Post by: i30premy on April 04, 2017, 21:59:41
As some of you are aware, an invitation to a couple of group members was offered recently to attend the HMCA dealer launch of the new 2017 i30 at the new Sydney International Convention Centre.
This is just a short quick overview - we'll get into the details in a follwing post.
Trevor (@Surferdude) & I attended yesterday along with Justin from Hy.life forum (Veloster). We were invited by Oliver (HMCA Dir Marketing) & our host for the day was Bill (General Manager External Affairs).
Trevor & Justin were flown by HMCA & being a local I just caught the bus :undecided:
It was a full on organised gig and aimed at giving the dealer network an overview of the new i30's features, we were put into smaller groups for various sessions. Felt a bit strange being the odd guys out in a sales orientated enviroment.
We had a video team that were allocated a bit of time to take pics/video of us occasionally - we will have the files in a few days when it gets processed & sent.
The day started with an a/v preso in the theatre section, an intro by HCMA CEO Jung Wook Lee & after a short video the cars appeared on stage.
We all had the opprortunity for a short test drive, unfortunately it was only 5 min loop around the Pyrmont area with a 50km/h speed limit. I had a diesel auto active? very pleasnt to drive, very quiet (but then only doing max 50).
The new car is packed with safety & techo features, we were supposed to get a full list but something got missed so I'll start with what I can remember - I'm sure Trevor can add his details.
Some of the of the simple stuff:
Wireless phone charging & an alert if you happen to leave phone in car.
Adaptive Cruise Control
Reminder to take a break after 5? hours - although if car senses erratic driving it will decrease this time.
Lane change assistance
Obstical reversing sensor - if you happen to park in a car park & don't have clear vision when reversing out between 2 large cars, it can alert if any cars/pedestrians are approaching
Lane guidance correction.
GPS in all models.
FYI - an few of my pics here: :link: Hyundai PD2017 - Google Photos (https://goo.gl/photos/WXJBERfDNSS4gJAN6)
As mentioned, we will be supplied more detail from our host in the coming days.
Post by: Dazzler on April 04, 2017, 22:28:32
Post by: mickd on April 04, 2017, 23:16:46
Good to see the forum has such a degree of respect for an invitation to be issued .
(hope that makes sense - gunna be one of those days 👎)
Post by: CraigB on April 05, 2017, 05:16:47
I wonder if they added the surfboard just for Trev :workitout:
Post by: i30premy on April 05, 2017, 07:46:04
Looks like a good day :goodjob2: the snacks on the table would have distracted me from the vehicles :) so what are the final decisions on the models and engines we'll be getting here?
I wonder if they added the surfboard just for Trev :workitout:
I've just added a few more pics to the album link above from yesterday, I took them from the slides that were on the screen in our "classes" - some are reasonable & others blurry. You might be able to make out a bit more detail.
The car with the surfboard was just accesoried up to show what was available
Post by: eye30 on April 05, 2017, 08:28:44
Post by: Dazzler on April 05, 2017, 08:55:19
Post by: CraigB on April 05, 2017, 08:58:55
works for me via tapatalk Lester...And for me in the Edge browser.
Post by: Shambles on April 05, 2017, 09:23:12
Quote from: eye30
Not opening for me
Time you ditched that nanny "security" BT software you've got installed - more trouble than it's worth.
Post by: asathorny on April 05, 2017, 09:30:51
Post by: cruiserfied on April 05, 2017, 09:36:04
My mentor and reason for success Mr Peter Quinn front and centre presenting.
Post by: Doggie 1 on April 05, 2017, 10:50:33
Post by: The Gonz on April 05, 2017, 11:00:52
Post by: Surferdude on April 05, 2017, 11:04:02
Not opening for me either. It shows my Google account but there's just a Join button. Am I supposed to join in order to see the images? :confused:Mine does the same thing but then just opens automatically.
Yaaay for Edge. :happydance:
Post by: Surferdude on April 05, 2017, 11:09:57
Looks like a decent presentation.He was an excellent presenter, obviously knew his stuff and communicated it well. And threw in just the right amount of humour to keep everyone interested.
My mentor and reason for success Mr Peter Quinn front and centre presenting.
He's an obvious asset to Hyundai Australia.
Post by: CraigB on April 05, 2017, 11:18:00
Not opening for me either. It shows my Google account but there's just a Join button. Am I supposed to join in order to see the images? :confused:No Google here Gonz so shouldn't be any need to join.
