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MODIFYING OR DETAILING YOUR I30 => TYRES | WHEELS | BRAKES => Topic started by: Lester on September 08, 2013, 08:00:36
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OK comrades, so when my Hankook tyres need replacing on the i30, can anybody recommend a quieter tyre, considerable road noise with ye old Hankooks. :whistler:
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OK comrades, so when my Hankook tyres need replacing on the i30, can anybody recommend a quieter tyre, considerable road noise with ye old Hankooks. :whistler:
What size do you have, Lester?
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There is a quiet continental that Alan has used and I think Rusty used similar (hopefully they will post a link to their threads) :goodjob:
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Continental Premium Contact 2
https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=6874.0 (https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=6874.0)
Can't put my finger on Alan's post just now.
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No,,,,, don't go there, Phil. :snigger:
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No,,,,, don't go there, Phil. :snigger:
:disapp: :whistler:
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Yes, the Continentals are the one.
Alan's research shows the 2's are the quietest but my tyre shop says the 5's are a very good tyre too.
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No,,,,, don't go there, Phil. :snigger:
Chicken :lol:,I WILL :twisted:,bugger me(Oh! Shouldn't say that,it might happen)surferdude didn't think you were that way inclinded :rofl:
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :goodjob2:
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No,,,,, don't go there, Phil. :snigger:
Chicken :lol:,I WILL :twisted:,bugger me(Oh! Shouldn't say that,it might happen)surferdude didn't think you were that way inclinded :rofl:
Bloody hell.
Alan's post.
Rick's member.
UM's erlection.
There's a scary trend developing here. :scared:
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I'm happy to recommend Continental's Comfort Contact 5's, Lester.....They are noticeably quieter and I find they grip well in the wet.... :goodjob:
http://www.continental-tyres.com.au/www/tyres_au_en/themes/car-tyres/compact-class-tyres/comfort-contact-5.html (http://www.continental-tyres.com.au/www/tyres_au_en/themes/car-tyres/compact-class-tyres/comfort-contact-5.html)
Dave got to drive my car recently so perhaps he can give you some feedback too..... :undecided:
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Continental Comfort Compact tyres do not seem to be available in the UK.
The news from Continental about noise reducing tyres is this...
http://www.continental-tires.com/www/tires_de_en/themes/car-tires/contisilent.html (http://www.continental-tires.com/www/tires_de_en/themes/car-tires/contisilent.html)
It seems that these revolutionary tyres are currently only available with some new Audi vehicles. I guess they will find their way onto the replacement market eventually. I am very interested in getting these ASAP.
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OK comrades, so when my Hankook tyres need replacing on the i30, can anybody recommend a quieter tyre, considerable road noise with ye old Hankooks. :whistler:
What size do you have, Lester?
16 inch - the gunmetal alloys, peculiar to the i30 Trophy. :D
And thanks to all for the replies. ;)
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I went shopping for Continentals last week. I would not fit Kumhos again as the original kumho tyres were that noisy and rough I could not hear the navigator (wife) speaking. When I mentioned this to the local Kumho dealer he said he had four only Bridgestone Euro100 @ $130 each, drive away. I had read here on another post that Bridgestone Euro100 were good tyres and quite. I had four fitted and they are that quite I can now hear every word the navigator says. Have I erred?
In other respects they are far better riding than the original Kumhos, real quite and I hope will return more than 37,500k. Does anyone suggest any particular brand of earmuffs?
I have only done 800K to date.
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Does anyone suggest any particular brand of earmuffs?
Kumho
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Hi friend,
Me, but my i30 too, recommend the Yokohama tyres, don't know if available in your country but, very silent with a excellent grip and long life too.
I use the 205/55/16 w91 on my i30 for summer and Vredestein for winter :goodjob2:
About $154 (116 €) by tyre (Yokohama and Vredestein) here in Belgium, perhaps less cost if i search in others shop
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I have Goodyear Efficient Grip Performance tyres on mine and I'm very pleased with them; quiet, grippy in wet and dry and slightly better fuel consumption. Worth a look if you can find them.
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I have Goodyear Efficient Grip Performance tyres on mine and I'm very pleased with them; quiet, grippy in wet and dry and slightly better fuel consumption. Worth a look if you can find them.
I've already this, yes very good and not to bad, as like you said, yes.
But Yokohama, for me, because testing it, are more better, you can trust me :winker:
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I have Goodyear Efficient Grip Performance tyres on mine and I'm very pleased with them; quiet, grippy in wet and dry and slightly better fuel consumption. Worth a look if you can find them.
The Efficient Grip is available in Oz. As are the Yokos,
Both very quiet but Yokos generally wear more quickly.
We have some limos using the Efficient Grip.
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Having read - indeed studied - just about every crumb of information I can find about tyre generated cabin noise I have come to the conclusion that with conventional tyre design and materials you have to pay a price in other parameters to reduce tyre noise.
If you seek responsive handling in a car - then the tyre walls need to be relatively stiff. Low profile tyres achieve this simply by being low profile with short wall height. However - stiff side walls transmit noise generated in the tread far more than more pliable walls. Hence it is generally true that tyres that handle well tend to be noisier than those that don't. Also - the tread pattern for achieving optimum grip runs contrary to that which would produce the least noise.
If your mission is tyre life - then you will be looking at tyres with a relatively hard tread compound. The side effects of this are usually less grip and more noise.
