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OFF TOPIC => MEMBERS OTHER MOTORS => Topic started by: bumpkin on July 12, 2012, 09:16:33
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As you know Kim's dad has been unwell for some time, he has been admitted to hospital 4 times in 7 weeks with the latest happening last Friday.
We have been told that amputation of his leg is now a virtual certainty, not a minor procedure or recovery for a 78 year old man. We are grateful however that it is something which can be treated and that Eilidh's grandad is going to be with us for the future albeit with a disability, which for a reasonably active man will be difficult for him to deal with emotionally if not physically.
That said, we are now going to be relied on much more heavily by Kim's parents now (and mine are not getting any younger either).
To the point then, we think that to make things easier for all we need to go to a bigger car, Kim's dad was OK with the i30 and ix20, but extremely difficult to get legs which don't bend easily in and out of either of them, it would be simpler with something bigger. We also need something which is comfortable enough for longer haul with 4 adults and one child, the ix20 is not bad, but there is a lot of fiddling to get seatbelts etc sorted out in the rear!
My Hyundai dealer is multi-franchise and have both cars which I have shortlisted lying on the forecourts right now so I thought I would pass the information to you guys for your thoughts.
Option 1 - Mazda 6 1.8 TS - 2012 with delivery mileage. Pre-registered by the dealer (would make me the second owner, not an issue). Insurance, VED and running costs of this car are higher than option 2, but this is offset to a certain extent by the price being £2000 less than my second option.
http://www.arnoldclark.com/used-cars/mazda/6/1.8-ts-5dr/2012-%2812%29/ref/arndwm-75157/ (http://www.arnoldclark.com/used-cars/mazda/6/1.8-ts-5dr/2012-%2812%29/ref/arndwm-75157/)
Option 2 - (I will state now that on paper this is my preferred option, but I have not driven either yet which is obviously the real test)
Hyundai i40 1.6GDi Active Tourer. 2012 with delivery mileage also pre-reg. This car has better fuel consumption than the Mazda, in fact the fuel costs would be very close to the ix20 which for the size of it impresses me, insurance cost is comparative with the ix20 as is the annual VED. The Hyundai is also much better specification than the Mazda.
http://www.arnoldclark.com/vehicle-details.html?stock_reference=arndwh-74761 (http://www.arnoldclark.com/vehicle-details.html?stock_reference=arndwh-74761)
The Mazda then would cost me the same monthly payment to buy as I am currently paying for the ix20, but the running costs would be higher by about £60 per month.
The i40 will cost me £50 per month more to buy, but running costs will be about £5-10 per month more.
This looks like a draw, perhaps with a slight majority leaning towards the Mazda.
As stated though, the i40 is better specification and more ecologically slanted given that it is a BD.
Both are good looking cars in my opinion, residual values I suspect will be similar, given that 08-10 Mazda 6 are available for £7-10K.
Still a draw then.
Warranty on the Mazda is 3 years/60K miles.
i40 gets 5 year Triple Care.
In my head the i40 wins on the basis of the warranty, the rest of it is pretty much neck and neck.
All comments gratefully received............... :razz: :wacko:
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Don't have much time right now Brian, but from the link you posted I don't think that i40 will stay on sale for long, at that [tempting] price
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Cheers Steve :goodjob:
They actually have a range of pre-reg i40's available all over Scotland and would be willing to take any of them to Aberdeen for me :happydance:
http://www.arnoldclark.com/used-cars/hyundai/i40/options/min_price/0/max_price/60000/postcode/ab16%206ye/latitude/57.1528/longitude/-2.1522/per_page/25/orderby/distance/ (http://www.arnoldclark.com/used-cars/hyundai/i40/options/min_price/0/max_price/60000/postcode/ab16%206ye/latitude/57.1528/longitude/-2.1522/per_page/25/orderby/distance/)
The fifth one down is the one which my head says to go for, given that the covers are still on the seats, stalks etc but my heart is with the grey one for looks :undecided: (I also like the Blue one in Inverness)
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Hi Brian, I hope that all works out as well as possible for Kim's dad. Like you say there are positives there for sure and my thoughts are with you. I know what it's like to go through.