Post by: The Gonz on April 05, 2017, 11:24:53
Post by: Surferdude on April 05, 2017, 11:26:56
However, while I collate these (and try to decipher my shorthand - read "scrawl"), let me contribute a few general thoughts.
When you have a successful product, it is always going to be difficult to top it come time for replacement.
Hyundai seems to have hit a home run with the PD. Billed as "new from the ground up", the PD would seem to meet this description in every way.
New engines, new technology (heaps of it), an even stronger body shell (which incorporates about 1 tonne of Australian iron ore into EACH car), and a rather pleasing-on-the-eye body shape. They have taken the strengths of the FD and GD and just kept adding to them.
The front on view is probably much better in the flesh than in photos, and I'd suggest you wait until you've seen a few of them before you form an opinion. It is a very pleasant car to look at.
One more point comes to mind. I read somewhere some criticism (or at least somewhat negative comment) about the positioning of the touch screen which whilst centre mounted, sits out form the main line of the dash and at least in photos, gives the impression it might intrude in the driver's road vision. It doesn't. In fact, I reckon it's perfectly placed. I made the comment during our test drive and later, when Justin from "Hy.Life" was driving, he agreed with me.
We expect to see more information in the next few days, including pricing etc. As that all filters through I'll add it in here, so keep checking back.
Post by: Doggie 1 on April 05, 2017, 11:34:26
Does Doggie 1 get a doggie bag? :undecided:
Post by: Phil №❶ on April 05, 2017, 11:34:50
Post by: Surferdude on April 05, 2017, 11:58:43
Thanks Trev!No.
Does Doggie 1 get a doggie bag? :undecided:
Post by: Doggie 1 on April 05, 2017, 12:03:46
Thanks Trev!No.
Does Doggie 1 get a doggie bag? :undecided:
:disapp: :disapp:
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:Ouch:
:wait:
Post by: cruiserfied on April 05, 2017, 12:30:14
Looks like a decent presentation.He was an excellent presenter, obviously knew his stuff and communicated it well. And threw in just the right amount of humour to keep everyone interested.
My mentor and reason for success Mr Peter Quinn front and centre presenting.
He's an obvious asset to Hyundai Australia.
I expect nothing less from him. And yes he is a huge asset to HMCA.
Glad you like the PD, I get my first look on Friday :)
Post by: CraigB on April 05, 2017, 13:09:27
One more point comes to mind. I read somewhere some criticism (or at least somewhat negative comment) about the positioning of the touch screen which whilst centre mounted, sits out form the main line of the dash and at least in photos, gives the impression it might intrude in the driver's road vision. It doesn't. In fact, I reckon it's perfectly placed. I made the comment during our test drive and later, when Justin from "Hy.Life" was driving, he agreed with me.I know I've commented on the touch screen before, wasn't regarding blocking view though as that would be a huge design fault, I was more concerned with how it sticks out from the dash which looks very unappealing to me, another concern of mine would be how long the touch screen is going to last in Australian summers now that it isn't protected underneath the dash :undecided: electronics and sunlight/heat don't mix well.
Post by: eye30 on April 05, 2017, 13:11:56
Not opening for me
Now on the PC and I can see the light....... Great pics. thanks.....
Post by: elantraelite on April 05, 2017, 13:18:07
280kw AWD sounds like the perfect replacement for the FD wagon!
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Post by: Asterix on April 05, 2017, 16:11:13
I've read that the lower trim levels won't have the screen at all, very curious as to how the dashboard layout will be then
I remember being skeptical when Hy contacted the forum, that it would only be a PR stunt. Happy to be proven wrong and :goodjob: to Hyundai Australia for involving the end users.
Post by: Surferdude on April 05, 2017, 19:35:50
Any mention of the i30RN?i30N.
280kw AWD sounds like the perfect replacement for the FD wagon!
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Yep. But if I told you I'd have to kill you.
Watch this space.
Post by: Dazzler on April 05, 2017, 22:17:07
Post by: Surferdude on April 06, 2017, 03:14:22
:link: Next Generation i30 - Hyundai Australia (http://www.hyundai.com.au/cars/small-cars/next-gen-i30/next-generation-i30)
Post by: tohis on April 06, 2017, 07:42:01
I've read that the lower trim levels won't have the screen at all, very curious as to how the dashboard layout will be then
All of them have a screen, but a smaller one. The lowest version has a 5" black&white screen without touch controls, and the middle version is also 5" but with color and touch controls. These systems are described in the owners manual, from pages 4-9 and 4-42, respectively.
