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Title: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on April 07, 2020, 08:19:57
This thread will be added to as I trundle along with my bikes. Am taking a heap of pics to remember how it was.
Bandit 1250 - fuel starvation and service.
Bandi is starving for fuel and problem located through another forum .
Will change engine oil & filter too.

On trolley with tank and seat removed.

(https://i.ibb.co/zS5K2Kv/20200407-150533.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RCSL6Lw)

Fuid level and colour good. This is located  inder passenger seat.

(https://i.ibb.co/s3DcHGk/20200407-150835.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KyQBwkR)

Steel braided line is fuel at 45psi to fuel rail and injectors.

(https://i.ibb.co/w614gcK/20200407-150611.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Th5t2WH)

Bottom of tank witthpump & filter unit removed.

(https://i.ibb.co/qR0G4KT/20200407-154613.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RChnMfR)

Pump & filter . The brown thing on the right is the filter. There is a second one inside the unit near the pressure reg on the left. This is the culprit.


(https://i.ibb.co/SPxJxhW/20200407-154626.jpg) (https://ibb.co/G0JFJKB)
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: Dazzler on April 07, 2020, 10:06:23
Now this thread is a good idea.  :goodjob2: :goodjob:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on April 08, 2020, 08:26:42
Stripped the pump and replaced suction filter and  cleaned mesh filter on HP side of pump- the problem.
Suction filter - old and new.

(https://i.ibb.co/NsJb8WC/20200408-135700.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mG2gLhT)

The HP mesh fiter is encased in the body between the small hole and larger one
beneath  for pressure relief valve. Water at tap pressure  will not flow between.
(https://i.ibb.co/cyZKgDX/20200408-133158.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qDcLykF)

Starting to clean with small piece of wire,  degreaser and carb cleaner.
(https://i.ibb.co/m4XPDX7/20200408-133643.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rHcX7cJ)

After about 15 mins of above.
(https://i.ibb.co/dgWfpgs/20200408-133711.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hf7gdfx)

pic host (https://imgbb.com/)

View of mesh from bottom of unit.
(https://i.ibb.co/9ZPC4FD/20200408-135229.jpg) (https://ibb.co/J3ZMpf1)

Back together.
(https://i.ibb.co/85kF8Sc/20200408-143522.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PhkBCfQ)

Should have ordered an air filter (der), quick clean up in progress. Put new top on bench the other daytoo  :goodjob: clean  :D
(https://i.ibb.co/xmhdxj9/20200408-161015.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Rh2dR0r)

Also refitted pump to tank, dropped engine oil and made a deflector for oil from oil filter so it wouldn't get all over the headers.( or my nice new trolley.)

(https://i.ibb.co/T1YzXW4/20200408-154245.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sCbLSWK)
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: nzenigma on April 08, 2020, 08:55:05


Also refitted pump to tank, dropped engine oil and made a deflector for oil from oil filter so it wouldn't get all over the headers.( or my nice new trolley.)

(https://i.ibb.co/T1YzXW4/20200408-154245.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sCbLSWK)

This man is either high camp or a closet surgeon.

 :goodjob2: well done ; thanks, G.
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: yodm on April 08, 2020, 10:35:15
@mickd can you take photos of the trolley? that looks interesting. as an Italian bike owner, Jap bike issues are not interesting  :whistler:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on April 08, 2020, 11:08:18
@yodm
This section under "bike trolley " has some pictures.
If you need more info,  let us know.  :goodjob:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: nzenigma on April 08, 2020, 22:16:10
...
Bandi is starving for fuel and problem located through another forum .
Will change engine oil & filter too.

 :goodjob2: :goodjob2: :goodjob2:

It can be a long journey wading through the keyboard warriors' bosh, tosh and drivel. But somewhere there is usually a gem.  :sweating:

You probably know I spent HOURS trying to find info on my Bimmer motor upgrade. I was about to give up , but re-read an endless mind numbing thread. Found the answer on last page ( page 52   :faint: !!)
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on April 09, 2020, 00:22:45
...
Bandi is starving for fuel and problem located through another forum .
Will change engine oil & filter too.

 :goodjob2: :goodjob2: :goodjob2:

It can be a long journey wading through the keyboard warriors' bosh, tosh and drivel. But somewhere there is usually a gem.  :sweating:

You probably know I spent HOURS trying to find info on my Bimmer motor upgrade. I was about to give up , but re-read an endless mind numbing thread. Found the answer on last page ( page 52   :faint: !!)
The site is excellent.  Original person spent 4 days looking for problem.
That was in 2011 and there's about 9 pages of  " thank you so much ", "my dealer had no idea about it either ".  Asked re: service manual and was emailed a complete workshop version.  :victory: :victory: :happydance: :happydance:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on April 09, 2020, 05:29:21
WHAT AM I ? ?
The winner gets to guess where it came from and to express the "joy" of the event.

