My bad luck continues

tw2005 · **Reply #30: July 18, 2016, 11:19:47**

You'd think someone would have a 1.1 bar or 16psi radiator cap. Subaru Forester 2005 -2014 uses same spec(here at least)

Doggie 1 · **Reply #31: July 18, 2016, 11:20:28**

Quote from: Dazzler on July 18, 2016, 11:18:34

Quote from: Doggie 1 on July 18, 2016, 11:10:02
Aw c'mon, Dazz.
You laughed too.

Didn't have a problem with your joke.. just sad for Henning! It's bad enough having no power for a few hours (at tea time!) I'd hate to be 1750 kms away from home with a crook car!

Asterix · **Reply #32: July 18, 2016, 11:56:16**

Only positive was the girl at the reception desk. She was very very pretty..

Doggie 1 · **Reply #33: July 18, 2016, 11:57:20**

Quote from: Asterix on July 18, 2016, 11:56:16

Only positive was the girl at the reception desk. She was very very pretty..

Pics or it didn't happen.

Asterix · **Reply #34: July 19, 2016, 12:28:50**

Just went back from the Hy dealer. I'm a little puzzled.

On our trip to the dealer, 30 km, the overflow bottle was full. 0.5 liter. At the dealer I changed the coolant cap. As the engine was now at operating temp I couldn't fill all the "overflow" coolant back into the coolant reservoir.
When back home at the campsite there was only a little coolant in my overflow bottle.

I'm not sure what to think. Will now let the engine cool off for some hours and take a swim i the Lake Garda. Later I will check coolant level and go for another test drive.

Dazzler · **Reply #35: July 19, 2016, 12:34:18**

Bit of a tricky one! Thanks for keeping us posted Henning.

Doggie 1 · **Reply #36: July 19, 2016, 12:39:57**

Sounds like head gasket to me.

asathorny · **Reply #37: July 19, 2016, 12:44:19**

Or maybe it was an airlock which cleared and therefor reduced the amount in the overflow tank. Always trying to look in the bright side of life

Phil №❶ · **Reply #38: July 19, 2016, 13:02:50**

Once stopped with a hot engine, engine temp increases, filling the overflow bottle. If allowed to cool, that fluid will be reintroduced to the cooling system due to liquid contraction. When driving, the coolant is regulated @ about 80 Deg C I believe and if you check the coolant overflow immediately after driving, the engine temp will not have had time to rise sufficiently to expel the coolant to the bottle.

Best procedure would be to ensure that the bottle is at max when cold then drive the car and recheck again after engine has completely cooled.

eye30 · **Reply #39: July 19, 2016, 16:36:58**

Any signs fluid escaping from overfill bottle relief tube. Not the return to the rad but the other

baroudeur · **Reply #40: July 19, 2016, 17:19:24**

Quote from: Asterix on July 18, 2016, 10:17:01

Just came back from the Hyundai dealer in Verona , 30 km from here.
Of course they didn't have the cap on stock, so need to go back tomorrow.

What a sad experience. Noone there spoke English or German. If I hadn't had a photo of the part I needed they would be totally lost.

Came by a Kia dealer, same shit....

What's wrong with pointing at the item required on another car?

Go to the opera in the Verona ampitheatre absolutely stunning even for non-opera fans. Starts on Friday with Carmen. Take your own cushion and wine!

Asterix · **Reply #41: July 21, 2016, 23:01:34**

Hi Guys. We're now back home in Denmark, but it was a long trip, ca 1700 km, when we have to stop for 1,5 hours every 250 km for the engine to cool down enough so I could add 1,5-2,0 liter water again...

Been on the road for 15 hours today so I'm tired now, will give more details tomorrow.

I think I here have the proof for exhaust gasses on the coolant:

This is the bottle I added to find out if and how much coolant was thrown out of the coolant reservoir:

Phil №❶ · **Reply #42: July 22, 2016, 00:59:01**

Back to the workshop to do the job properly, But now the head will most likely need machining

The Gonz · **Reply #43: July 22, 2016, 02:02:43**

Back in the daze, that meant lower cylinder capacity for more compression for more power.

