i30 Owners Club
GOT PROBLEMS OR ISSUES? => DIESEL => Topic started by: Hman on February 08, 2013, 20:43:17
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My car is about to hit 11,000km, and ever since 10,000km there's been a noise+vibration feeling through the clutch pedal that lasts for only a quick moment when moving from standstill in 1st or 2nd gear.
It happens between 1300rpm-1600rpm and has become a lot more frequent this week.
Yesterday It even happened on downshifting to 2nd or 3rd as the Revs passed 1300rpm-1600rpm.
Has anyone experienced this issue?
Also my fuel economy has gotten a lot worse since about 10,000km but i don't think the 2 problems would be related
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I'm thinking you need to put some diesel injector cleaner through (like this)
http://www.nulon.com.au/products/Fuel_Treatments/Diesel_Injector_Cleaner/#.URVpQKU4sbQ (http://www.nulon.com.au/products/Fuel_Treatments/Diesel_Injector_Cleaner/#.URVpQKU4sbQ)
or run a couple of tanks of Premium Diesel
I suspect the engine is running a bit rough due to poor fuel or dirty injectors :cool:
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I had the 15000km service and they couldn't hear it (Even though it happens on every drive). So I took the mechanic for a drive and he heard it and said it's definitely a bearing. They said it'll take 2 days to fix as they need to take out the gearbox. It will be covered under warranty.
Hopefully this fixes it!
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thrust bearing or spigot bearing by the sounds of it. :idea: gotta love that warranty. :mrgreen:
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They took the car for 2 days and replaced the part.
But the noise is still there!
Now they say I need to take the mechanic for a drive between 8:30am-4pm (which is impossible for me because of work) to show him the noise again.
Great
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:undecided: :disapp:
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I took the mechanic for a drive again and now they need the car for 1 day just to figure out what's wrong with it.
Since it's a warranty thing do you think I have grounds for asking for a replacement car for the day?
They already took the car for 2 days to fix this problem and it wasn't fixed.
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No harm in asking but I don't think they're under any legal obligation to provide one.
Nothing lost by asking the question of them though.
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My car is about to hit 11,000km, and ever since 10,000km there's been a noise+vibration feeling through the clutch pedal that lasts for only a quick moment when moving from standstill in 1st or 2nd gear.
I took the mechanic for a drive again and now they need the car for 1 day just to figure out what's wrong with it.
Did you get to the bottom of the noise problem?
My 2011 has started making a very short squeal/grate/vibration on starting from standstill. It did it very occasionally over the last few months but it is now more frequent .
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I would take notice of what "Dazzler" suggested and try some injector cleaner. It will not cost a fortune and worth a try.
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Haven't got to the bottom of it yet.
It's booked in for next Thursday for them to spend a day figuring it out.
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I would take notice of what "Dazzler" suggested and try some injector cleaner. It will not cost a fortune and worth a try.
What has injector cleaner got to do with a noise on clutch take up?
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I would take notice of what "Dazzler" suggested and try some injector cleaner. It will not cost a fortune and worth a try.
What has injector cleaner got to do with a noise on clutch take up?
Engine running rough causing resonance through the drive train :cool:
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Have a look at some of the posts relating to gear box problems shudders and noises. May not fix your problem but it is worth a try. It worked for me.
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Thanks guys for your help.
I dropped the car at Tynans Hyudai last Wednesday. About midday they called and said they need the car until Friday because they need to take the gearbox out.
Then at 12:10pm Friday they call and say the car isn't ready for the weekend and they will probably need it most of next week. They said they took photos and sent to hyundai to ask what to do next.
He said they could organise a hire car for the weekend but I'd have to pay.
I told him I need a car as its my only car, and Friday was day 5 (total) without my car and he called hours before picking up my car to say he wants it up to 1 more week.
I said its a warranty issue and I shouldn't be out if pocket for a car. He said he would try to juggle the cars around.
So they gave me a brand new i30 hatch until my car is ready!
Bad customer service but the new i30 is quite good.
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Thanks for the update (glad you stood your ground with the loan car) :goodjob:
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Our service dept doesn't offer loan cars, but if you say you need a car or they aren't getting the work, they seem to find something available. Needs to be arranged before the job is commenced though.