(https://i.ibb.co/N7HD4L2/20200409-142436.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6Nf9d40)
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: Hati on April 09, 2020, 07:07:56
WHAT AM I ? ?
Allen key head broken off?
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on April 09, 2020, 07:31:06
WHAT AM I ? ?
Allen key head broken off?
@Hati
Keep going , so far so good.
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: Hati on April 09, 2020, 07:39:00
Ran out of puff ;) I have a Honda and two Beemers, no Suzukis in the stable to guess where they use bolts that need allen keys. 
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on April 09, 2020, 07:45:44
Ran out of puff ;) I have a Honda and two Beemers, no Suzukis in the stable to guess where they use bolts that need allen keys.
Of course it HAD to be the long end of 125mm allen key
   :censored: :censored:  :headbang: :headbang: :censored: :censored:
That was still in the bolt head.   After about 30 mins of gentle tapping around the bolt head with next size allen key and a magnetic pick tool, it came out  :happydance:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: Hati on April 09, 2020, 07:50:08
Could turn the bike upside down and shake :D You just need to weld two hoops around your bike trolley :D ;) They always break and stay in the bolt heads ;) At least from my experience...
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on April 09, 2020, 09:01:03
Could turn the bike upside down and shake :D You just need to weld two hoops around your bike trolley :D ;) They always break and stay in the bolt heads ;) At least from my experience...

 :rofl: :rofl: :goodjob:
Can laugh now - not then -swear jar full.
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on April 09, 2020, 10:05:52
Continued on today.
Apart from drama with allen key  :faint: fairly uneventful.
Had a good look inside airbox. 4 big butterflies,  but they are the secondarys.
Primarys are on other side closer to engine.
2nds open when primary suck the air out between them. They smooth /retard throttle response.

(https://i.ibb.co/sC3wpk4/20200409-112438.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zFfRWjg)

Primary are gold colour

(https://i.ibb.co/jLHRJcp/20200409-112606.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4jJd16Q)

Radiator cap and fluid pump with coil packs directory on top of plug.

(https://i.ibb.co/B6853VD/20200409-135905.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jw7PfvK)


(https://i.ibb.co/zNC6HHD/20200409-135921.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qxhJFFV)

Last time I was at S/cheap I grabbed a small funnel,  got distracted by something shiny and left it behind. So made this :

(https://i.ibb.co/RPf1n60/20200409-134406.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xGWyvgj)

Tank on, oil done , fired up and all sweet.  Turn ignition on and Fuel pump stops after about 3 seconds instead of 10 seconds now  :goodjob:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: The Gonz on April 09, 2020, 10:46:30
Bike porn  :razz:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: nzenigma on April 09, 2020, 10:57:35
No funnel? WW2 trick used by my Dad.: place match stick across mouth of container> have match stick extending down> gently tip container> oil or petrol follows match directly down toward and into opening..
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on April 09, 2020, 11:14:06
Bike porn  :razz:
:rofl:  :rofl: payback  :goodjob: :goodjob2:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on April 09, 2020, 11:16:08
No funnel? WW2 trick used by my Dad.: place match stick across mouth of container> have match stick extending down> gently tip container> oil or petrol follows match directly down toward and into opening..
Sounds like a plan,  knowing my luck the match would end up in sump. :rolleyes:
Could pour standing up this way.
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: nzenigma on April 09, 2020, 11:37:53
No funnel? WW2 trick used by my Dad.: place match stick across mouth of container> have match stick extending down> gently tip container> oil or petrol follows match directly down toward and into opening..
Sounds like a plan,  knowing my luck the match would end up in sump. :rolleyes:
Could pour standing up this way.

Ok but, as you would tell an American,  just dont strike the match.  :twisted:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on April 16, 2020, 08:13:56
The Grey G:
With current restrictions & us staying fairly low & 2012 not far away, the Grey G is on the menu.  It's 30 y.o. next year - historic rego.  :victory:
Seat , side covers off.

Has a cute stainless steel 4-1 system made in Holland, with a 250mm  aluminum no baffle muffler .

(https://i.ibb.co/sJy8wxX/20200414-144332.jpg) (https://ibb.co/84615vQ)

Removed plugs and put some oil down the barrels. Removed rocker cover and  timing cover , drowned all valve train with oil (,sauce bottle works well ) and tried to turn over by hand. All good, no jamming or nasty noises.
Bit of wear on cam lobes nothing drastic at 90k km.
Next pic shows LHS of cams, valves, deep recess for spark plugs and the bolts that a hole in the centre and at each side to spray oil over everything at 30psi.
Main oil pressure is about 60 psi.

(https://i.ibb.co/J76Jd9S/20200416-101608.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Wy8J3LR)

Unfortunately it appears that head gasket is leaking oil.  :censored: oh well
Have removed exhaust and will clean up and have a better look.
Almost finished 2nd trolley as well.

(https://i.ibb.co/BNF9rCG/20200414-144220.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Qdt4CKk)

(https://i.ibb.co/C9KRWh1/20200414-144307.jpg) (https://ibb.co/B620wqz)
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on April 18, 2020, 07:47:54
4-2-1 system :

(https://i.ibb.co/kM5zKTk/20200417-154637.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wYB8yq3)

Cover back on ( so crap didn't get in valves) and start cleaning so I see if just head oil leak or the block as well. Using dishwashing liquid and degreaser mixed together, a toothbrush , wire and a rag or two .
Will install carbs & re-install exhaust so it can start and run. Once running install driveline  and test engine /box / driveline.