As far as the cars go, I don't know enough about the specifications of the cars you get over there and how the 1.6 Bluedrive compares.
You know my thoughts on the two car makes - Megan recently bought a Mazda 3 and Mazda certainly build a quality product and that is evidenced by their popularity over here (Australia's top-selling car).
Personally I prefer the Hyundai product and the i40 is a lovely car and that one looks terrific in that colour.
I'll be interested to know which one you go for.
Dave
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I'm biased of course but the i40 looks the goods.
I agree with Dave re tha Mazda build quality but over here at least, thay are too expensive compared to their opposition.
Hope all goes as well as possible with Kim's Dad.
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I test drove the i40 when it was released earlier this year and really liked it.
It was roomy and the kit was just brill but was too big for me..
Never driven a Mazda but they do have a franchised dealer around here so lots of Mazda's about.
It seems this is going to be hard decision.
Would they "loan" you each car for say a day/half a day so you could try them out?
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If there was a potential sale at the end of it they would, yes, I reckon.
You'd have to make it known though that you were comparing two cars and one of them was going to be unlucky, to prepare one of them for the inevitable.
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Very interesting Brian.. Sorry to hear about the F.I.L.
The Mazda looks quite dated now (I remember not that long ago when I lusted over one..)
Will be interested to hear your driving feedback :happydance:
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Sorry to read about your F.I.L. and sympathise with your dilemma.
If easy access to a car is a serious factor for a disabled man I am surprised you are not considering a more upright car like an SUV where the seat height from the ground is much greater making it easier to get in and out of.
Did you look at the ix35 and similar models from other manufacturers?
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Thanks Alan
Have to admit that yes I had, the ix35 is actually too high as is the Sportage etc. I have to consider balance as well as mobility and so decided that something in the Mondeo, Passat, Mazda 6 etc is the easier option, it's more about getting two people at the door to give him the support and mobility he requires.
Having thought long and hard today I am actually considering going for one of the pre-reg 61 plate i40 Style variants, they are only £1000 more expensive and whilst not BlueDrive only loose a few mpg, with £50 per annum higher VED but with excellent specification for the price. They have one in black and one in silver and so I think they deserve a serious look while I am at it :D
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I am under the impression that the main feature of blue drive is ISG. In the laboratory this may well make a difference - but in real life I doubt that it makes hardly any difference to economy.
I have ISG on my i30 and although I drive in town regularly - the ISG only cuts in for a few seconds each time before the traffic moves.
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Well folks, was across at the dealers last night and this morning, bit of a necessity given that the problem with the ix20 brakes is a sticky handbrake piston (not the main piston) which is sticking on rather than off. Rather hot wheel when I took it over this morning :Shocked:
Tried the Mazda last night, a good competent vehicle but as Dazz says beginning to look rather dated and the TS is a fairly basic model being the second one up in the range. Overall the higher models look better, things like big black grilles where I like to see fog lights just make the TS a bit bland. The car however was very nice to drive, quite a sporty feel for the size of the vehicle, smooth feeling on the dual carriageways but nice and pointy in the country lanes. Overall feeling was the car is competent, would do the job but a bit lacking in the style department, nothing major, perhaps I have been spoilt by driving Hyundai for the last 5 years or so!!
On to this morning then and a shot of the i40 Tourer. What a simply spectacular vehicle! It is not actually much bigger than the new i30 I have to admit, the extra cabin space and boot room is wrapped up very nicely in a tight body, very clever. The Style variant has 17 inch wheels, privacy glass, auto lights and wipers. Keyless entry with a Stop/Start button, electronic handbrake with AutoHold, cruise control / speed limiter, auto dimming rear view mirror, GPS and reversing camera, front and rear parking sensors (4 at each end), parking guidance system, dual zone climate control, heated door mirrors, heated front and rear screens with a clever anti-fog system at the front which senses fogging and deals with it automatically, all easily accessible from the electronically adjusted drivers seat. The 1.6 GDi is not going to win any traffic light grand prix, but like the ix20 pulls the car quite satisfactorily through the 6 speed manual gearbox. The Mazda is quicker, but it also sounds and feels it!