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I called today to see what's happening.
They haven't done anything. They are waiting for hyundai to tell them whether or not its a warranty issue... But they already took it for 2 days and "fixed it" under warranty... Only problem is they never fixed it and it only got worse since then.
So it's already established that it's a warranty issue right?
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I would see it that way. If they performed any repair work, then that work is warranted, so even if repair 1 was rejected, repair 2 is now a warranty job IMO.
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I complained via Hyundai's customer care line and facebook page last night.
Today Tynans called to say Hyundai will cover it all and this is a known problem. They are replacing the same part as before but it's a revised part due to the known problem.
This is great HOWEVER they saw while the gearbox is out that the clutch plate needs replacing in the next few months so instead of paying 8 hours labour + part later that they will cover the labour to do it now if I pay $220 for the part.
My car is on 24000km and he said the clutch plate wears out between 20,000-40,000km usually depending on driving style.
I think it's way too soon for it to wear out.
Does anybody know more about this?
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... they saw while the gearbox is out that the clutch plate needs replacing in the next few months so instead of paying 8 hours labour + part later that they will cover the labour to do it now if I pay $220 for the part.
My car is on 24000km and he said the clutch plate wears out between 20,000-40,000km usually depending on driving style.
I think it's way too soon for it to wear out.
Does anybody know more about this?
That is ridiculous! Many long term members have done close to or more than 160,000 kms in i30s up to 5 years old without needing a new clutch.. The clutch is not usually covered under warranty but should be with that age and mileage.. Now where is that facebook page :whistler:
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Is the clutch plate the same as the clutch?
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The clutch is a group of components of which , the clutch plate is a hard working component.
Here's a demo of a clutch.
Clutch Industries - How a clutch works (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRDWO5qo_iI#)
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This is great HOWEVER they saw while the gearbox is out that the clutch plate needs replacing in the next few months so instead of paying 8 hours labour + part later that they will cover the labour to do it now if I pay $220 for the part.
My car is on 24000km and he said the clutch plate wears out between 20,000-40,000km usually depending on driving style.
I think it's way too soon for it to wear out.
Does anybody know more about this?
That's garbage! There is no way a clutch should need replacing after so few K's. :fum:
My old Holden Barina had 420,000k on the clock when I sold it and it was still on the original clutch.
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It might be time to refer them to this site.... :whistler:
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Called hyundai customer care and spoke to Andrea. (They twice said they would call me but never did)
She tried to tell me that clutches are not covered under warranty but I persisted. She spoke to her boss who agreed its very soon for it to wear out so as a goodwill gesture they will pay for it.
Now all I need is for the original issue to be fixed when I pick up the car.
FYI here is the link to my FB post I made
https://www.facebook.com/HyundaiAustralia/posts/560652990662485 (https://www.facebook.com/HyundaiAustralia/posts/560652990662485)
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At least you've had one win! :goodjob:
It really shits me the way Hyundai tries to shirk their responsibilities... :fum:
When I bought my i30 I had a door seal fail after 6 months and they pulled the ol' wear and tear excuse as to it not being covered by warranty.
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That's great :goodjob2: :goodjob:.. I thought common sense would prevail if you protested (not that you should have had to) :disapp:
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:whsaid: :Agoodjob:
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THE SAGA CONTINUES!
A long time ago in a galaxy far far away I had a Hyundai i30...
It's been 3 weeks without my car.
Since my last update they mucked me around some more, gave me more wrong info and didn't get back to me when they said they would.
However today my car was fixed and ready for me to pick up!
I arrived and found some goo on the rear bumper and had them get it off (it seemed like glue).
Then I noticed my front left quarter panel had a scratch + dent on it. And the top of the rear bumper had a few extra scratches.
They will get a panel beater to fix my car this week so I'm still in the loan car and still without my car. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
PS if you haven't followed the link to my facebook post, plenty of people are commenting on it who have all had similar crap experiences with Tynans!
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Thanks for the update.
I understand why you would be disappointed with that level of service. :disapp:
I guess at least they are fixing the damage they caused.