(https://i.ibb.co/ZNTGNsv/20200418-112415.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CW0mWd4)

Much later ,

(https://i.ibb.co/GWZgx7t/20200418-152815.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dPNnWBL)

Turn it over on starter motor tomorrow  :Good_luck:  - remembered something a short while ago,  lost THE key when we moved   :headbang:
 Plug 'n 'Play installation to be hooked up tomorrow.
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on April 22, 2020, 12:03:10
Been a few days , P&P starter & spun over -oil got to top of engine 👍.
Did a filter & oil change.  Called locksmith,  happened to be nearby,  she took seat lock that I had removed to help get a good start on key code.  1 hr later came back and Presto ! Key cut to suit the locks and she gave me all of the codes on the bikes and some extras as asked.  Bargain.
Spent today getting hydraulic system for the clutch going - lost more hair .
 Fluid travels approx 2 metres and the entire thing was empty.  Won.
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on April 25, 2020, 08:01:59
Update:
After much swearing the carbs are off black bike and on grey one. Amazing how hard pvc gets with age and air filter side of carbs are oval shaped, had to put arm up inside airbox to help push/spread to shape.
 Battery back in, all lights work, plugs cleaned & gapped & installed.
As an aside:
Both master and slave clutch cylinders need a rebuild - $60 for parts.
Have found through a lucky look at a forum that oil leak could be from drain holes that allow oil & water to drain out of spark plug wells. Oil comes from leaking gasket around plug wells in rocker cover. Oil is sprayed around rocker cover at roughly 30psi at 4 locations - 5mm away from plug wells, so with a bit of age. Had cover off initially and greased all gaskets and seals in there.
Need to add fuel,  probably Monday  :Good_luck:

Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on April 27, 2020, 04:05:31
Bandit :
Took Bandit for first spin since service.
 It went well before I cleaned the fuel mesh.
Found a deserted bit of road, at 25kmh in 2nd snapped it wide open.
A couple seconds later shifted into 3rd at 120 & rocketed another 40 & I shut off.
Goes well - k- ing oath !.  :evil: :cool:
 
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: nzenigma on April 27, 2020, 08:51:00
fellow degenerate soul.

An hour ago, I SMOKED the Z3 past old Harry's house in at similar manner.  120 kph in 2nd!   :crazy3: :happydance:

As I returned, idling past him at 3800 rpm,  he was lying on his lawn,  but he looked up  and motioned a thank you  :goodjob2: wave to me ... it seems he has lost all fear of getting COVID-19.
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: CraigB on April 27, 2020, 08:57:47
An hour ago, I SMOKED the Z3 past old Harry's house in at similar manner.  120 kph in 2nd!   :crazy3: :happydance:

As I returned, idling past him at 3800 rpm,  he was lying on his lawn,  but he looked up  and motioned a thank you  :goodjob2: wave to me ... it seems he has lost all fear of getting COVID-19.
Sure he wasn't choking on the smokey Z3 fumes...he might have been waving for help :whistler: :lol:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on April 27, 2020, 10:39:51
An hour ago, I SMOKED the Z3 past old Harry's house in at similar manner.  120 kph in 2nd!   :crazy3: :happydance:

As I returned, idling past him at 3800 rpm,  he was lying on his lawn,  but he looked up  and motioned a thank you  :goodjob2: wave to me ... it seems he has lost all fear of getting COVID-19.
Sure he wasn't choking on the smokey Z3 fumes...he might have been waving for help :whistler: :lol:

Tyre smoke ?
Bet you had the front off too .
Did give it another crack in an 80, @ + 100 , shut off   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: nzenigma on April 27, 2020, 22:15:56
An hour ago, I SMOKED the Z3 past old Harry's house in at similar manner.  120 kph in 2nd!   :crazy3: :happydance:

As I returned, idling past him at 3800 rpm,  he was lying on his lawn,  but he looked up  and motioned a thank you  :goodjob2: wave to me ... it seems he has lost all fear of getting COVID-19.
Sure he wasn't choking on the smokey Z3 fumes...he might have been waving for help :whistler: :lol:

  Nah, It was all applause, he thought he was back at Bathurst again,  :evil:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: Dazzler on April 28, 2020, 13:46:36
 :victory: :goodjob2: :goodjob:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on April 29, 2020, 04:46:56
An hour ago, I SMOKED the Z3 past old Harry's house in at similar manner.  120 kph in 2nd!   :crazy3: :happydance:

As I returned, idling past him at 3800 rpm,  he was lying on his lawn,  but he looked up  and motioned a thank you  :goodjob2: wave to me ... it seems he has lost all fear of getting COVID-19.
Sure he wasn't choking on the smokey Z3 fumes...he might have been waving for help :whistler: :lol:

  Nah, It was all applause, he thought he was back at Bathurst again,  :evil:
Obviously not Harry Firth,  can't wave ,   :lol:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: nzenigma on April 29, 2020, 23:58:46
 :rofl: :rofl: :goodjob:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: The Gonz on April 30, 2020, 08:44:12
I had to look up HF, still none the wiser. :eek:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: nzenigma on April 30, 2020, 09:45:54
I had to look up HF, still none the wiser. :eek:


Public service research skills.  :whistler: :faint: :rolleyes:

As a mere pleb,  :head_knock: I pushed a button thing and found Harry :

Firth won the Bathurst 500, including its predecessor at Phillip Island, four times

Firth has often been described as a 'bush engineer', someone who could probably build a race winning engine from nothing more than a roll of wire.