The top model with 8" screen and navigation is not described in that manual however, only mentioned that there will be a separate manual for it.
Post by: Lyricold on April 06, 2017, 11:05:22
Post by: constipated on April 06, 2017, 23:13:36
It looks like the autonomous emergency braking works at both high and low speed and has pedestrian detection.
One disappointing feature seems to be that the new turbo engine still doesn't appear as efficient as some other manufacturers such as Volkswagen.
Post by: Surferdude on April 07, 2017, 05:10:17
Some really good information from the slides. It appears that most models will get a full range of active safety features and that this will make Hyundai a leader in the budget car segment in terms of safety features. Not many cars which would have active cruise control in most of the range at this price segment. Not to mention the other features such as blind spot monitor and rear cross traffic alert.Yep.
It looks like the autonomous emergency braking works at both high and low speed and has pedestrian detection.
One disappointing feature seems to be that the new turbo engine still doesn't appear as efficient as some other manufacturers such as Volkswagen.
I agree it appears most if not all models get the full range of safety features. Certainly nothing I heard suggested otherwise, however I was in information overload most of the day so we probably need to wait for confirmation of this. I also (but could be mistaken here) believe all Oz models get the full 8" screen.
Not sure what you mean about the less efficient turbo engine. But I guess it depends how the two stack up price wise.
Post by: constipated on April 07, 2017, 05:17:29
Post by: Surferdude on April 07, 2017, 05:27:54
By efficient I mean output in terms of fuel economy. Golf GTI has combined fuel economy of 6.2 manual and 6.6 DSG. From the slides it seemed like Hyundai's turbo engine would be around 7.7L/100km.Fair comment.
I wonder if the power outputs are the same? I haven't looked at Neville's pics closely yet.
Also, I probably shouldn't say this but VW has "history" in this area. :mrgreen:
Post by: Surferdude on April 07, 2017, 06:14:15
Spectacular to say the least.
They'll make a big impact, introducing the rejuvenated i30. Look for plenty of screen time as the Hyundai A-League wraps up in the coming weeks. Then Australian journos will get their hands on the test cars shortly after. I may have missed it but I'm not sure they announced an actual launch date to the market. Should see it before the end of the financial year, though.
Hyundai Australia has done a good job with it's introduction to dealers. A video about billycart racing kids and their use of innovative ideas to get ahead.
This was followed by a brief but highly attractive preview of the i30N.
Some older information including speculation on the Hot Hatch's introduction into Australia. I've highlighted the interesting bits but can't confirm any of the proposed technical specs. Might not be too far away now, though. :goodjob2:
(click to show/hide)
The entry level price will surprise some (maybe many).
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I got to drive the Premium and should get some footage of that in due course. Darling Harbour precincts, around near the Fish Markets and under the ANZAC Bridge doesn't promote anything like a full test, but it was really more about sitting in the car, soaking up the ambience and getting a feel for the seating, driving position and controls.
I'm 6'2" in the old money and was totally comfortable with more than adequate leg room and a relaxed grip n the leather wheel. As I said elsewhere, the 8" screen, centre mounted appears fully functional and falls easily into the eyesight. Someone has queried how the electronics in this will stand up to the direct heat from the Australian sun. Actually I reckon it'll be OK. The fact that it's set out from the dash means it's not as exposed as some units I've seen mounted in cars quite high up and probably more exposed. Certainly my old TomTom which is dash mounted has exhibited no issues from living directly in the sun, even having survived a trip to and from Darwin. Whilst there's obviously much more technology hidden in the i30 unit, Hyundai would be aware of the requirements in this area.
A couple of interesting facts came out during the day.
*Hyundai Australia has sold more than 254,000 i30s since it's introduction in 2007, until March 2017. Which apparently makes us Hyundai's largest volume i30 market in the world. In South Korea for instance, apparently they have a preference for sedans.
* One tonne of Australian iron ore is used in the construction of the high impact steel used in EVERY i30. Apparently there is only a few weeks turnaround from the ore leaving Australia for South Korea, before it returns in a completed car.
* There is also evidence the i30 has replaced the Corolla at the top of the resale value tree.
Closing off for now. More to follow.
Post by: Surferdude on April 07, 2017, 07:25:51
I've earlier commented on the placement of the screen. I don't like the look of it, but when seated in the car it's placed perfect for view and use.If my memory serves me correctly, the "Active" won't have the 8" screen initially but I'm sure they suggested it would become standard even on that model before long. Initially there's a smaller screen in the "Active" but missing the fancy Driver Assist technology.