If you seek good grip in wet conditions then the tyre compounds tend to be softer and the tread pattern is designed to channel water away quickly. The softer compound will wear more quickly and the water channels will generate more noise. Attempts to increase tread life by the use of more exotic materials in the compound will significantly impact tyre cost.
Hence the mission to produce a truly quiet tyre is fraught with compromises in terms of handling, grip (especially wet grip), tyre life and cost.
This is why I am very keen to discover whether Continental have truly made a break through with their new technology which includes adding a layer of special foam inside the tyre. It is the first development I am aware of where a manufacturer has moved away from simply fiddling with all the other parameters I have mentioned and moved into new uncharted territory.
I have written to Continental today on the topic - if I get an interesting reply I will let you know.
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I highly recommend Bridgestone GR90. I had a similar issue with a Peugeot 307. It also has a firm ride as per i30 and with tyre noise. I changed from OEM continentals to the GR90s and made a massive difference. The noise was significantly reduced and the softer tyre wall also improved the ride quality. I'm also waiting for my Hankooks to wear out
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Alan, I'm sure you can convince them to give you 4 brand new tyres so you can act as test pilot..
:happydance: :snigger:
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Alan, I'm sure you can convince them to give you 4 brand new tyres so you can act as test pilot..
:happydance: :snigger:
I might write to them to, just in case they want testers. :)
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Bit off topic, but going back a while, when most of us did not have money, raising kids, paying mortgages, we had to buy re tread tyres for ye olde family jalopy, well I did. Anybody remember that? :Shocked:
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Bit off topic, but going back a while, when most of us did not have money, raising kids, paying mortgages, we had to buy re tread tyres for ye olde family jalopy, well I did. Anybody remember that? :Shocked:
I actually ran my rally car on retreads for a couple of years.
175R13 on the front and 185/70R13 on the rear. Made in a Pirelli wintertread pattern by a guy on the Redcliffe peninsular. Was always competitive at state level and never had a failure.
The key was to pick very carefully the casings used to retread.
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I'm happy to recommend Continental's Comfort Contact 5's, Lester.....They are noticeably quieter and I find they grip well in the wet.... :goodjob:
http://www.continental-tyres.com.au/www/tyres_au_en/themes/car-tyres/compact-class-tyres/comfort-contact-5.html (http://www.continental-tyres.com.au/www/tyres_au_en/themes/car-tyres/compact-class-tyres/comfort-contact-5.html)
Dave got to drive my car recently so perhaps he can give you some feedback too..... :undecided:
I did indeed drive Rusty's car and the tyres are definitely noticeably quieter than the Kumhos on my previous car and Nexens on my current one.
One proviso though is I don't know how coarse bitumen in WA compares to coarse bitumen in Victoria.
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I have received a reply from Continental UK as follows..
Thank you for taking the time to write.
I understand that for some cabin noise can be a significant problem. The new Euro tyre labelling can provide some information but as this is an external noise test it does not give a direct indication of cabin noise and sometimes it is as much about the frequencies as it is the noise level.
One consideration for you is therefore the tyre size and profile because a lower profile wider tyre will always be noisier than a narrower higher profile tyre, but I understand you already have the tyre size determined on your vehicle.
The new contiSilent is only available in a few sizes because it was developed primarily for the requirements of one specific vehicle manufacturer and unfortunately is not available in the 215/55 R16.
Of our tyres I would advise looking at the ContiEcoContact5 as this will probably be the quietest although our PremiumContact5 will be pretty close.
Regards
Mr. Gwyn Fennell
Technical Service Manager UK & Ireland
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At least they replied!
Not like a certain other company.......who shall remain nameless.........
They gave a balance opinion so one can make an informed choice.......
Thanks Alan....
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:whsaid: :ta:
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The contact5 is what my tyre guy recommended.
I find that my tyres are at their quietest when completely stationary.
Is this normal? :undecided:
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The contact5 is what my tyre guy recommended.
I find that my tyres are at their quietest when completely stationary.
Is this normal? :undecided:
Yes Dave.
As long as you engine isn't running either. :p
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That helps a lot. :)
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The contact5 is what my tyre guy recommended.
I find that my tyres are at their quietest when completely stationary.
Is this normal? :undecided:
:whistler: :whistler: :disapp:
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I recently wrote to Continental, Pirelli, Michelin, Bridgestone, Goodyear, Firestone, Avon and Dunlop as follows...
I suffer from hearing loss and have to use hearing aids. Even with my aids I have difficulty holding a conversation with passengers in my car when driving on rough tarmac or concrete surfaces. The only road surface I find OK is the quiet tarmac now being used to resurface main roads and motorways.
I have owned three new Hyundai i30 diesel cars over the past 4 years as follows.
2010 Hyundai i30 1.6 CRDi Style hatchback.
This car was delivered with Hankook Optimo K415 225-45-R17 tyres which proved to be so noisy that after just three months I had all 4 wheels changed to Yokohama AVS DB V550 tyres. Comparative tests with a decibel meter indicated that cabin noise was reduced by up to 4 dB on rough surfaces. An improvement but cabin noise remained a problem
2012 Hyundai i30 1.6 CRDi Style hatchback.
Before taking delivery of this car I arranged for the dealer to swap the original 205-55-R16 Hankook tyres for Continental Premium Contact 2. The car proved to be on average about 2 dB quieter than the previous car on Yokohamas.