 Firth was instrumental in launching the professional careers of two famous drivers ,Colin Bond and  Peter Brock .

 :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: The Gonz on April 30, 2020, 10:04:31
Umm, anyone can push a button. I can't make sense of why he couldn't wave. :head_knock:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on April 30, 2020, 12:59:27
@The Gonz
Sorry mate, Petrol head joke or head affected by petrol.

Poor Harry Firth is dead.

Truly amazing mechanical insight , with a " why don't we just do this then "
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: nzenigma on April 30, 2020, 22:22:39
Truly amazing mechanical insight , with a " why don't we just do this then "

@mickd  Similar guy, John Britten is a cousin on mum's side. He was using carbon fibre in the 1970s.  :link: John Britten - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Britten)

@The Gonz , been pushing buttons and finding people for the last 10 years.   :cool: couldnt help it.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on April 30, 2020, 23:07:45
Truly amazing mechanical insight , with a " why don't we just do this then "

@mickd  Similar guy, John Britten is a cousin on mum's side. He was using carbon fibre in the 1970s.  :link: John Britten - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Britten)

@The Gonz , been pushing buttons and finding people for the last 10 years.   :cool: couldnt help it.  :mrgreen:
Britton motorcycles , awesome design and creative building techniques.
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: nzenigma on April 30, 2020, 23:14:14
Truly amazing mechanical insight , with a " why don't we just do this then "

@mickd  Similar guy, John Britten is a cousin on mum's side. He was using carbon fibre in the 1970s.  :link: John Britten - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Britten)

Britton motorcycles , awesome design and creative building techniques.

 KIWI   :baps:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on May 08, 2020, 09:13:14
somewhere between post #24 and here,  :rolleyes: distractions, distractions, :rofl:
threw some fuel into a soda water bottle, dragged it 1/2 outside the shed & hit the button - no good -  :undecided:,  blowing bubbles in the petrol -  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: fuel lines around the wrong way - fixed - hit button and bellowed into life( left muffler off). Plugged up spark plug drain wells with rag prior and no oil around the head, checked plug wells and yep oil over plug leads & rags soaked in oil -  :happydance: head stays on :victory:.
Start checking other items, typical of 29 1/2 yo machine, needs brake pads & seals front & rear, clutch & brake master cyl kits, rear wheel bearings. Ripped out shaft drive, uni, shaft, diff, cleaned & greased all, minor wear on teeth but all good. While on stands & rears off, switched rear guards, checked suspension bushes etc.
 
 Stripped.
(https://i.ibb.co/FD6TLTt/20200504-155407.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BCLM5MR)


Engine output on left, Uni goes in the middle and shaft goes into Uni 60mm down tube - cannot see to align :censored:
Unfortunately swearing doesn't help at all .
(https://i.ibb.co/VWFT2Lg/20200504-155456.jpg) (https://ibb.co/svTqygK)

Drivetube
(https://i.ibb.co/JC4bfR2/20200504-155502.jpg) (https://ibb.co/25QLD7P)

all the bits
(https://i.ibb.co/BsTSZtt/20200504-155516.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j431MTT)

Wheel flange
(https://i.ibb.co/CQpn8nP/20200504-155556.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m4rHTHN)

Suspension etc
(https://i.ibb.co/fYrj2JQ/20200504-155614.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kgqNxZM)

all back in with swapped guard.
(https://i.ibb.co/yqVPbMD/20200508-161349.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Ttr2FnZ)
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: Dazzler on May 08, 2020, 11:15:48
Sounds like hard work.. No time for mischief there.. Wouldn't suit me!  :winker: :snigger:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: nzenigma on May 10, 2020, 00:57:46
Sounds like hard work.. No time for mischief there.. Wouldn't suit me!  :winker: :snigger:

Ignore him Mick, it used to work in a bank.  :rolleyes: Say no more.  :mrgreen:

To Mick: This is an interesting project, :goodjob2: are you learning on the job, or have you worked on this model before?
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on May 10, 2020, 04:26:09
@Dazzler
You'd love this work. A lot of it goes like this :
"You know what goes where, you can't see it, but, you can feel it.
 Now close your eyes, put some hair around it and be gentle".
A saying from a mate's dad when we were young.

@nzenigma
Only plugs and oils & had the shafts out before. ( years ago I decided to  do shaft process after giving it a 4 x limit run in a 50 . Discovered the final drive had stress cracks   :Shocked: )
Have a workshop service manual, usually read a couple of times,  then do. Am learning as going.
All good fun, come on parts.
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: Dazzler on May 10, 2020, 11:58:29
@Dazzler
You'd love this work. A lot of it goes like this :
"You know what goes where, you can't see it, but, you can feel it.
 Now close your eyes, put some hair around it and be gentle".
A saying from a mate's dad when we were young.