Very very smooth and quiet on the main roads and extremely smooth on the country lanes, whilst overall more squishy than the Mazda. It soaks up the bumps better and gives a more luxury feel rather than sporty.
Sold! Managed to wind my dealer down on the price and got her for only a couple of hundred more than the Active version.
Here is the dealers link to the one I have bought
http://www.arnoldclark.com/used-cars/hyundai/i40/options/postcode/ab166ye/latitude/57.1528/longitude/-2.1522/per_page/25/orderby/distance/ (http://www.arnoldclark.com/used-cars/hyundai/i40/options/postcode/ab166ye/latitude/57.1528/longitude/-2.1522/per_page/25/orderby/distance/)
3rd one down in black should be marked RESERVED.
Picking it up on Monday morning prior to heading off to County Durham in the North East of England for a week, so I will have plenty of opportunity to enjoy her straightaway and find any quirks or foibles!
As an aside I thought my conversation with my insurance company was a hoot! Called them up to notify change of vehicle for the remainder of my policy to mid-October. Went through the details and waited with baited breath for the additional premium which they always add on in the UK ( don't know of they do that in Oz?). Back comes the nice girl with "that will be and additional premium of £35.89 sir.............which includes the £35.00 administration fee". So to insure the car from now until October is actually £0.89 more expensive!
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That is fantastic.
:brilliant:
It looks great - good decision :goodjob2:
(Cheap insurance too).
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Fan black tastic :D
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On to this morning then and a shot of the i40 Tourer. What a simply spectacular vehicle!
Thought you would love the car. I did.
When I tested one I really enjoyed the car and would have been tempted but for the size which I don't need.
Back comes the nice girl with "that will be and additional premium of £35.89 sir.............which includes the £35.00 administration fee". So to insure the car from now until October is actually £0.89 more expensive!
It is such a rip off the admin fee.
£35 for pressing a few buttons and a new certificate plus postage................
My company don't charge if you have been with them for more than 12 months
ps Re sat nav - Isn't there an issue as is won't take post codes or something to do with the updates service not available in UK?
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Yeah, the inbuilt UK sat navy's don't take postcodes, so you have to do it via town, street, more long winded but I will get plenty of opportunity to test it!
Don't know about updates :undecided:
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Brian,
Check this out.
may have to log in if you can remember your pw
http://www.hyundaiownersclub.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4410 (http://www.hyundaiownersclub.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4410)
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As Alan said before, I will probably end up using my Nuvi!
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Well Brian ... I am not normally a fan of black cars (but that is partly climate related) however, your i40 looks sensational :mrgreen: :mrgreen: plus you are a lot better with keeping your cars clean (so it should stay looking great)
:judges: Really excited for you and look forward to some decent photos and some more feedback :happydance:
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Good news Brian. The car looks nice and does indeed have a "Reserved" banner on it.
When I traded my Impreza on the i30, the insurance went down, even though the Impreza was 6 years old. They sent me a cheque for the difference.
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I was reading the i40 thread on here tonight and found the discussion of the electronic handbrake interesting.
Many of us appear to have tried the car but nobody seems to have actually used it properly :undecided:
When you start the car up it is automatically on, to switch it off you can either press the brake pedal and the button together (long winded) or simply drive away, it switches itself off.
This though means when you next need it you need to press the button again, not as intuitive as feeling the lever and pulling it up.
Not to worry, by pressing the AutoHold button behind the handbrake button a white light appears in the dash display which handily says AutoHold. When you pull up to a junction, the vehicle comes to a stop and the light turns green as the handbrake applies itself. Drive away and it goes back to white. Nice.
Finally when you switch the engine off it applies itself automatically again in either mode.
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Hey that is pretty nifty Brian :happydance: I guess it is something that needs to be explained to any new drivers of that model :confused:
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Why complicate such a simple mechanism? It's just something else to go wrong
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But people said that about ABS, airbags, independent rear suspension etc ad nauseum, but now we wouldn't do without them.
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But people said that about ABS, airbags, independent rear suspension etc ad nauseum, but now we wouldn't do without them.