2013 Hyundai i30 1.6 CRDi Style Tourer
I have had this car for 3 months which came fitted with Hankook Ventus Prime 2
205-55-R16 tyres. Cabin noise is again a significant problem and I am looking to change the tyres ASAP.
I would appreciate your advice regarding the tyres you would recommend which would result in a significant reduction in cabin noise in my new car
I have already posted the response from Continental and have now received some other replies as follows..
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Michelin
Thank you for your enquiry about tyres for your Hyundai.
Our quietest tyre which is renowned for its comfort is the Primacy tyre.
In the 205/55 R16 the options are:
Primacy HP
91H
91V
Primacy 3
91V
91W
Please contact your tyre supplier for availability.
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Pirelli
Good morning,
Thank you for your email.
Unfortunately we do not make original equipment for the Hyundai in the size's that you require, therefore I can't recommend a tyre that will be suitable for your needs.
This is because we have never tried and tested any of our tyres on your vehicle and can't comment on how they will perform.
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Not very informative is it?
Furthermore, I have read a couple of independent tyre tests where the Michelin Primacy scored badly on tyre noise compared with other premium brands but scored high on wear and handling.
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Two more replies to my enquiries
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Goodyear
Thank you for your email,
The quietest tyres we market in this size are :-
* 205/55R16 91V EFFICIENTGRIP TO
* 205/55R16 91V EFFICIENTGRIP FP FI
which both have an outside noise readings of 67 dB on their labels.
However this is external noise, a tyre can from time to time have harmonics that can increase cabin noise as they react with the vehicle harmonics and give a different reading within the cabin.
Regards
David Mullin
Technical Customer Support & Service
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Yokohama
Good Morning,
Thank you very much for your enquiry regarding tyres for your Hyundai i30.
The best tyre I could offer you in terms of dB level is the Yokohama BluEarth AE01.
However, looking at the new EU label information your Hankook tyre has a pass-by noise level of 69db and that is exactly the same as our BluEarth tyre.
It is a pass-by noise as opposed to cabin noise so it is difficult to say if you would notice any significant change in the cabin as we have not done any back to back comparisons with these tyres.
Sorry I could not be of more help as this must be a very difficult decision and 'trial and error' isn't the cheapest option when choosing tyres!
Regards,
Russell Barratt
Yokohama HPT Ltd
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Response received from Dunlop.
I was phoned yesterday by the UK technical manager for Dunlop and we had a 20 minute conversation about tyre noise. He confirmed that tyre generated cabin noise is a complex subject and it is not possible to predict noise levels for each car. A given tyre can be noisy in one model and quiet in another dependent on how a particular combination of suspension components, body shell etc reacts to different sound frequencies and harmonics. He also confirmed that the Euro external noise labelling is only a crude guide to how noisy a given tyre will be in the cabin.
For a tyre manufacturer to give an accurate indication of the cabin noise for each of their tyres in various models - they would have to carry out a proper test of each car brand and model with each of their tyres - which is just not practical for obvious reasons. He cited a current project where a premium car manufacturer set tyre manufacturers the task of achieving maximum cabin noise levels for a new model of 70 dB at set frequencies on a specific test track in order for their tyres to be an original fit. To do this the major tyre manufacturers are having to design tyres for that specific car - but there is no guarantee that these tyres would be as quiet in other models or brands.
He concluded by advising that the Dunlop Sport BluResponse and Goodyear Efficient Grip Performance tyres are probably the best choices from the Dunlop Goodyear range. The Dunlop version has either won or been rated highly in several European independent tyre tests for low noise, low rolling resistance and exceptional wet grip and braking performance. He added that most independent tests were conducted using Europe's favourite cars - such as the VW Golf or Ford Focus. Hence their findings may not be replicated in another model like the Hyundai i30.
A subjective guide is that where the new BluResponse tyres have been fitted to cars in the company fleet - drivers have noticed improved cabin noise levels.
So after another round of research I have decided to fit my car with the new Dunlop BluResponse tyres. But first I will conduct some noise tests with the present Hankook tyres for comparison.
Watch this space - I have my fingers crossed.
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Very good information Alan, thanks for publishing it. :D
Road surface has a lot to do with tyre noise too. In Australia we have a lot of concrete surface roads with the expansion strips/gaps due to our extreme temperatures, they are not nice to drive on. Concrete roads have a life span of some 50 years so that form of construction is attractive to authorities. Some of our 110 km/h freeways, like the Hume Fwy, Sydney-Melbourne have a lot of concrete sections. :Shocked:
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Very good information Alan, thanks for publishing it. :D
Road surface has a lot to do with tyre noise too. In Australia we have a lot of concrete surface roads with the expansion strips/gaps due to our extreme temperatures, they are not nice to drive on. Concrete roads have a life span of some 50 years so that form of construction is attractive to authorities. Some of our 110 km/h freeways, like the Hume Fwy, Sydney-Melbourne have a lot of concrete sections. :Shocked:
And extensve testing of truck tyres on the Hume Highway indicates at least 10% WORSE wear on that higway (due to all the concrete) than on other highways.
So, as with everything to do with tyres (and cars), it's all about compromise.
Concrete roads, as you say, last much, much longer with minimal maintenance, but the trade off is all those extra barrells of oil used to make up the extra 10% of lost tyre life.
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:ta: Alan :brilliant: as usual...