Yep, sure sounds like something up my alley.  :D
Sounds like hard work.. No time for mischief there.. Wouldn't suit me!  :winker: :snigger:

Ignore him Mick, it used to work in a bank.  :rolleyes: Say no more.  :mrgreen:


As a relieving bank teller I toured the state chatting up the pretty young office girls that did the Banking (1st wife was one of those) so not as bad as it sounds.. :P
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: nzenigma on May 10, 2020, 22:07:40

Only plugs and oils & had the shafts out before. ( years ago I decided to  do shaft process after giving it a 4 x limit run in a 50 . Discovered the final drive had stress cracks   :Shocked: )
Have a workshop service manual, usually read a couple of times,  then do. Am learning as going.
All good fun, come on parts.

  As you say all good fun :goodjob2: :goodjob2:
My brain is wired so that I read the manual, find 10 useless anomalies , start the job and get to the WHAT the f part? or OK thats what they meant part,  and then I re-read the manual.

Mate of mine is an aircraft engineer and pilot; he is wired the same way.
Initially he couldnt understand the theory. Eventually said to the instructor, just let me fly the bloody plane. He went up, landed and passed the written test.
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: Dazzler on May 10, 2020, 22:30:51

Only plugs and oils & had the shafts out before. ( years ago I decided to  do shaft process after giving it a 4 x limit run in a 50 . Discovered the final drive had stress cracks   :Shocked: )
Have a workshop service manual, usually read a couple of times,  then do. Am learning as going.
All good fun, come on parts.

  As you say all good fun :goodjob2: :goodjob2:
My brain is wired so that I read the manual, find 10 useless anomalies , start the job and get to the WHAT the f part? or OK thats what they meant part,  and then I re-read the manual.

Mate of mine is an aircraft engineer and pilot; he is wired the same way.
Initially he couldnt understand the theory. Eventually said to the instructor, just let me fly the bloody plane. He went up, landed and passed the written test.

My Brother and I are like chalk and cheese when it comes to RTFM.. He reads them cover to cover (I seldom use them at all) They are always the very last resort for me (more like to google if I get stuck)
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: nzenigma on May 11, 2020, 00:15:35

Only plugs and oils & had the shafts out before. ( years ago I decided to  do shaft process after giving it a 4 x limit run in a 50 . Discovered the final drive had stress cracks   :Shocked: )
Have a workshop service manual, usually read a couple of times,  then do. Am learning as going.
All good fun, come on parts.

  As you say all good fun :goodjob2: :goodjob2:
My brain is wired so that I read the manual, find 10 useless anomalies , start the job and get to the WHAT the f part? or OK thats what they meant part,  and then I re-read the manual.

Mate of mine is an aircraft engineer and pilot; he is wired the same way.
Initially he couldnt understand the theory. Eventually said to the instructor, just let me fly the bloody plane. He went up, landed and passed the written test.

My Brother and I are like chalk and cheese when it comes to RTFM.. He reads them cover to cover (I seldom use them at all) They are always the very last resort for me (more like to google if I get stuck)

Ive got no problem with Google Dazz. Use it as much as any paper manual. I have just watched 6x U tube clips on the same subject. Only one mechanic was competent , the other 5 aardvarks just demonstrated how to screw the job up.Which was also useful. :mrgreen:  As an aside, my pilot mate is the previously mentioned skull fracture victim, be interested to see how his brain works now. No trial yet due to CV.
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on May 11, 2020, 05:05:14
Just for clarity :
Only read the process of what I'm doing,, not the entire book.  :lol: :lol:

Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on May 31, 2020, 05:14:33
Been waiting on a bit over a shitload of bits. All arrived now.
Rear caliper, opposed pistons. After being dissassembled and a  week soaking in WD40, 1 piston came out . Both piston have bits out of contact area  :eek:

(https://i.ibb.co/ydtKMdx/20200528-143308.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RYftMYJ)

(https://i.ibb.co/dB5VdrK/20200528-143329.jpg) (https://ibb.co/D4RvxtK)
Other side was given a gentle press fully home in by vise.
After another 2 days, slipped a long 6mm bolt in rear of caliper, packed out the front with wood and ssllooowwyy pressed piston out in vice.  :happydance:

Stubborn side before being pushed fully home.
(https://i.ibb.co/fCHXmt6/20200528-143343.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XztWmp0)

Other distractions again moment are: newcarpet, getting house fully painted and kitchen tiles & cupboards & benchtops are going to be refinished as well.
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: The Gonz on May 31, 2020, 05:35:58
I find the piston and caliper work fascinating.

Can't say the same for home improvement. After improving 5 houses (rentals and home) it's become very mundane.

Don't get me wrong - I still maintain my rentals first-hand - but the most interesting job I had recently was ...

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Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on May 31, 2020, 06:31:20
I find the piston and caliper work fascinating.

Can't say the same for home imporvement. After improving 5 houses (rentals and home) it's become very mundane.

Don't get me wrong - I still maintain my rentals first-hand - but the most interesting job I had recently was ...

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Won't be doing work, just paying for it.   :victory:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: Dazzler on May 31, 2020, 09:22:06
I find the piston and caliper work fascinating.

Can't say the same for home improvement. After improving 5 houses (rentals and home) it's become very mundane.

Don't get me wrong - I still maintain my rentals first-hand - but the most interesting job I had recently was ...

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All that waiting gave me time to guess (correctly)  :happydance:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: nzenigma on May 31, 2020, 23:54:13
.... Only one mechanic was competent , the other 5 aardvarks just demonstrated how to screw the job up.