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All very frustrating I imagine :rolleyes:
PS if you haven't followed the link to my facebook post...
You can enter your Facebook page in your i30 Owners Club profile if you wish :goodjob:
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I guess you won't be going back there then. I hope the clutch is fixed. :eek:
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:disapp: :fum:
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However today my car was fixed and ready for me to pick up!
So what exactly was the problem found to be the problem?
Presumably not "Engine running rough causing resonance through the drive train" as was suggested to me in an earlier post?
My little two second 'squeak and grind' hasn't occurred recently so hopefully whatever it was has cleared without using injector cleaner.
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However today my car was fixed and ready for me to pick up!
So what exactly was the problem found to be the problem?
Presumably not "Engine running rough causing resonance through the drive train" as was suggested to me in an earlier post?
My little two second 'squeak and grind' hasn't occurred recently so hopefully whatever it was has cleared without using injector cleaner.
All I've been told is what I said on the previous page that it was a known problem I think with the thrust bearing/plate (?).
The invoice I got says
"checked and found clutch pressure plate distorted causing noise and abnormal wear to clutch plate, replaced clutch and pressure plate assembly"
...so the above proves they should have never asked me to pay for the plate as it was caused by the warranty problem?!
The parts listed on the invoice are 'disc assy-clutch' & 'cover assy-clutch'. plus they machined the flywheel.
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I picked up my car!
Today was day number 30. They probably did 2 days of mechanical work total on the car.
The clutch noise seems to be fixed.
The damage to the car/panels seems to be fixed.
The car was covered in thick white dust. The interior upholstery is covered in white dust and driver's floor mat covered in dirt. It's disgusting.
I will have to spend 3+ hours cleaning it all this weekend.
I will be calling Tynans head office to complain about the ordeal and then I'll call Hyundai customer care to complain also.
I can't stress this enough - do not deal with Tynan Motors. This has been the worst automotive experience of my life. They have no idea what they are doing.
Every single person who I tell about my experience has either had a similar or worse experience with Tynans OR know people who have.
PS the cruise control in the 2013 i30 petrol auto loan car was terrible. It goes 10km/h above AND below the speed you set it at. Hopefully that doesn't happen to anybody else's car!
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Good you got your car back. :goodjob:
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PS the cruise control in the 2013 i30 petrol auto loan car was terrible. It goes 10km/h above AND below the speed you set it at. Hopefully that doesn't happen to anybody else's car!
Thanks for the update..
We have had one or two petrol owners report that cruise control issue. The CRDi version is apparently a lot better in that regard. :cool:
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The Diesel is solid as a rock, I do a lot of freeway hill travel, the car never changes gear, even when I drive like an old fogey. But my 3.8lt petrol Holden is all over the place on CC. :fum:
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Hi Hman
Sorry to hear about all that trouble.
Not the topic of this thread I know, but this line caught my attention:
plus they machined the flywheel.
This proves to me that the FD CRDi do not have the DMF as you can't machine a flywheel if it's not massive.
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Hi Hman
Sorry to hear about all that trouble.
Not the topic of this thread I know, but this line caught my attention:
plus they machined the flywheel.
This proves to me that the FD CRDi do not have the DMF as you can't machine a flywheel if it's not massive.
I personally can confirm that i30 CRDI does not have Dual Mass Flywheel!!
Have changed the clutch on a i30 CW 2012 becouse noice came from the clutch.... I changed the flywheel and the whole clutch package including the bearing. The customer have not came back after that.
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Thanks for that .. I didn't realise you worked at a dealership :undecided:
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Thanks for that .. I didn't realise you worked at a dealership :undecided:
Yes I work at a Hyundai workshop for about 6 years now and still working :) See these cars everyday...
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Thanks for that .. I didn't realise you worked at a dealership :undecided:
Yes I work at a Hyundai workshop for about 6 years now and still working :) See these cars everyday...
Your ongoing feedback about different i30 issues would be very much appreciated (hint hint)
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Dangerous territory for an employee, Dazz. :whistler:
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Dangerous territory for an employee, Dazz. :whistler:
only insight into fixes :confused: