothing more to be said :snigger:
I think your being a bit previous there !!!
I am sure that you can now buy non-reflective paints. This could personalize the car with an attractive finish, maybe some nice polka-dot paint sprayed over the offending area would add value to an otherwise bog standard, not to mention boring, factory finish. :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob:
Post by: The Gonz on October 07, 2015, 13:43:08
... maybe some nice polka-dot paint sprayed over the offending area would add value to an otherwise bog standard, not to mention boring, factory finish. :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob:Great idea! I have a can of striped paint going cheap for whoever is interested, along with a left-handed screwdriver for those who may need it to help open it. :D
Post by: Wingerdave on October 07, 2015, 14:32:10
Post by: asathorny on October 07, 2015, 16:12:00
... maybe some nice polka-dot paint sprayed over the offending area would add value to an otherwise bog standard, not to mention boring, factory finish. :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob:Great idea! I have a can of striped paint going cheap for whoever is interested, along with a left-handed screwdriver for those who may need it to help open it. :D
Yes, or striped.... excellent :crazy1: :crazy1:
Post by: AlanHo on October 07, 2015, 16:42:05
Post by: eye30 on October 07, 2015, 16:44:48
Post by: Raid on October 07, 2015, 16:45:44
My previous 2013 i30 manual shows you how to use the rear washer on page 4-98.Thanks for your help I checked it and found it. For some reason didn't see it as I was looking on the rear but its build it the stop lights my bad but thanks Alan Ho.
Do you have a manual for your car ?
Post by: AlanHo on October 07, 2015, 19:48:24
I don't mind at all helping - but you are giving the impression that you have not read the owners manual. I know it's a man thing to buy something and press buttons at random in the hope of getting your latest gadget working - but I have at last realised, with your help - that reading the manual is actually a time saver....... :goodjob2:
Post by: wbm00 on October 07, 2015, 20:06:49
My previous 2013 i30 manual shows you how to use the rear washer on page 4-98.Thanks for your help I checked it and found it. For some reason didn't see it as I was looking on the rear but its build it the stop lights my bad but thanks Alan Ho.
Do you have a manual for your car ?
You remind me of my school teacher who bought a standalone DVD drive, not realising his new laptop already had an integrated drive. :rofl:
Post by: Raid on October 07, 2015, 20:08:06
Hahaha to be honest with u I didn't check the stick I went at the back of the car looking for the washer couldn't find it lolMy previous 2013 i30 manual shows you how to use the rear washer on page 4-98.Thanks for your help I checked it and found it. For some reason didn't see it as I was looking on the rear but its build it the stop lights my bad but thanks Alan Ho.
Do you have a manual for your car ?
You remind me of my school teacher who bought a standalone DVD drive, not realising his new laptop already had an integrated drive. :rofl:
Post by: AlanHo on October 07, 2015, 20:12:00
" Why buy a new one - the one we've got is OK, it's only had 3 new heads and 5 new handles, it will last a while longer"
Post by: eye30 on October 07, 2015, 20:16:39
I was going to buy a new sweeping brush - but my wife stopped me with the argumentDid she say broom broom at the end of that sentence
" Why buy a new one - the one we've got is OK, it's only had 3 new heads and 5 new handles, it will last a while longer"
Post by: AlanHo on October 07, 2015, 20:30:48
I was going to buy a new sweeping brush - but my wife stopped me with the argumentDid she say broom broom at the end of that sentence
" Why buy a new one - the one we've got is OK, it's only had 3 new heads and 5 new handles, it will last a while longer"
It's hard to remember minor details with a broom shoved up yer jacksy. :whistler: :crazy1:
Post by: Dazzler on October 07, 2015, 20:40:29
Anyone noticed the reflection you get at night when under sodium street lights
I was going to check that out, but I can't! I'm on a low sodium diet.. :whistler: :winker:
Causes a few problems actually. I had to get rid of a SSS Pulsar once (I found out it had sodium filled valves!!) :disapp:
Post by: The Gonz on October 07, 2015, 21:24:29
Anyone noticed the reflection you get at night when under sodium street lightsNa :disapp:
Post by: bumpkin on October 08, 2015, 10:06:45
Post by: Doggie 1 on October 08, 2015, 10:17:43
Can anybody help me get a new bubble for my spirit level?
I find that making my own in the bath is the cheapest option. :neutral:
Post by: asathorny on October 08, 2015, 10:18:20
Can anybody help me get a new bubble for my spirit level?
You'll need a bucket of steam first then a long stand :crazy1: :crazy1: :crazy1: :crazy1: :crazy1:
Post by: wbm00 on October 08, 2015, 14:38:24
Can anybody help me get a new bubble for my spirit level?B&Q have an offer on sprit level bubbles - buy three, get a free tin of tartan paint. :crazy1:
Post by: eye30 on October 08, 2015, 14:55:47
Or just eat the bean yourself and catch the expelled wind in the tube,.
Either way ........ you'll never get in sniffing distance to a spirit level again
Post by: CraigB on October 08, 2015, 15:49:10
To big for spirit levels Dave, need to get them from crabs down at the estuary.Can anybody help me get a new bubble for my spirit level?
I find that making my own in the bath is the cheapest option. :neutral:
Post by: Mike SX on October 08, 2015, 17:50:20
Low pressure Na ? :whistler:Anyone noticed the reflection you get at night when under sodium street lightsNa :disapp:
Post by: ibrokeit on October 09, 2015, 02:08:44
Just thought it needed to be said... :hahaha:
Post by: Mike SX on October 09, 2015, 10:33:19
:offtopic:Norfolk/Tyre Pressures :whistler:
Just thought it needed to be said... :hahaha:
Never mind :D