Then Mick shows me the horror shots above, but saves the day with...

After another 2 days, slipped a long 6mm bolt in rear of caliper, packed out the front with wood and ssllooowwyy pressed piston out in vice.  :happydance:


My future advice,  to anyone, about anything, will include the 'ssllooowwyy technique'.   :evil:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on June 01, 2020, 08:09:59
1 hrs with a dremel, carb cleaner spray, thin gauge wire with cloth wrapped around it to clean out fluid passage ways,  I have 1 cleaned.
Add about 45 mins for the other side and , winner 2 shiny clean caliper halves.
(https://i.ibb.co/z6yX97M/20200601-155219.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Z2nB4Yj)

(https://i.ibb.co/44qt6mF/20200601-155221.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tYGK7mH)

Some minor pitting and corrosion, but almost 30 yo and I'm positive the last time they were opened were when being built.  :crazy1:
Will flush fluid yearly from now on. Need to flush hose, check for rust  :Good_luck: attach, bleed air and I will know that BOTH pads will be used when braking.
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on June 03, 2020, 12:35:07
Caliper back on, system flushed & bled, all good.
Another distraction, as I 'm 98.5kg not 106kg, then increasing to 114kg, old helmet is very loose. Tried on a couple that we got Anita years ago that just weren't right. The $400 AGV is very snug and the $90 is just a little loose near the ears. AGV is nice colour scheme, white black, grey. Other , well, is just very Pink and flashy, or was .
Work in progress:

(https://i.ibb.co/Jp1G1D5/20200603-191122.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gW2f2kz)
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: The Gonz on June 03, 2020, 12:41:25
From my days as Life Support Equipment Senior Design Engineer and Airworthiness Standards Representative, sizing a helmet was done by custom forming the internal padding. Is there some system of adding or removing (or reforming) padding to the existing shells?
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: Hati on June 03, 2020, 12:43:57
Is there some system of adding or removing (or reforming) padding to the existing shells?

Not in motorcycle helmet land. You have to pick something that fits your head size and shape the best.
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on June 03, 2020, 15:05:27
Is there some system of adding or removing (or reforming) padding to the existing shells?

Not in motorcycle helmet land. You have to pick something that fits your head size and shape the best.
Correct, can be a pain at times.
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: nzenigma on June 03, 2020, 22:22:35
Life Support Equipment Senior Design Engineer and Airworthiness Standards Representative,

 :faint:

I'm impressed.  :cool:  The entire first page of any correspondence must have been the letterhead.

 :goodjob2:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: The Gonz on June 03, 2020, 23:57:07
Life Support Equipment Senior Design Engineer and Airworthiness Standards Representative,

 :faint:

I'm impressed.  :cool:  The entire first page of any correspondence must have been the letterhead.

 :goodjob2:
Between that and the postnominals, I was left with just two lines of text for the subject matter. :crazy1: :lol:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on June 04, 2020, 05:29:02
Life Support Equipment Senior Design Engineer and Airworthiness Standards Representative,

 :faint:

I'm impressed.  :cool:  The entire first page of any correspondence must have been the letterhead.

 :goodjob2:
Between that and the postnominals, I was left with just two lines of text for the subject matter. :crazy1: :lol:

 :rofl:
A man of few words . :lol:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on June 06, 2020, 05:58:37
A brighter red would have been better,  but, much better than pink.

(https://i.ibb.co/ssmLK3G/20200606-145649.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gtjsSgp)
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on June 09, 2020, 04:24:04
Clutch master cylinder- old internals on display.
6"" shifter for size comparison.

(https://i.ibb.co/f4MkmR5/20200608-124033.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Gc7WgwL)
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on June 14, 2020, 06:30:45
Slave cylinder after 2 weeks in the WD40 bath.
It separated  :happydance:

(https://i.ibb.co/JpWTkLp/20200614-144655.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kDVTcnD)

(https://i.ibb.co/FBXpv3y/20200614-144705.jpg) (https://ibb.co/y8p2TPZ)

Yeah a bit shitty, scrape the crap out,

(https://i.ibb.co/5cwX2jc/20200614-145656.jpg) (https://ibb.co/88tnXx8)

(https://i.ibb.co/HN8P5gz/20200614-145703.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XyR5cJs)

Time for the dremel, oops, Ozito rotary tool and tiny wire wheel.
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: The Gonz on June 14, 2020, 09:51:21
 :lol:
Time for the dremel, oops, Ozito rotary tool
Funny, I often use the same line.
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on June 14, 2020, 11:48:23
:lol:
Time for the dremel, oops, Ozito rotary tool
Funny, I often use the same line.
I could have got a Dremel, but preferred the Ozito, with stand, flexible drive shaft, different size collars. Was cheaper too. :goodjob:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: The Gonz on June 14, 2020, 12:09:13
Quote from: mickd
I could have got a Dremel, but preferred the Ozito, with stand, flexible drive shaft, different size collars. Was cheaper too. :goodjob:
Yes, same good gear here, all in a neat carry case with lots of attachments. I even printed a fan to save me stopping and blowing.  :lol:

 :link: Rotary tool Fan - Dremel and others by Tomodachi1 - Thingiverse (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1872758)
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: Dazzler on June 14, 2020, 12:13:29
Quote from: mickd
I could have got a Dremel, but preferred the Ozito, with stand, flexible drive shaft, different size collars. Was cheaper too. :goodjob:
Yes, same good gear here, all in a neat carry case with lots of attachments. I even printed a fan to save me stopping and blowing.  :lol:

 :link: Rotary tool Fan - Dremel and others by Tomodachi1 - Thingiverse (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1872758)

Cool idea..  :P :D
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: nzenigma on June 14, 2020, 23:37:01
Quote from: mickd
I could have got a Dremel, but preferred the Ozito, with stand, flexible drive shaft, different size collars. Was cheaper too. :goodjob:
Yes, same good gear here, all in a neat carry case with lots of attachments. I even printed a fan to save me stopping and blowing.  :lol:

 :link: Rotary tool Fan - Dremel and others by Tomodachi1 - Thingiverse (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1872758)

Cool idea..  :P :D

It is.  :goodjob2:

Ive seen Ozito tools ( tile and jig saws) being used on work sites. They have a short life compared with good Jap or US equipment. But they are so cheap and work well its a no brainer, especially now that adding US transport cost almost doubles the machine or parts price.
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on June 14, 2020, 23:52:23
Quote from: mickd
I could have got a Dremel, but preferred the Ozito, with stand, flexible drive shaft, different size collars. Was cheaper too. :goodjob:
Yes, same good gear here, all in a neat carry case with lots of attachments. I even printed a fan to save me stopping and blowing.  :lol:

 :link: Rotary tool Fan - Dremel and others by Tomodachi1 - Thingiverse (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1872758)

Cool idea..  :P :D

It is.  :goodjob2:

Ive seen Ozito tools ( tile and jig saws) being used on work sites. They have a short life compared with good Jap or US equipment. But they are so cheap and work well its a no brainer, especially now that adding US transport cost almost doubles the machine or parts price.
Have an Ozito reciprocating saw that has been abused from day one.
The amount of work it's done down in dirt is huge and still going strong.
Horses for courses, have a AEG 650w drill now 40 yo and unstoppable.
Usually by items with steel gears. Have a Bosch jigsaw that has cutting over its
depth range heaps of times, just bought a new blade clamp screw for it $ 5:50.
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: nzenigma on June 15, 2020, 01:15:16
Quote from: mickd
I could have got a Dremel, but preferred the Ozito, with stand, flexible drive shaft, different size collars. Was cheaper too. :goodjob:
Yes, same good gear here, all in a neat carry case with lots of attachments. I even printed a fan to save me stopping and blowing.  :lol:

 :link: Rotary tool Fan - Dremel and others by Tomodachi1 - Thingiverse (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1872758)

Cool idea..  :P :D

It is.  :goodjob2:

Ive seen Ozito tools ( tile and jig saws) being used on work sites. They have a short life compared with good Jap or US equipment. But they are so cheap and work well its a no brainer, especially now that adding US transport cost almost doubles the machine or parts price.
Have an Ozito reciprocating saw that has been abused from day one.
The amount of work it's done down in dirt is huge and still going strong.
Horses for courses, have a AEG 650w drill now 40 yo and unstoppable.
Usually by items with steel gears. Have a Bosch jigsaw that has cutting over its
depth range heaps of times, just bought a new blade clamp screw for it $ 5:50.

I still have an Ozito jigsaw I bought for $20 when they first appeared at Bunnings.  :goodjob2:
All my original Hitachi saws and drills are still with me. :goodjob2:
Also have Bosch and Makita gear, :goodjob2:
On one of my trips into a Bunnings Trade center, I scored a 254 mm AEG mitre saw and stand for about $600. Magic : :happydance:
A new Ryobi  :spitty: :spitty: :spitty: belt sander melted due to overheating bearings.
And after one days use, a new Spanish :spitty: :spitty: :spitty: :spitty: drop saw was so dangerous it was threatening to kill my chippy mate, it went to the tip.
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on June 15, 2020, 04:15:29
Slave finished,  forgot to take pic until assembled ,  :head_knock:

(https://i.ibb.co/MMD42dH/20200615-131242.jpg) (https://ibb.co/86DpKkw)


Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: Hati on June 15, 2020, 07:45:52
Slave finished,  forgot to take pic until assembled
That is very poor form :D Go back and disassemble it quick smart then take those photos :D

Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on June 15, 2020, 10:21:47
Slave finished,  forgot to take pic until assembled
That is very poor form :D Go back and disassemble it quick smart then take those photos :D
You know , I actually did think of doing that !.
Then I thought " don't be so f#cking stupid!, give yourself an uppercut "
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: Hati on June 15, 2020, 11:01:17
Yeah, I know the feeling, was in the same boat when I split in half both my Beemers for clutch replacement on one and gearbox and balancer shaft seals on the other. Luckily the lack of photos did not catch me out.
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on June 26, 2020, 11:02:19
Bike work was put on hold for few days,  getting things moved out for painters and new carpet and curtains & blinds, oh, and getting kitchen done. Painter is going to 2pack the doors and the cupboards and bench tops and tile slash back. Then air brush bench tops to create marble. Bench top is 8m long in total, with 13 m of cupboard . I get to polish stainless cooktop, rangehood  :rolleyes:
Anyway, went to do more work,  :Shocked:, Bandy had a flat rear. F-ing tel screw, removed rear wheel and WTF, I'm covered in graphite grease  :eek:.
Realised then that the, cheap,  black chain and sprockets are not black, but coated in graphite.   :crazy1: :crazy1:
So is, underside of chain guard-5mm , inside of swingarm-2mm, centrestand -2mm, from front sprocket to back of starter & waterpump & clutch rod etc is totally packed in it.  :crazy1: :crazy1:
Searched invoices for work done : front sprocket $180, rear $85, chain DID Titanium Nitride $350, labour $130. Modern chains have O or X rings to hold grease inside the roller and only need a very little bit of oil .  After 3 days of using kero, wd40, degreaser, a truck load of rags, gloves, scrapers it's now ready for reassembly in the morning.