Just as a side note my Hybrid comes with Michelin Primacy LC 215/60 R16 95V as standard and it is one of the quietest cars on the road under $100,000.
But obviously the tyres can only take part of the credit for that :cool:
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Very good information Alan, thanks for publishing it. :D
Road surface has a lot to do with tyre noise too. In Australia we have a lot of concrete surface roads with the expansion strips/gaps due to our extreme temperatures, they are not nice to drive on. Concrete roads have a life span of some 50 years so that form of construction is attractive to authorities. Some of our 110 km/h freeways, like the Hume Fwy, Sydney-Melbourne have a lot of concrete sections. :Shocked:
And extensve testing of truck tyres on the Hume Highway indicates at least 10% WORSE wear on that higway (due to all the concrete) than on other highways.
So, as with everything to do with tyres (and cars), it's all about compromise.
Concrete roads, as you say, last much, much longer with minimal maintenance, but the trade off is all those extra barrells of oil used to make up the extra 10% of lost tyre life.
I suspected as much, I do Brisbane to Gold Coast Commute, and my tyre ware is ok without being brilliant, considering the long straight runs....
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Nice of them to contact you direct and speak with you. :goodjob2:
Thanks Alan for your research as it benefits all members of the forum. :goodjob2:
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:ta: Alan :brilliant: as usual...
Just as a side note my Hybrid comes with Michelin Primacy LC 215/60 R16 95V as standard and it is one of the quietest cars on the road under $100,000.
But obviously the tyres can only take part of the credit for that :cool:
I cannot find a source for that Michelin Tyre in the UK. It seems to have been superceded by the name "Energy Saver" which appears to have the same tread pattern as your tyre.
The Euro labelling for the Energy Saver tyre is :-
C for energy saving (on a scale A (best) to G).
B for wet grip (on a scale A (best) to G).
70dB for road noise. (External noise on drive-by)
The Dunlop tyre has Euro labelling of B, A and 68dB respectively.
If these figures are to be believed the Dunlop tyre would have almost half the noise compared with the Michelin (a 3dB change in noise level equals half/double the perceived noise) with better energy saving and better wet grip.
I dooon'ttt beliiieeeve iiittt.
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70dB is 158% as much as 68dB. :goodjob:
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So what's db08? :undecided:
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A pain in the arse! :snigger:
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dBs are a wonderful system.
Assuming we're talking power (I hear db08 likes to be considered powerful), if db08 were 8 dB, then he would be 10 dB - 2 dB, which is 10 times what he was before being db08 and 63% of that, so db08 might be considered:
6.3 times as powerful as before he became db08. :head_butt:
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:faint: :wnhelp:
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I cannot find a source for that Michelin Tyre in the UK. It seems to have been superceded by the name "Energy Saver" which appears to have the same tread pattern as your tyre.
The Euro labelling for the Energy Saver tyre is :-
C for energy saving (on a scale A (best) to G).
B for wet grip (on a scale A (best) to G).
70dB for road noise. (External noise on drive-by)
The Dunlop tyre has Euro labelling of B, A and 68dB respectively.
If these figures are to be believed the Dunlop tyre would have almost half the noise compared with the Michelin (a 3dB change in noise level equals half/double the perceived noise) with better energy saving and better wet grip.
I dooon'ttt beliiieeeve iiittt.
I am half way to wearing the Michelins out.. I hope I can find this thread when it is time to replace them late next year... :happydance:
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Yay for the "bookmark" function ;)
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Yay for the "bookmark" function ;)
Good point :lol: :-[ done!
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A pain in the arse! :snigger:
Again, you said you wouldn't tell. :snigger:
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I didn't say how big..... :P
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I cannot find a source for that Michelin Tyre in the UK. It seems to have been superceded by the name "Energy Saver" which appears to have the same tread pattern as your tyre.
The Euro labelling for the Energy Saver tyre is :-
C for energy saving (on a scale A (best) to G).
B for wet grip (on a scale A (best) to G).
70dB for road noise. (External noise on drive-by)
The Dunlop tyre has Euro labelling of B, A and 68dB respectively.
If these figures are to be believed the Dunlop tyre would have almost half the noise compared with the Michelin (a 3dB change in noise level equals half/double the perceived noise) with better energy saving and better wet grip.
I dooon'ttt beliiieeeve iiittt.
I am half way to wearing the Michelins out.. I hope I can find this thread when it is time to replace them late next year... :happydance:
Don't you generally change your car before you need to change the tyres? :whistler:
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I will try and keep this one for around 4 years ... have made noises about upgrading Trish's CW maybe next year, but will have to be something special to get her out of it....
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i know its a bit late but as anyone got a link for these tyres? in england.
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Sorry if I'm adding to the wrong thread...(but there are at least 2 threads on quiet tyres)
I have a slow puncture in a HanKook (6 month old UK I30 petrol active) and so, rather than pump up before every trip (loses upto 8psi a day) I will replace this now and the rest later.
My tyre size 195/65 R15 H (91)
Options appear to be:-
"Continental Premium Contact 2"
"Continental Premium Contact 5"
"Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance"
All available through this very useful site (UK!) :link: Blackcircles.com - Online Tyres, Click & Fit today! (http://www.blackcircles.com/)
Any other suggestions? Cheers.
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Could you get it repaired? I had a slow leak in one of my tyres on my 4wd, I had it repaired for about $20 AUD. That way you keep the same tread pattern on all four corners.
