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FUEL ISSUES & ECONOMY => DIESEL => Topic started by: TheReaper on March 28, 2014, 22:47:13
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Got 4700km logged on the car and the fuel economy is now starting to set in, up until yesterday, the best I could get was 5.9 L/100k. Now I am starting to average 5.2-5.4 even going up steep inclines. Excited to see what I can get the average down too!
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Probably partly to do with your driving technique too! :winker:
I found I improved my driving for economy when I had a CRDi and still hold me in good stead with the Hybrid!
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I do have a pretty steady foot. :lol:
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On the whole, I reckon the fuel economy of my diesel has got worse...... :undecided:
Might have something to do with all that lovely torque and me being unable to resist making the most of it.... :D
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I average in Cyril 5.4L/100 in Bruce a little better 5.1L/100 but I have over a week averaged 4.8L/100 in Cyril and in Bruce I have been able to get down too 4.1L/100,but then my right foot gets the better of me,I haven't got that much time to waste a week to go everywhere at 75-80 kph.
I average 1400 k's a week so at the slower speed that would add at least five hours travelling a week,no thanks,with travelling to and from work and driving for a living,I spend enough time on the road.
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:rofl: HAHAHA!
On the whole, I reckon the fuel economy of my diesel has got worse...... :undecided:
Might have something to do with all that lovely torque and me being unable to resist making the most of it.... :D
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I average in Cyril 5.4L/100 in Bruce a little better 5.1L/100 but I have over a week averaged 4.8L/100 in Cyril and in Bruce I have been able to get down too 4.1L/100,but then my right foot gets the better of me,I haven't got that much time to waste a week to go everywhere at 75-80 kph.
I average 1400 k's a week so at the slower speed that would add at least five hours travelling a week,no thanks,with travelling to and from work and driving for a living,I spend enough time on the road.
I average roughly the same to you, maybe just slightly less. I know exactly where you're coming from.
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Your both in the right car! 1,400k a week!
Rick wonder why Bruce gets better than cyril? every time i read his name Cyril, reminds me of a work mate i had, i christened Cyril & it stuck. ( good bloke )
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Your both in the right car! 1,400k a week!
Rick wonder why Bruce gets better than cyril? every time i read his name Cyril, reminds me of a work mate i had, i christened Cyril & it stuck. ( good bloke )
Yeah mate, lot of distance covered. I need to find a closer job to Newcastle. I work out of Liverpool, and then also work a lot around Sydney and the CBD. So I travel a lot. Normally stay with my missus' brother and his partner in Marrickville. But his partner is a cop for the botany district and has seen some bad stuff in the past couple years, and is now getting out and has been getting treated for PTSD. So haven't been able to stay with them. So back and forward to Newcastle for me. Or at least until I find a closer job, or my missus finds a better job in Sydney.
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Your both in the right car! 1,400k a week!
Rick wonder why Bruce gets better than cyril? every time i read his name Cyril, reminds me of a work mate i had, i christened Cyril & it stuck. ( good bloke )
Yeah mate, lot of distance covered. I need to find a closer job to Newcastle. I work out of Liverpool, and then also work a lot around Sydney and the CBD. So I travel a lot. Normally stay with my missus' brother and his partner in Marrickville. But his partner is a cop for the botany district and has seen some bad stuff in the past couple years, and is now getting out and has been getting treated for PTSD. So haven't been able to stay with them. So back and forward to Newcastle for me. Or at least until I find a closer job, or my missus finds a better job in Sydney.
That's a long commute! should get transferred up Newcastle, or is that hard?
i'm sure the M2 & M7 toll company love you too
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Your both in the right car! 1,400k a week!
Rick wonder why Bruce gets better than cyril? every time i read his name Cyril, reminds me of a work mate i had, i christened Cyril & it stuck. ( good bloke )
Yeah mate, lot of distance covered. I need to find a closer job to Newcastle. I work out of Liverpool, and then also work a lot around Sydney and the CBD. So I travel a lot. Normally stay with my missus' brother and his partner in Marrickville. But his partner is a cop for the botany district and has seen some bad stuff in the past couple years, and is now getting out and has been getting treated for PTSD. So haven't been able to stay with them. So back and forward to Newcastle for me. Or at least until I find a closer job, or my missus finds a better job in Sydney.