I've read that the lower trim levels won't have the screen at all, very curious as to how the dashboard layout will be then
I remember being skeptical when Hy contacted the forum, that it would only be a PR stunt. Happy to be proven wrong and :goodjob: to Hyundai Australia for involving the end users.
Post by: cruiserfied on April 07, 2017, 09:45:47
Completely in love with this car.
Post by: Aussie Keith on April 08, 2017, 09:33:10
Post by: cruiserfied on April 08, 2017, 10:23:43
Thanks for the news. Looks like a good time was had. I'm afraid the pictures of the car I have seen have left me uninspired, I am hoping it has more appeal in real life.
I was reserved about the front end going off the pictures. Very happy to say it looks so much better in person. Couple of pictures but nothing much.
(http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo271/cruiserfied/image.jpg) (http://s383.photobucket.com/user/cruiserfied/media/image.jpg.html)
(http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo271/cruiserfied/image_2.jpg) (http://s383.photobucket.com/user/cruiserfied/media/image_2.jpg.html)
Post by: beerman on April 08, 2017, 11:03:57
Still can't see why they don't use the 1.7 in the i40.... What a rocket that would be :happydance:
Post by: Asterix on April 08, 2017, 11:18:01
Has Crdi become 1.6D?
Still can't see why they don't use the 1.7 in the i40.... What a rocket that would be :happydance:
Only if you use high powered one. The base model i40 comes with the 1,7 CRDi 115 HP/280Nm which is exactly same output as the 1,6 in the i30. Only difference is the 1,7 have the torque available from 1250 revs, the 1,6 is from 1500...
But, agree, the 1,7 140HP/340Nm would be very nice in the i30... :mrgreen:
Post by: wbm00 on April 10, 2017, 01:02:56
Noticed the slide comparing GD vs PD - luggage 378 to 395 litres. Is this at the expense of the spare wheel, I wonder? In the UK the S (base spec) has a tyre repair kit as standard, in lieu of a spare wheel.
Post by: Surferdude on April 10, 2017, 03:51:54
Looks like a nice event and glad you enjoyed it :goodjob:Good pick up.
Noticed the slide comparing GD vs PD - luggage 378 to 395 litres. Is this at the expense of the spare wheel, I wonder? In the UK the S (base spec) has a tyre repair kit as standard, in lieu of a spare wheel.
The answer is no. But that requires some more information which I had intended posting today.
See below but be aware there may be differences between here and the UK.
Post by: Surferdude on April 10, 2017, 04:04:53
Since the FD came on the market Australian technicians have been testing and modifying the suspension to suit Australian conditions.
In the case if the PD, there were 416 DIFFERENT combinations tried and tested before the final results were incorporated in the Korean made cars for Australia.
To break this down a bit.
There are three major considerations.
1/ The base model which comes with the normal rear suspension set up.
2/ The diesel engine models where the extra weight of the engine is taken into consideration (a BIG plus, this and one we've speculated on in the past. It's nice to have our suspicions confirmed).
3/ The Premium and SR Premium which come with IRS. This later means that, in order to maintain the boot space, a temporary spare is supplied. So, no loss of the 395 litres capacity (that's pretty much room for four MORE 5 litre tubs of ice cream. :goodjob2:)
However, Garry Jones. one of their technical people told me that he's had a look and reckons you can still fit a full sized spare into the well. It would just reduce the useable boot space. The new cars come with 16", 17" and 18" alloys.
So, the good news is, no BMW/Mini style inflator kit. (which would be bloody useless after taking the sidewall out of your tyre in one of Australia's notorious potholes).
Post by: stewy76 on April 13, 2017, 22:56:39
Post by: stewy76 on April 13, 2017, 23:18:08
The entry level price will surprise some (maybe many).
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Any idea of what prices can be expected across all new models
Post by: Surferdude on April 14, 2017, 02:02:56
The entry level price will surprise some (maybe many).
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Any idea of what prices can be expected across all new models
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Yes.
But I (seriously) can't tell you yet.
I was asked to not pass it on until Hyundai announces it.
Post by: Surferdude on April 14, 2017, 02:05:03
Will the new i30 have wireless CarPlayI believe so.
I assume you mean Google Car Play/ Android Auto.
Post by: beerman on April 14, 2017, 02:08:01
Does it have rear air vents?????