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Took it to a tyre place and they said couldn't find the leak. Yep, may be worth trying another. thanks.
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Took it to a tyre place and they said couldn't find the leak. ..
I'll bet they didn't dump-check the valve ;)
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Took it to a tyre place and they said couldn't find the leak. Yep, may be worth trying another. thanks.
Wonder they didn't just whack a tube in it then.. Yeah, like Fatboy said, not a good idea to mix tread patterns... :undecided:
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Anyone tried the Yokohama BluEarth AE-01 tyres yet?
My OEM Hankooks are at 32,000klm and just about ready for retirement to the excessively noisy tyre graveyard.
I'm obviously looking for a quieter tyre with reasonable tyre life, and our local tyre guy recommends the Yokohamas. It would be great to hear from someone actually using these tyres on the 'older' model i30.
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Yokohama Tyres every time! excellent tyres that last
I have DB decibal Tyres from Yokohama on my Elantra and have put 100,000km on them and they are still in good nic. - These were pricy but worth every cent! I think I paid 800 for 195/15/60
The i30 has Yokohama C-Drive 2 which seem to be holding up just as well and are pretty quite with plenty of grip were around 650 for 205/16/55
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I reckon my four Michelins are pretty quiet - a hell of a lot quieter than the Hero Atlanta's that the i30 came with when I bought it used.
That said, the Centenary Highway approaching Springfield lakes makes the car sound like it's driving on bare rims!! What a horrible road surface that is.
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Ha! We are 'neighbours' Everyman! I drive the "Centenary Highway approaching Springfield lakes" area as well. That will be a true test of new tyres.
Hmm. Nobody got the Yokohama BluEarth AE-01 tyres so they can supply a review/opinion?
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Nice to meet you. :cool: I don't live there. My brother lives in Springfield Lakes.
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Is it not true that tyres with the same designation may vary in tread compound according to the market intended? Even within Europe there are variations for the northern and southern regions. Comparing Australian market tyres with the European equivalent may give misleading results.
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I believe so. Same brand tyres made in different continents, are not necessarily the same standard of tyre.
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I reckon my four Michelins are pretty quiet - a hell of a lot quieter than the Hero Atlanta's that the i30 came with when I bought it used.
That said, the Centenary Highway approaching Springfield lakes makes the car sound like it's driving on bare rims!! What a horrible road surface that is.
Are your Michelins, the Primacy LC? :p
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Well... I have had a set of the Yokohama BluEarth AE-01 tyres for around two weeks and dislike them. A lot.
They are as noisy (and sometimes noisier!) as the original Hankooks! From all the reports I have read, ANY tyre should be quieter than the standard tyres. Weird.
The BluEarths seem super-sensitive to changing road surfaces whereby the Hankooks were constantly loud. The BluEarths were horrid on the M1 to the Gold Coast (a notoriously noisy concrete surface in large patches) and developed a weird harmonic hum on top of the tyre noise. Around town you could close your eyes (not recommended...) and know exactly what surface you are driving on. They also sent a larger noise over bumps. I was running the recommended 36psi.
From all the specs - and with the original tyres notoriety for noise - the BlueEarths should have been quieter. Other than that deal-breaker, they certainly handle very, very well.
Anyway, our local Bob Jane dealership agreed to take them back next week and swap for a set of C-Drives, which I think is more than fair. I feel bad having to return the tyres, and the Yokohama rep is perplexed, so I am very keen and curious to see if anyone else has the same comments on a tyre specifically recommended for the i30.
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Thanks Bitsumishi, interesting info (not good)
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Taking the wife's car with its new Toyos for a drive on the M1 tomorrow.
I am interested to see how they go.
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hi everyone,
I would like to add another tyre to see if anyone has any experience with them. I'm thinking of getting Bridgestone "Serenity Plus" tyres for my Elite ie 205/55/R16. Supposed to be excellent for noise and smooth ride with relatively good mileage. Got a quote for $400 for 4 tyres, fitted and balanced. Getting quite sick of the OEM tyres on Sydney roads.
I'm thinking of sticking with Bridgestone, as a few years ago, I bought some GR90s (predecessors to Serenity) for another car and loved them for smoothness and noise suppression.
Has anyone used these?
Also, what do I do with existing tyres which still look like new after 28k
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You could try and sell the tyres on Gumtree or similar but I wouldn't expect to get much for them, 28k is probably half their life used so maybe ask for $20 each :undecided:
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I have just had a set of Federal FD02's fitted and they are very quiet, drove in the wet the other night and they felt good. So far I would recommend them :goodjob:
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I have just had a set of Federal FD02's fitted and they are very quiet, drove in the wet the other night and they felt good. So far I would recommend them :goodjob:
Thanks for that, but I have never heard of that brand. Were they well priced?
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I have just had a set of Federal FD02's fitted and they are very quiet, drove in the wet the other night and they felt good. So far I would recommend them :goodjob:
Thanks for that, but I have never heard of that brand. Were they well priced?
Federals have been around for years.
They seem OK.
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I have just had a set of Federal FD02's fitted and they are very quiet, drove in the wet the other night and they felt good. So far I would recommend them :goodjob:
Thanks for that, but I have never heard of that brand. Were they well priced?