That's a long commute! should get transferred up Newcastle, or is that hard?
i'm sure the M2 & M7 toll company love you too
No transfer available. I work for a private ambo company, and only have a office in Liverpool, and do contracted work all around NSW. :(
And the M2 and the M7 don't get any money from me, I go up pendant hills to Cumberland and then to the hume hwy and Hoxton park rd. :lol: :lol: :lol: No highway robbery for me!! :whistler:
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i was the same, i used to use the toll ways, then saw how much they would take from bank account per month, also the m7 takes a long route. so i was avoiding them.
now no toll ways, no parking rangers, no parking meters no fixed speed camera's & no traffic lights, no american fast food outlets. love it. slow pace.
sorry to go off topic, still showing 5.2L /100k i don't turn trip pc off, seems to be about average all round for me. but if i turn it off & drive right i can have it reading low 4's, have driven Sydney to Melbourne via the coast road ( 1,049k ) ( 50 or 60 k b4 CBD ) on 45L, i normally get 57L from fuel light on to brimmed tank so would still have had enough for a few 100k.
love it.
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Did a quick eco-test yesterday on the way home from work.
Coming out of work it's a slight downhill run at 80 km/h for about 2.5km. Once on the flat it's up to 100 km/h for about 4 km, then down to 60 km/h for another 2 kays, with a couple of intersections before my place.
I zeroed the economy meter at the top of the hill and slipped it into 6th. Economy dropped down to 2.8l/100 km. Then on the flat it increased slowly to 4.8l/100 km, finally up to 5.1l by the time I got home.
The driving was as conservative as it could be.
On the freeway on my way to Melbourne (110km/h), I zeroed the eco-meter once on the freeway and set cruise to 110. By the time I got to the freeway exit some 110 kays later, the meter was indicating 5.4l/100 km. Again, freeway cruising with no harsh acceleration or braking.
Overall average is 5.9 l/100 km. That's measured by an iPhone app which I use which calculates usage based on kilometres travelled and fuel actually used. And manual calcs verify the app's accuracy.
So, I'd dearly love to know how people can get low 5s/high 4s out of their CRDis...
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The most klms I have travelled from an absolutely full tank (I could see the fuel in the filler neck) to when the fuel warning light came on is 1323 klms. But I was doing some silly stuff, like folding the left mirror in some of the time on the highway, not carrying the spare wheel, coasting as much as possible downhill and probably doing 80 to 90 kph on the highway between Melbourne and Ballarat. I can't remember how many Melb to Ballt trips were in the 1323 klms, but there were prob. at least 2, maybe 3. I would have had the tyres pumped up well and I would have been the only person in the car most of the time. I live in Melb so the other klms would have been Melb klms.
There is one downhill stretch from the Pentland Hills to near Bacchus Marsh where it's easy to coast 5 klms.
Maybe the 1323 klms was when I had the narrow spare tyre fitted. Perhaps that helped: less weight and friction. I should (but won't) get 3 more of the same spares from wreckers and go for another personal record.
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I drove over to Adelaide yesterday afternoon/night and my trip computer is indicating 4.5l/100k.
I used the cruise control most of the time....
I did see a low of 4.2l/100k for a while but once out on the open highway where the speed limit was 110kph up she rose. Still pretty impressed though.... :goodjob:
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Good going, Rusty. Welcome to the Great Southern Land. :lol:
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Thanks Gonz! :victory:
The more long trips I do in it, the more impressed I get with the car's performance. :goodjob:
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Good results! :goodjob:
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Thanks, that was over 840.7 kilometres (trip meter) or 869.0 (GPS)..... :victory:
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My 2007 CRDi has no fuel consumption indicator. How difficult would it be to fit one? Is there something that will give instant readouts as you drive?
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Your both in the right car! 1,400k a week!
Rick wonder why Bruce gets better than cyril? every time i read his name Cyril, reminds me of a work mate i had, i christened Cyril & it stuck. ( good bloke )
Yeah mate, lot of distance covered. I need to find a closer job to Newcastle. I work out of Liverpool, and then also work a lot around Sydney and the CBD. So I travel a lot. Normally stay with my missus' brother and his partner in Marrickville. But his partner is a cop for the botany district and has seen some bad stuff in the past couple years, and is now getting out and has been getting treated for PTSD. So haven't been able to stay with them. So back and forward to Newcastle for me. Or at least until I find a closer job, or my missus finds a better job in Sydney.