True, but they all improved handling and/or safety.
The handbrake thing is just a gimmick. (IMHO).
A bit like that old foot operated parking brake idea. Didn't catch on because sometimes the basic idea is as good as it gets. The last big improvement in handbrake (Parking brake) design was the relocation from under the dash to between the seats.
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The new 2012 Camry has gone to a foot brake and I forgot t until the car wouldn't move :whistler:
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But going by my experience with the simple mechanism, it can go wrong whilst remaining simple, so it can't go any more wrong by complicating it!! :lol:
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And don't forget - clutch in to start.
When I test drove it I stopped and turned the engine off so I could get out and check the car over
Pressed button to start and it wouldn't.
As I was a few miles away from the dealers I started to panic then all of a sudden I had this thought of pressing the clutch in and yes it fired up.
You won't be disappointed with although you might have a problem due to its length of parking on your drive.........
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It fits onto the drive, but I can't close the gates, not really a problem as the gates are getting on a bit and are requiring some major re-attachment work. I will just take them off :whistler:
I always push in the clutch to start a car anyway, in fact the ix20 also won't start without the clutch....
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Hi folks :goodjob:
Picked up the i40 this morning and I have spent the day driving the 320 miles to Durham. Love the car to bits, very smooth, really impressed with cruise control, the inbuilt sat nav performed flawlessly and we have averaged 45 mpg which for a 1.6 petrol hauling 2 tonnes is superb. Really, really happy with her, this is the most refreshed I have ever felt after 6 hours of driving!
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Awesome. Glad you're pleased (sounds fantastic) :D
But judging by your sig, you've still got an ix20 :P
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Still showing, buddy :lol:
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Sorted, Durham appears sh1t for t'interweb, 3G is non-existent!
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Is that her name, Blackhawk?
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Glad you enjoyed the new motor.
I knew you would. I did.
Many miles of refreshing carefree motoring..
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Yep, Blackhawk, based on black car with eagle inspired headlights.
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I like the name Blackhawk - a LOT
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Blackhawk,
Glad it isn't after the chopper in the film of the same name.
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I'll get decent pix of Blackhawk up after my hols folks! :happydance:
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I'll get decent pix of Blackhawk up after my hols folks! :happydance:
In the mean time just go to his facebook page... :whistler: (only 1 photo though)
Looks great Brian.. I like the name as well.. I was really impressed with the seats and the driving impression when I drove one too :goodjob:
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Weird, this is the first I've seen of this thread...... :eek:
Anyhow, enjoy the new wheels, Brian and best wishes to the Father In Law.... :goodjob:
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Weird, this is the first I've seen of this thread...... :eek:
Anyhow, enjoy the new wheels, Brian and best wishes to the Father In Law.... :goodjob:
Try to keep up Rusty. :snigger:
You've been sneaking in a sleep now and then haven't you. :happydance:
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If only that was the case, Trev... :lol:
I've had this happen previously, it's a bit bizarre as I always just click on "show all unread posts"...... :confused:
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If only that was the case, Trev... :lol:
I've had this happen previously, it's a bit bizarre as I always just click on "show all unread posts"...... :confused:
Strange. That's all I do but apart from some time back when there was an acknowledged issue, I've never missed any.
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Glad you're happy with the new car - I can understand it though :mrgreen:
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For those of you not on Facelift here's the pic I posted on there, I have finally managed to find a decent connection!!
Meet Blackhawk :happydance:
(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/bumpkinbucket/85317dba.jpg)
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Nice to meet you Blackhawk :exclaim:
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Very nice. :goodjob2:
Once you've had black.......
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Very nice, Brian... :goodjob:
But, but....I'm a little concerned...have you been driving it backwards? :whistler:
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Very nice, Brian... :goodjob:
But, but....I'm a little concerned...have you been driving it backwards? :whistler:
It's very confusing driving in the UK Rusty. They park on either side of the road, regardless of direction of travel. Sometimes you can be driving down a street and you start to wonder if it's a One Way and you didn't notice when you drove into it.