:link: Federal Formoza FD2 | Comfort & Performance | Luxury Passenger Car Tyre (http://www.federaltyres.com.au/tyres/passenger/formoza-fd2)
$480 fitted
They actually have silence written on the sidewall :mrgreen:
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Can anyone advise how the Continental Comfort C5's would compare? A JAX tyres franchise is quoting $375 fitted for 4 tyres in 205/55/R16?
Does anyone know how these compare to Michelin Primacy 3 ST or Yokohama ADVAN dbV551?
Really confused!!
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Can anyone advise how the Continental Comfort C5's would compare? A JAX tyres franchise is quoting $375 fitted for 4 tyres in 205/55/R16?
Does anyone know how these compare to Michelin Primacy 3 ST or Yokohama ADVAN dbV551?
Really confused!!
That's a pretty good price. I'd be grabbing them. I guess it's a 443 deal.
But don't waste your money paying extra for nitrogen.
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Can anyone advise how the Continental Comfort C5's would compare? A JAX tyres franchise is quoting $375 fitted for 4 tyres in 205/55/R16?
Does anyone know how these compare to Michelin Primacy 3 ST or Yokohama ADVAN dbV551?
Really confused!!
That's a pretty good price. I'd be grabbing them. I guess it's a 443 deal.
But don't waste your money paying extra for nitrogen.
Sounds good, problem is that I don't need new tyres because the ones I have are fine. What I am really looking for is quiet tyres and didn't know how good they vs (according to Whirpool) the best of the quiet ones: Michelin Primacy 3 ST & Yokohama ADVAN dbV551.
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Those Yokies look good, they've got excellent reviews for quietness - stability - low rolling resistance - fuel saving and longevity being a silica tyre and apparently they're 9% lighter than other tyres ( adds to the fuel saving :) ) their not cheap though.
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Forgot to update after taking the Wife's car down the M1,
The tyres are quiet on the black stuff, but still have a bit of noise on the concrete, but are quieter.
Wife is happy with them too....
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This is why I am very keen to discover whether Continental have truly made a break through with their new technology which includes adding a layer of special foam inside the tyre.
I would be keen to know as well considering the silent tyres on their site are from the fitting availability on Audi RS cars. Considering these are outrageously powerful I would love to know if they have managed to pull it off.
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There are quite a few tyres listed in the thread, so I'll add some more.
In Australia,
Ruby had 4 new tyres fitted a few days ago and my 1st chance to drive, was today 100km.
They are markedly quieter than the Hankooks, no db meter, unfortunately and very nice feel on the road. We have opted for the 50k guarantee offered with these tyres as I have been very disappointed with tyre performance, so far.
The deal was arranged by Marzipan, I had nothing to do with it.
The tyres are Bridgestone Turanza Serenity Plus 205/55R/16 91H
Hope your sitting down,
Wheel align, disposal tyres etc. $665 :whistler: :faint:
Initial impressions ae that they roll with less resistance and the l/100 dropped by .1 lt. The last fuel figure wasn't cleared and reset properly (Marzipan), so this is actually more significant than first appears.
We are hoping to recoup the extra cost in fuel consumption reduction over the life of the tyres.
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There are quite a few tyres listed in the thread, so I'll add some more.
In Australia,
Ruby had 4 new tyres fitted a few days ago and my 1st chance to drive, was today 100km.
They are markedly quieter than the Hankooks, no db meter, unfortunately and very nice feel on the road. We have opted for the 50k guarantee offered with these tyres as I have been very disappointed with tyre performance, so far.
The deal was arranged by Marzipan, I had nothing to do with it.
The tyres are Bridgestone Turanza Serenity Plus 205/55R/16 91H
Hope your sitting down,
Wheel align, disposal tyres etc. $665 :whistler: :faint:
Initial impressions ae that they roll with less resistance and the l/100 dropped by .1 lt. The last fuel figure wasn't cleared and reset properly (Marzipan), so this is actually more significant than first appears.
We are hoping to recoup the extra cost in fuel consumption reduction over the life of the tyres.
Hey Phil, I just had 4 x Bridgestone Turanza Serenity plus fitted today. I paid $400 even (fitted and balanced).
Honestly, I'm still not 100% sure that there is a significant improvement in noise. I think the frequency may have changed but that's about it. Coarse chip road surface noise does not seem to improve. However, I did notice an unusual harmonic hum at around 90km/h coming from what seems to be the tyre tread at that speed. I can't tell whether this sound was always there from the Hankooks and is only noticeable from the "different" quiet from these Turanza's??
The installer recommended 36PSI otherwise the front tyres will not stay "vertical" during hard turns and roundabouts and will wear quicker at 32psi..... is this true??
Interested to know your further comments on these tyres.
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$400, that makes me feel good. :fum:
I believe we're running 36, too. Compared to the existing tyres, if they stay this quiet, I'll be very happy, but NOT about the price, ever.
Still, it isn't my car so too bad, I guess. :undecided: :blubber:
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Pidim, 36psi is a good recommendation. The installer's explanation is pretty much spot on. (In layman's terms).
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Just to clarify, your installer is recommending 36 as a minimum. Higher is ok but lower is against what he's warning. :victory:
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Just to clarify, your installer is recommending 36 as a minimum. Higher is ok but lower is against what he's warning. :victory:
Yes, he was not recommending lower than 36psi and even wrote it in the documents for the regular free tyre rotation biz that guarantees 50,000km... kind of implying that lower than 36psi would void the 50k guarantee?