That's a long commute! should get transferred up Newcastle, or is that hard?
i'm sure the M2 & M7 toll company love you too
No transfer available. I work for a private ambo company, and only have a office in Liverpool, and do contracted work all around NSW. :(
And the M2 and the M7 don't get any money from me, I go up pendant hills to Cumberland and then to the hume hwy and Hoxton park rd. :lol: :lol: :lol: No highway robbery for me!! :whistler:
You don't work with Big Mike, do you?
I don't mind paying tolls, if it is going to save me time. I don't like paying tolls to sit in traffic. I used to use the M7 when travelling from Nowra to Newcastle. It would cut 45 minutes off the trip, each way. My time is much more valuable than the toll you pay.
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For me to use it for work out in Liverpool it cost me $20 a day. Saves money to stay off it. It usually only takes me an extra 20 minutes
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My 2007 CRDi has no fuel consumption indicator. How difficult would it be to fit one? Is there something that will give instant readouts as you drive?
There's a data outlet somewhere under the dash. I forget what it's called, exactly but it's been discussed here before. When an appropriate adapter is connected and the appropriate app installed on a smart phone a bluetooth connection then allows it to interrogate the car's computer. It may display fuel consumption that way.
It'd be good if earlier vehicles which have this data output and double DIN displays (or room for one) could be fitted with a display unit which could be connected to this data output to activate a trip computer app within the display.
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There's a data outlet somewhere under the dash. I forget what it's called ...
Yes you could connect a dongle to the OBDII port to link to an app (like Torque) on a smartphone, or purchase a ScanGauge2 to do the same.
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Y'all are complaining about mid to high 5's for efficiency but if you were currently driving a Falcon and getting mid 11's low 12's around town like I am, then you won't be so vocal I recon! :D Considering a Premium CRDi and reading this post gives me more reason to make the change.
If anyone does have a Premium, please let me know. I'd rather an owner encourage the decision then a salesman pushing a sale.
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Y'all are complaining about mid to high 5's for efficiency but if you were currently driving a Falcon and getting mid 11's low 12's around town like I am, then you won't be so vocal I recon! :D Considering a Premium CRDi and reading this post gives me more reason to make the change.
If anyone does have a Premium, please let me know. I'd rather an owner encourage the decision then a salesman pushing a sale.
lol. :lol: I don't have the premium, I just have the active crdi. But as for consumption they will practically do the same. It just means you have a few extra options and gadgets to play with. The dealer says you will get 3.7 L/100km. Don't think anyone has seen that. But just remeber any new diesel will take about 15, 000km before you see the results. First few thousand k's you will probably be in the 7.0 range. Then you begin to drop little by little.
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Once you join the i30 CRDi rank's you become a cheap miserable B…t.rd :rofl:
before i joined this group i did not care & drove a V8 falcon Ute & lived in my wallet :rofl: getting about 10L/100K country & 14L/100K city drinking 98 octane premium. now hang out with people that cry if they can't get 4L/100K :rofl:
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Once you join the i30 CRDi rank's you become a cheap miserable B…t.rd :rofl:
before i joined this group i did not care & drove a V8 falcon Ute & lived in my wallet :rofl: getting about 10L/100K country & 14L/100K city drinking 98 octane premium. now hang out with people that cry if they can't get 4L/100K :rofl:
:rofl: :whsaid:
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Y'all are complaining about mid to high 5's for efficiency but if you were currently driving a Falcon and getting mid 11's low 12's around town like I am, then you won't be so vocal I recon! :D Considering a Premium CRDi and reading this post gives me more reason to make the change.
If anyone does have a Premium, please let me know. I'd rather an owner encourage the decision then a salesman pushing a sale.
I have a Premium GD in diesel, switched to it from a 2005 Magna V6.
I used to get an average of 12.6-13L/100Km.
My running average is now 6.19L/100K, driving the same route. My best has been 5.6L/100K.
I should point out that when I made the decision to get a new car, my back of napkin maths figured I would get around the 6L/100K in a four cylinder car of similar spec to the i30 CRDI, so I am happy with what I get.