Phil №❶ · **Reply #44: July 22, 2016, 02:20:00**

I know it sounds stupid, but I would have rigged a gravity fed self replenishing coolant system to drive that far home.

sundiz · **Reply #45: July 22, 2016, 03:42:40**

Happy to hear you got home safely. I hope you'll get it sorted out with the workshop without any hassle.

Might not have been one of the most pleasent holiday trips, but I think it was one of the most memoriable.

Dazzler · **Reply #46: July 22, 2016, 07:06:10**

What sundiz said! A lesser car wouldn't have made it!

Paolo5 · **Reply #47: July 22, 2016, 07:15:46**

Quote from: Dazzler on July 22, 2016, 07:06:10

What sundiz said! A lesser car wouldn't have made it!

I agree with Daz!

....and Sundiz!

Asterix · **Reply #48: July 22, 2016, 10:26:18**

Quote from: Phil №❶ on July 22, 2016, 02:20:00

I know it sounds stupid, but I would have rigged a gravity fed self replenishing coolant system to drive that far home.

How..

The pressure from the combustion would have blown the coolant out of the cooling system anyway..

Asterix · **Reply #49: July 22, 2016, 10:27:26**

Quote from: Paolo5 on July 22, 2016, 07:15:46

Quote from: Dazzler on July 22, 2016, 07:06:10
What sundiz said! A lesser car wouldn't have made it!

I agree with Daz! ....and Sundiz!

Must admit I'm very impressed with the little CRDi engine to cope with this stress....

Asterix · **Reply #50: July 22, 2016, 10:30:40**

UPDATE.

Went to the dealer this morning and actually talked to the guy who did the repair prior to our vacation. You should have seen his sad face when he saw the blacked coolant reservoir.... he knew what that means.

I will get a loan car later today and then will see what happens. The workshop is closed for vacation next week, so will take some time.

eye30 · **Reply #51: July 22, 2016, 10:45:07**

So have they said what work they will do and cost if not covered

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diesel1984 · **Reply #52: July 22, 2016, 11:36:06**

Quote from: Asterix on July 22, 2016, 10:30:40

UPDATE.

Went to the dealer this morning and actually talked to the guy who did the repair prior to our vacation. You should have seen his sad face when he saw the blacked coolant reservoir.... he knew what that means.

I will get a loan car later today and then will see what happens. The workshop is closed for vacation next week, so will take some time.

This service.. they must stand behind their work so they will probably repair your car for free.

Probably head skimming and new head gasket. If you plan to keep your car for some time it will be good to check valve seating on pressure tester and rebuild if needed.
Also check timing chain for stretching and chain plastic guides for cracks. They are cheap to replace when head is off.

cleid · **Reply #53: July 23, 2016, 00:13:57**

So what is the suspected cause? Can someone break it down for a layman?

Dazzler · **Reply #54: July 23, 2016, 00:21:35**

Quote from: cleid on July 23, 2016, 00:13:57

So what is the suspected cause? Can someone break it down for a layman?

Asterix (Henning) who was a VW service tech in a previous life.. had at least 2 glow plugs which wouldn't budge when he tried to change them. Even his local service facility couldn't get them out. So, a second hand head was sourced and swapped over. Unfortunately something appears to have now gone wrong ( head gasket maybe?)

cleid · **Reply #55: July 23, 2016, 01:11:27**

Oh, I remember the glow plugs post. Just didn't connect the dots, thanks.

Asterix · **Reply #56: July 23, 2016, 07:30:24**

I don't think it's the gasket, but the head.
The problem occors when operating temperature is reached. This make me believe there's a crack in the head. The used head was machined and pressure tested, but of course that was done when cold. Even valve seats was machined. I think the workshop has done what most would do to ensure the used part was ok, but now they will have to claim the wrecker where they bought the head or it will be something for their insurace to cover. I don't care, I just don't expect to pay anything further...

Dazzler · **Reply #57: July 23, 2016, 08:32:58**

Fair enough Henning. Hope it gets resolved amicably..

eye30 · **Reply #58: July 23, 2016, 08:49:27**

You could always get a bike and join me in my ventures while you wait the repair

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Asterix · **Reply #59: July 23, 2016, 09:22:48**

Quote from: eye30 on July 23, 2016, 08:49:27

You could always get a bike and join me in my ventures while you wait the repair

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I have a very fine bike. It's the engine that's slow..