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Hey Phil, I just had 4 x Bridgestone Turanza Serenity plus fitted today. I paid $400 even (fitted and balanced).
Honestly, I'm still not 100% sure that there is a significant improvement in noise. I think the frequency may have changed but that's about it. Coarse chip road surface noise does not seem to improve. However, I did notice an unusual harmonic hum at around 90km/h coming from what seems to be the tyre tread at that speed. I can't tell whether this sound was always there from the Hankooks and is only noticeable from the "different" quiet from these Turanza's??
Interesting… Pidim’s observations (post #85) mirror mine.
After my complaint about the bloody noisy new tyres, Bob Jane TMart replaced my Yokohama BluEarth AE-01 tyres with a set of Yokohama C-Drives on Saturday. Like Pidim I am experiencing a slight harmonic hum (happened on the BlueEarths as well) so just wonder if the Hankooks hid the noise with their inherent loudness.
I never expected the tyres to be ’silent’ but they still aren’t great - definitely quieter than the BluEarths but still ’sensitive’ noise-wise to changing road conditions. The reality is the i30 lacks decent sound proofing…
However, if I thought the BlueEarths had better grip than the Hankooks (which weren’t bad at all) then the C-Drive tyres are another level of grip. Excellent!
Interestingly over bumps there is a more solid sound. The BlueEarths sounded like they had ’thin’ sides - like hitting a thin balloon as opposed to a thick balloon - silly I know, but the only way I can describe it.
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Hey Phil, I just had 4 x Bridgestone Turanza Serenity plus fitted today. I paid $400 even (fitted and balanced).
Honestly, I'm still not 100% sure that there is a significant improvement in noise. I think the frequency may have changed but that's about it. Coarse chip road surface noise does not seem to improve. However, I did notice an unusual harmonic hum at around 90km/h coming from what seems to be the tyre tread at that speed. I can't tell whether this sound was always there from the Hankooks and is only noticeable from the "different" quiet from these Turanza's??
Interesting… Pidim’s observations (post #85) mirror mine.
After my complaint about the bloody noisy new tyres, Bob Jane TMart replaced my Yokohama BluEarth AE-01 tyres with a set of Yokohama C-Drives on Saturday. Like Pidim I am experiencing a slight harmonic hum (happened on the BlueEarths as well) so just wonder if the Hankooks hid the noise with their inherent loudness.
I never expected the tyres to be ’silent’ but they still aren’t great - definitely quieter than the BluEarths but still ’sensitive’ noise-wise to changing road conditions. The reality is the i30 lacks decent sound proofing…
However, if I thought the BlueEarths had better grip than the Hankooks (which weren’t bad at all) then the C-Drive tyres are another level of grip. Excellent!
Interestingly over bumps there is a more solid sound. The BlueEarths sounded like they had ’thin’ sides - like hitting a thin balloon as opposed to a thick balloon - silly I know, but the only way I can describe it.
One thing for sure.. the grip and understeer of the old Hankooks were terrible. What a difference I noticed today as I took on my normal 30km drive to work and the familiarity of the roads finally sunk in that these tyres are definitely quieter and less jarring on uneven road expansion joins but the improvement in steering is certainly a welcome change. I'm really enjoying these tyres more and more.
I don't think sound proofing is the issue in the i30's tyre noise but more to do with engineering design of the suspension etc. Mazda engineers in Japan made a similar comment regarding the new Mazda 3 a few weeks ago and admitted that they need to do more work in this area.
The i30 is certainly a quiet car in almost every other way, so sound proofing is not the issue in my opinion. I have driven the new Mazda 3 and tyre noise is slightly better than the i30, however, engine noise is much worse.
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Hey Pidim, from your avatar it looks like we have different models - I have the 'old' model, and believe me, it needs better under-body sound proofing!
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Hey Pidim, from your avatar it looks like we have different models - I have the 'old' model, and believe me, it needs better under-body sound proofing!
Yes, definitely more soundproofing in the GD! :goodjob:
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hey @bitsumishi & @dazzler, I can't speak for the old model but GD is definitely well sound proofed vs other cars I test drove back when I puchased, however, I think that tyre noise is an 'engineering' issue based on Mazda comments and could also apply to GD series.
:link: Mazda finds fix for noisy Achilles heel (http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/mazda-finds-fix-for-noisy-achilles-heel-20140609-zs1fa.html)
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hey @bitsumishi & @dazzler, I can't speak for the old model but GD is definitely well sound proofed vs other cars I test drove back when I puchased, however, I think that tyre noise is an 'engineering' issue based on Mazda comments and could also apply to GD series.
:link: Mazda finds fix for noisy Achilles heel (http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/mazda-finds-fix-for-noisy-achilles-heel-20140609-zs1fa.html)
Interesting link thanks.. a lot of factors come into it...
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@dazzle - yes definitely more involved that just thicker carpet or other insulation. Golf reviews indicate that their tyre noise and ride is exceptional and certainly the benchmark in the segment. Today I parked next to a Golf 7 and noticed the tyres were Hankooks with a similar tread to what I just got rid of.
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@dazzle - yes definitely more involved that just thicker carpet or other insulation. Golf reviews indicate that their tyre noise and ride is exceptional and certainly the benchmark in the segment. Today I parked next to a Golf 7 and noticed the tyres were Hankooks with a similar tread to what I just got rid of.