To give you an idea of the mileage, my daily trip is 74Km return, and I spend at least 25-28Km of that on highway at 100Kph. I rarely drive my car out of this routine, so I've got very consistent data, aside from when I decide to have a bit of fun with the accelerator.
If you do a lot of short trips (less than 10 minutes), then the diesel may not be the right engine type for your needs.
It is a marvellous car to drive, however if you want to take the frugality further, you really need to get the manual diesel, which sadly the Premium model doesn't come in.
Over 24,100K on the ODO, and I am very happy with my purchase.
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To give you an idea of the mileage, my daily trip is 74Km return, and I spend at least 25-28Km of that on highway at 100Kph. I rarely drive my car out of this routine, so I've got very consistent data, aside from when I decide to have a bit of fun with the accelerator.
Thanks for that. My commute to/from work is about 84km none of which is on the highway. I've done calculations comparing what I get now to the advertised worst case scenario (about 7.5L/100km) fuel consumption on the i30. If I'm right I might be saving somewhere around $40 a week on fuel, based on current average fuel prices.
Might test drive a new one soon, but from the sounds of it if I want to see a difference immediately buy used with 10,000+km on the clock...
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You will see an advantage either in a new or used one. The added advantage of buying used is that the depreciation has been almost taken care of by the first owner, making it more affordable to get into the model you want.
I was fortunate to mention that I work in the education sector, as Hyundai (at the time) were doing fleet prices for anyone working in education. I don't know if that is still the case, but it knocked about $5,000 right of the sticker price. Only thing is I don't have a capped service plan, and the warranty is 160,000Km/5Yr whichever comes first.
Although, looking at the Hyundai Australia website, it indicates the warranty even in fleet vehicles is unlimited Km. Might do some querying!
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I have just clocked up 2000km in my car. Filled up four times and averaging 6.6 l/100km. Have returned the following figures:
6.6 l/100km - about 50/50 highway and city. Quite a bit of city driving was short trips.
7.0 l/100km - mostly city driving (70%) with two trips of 30km each way to city in peak hour heavy traffic.
6.3 l/100km - same profile as the first one.
Hopefully I am seeing signs of the fuel consumption improving as I put more kms on the clock.
Overall I am very happy with the fuel consumption. Taking the car up country to Eildon over Easter, which will include a drive up and over the Black Spur between Healesville and Buxton. Looking forward to see how well she performs up the winding mountain road as my last car (a four cylinder Camry) was a bit of a dog on that sort of road.
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That's right on par for the amount of k's. It will drop to about 5.9 at around 5000km and 5.2-5.4 at 8000km and is where I sit currently
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Went today and test drove a i30 CRDi Trophy. Not interested in the Trophy but the drive and handling is what I wanted to test. Pretty impressed. Smooth acceleration and if you gave it to it, it would give back. Handling was firm I found. Adjusted the settings (normal, comfort, sport) didn't see a drastic difference, but I prefer a firmer handling with good feedback anyway so didn't bug me.
All in all quite a good ride
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Sounds like a fun time was had. What's next :question:
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Still wanting to keep my options open. Want to have a look at the Focus and Cruze, although from what I can see for options the i30 is better. But would like to try and have a drive of those two.
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Still wanting to keep my options open. Want to have a look at the Focus and Cruze, although from what I can see for options the i30 is better. But would like to try and have a drive of those two.