Ironically, I DID drive the wrong way down a One Way street when leaving Aberdeen University after having coffee with Brian. :-[ :-[
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EN61 ZHJ
EN - abbreviation for England
61 - your age
HJ - Hung Jury
But the Z has got be stumped...... :undecided:
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Glad Trevor knew what Russ was on about, he had me confused!!! Don't worry about the one way street at the Uni Trev, nobody else cares about them either :wacko:
EN - Tilbury UK, this is an ex Hyundai show car.
61 - registered sometime between Sept 11 and March 12 (actually Feb 12)
ZHJ - Random assignation
Nothing like as interesting as your take Dave!! :lol:
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Some more pix for you.
(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/bumpkinbucket/86c0bc98.jpg)
(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/bumpkinbucket/4a923685.jpg)
(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/bumpkinbucket/8d923fcc.jpg)
(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/bumpkinbucket/eb744b67.jpg)
(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo261/bumpkinbucket/0831bdde.jpg)
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Very nice, Brian... :goodjob:
But, but....I'm a little concerned...have you been driving it backwards? :whistler:
It's very confusing driving in the UK Rusty. They park on either side of the road, regardless of direction of travel. Sometimes you can be driving down a street and you start to wonder if it's a One Way and you didn't notice when you drove into it.
Ironically, I DID drive the wrong way down a One Way street when leaving Aberdeen University after having coffee with Brian. :-[ :-[
Thanks for the explanation, Trev...... :goodjob:
So, is it actually illegal and they do it anyhow like here in Oz?
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Very nice, Brian... :goodjob:
But, but....I'm a little concerned...have you been driving it backwards? :whistler:
It's very confusing driving in the UK Rusty. They park on either side of the road, regardless of direction of travel. Sometimes you can be driving down a street and you start to wonder if it's a One Way and you didn't notice when you drove into it.
Ironically, I DID drive the wrong way down a One Way street when leaving Aberdeen University after having coffee with Brian. :-[ :-[
Thanks for the explanation, Trev...... :goodjob:
So, is it actually illegal and they do it anyhow like here in Oz?
No, it is not illegal Russ, if it was it would simply be ignored though, the cops can't enforce the laws we do have!!
I could not believe the number of people in the NE of England who think it is acceptable to zip around at least 20mph over the speed limit, most of all in the 50,40 and 30 zones :scared:
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Looks great Brian.. I sat in a mid range i40 Sedan today (yum) see separate posting..
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Glad Trevor knew what Russ was on about, he had me confused!!! Don't worry about the one way street at the Uni Trev, nobody else cares about them either :wacko:
The people up where I was coming out of it sure did. :Shocked:
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Glad Trevor knew what Russ was on about, he had me confused!!! Don't worry about the one way street at the Uni Trev, nobody else cares about them either :wacko:
The people up where I was coming out of it sure did. :Shocked:
:rofl: :rofl:
I found that when I drove in Canberra several years ago.
I found the people there to be very friendly as lots of drivers waved at me everywhere I drove, which I normally don't have happen in Perth.
It was an unusual wave though but I guess it's just one of those local quirks. :undecided:
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Glad Trevor knew what Russ was on about, he had me confused!!! Don't worry about the one way street at the Uni Trev, nobody else cares about them either :wacko:
The people up where I was coming out of it sure did. :Shocked:
:rofl: :rofl:
I found that when I drove in Canberra several years ago.
I found the people there to be very friendly as lots of drivers waved at me everywhere I drove, which I normally don't have happen in Perth.
It was an unusual wave though but I guess it's just one of those local quirks. :undecided:
One guy even ran about 20' to thump on the roof of the car. That was when I started to catch on. :whistler: But by then I was back on a two way road - and about to get very lost in the western suburbs(?) of Aberdeen trying to find my way into the mountains with Brian's verbal instructions. :scared:
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If a big Scotsman wearing a kilt was running after me wanting to give me a bang I'd get the hell out of there too.
Very wise decision. :goodjob:
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If a big Scotsman wearing a kilt was running after me wanting to give me a bang I'd get the hell out of there too.