That's interesting. I hope to find a quieter tyre for my Calais when the Bridgestone Turanzas wear out but that is perhaps 2 years away LOL
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@dazzle - yes definitely more involved that just thicker carpet or other insulation. Golf reviews indicate that their tyre noise and ride is exceptional and certainly the benchmark in the segment. Today I parked next to a Golf 7 and noticed the tyres were Hankooks with a similar tread to what I just got rid of.
That's interesting. I hope to find a quieter tyre for my Calais when the Bridgestone Turanzas wear out but that is perhaps 2 years away LOL
I thought your solution to tyres wearing out was to change cars :evil:
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :goodjob2:
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@dazzle - yes definitely more involved that just thicker carpet or other insulation. Golf reviews indicate that their tyre noise and ride is exceptional and certainly the benchmark in the segment. Today I parked next to a Golf 7 and noticed the tyres were Hankooks with a similar tread to what I just got rid of.
That's interesting. I hope to find a quieter tyre for my Calais when the Bridgestone Turanzas wear out but that is perhaps 2 years away LOL
I thought your solution to tyres wearing out was to change cars :evil:
I do the same with mowers too.. :whistler: :rofl:
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I've had the same second hand mower since 2003.....
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It's been a while since anybody wrote on this topic, but I got my reminder in the mail from Bridgestone to go in for my 5000km free tyre rotation and wheel balance. I realise this is a marketing initiative so I'm wondering what traps they have planned for me to spend more money. Does anyone have any experience or heard of anything? I can't imagine it would be a wheel alignment as it is too soon.
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We're on the same deal, too. I assume they've given a written guarantee of distance for the tyres. Make sure the pressures are as they require, or they'll start to wriggle their way out of any responsibility. Regardless of what they advise, we won't be purchasing anything extra, the tyres cost enough as it is.
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Thanks Phil. I'll make sure I check pressures on the way there.. :D May as well get this done for free in case HY dealer wants to charge extra to rotate tyres.
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You'll have to tell Hy not to rotate tyres. :mrgreen:
I wonder if Bridgestone will check balance and then want to charge you for that. We haven't had our 1st check yet but i wouldn't put it past them.
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The Goodyear ASS included free pressure check, rotate as required and balance. You paid for an alignment.
We would actually check and adjust tyre pressures as often as the customer wanted.
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Alignment at what intervals :question:
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Alignment at what intervals :question:
10,000 klms. But flexible.
The Cooper mileage warranty required the alignment done, but the charge was, lasr time I looked, $65 for the whole service.
Reasonable for a 4x4.
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Just get back to the topic........ I just picked up my new i30 and i bought a set of winter tyres on extra alloys.
I'd been a bit worried about which tyres i was going to get ex-factory.
The winters are Vredestein SnowTrac 3 (very quiet) and the normal tyres are Continental Premium Contact 2.
So, no Hankooks or other aisian rubber.
Maybe thats the advantage of having a production facility in Europe (Czech Republic).
I night be a bit biased but i've always come back to Continental, and i've always used them on my Goldwings.
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Yes, the continentals get a good wrap on here (unusual to get them ex-factory) :eek: Maybe they have been monitoring our forum... :happydance:
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:whsaid: yeah my contis came ex-factory and boy am I pleased with them :D
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You'll have to tell Hy not to rotate tyres. :mrgreen:
I wonder if Bridgestone will check balance and then want to charge you for that. We haven't had our 1st check yet but i wouldn't put it past them.
Hey Phil, Bridgestone said it includes a wheel balance, so not just a rotation.
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Oh, my wife organised ours, so I'd better read the document. :-[ :lol:
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Oh, my wife organised ours, so I'd better read the document. :-[ :lol:
From memory you paid an arm and a leg Phil (so it would want to) :whistler:
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This is what happens when you,,,,,, oh never mind. :Pout:
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This is what happens when you,,,,,,mainsplain. :Pout:
Fixed. :happydance:
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I thought I would advise after taking up Bridgestone's offer. Turned up on Saturday morning thinking these guys would grumble and curse under their breath about doing a freebie job.
Anyway, I can report that they rotated tyres including a wheel balance without any attempt at selling me anything else. The guy simply said "yep sure buddy, give us 10 minutes". Didn't even have time to finish my coffee. At the end he said "see ya in 5k".
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I thought I would advise after taking up Bridgestone's offer. Turned up on Saturday morning thinking these guys would grumble and curse under their breath about doing a freebie job.
Anyway, I can report that they rotated tyres including a wheel balance without any attempt at selling me anything else. The guy simply said "yep sure buddy, give us 10 minutes". Didn't even have time to finish my coffee. At the end he said "see ya in 5k".
Pidim, give 'em a plug on here.
They deserve it. Most are franchises so if they're doing a good job, tell us.
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Happy to. Bridgestone in Hurstville (Suburb of Sydney). I've bought tyres from there in the past for my wife's car and happy with their advice also. Prices are very competitive also.
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Dunlop Sport BluResponse are supposed to be pretty good and quiet.
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Dunlop Sport BluResponse are supposed to be pretty good and quiet.
I removed and sold the Hankooks on my new i30 Tourer and put Dunlop Sport blue response on instead. It improved cabin noise but not by all that much.
My previous I30 hatch which I fitted with Continental Premium Contact 2 tyres was quieter.
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A lot of things affect road noise. The wheel size and tyre profile, the suspension, and the soundproofing on the car.