:TutTut: Only joking (but fairly confident you will choose the i30 after driving all three) :victory:
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And just an fyi. Its technically a Daewoo rebranded
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And just an fyi. Its technically a Daewoo rebranded
he means the cruse (not the i30)
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That's what I meant with the cruze, sorry that post was vague
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well i had to drive 70k as wanted a better vacuum cleaner. also needed to go to ALDI, well the fuel light was on so i filled her to the top, i was re setting the trip but re set the L/100k as that was showing not the trip, before it had been a while since i reset the L/100K & it was showing 5.1L/100K & i don't drive that slow . car has 66k up now. anyway it's double points this weekend plus lot of lost sole's on the roads :rofl: . so was watching the speed when i got 70 k was showing 4.3L/100K air temp was 23c . i got a vacuum cleaner, & saw the Hy dealer just up road so walked up & they had a new i30 SR but was auto, i was looking & salesman showed up told me to hop in take a good look. i loved the leather power adjustable drivers seat. i told him i loved it but worried the petrol motor would not have the Torque to pull the hill's we have in the area. he said this 2L motor is faster has a lot of Torque he went & got brochure pointed out 209nm TQ i pointed out the little 1.6 diesel has 260nm he got a shock . CRDi 1.6 260nm @ 1,900 to 2,750 , 2.0L petrol 209nm@ 4,700 . if you look at the power its 94kw @ 4000 for the 1.6 CRDi & 129kw @ 6,500 for the 2.0L petrol. But how many KW is the 2.0L petrol making @ 4000 thats what i'd like to know i never rev past about 3,500 in my CRDi & mostly below 3,000. another thing i don't like is the fact the keyless entry & push button start stop you loose the lock on the glove box. now there is one thing i hate and thats not having a lock on the glove box. i lock my clove box.
when i got home 140k from fill up trip pc reading 4.5L/100K so happy as lot of cars on road lot of big hill's & cold mix roads 100kph speeds
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Having recently moved house, my daily drive now has more open roads (before I hit the metro traffic) and my fuel economy has changed from @ 5.2l/100 kms when I lived in the metro to now @ 4,7-4.8/100 kms.
I used to fill up once a week, now it seems to be about every five days.
The car is loving the freeway runs, the only real issue being road noise. :(
When the original tyres (Nexens) finally wear out (now done 63,000 kms), I'll fit a set of Continentals then I won't give one. :D
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And just an fyi. Its technically a Daewoo rebranded
How so? Engine? Drive train? Pardon my ignorance... :(
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And just an fyi. Its technically a Daewoo rebranded
How so? Engine? Drive train? Pardon my ignorance... :(
I think the Cruse started life as a Daewoo body and drivetrain but had major tweaks by GM since then ... I will add a link to Wiki which might tell us more.
Daewoo Lacetti in Korea...
Chevrolet Cruze - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Cruze)
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And just an fyi. Its technically a Daewoo rebranded
How so? Engine? Drive train? Pardon my ignorance... :(
I think the Cruse started life as a Daewoo body and drivetrain but had major tweaks by GM since then ... I will add a link to Wiki which might tell us more.
Daewoo Lacetti in Korea...
Chevrolet Cruze - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Cruze)
Thanks for that. Personally I think the Cruze look a whole lot better then the Daewoo!
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Not sure about Cruise as never driven one or been in one. but the Diesel Focus fly's, my friends wife has had two they have a bigger motor than the i30 CRDi, but they use more fuel, still would blow the i30 off easy, just can only get them auto now. i almost bought a Focus Diesel 6 speed manual in 2008. but it stalled easy don't know why, it road very smooth performed strong, had a better gear shift, but seemed to have a flat spot off idle & would stall. so went with i30 CRDi never looked back. but my friend got a 09 focus diesel did 200,000k loved it got the new focus diesel auto last year its a titanium. they love it.they have 80,000k up already no problems. but ,,,,, no lock on glove box :disapp:
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And the blinker stalk is on the wrong side.... :p
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And the blinker stalk is on the wrong side.... :p
Rusty the 08 to about 2010? Focus had stork on left side , but the new Focus has in same as i30 ( they changed with the new model ) take a look.
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@ John, I drove a Cruse Diesel when they first came out. Felt reasonably strong but not as responsive to the accelerator as the FD i30 IMHO. Plus they are very claustrophobic inside (both Trish and I found that) :fum:
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And the blinker stalk is on the wrong side.... :p
Rusty the 08 to about 2010? Focus had stork on left side , but the new Focus has in same as i30 ( they changed with the new model ) take a look.
That's good to know, John...hopefully they do the same with their other European sourced vehicles.... :goodjob:
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@ John, I drove a Cruse Diesel when they first came out. Felt reasonably strong but not as responsive to the accelerator as the FD i30 IMHO. Plus they are very claustrophobic inside (both Trish and I found that) :fum:
I drove one before buying my GD but as they couldn't offer a manual diesel it wasn't of much use to me.
They are a bit claustrophobic inside too. I know what you mean.
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Haha, funny. I didn't test drive a cruze before getting the GD, but sat in one. My response was, "yeah, nah" :)