(https://i.ibb.co/vsbNYrY/20200621-132002.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3fwxz8z)

(https://i.ibb.co/LnLcDBG/20200621-131927.jpg) (https://ibb.co/r4CzKqW)

(https://i.ibb.co/tmn6cWx/20200621-163508.jpg) (https://ibb.co/X26Ppv3)

Flat was fixed by local tyre dealer as well.  :goodjob:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: Dazzler on June 26, 2020, 12:32:39
Gee, I vaguely recall the carpet (pinkish) was a bit worn, but though the rest of your place was very schmik!  :Shocked:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on June 26, 2020, 12:54:15
Gee, I vaguely recall the carpet (pinkish) was a bit worn, but though the rest of your place was very schmik!  :Shocked:
Pinkish ?, close, how about 47 shades if green. Hang on,  you were wearing the hat whilst here.  :lol:
Badly faded green carpet, cream kitchen and walls.
Sample of how benchtop will look, all cupboards white & middle colour for tiles.
See what happens when you can't go away to exotic places, like Tas

(https://i.ibb.co/5hYZ12m/20200620-172632.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Mk8dg9r)

(https://i.ibb.co/vv23Vgc/20200619-162603.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0VPCm8n)

(https://i.ibb.co/Lkmpmbp/20200618-094606.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ng9k9Zk)
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: The Gonz on June 26, 2020, 13:34:33
 :goodjob: Noice!
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: Dazzler on June 26, 2020, 23:26:06
Sorry I must have been thinking of another Mick with that colour!  :crazy1:

Yep that will look great when finished. Say hi to the lovely Anita from us.  :victory:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on June 27, 2020, 03:08:29
CLEANER ! ! !


(https://i.ibb.co/qgPDgvc/20200627-104939.jpg) (https://ibb.co/s1Mg1ZN)
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: nzenigma on June 27, 2020, 04:03:19
 :DoubleKiss: ooooORGASMIC !!!!
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on July 03, 2020, 11:01:22
Well !, forget about those pics of the bench & kitchen etc.
Quite calmly and quietly Pulled our painter up regarding having our 2 lounges, otterman & bespoke tables uncovered  and getting covered in dust, (about 20k worth & Red velvet lounge got paint on it) and the paint on our fabric bed base and the tear in the fabric on the other side.

He packed up, left the 2 apprentices to do touch ups and clean up.

Ensuite, main bed,  craft room and lounge done.

 :disapp:   :crazy1:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: Hati on July 03, 2020, 11:19:43
CLEANER ! ! !
Indeed but that chain looks a bit tight to me ;)
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: Dazzler on July 03, 2020, 11:45:20
Well !, forget about those pics of the bench & kitchen etc.
Quite calmly and quietly Pulled our painter up regarding having our 2 lounges, otterman & bespoke tables uncovered  and getting covered in dust, (about 20k worth & Red velvet lounge got paint on it) and the paint on our fabric bed base and the tear in the fabric on the other side.

He packed up, left the 2 apprentices to do touch ups and clean up.

Ensuite, main bed,  craft room and lounge done.

 :disapp:   :crazy1:

Bugger! Compensation?

Impressive cleanup on the bike!  :eek: :goodjob2: :goodjob:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: nzenigma on July 03, 2020, 23:05:07
our painter
 :disapp:   :crazy1:

"painter"  :head_knock:  being the operative word.

I once engaged an Italian to paint the interior of a rental house. The chosen colour was off-white. He employed a Samoan lad to do the work.
At the end off the week I inspected the Samoan's meticulous work. Perfect; except that Italian had cocked up the colour code and now every room was painted purple.  :crazy1:

Conference time!!!! :phone1: :phone1:

 Italian blamed everyone else but himself.

Samoan lad said; "I was wondering about it, eh! But, I didn't have change for the phone box so I couldn't ring up and find out, eh! This colour would look real nice back in Samoa, eh!

Italian repainted the house.  :goodjob2:
Title: Re: Bike work.
Post by: mickd on July 04, 2020, 09:02:22
@Dazzler
Nothing outlaid by us, so one less drama there.
@nzenigma
I don't get it ?! ?!, what's wrong with purple ??  🤢🤢🤮🤮

Won't be paying for any work not fully completed, or any paint or materials ordered. He must have had a rethink , had email blaming his 2 apprentice for it all and that it could have all handled better by both. Think he just realised that his quote of app $22k has just taken a hiding and wants back in,  :rofl: :rofl:
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