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FUEL ISSUES & ECONOMY => GENERAL => Topic started by: AlanHo on December 09, 2014, 09:03:06

Title: The End is Nigh for Diesel Cars
Post by: AlanHo on December 09, 2014, 09:03:06

:link: BBC News - Why is diesel now bad news? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-30381223)

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The Mayor of Paris Anne Hidalgo wants to ban diesel cars and the pollution they bring from the streets of the French capital. But not long ago, diesel engines were thought to be environmentally friendly. What could have gone wrong?

Title: Re: The End is Nigh for Diesel Cars
Post by: eye30 on December 09, 2014, 09:06:49

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MPs in the UK have mooted a scrappage scheme for diesel cars


http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/health-30349398

Title: Re: The End is Nigh for Diesel Cars
Post by: Doggie 1 on December 09, 2014, 09:49:09

Stupid ideas.  :rolleyes:
Diesel never get of the ground down under.
Yet.

Title: Re: The End is Nigh for Diesel Cars
Post by: The Gonz on December 09, 2014, 09:52:09

The Australian Defence Force under Project LAND121 is going all Diesel. :eek:

Title: Re: The End is Nigh for Diesel Cars
Post by: Phil №❶ on December 09, 2014, 09:57:51

As much as I like Diesel, it makes sense to clean up our planet, as long as the solution is Hydrogen and no particular nationality holds an unfair monopoly as is the case at present.

Title: Re: The End is Nigh for Diesel Cars
Post by: Johnno on December 10, 2014, 22:39:16

:link: Euro 6 emissions and diesel vehicles 2014 | RAC (http://www.rac.co.uk/community/blog/rac-blog/january-2012/euro-6-and-diesel-vehicles)

Title: Re: The End is Nigh for Diesel Cars
Post by: The Gonz on December 10, 2014, 22:54:50

Thanks, Johnno, first time I've stumbled across a description of AdBlue's purpose. :goodjob:

Title: Re: The End is Nigh for Diesel Cars
Post by: Johnno on December 10, 2014, 23:06:50

here's another all under one roof

I didn't know there is 36 different models of the i30 :Shocked:

:link: Hyundai I30 European Emission Standards (http://carleasingmadesimple.com/business-car-leasing/hyundai/i30/european-emission-standards/)

Title: Re: The End is Nigh for Diesel Cars
Post by: Johnno on April 30, 2015, 09:50:47

Looks like we're going the same way over here too. As soon as one nation decides to ban diesels the other's will follow suit in Europe who can't meet the required air pollution levels

What they should do first is have a scrappage scheme  for early models of Diesels and phase them off the roads first or have a higher taxation on new vehicles when first registered or even stop selling them all together. But the first thing I can see coming is higher road tax for Diesels  more pennies for the Treasury pot

:link: Diesel cars could be banished as Britain ordered to cut air pollution (http://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/diesel-cars-could-be-banished-as-britain-ordered-to-cut-air-pollution/ar-BBiU8yJ)

Title: Re: The End is Nigh for Diesel Cars
Post by: Phil №❶ on April 30, 2015, 10:34:30

Er, if Diesel is outlawed, and more petrol is consumed to move the current volume of goods (people / produce), how will there be any improvement in pollution levels ?

How long are the Brits going to be pushed around by a bunch of sprouts ?  :spitty:

Title: Re: The End is Nigh for Diesel Cars
Post by: beerman on April 30, 2015, 10:52:36

So if diesel cars are more expensive due to the DPF, and My car doesn't have one, why is it more expensive.

Title: Re: The End is Nigh for Diesel Cars
Post by: Phil №❶ on April 30, 2015, 11:00:30

To start with, a completely different engine compared to the petrol model, made from real steel.

Title: Re: The End is Nigh for Diesel Cars
Post by: AlanHo on April 30, 2015, 11:05:29

The difference between petrol and diesel cars is that petrol cars emit carbon dioxide and monoxide - which suffocates you gently - whereas diesel emits loads of nitrous oxides which are carcogenic and poison you to death.

Tek yer pick........... :snigger:


My vote is to suffocate everyone - it's kinder.

Title: Re: The End is Nigh for Diesel Cars
Post by: Johnno on April 30, 2015, 11:08:54

Someone will come up with a brained scheme, like the French did years ago like banning cars with odd numbers on their registration plate on certain days in Paris, and the same with people that had even numbers on thier plates,so what did the motorists do, go out and buy a second car so they had one car with even plates and the other with odd plates so they could drive into Paris everyday

:link: Paris orders drivers with even number plates off the road - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/10703698/Paris-orders-drivers-with-even-number-plates-off-the-road.html)

Title: Re: The End is Nigh for Diesel Cars
Post by: eye30 on April 30, 2015, 18:18:33

So who wins?..?.??

Car sales.............

Title: Re: The End is Nigh for Diesel Cars
Post by: Wingerdave on April 30, 2015, 23:05:16

The problem with the French (amoung other things) is that they were giving massive subsidies on diesel cars because they thought they were cleaner.

Then they get a couple of warm summers, not much wind and because Paris is in a dip all the particulates and gases just hung over the city.
Basically, they shot themselves in the foot. Gotta just love politicians, so clueless but they have the power to create massive f#%k-ups.

Title: Re: The End is Nigh for Diesel Cars
Post by: Johnno on April 30, 2015, 23:13:09

Yep, the French always good at sort things out by handing subsidies

Title: Re: The End is Nigh for Diesel Cars
Post by: Lakes on May 01, 2015, 02:49:41

you can run diesel's on LPG that is less polluting than unlead also LPG does not finance terror groups.
LPG is also halp the price of unleaded E10.