Very wise decision. :goodjob:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Actually he was a tall skinny, middle aged weed in a sports coat and tie. Looked like one of those typical nerdy university lecturer types.
With sincere aoplogies to Brian who DOESN'T display any of those characteristics.
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Yair. I know. We're off topic.
Bloody nice looking car Brian.
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Yeah, looks nice.
I hope you never get a bang on the roof.
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No, it is not illegal Russ, if it was it would simply be ignored though, the cops can't enforce the laws we do have!!
Ta Brian....It's illegal here but that doesn't stop the odd person doing it and I don't see the cops booking them...
Maybe there's not as much money in it compared to speeding... :whistler:
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I'm not sure how it is in the east, but in the west there are parking provisions in the Road Traffic Code that can be used in certain circumstances but the police don't generally police parking as it is a local council issue, not a police one.
Unless it creates a dangerous situation or traffic obstruction.
I haven't checked the new RTC but in the old one there was a regulation which stated that a parking offence was not an offence under the code if it was also an offence under local government by-laws, so that may explain why the police don't touch it there either.
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Here's what's in our rule book... :)
Parallel parking
Notes
1 Area, length, of road, park and stop are defined in the dictionary.
2 Rule 165 provides defences to the prosecution of a driver for an offence against a provision of this Division.
208 Parallel parking on a road (except in a median strip parking area)
(1) A driver who parks on a road (except in a median strip parking area) must position the driver's vehicle in accordance with subrules (2) to (8).
Penalty: 3 penalty units.
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Driver's vehicle and median strip parking area are defined in the dictionary.
(2) The driver must position the vehicle to face— (a) in the direction of travel of vehicles in the marked lane or line of traffic on, or next to, the part of the road where the driver parks; or
(b) if there is no traffic on, or next to, that part of the road—in the direction in which vehicles could lawfully travel on that part of the road.
Note
Marked lane is defined in the dictionary.
(3) If the road is a two-way road, the driver must position the vehicle parallel, and as near as practicable, to the far left side of the road.
Note
Two-way road is defined in the dictionary.
(4) If the road is a one-way road, the driver must position the vehicle parallel, and as near as practicable, to the far left or far right side of the road, unless otherwise indicated by information on or with a parking control sign.
Note
One-way road, parking control sign and with are defined in the dictionary.
(5) If the driver does not park in a parking bay, the driver must position the vehicle at least 1 metre from the closest point of any vehicle in front of it and any vehicle behind it.
Note
Parking bay is defined in the dictionary.
(6) If the road has a continuous dividing line or a dividing strip, the driver must position the vehicle at least 3 metres from the continuous dividing line or dividing strip, unless otherwise indicated by information on or with a parking control sign.
Note
Dividing line and dividing strip are defined in the dictionary.
(7) If the road does not have a continuous dividing line or a dividing strip, the driver must position the vehicle so there is at least 3 metres of the road alongside the vehicle that is clear for other vehicles to pass, unless otherwise indicated by information on or with a parking control sign.
(8) The driver must position the vehicle so the vehicle does not unreasonably obstruct the path of other vehicles or pedestrians.
(9) This rule does not apply to—
(a) a driver if the driver parks on a length of road, or in an area, to which a parking control sign or road marking applies, and information on or with the sign or road marking includes the words "angle parking" or "angle"; or
(b) the rider of a motor bike if the rider parks the motor bike on a length of road, or in an area, to which a permissive parking sign applies and the sign indicates that the length of road or area is for parking motor bikes.
Notes
1 Motor bike and road marking are defined in the dictionary.
2 Division 9 deals with angle parking.
(10) Subrules (3) and (4) do not apply to the rider of a motor bike if the rider positions the motor bike so at least 1 wheel is as near as practicable to the far left or far right side of the road.
(11) If a road has or more service roads, the part of the road used by the main body of moving vehicles, and each service road, is taken to be a separate road for this rule.
Note
Part of the road used by the main body of moving vehicles
and service road are defined in the dictionary.
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My son was booked in a (very) back street of Annerley in Brisbane one night some years ago.
It was after 11pm and before about 7am. He was up visiting his Aunt while we were still living in Sydney.