Post by: beerman on April 14, 2017, 02:10:32
Yes.
The entry level price will surprise some (maybe many).
ACTIVE ELITE PREMIUM SR SR PREMIUM
Any idea of what prices can be expected across all new models
But I (seriously) can't tell you yet.
I was asked to not pass it on until Hyundai announces it.
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Will it be a happy surprise, or will we be gasping in shock??
In reality I would be shocked if any Hyundai sold anywhere close to the RRP.... That said it does seem silly to have Kia and Hyundai competing at the $19,990 price tag. It is forcing the Kias down a couple of grand.
Post by: Surferdude on April 14, 2017, 02:17:11
Yes.
The entry level price will surprise some (maybe many).
ACTIVE ELITE PREMIUM SR SR PREMIUM
Any idea of what prices can be expected across all new models
But I (seriously) can't tell you yet.
I was asked to not pass it on until Hyundai announces it.
Will it be a happy surprise, or will we be gasping in shock??
In reality I would be shocked if any Hyundai sold anywhere close to the RRP.... That said it does seem silly to have Kia and Hyundai competing at the $19,990 price tag. It is forcing the Kias down a couple of grand.
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The entry level price stuck in my head because it was so good (IMHO). Not being familiar with the other models current pricing they didn't stick but the progression seemed logical.
And I get your point about the RRP. It's been my observation that you can generally get an i30 at "about" the RRP, but with all on-roads included and sometimes a bit more.
So, if the projected entry level price becomes the on-road price, (probably once the new model attraction has worn off), then :goodjob2:
Post by: Surferdude on April 14, 2017, 02:18:50
Now for the question that all motoring journalists will ask......In one of the break out rooms they had a current Corolla and Mazda 3 for comparison. I heard some of the dealer attendees commenting that at least one of them lacked rear air vents, so I'm guessing, "yes".
Does it have rear air vents?????
Post by: beerman on April 14, 2017, 02:21:35
They obviously don't have kids, the i40 has air vents in the rear, and all the little buggers do is play with them.....Can't reach them with your hands? thats what feet are for :crazy1:
Post by: Surferdude on April 14, 2017, 02:26:43
What completly useless thing will they pick on now.....Interesting.
They obviously don't have kids, the i40 has air vents in the rear, and all the little buggers do is play with them.....Can't reach them with your hands? thats what feet are for :crazy1:
My Subarus had rear air vents. Well "outlets". They were under the front seats and directed cool air into the rear footwells. Controlled from the dash IIRC. Nothing for the kids to reach.
Post by: CraigB on April 14, 2017, 03:53:24
Don't all the GD's have vents under the front seats directed into the rear footwells :undecided: mine has them.What completly useless thing will they pick on now.....Interesting.
They obviously don't have kids, the i40 has air vents in the rear, and all the little buggers do is play with them.....Can't reach them with your hands? thats what feet are for :crazy1:
My Subarus had rear air vents. Well "outlets". They were under the front seats and directed cool air into the rear footwells. Controlled from the dash IIRC. Nothing for the kids to reach.
Post by: beerman on April 14, 2017, 06:21:57
not good enough for the motoring writers though because it was a consistent in the 'cons' when reviewed
Post by: The Gonz on April 14, 2017, 06:29:31
Post by: Dazzler on April 14, 2017, 07:33:28
Well I'll be blowed! I never knew the FD has rear vents! :Shocked:
Sounds like Trevor didn't either..
I think most fairly recent cars have some air directed under the seats into the back. I seem to recall our Getz and previous Pulsars and Tiida did (but when you change cars as often as
Post by: Surferdude on April 14, 2017, 08:10:33
Yeah. I did.Well I'll be blowed! I never knew the FD has rear vents! :Shocked:
Sounds like Trevor didn't either..
I think most fairly recent cars have some air directed under the seats into the back. I seem to recall our Getz and previous Pulsars and Tiida did (but when you change cars as often asAlanwe do, they all get scrambled...)
But I was making the point that they've been around for a long time.
However, it would seem the current crop of journos expect full on, adjustable vents, just so beerman' kids can play with them. ::happydance:
Post by: Shambles on April 14, 2017, 09:40:34
Post by: Surferdude on April 14, 2017, 09:54:54
The PD that I checked out last week had twin rear adjustable vents, just below knee level.Yep. The PD certainly has them.
Post by: Doggie 1 on April 14, 2017, 10:52:38
Post by: The Gonz on April 14, 2017, 11:17:34
Post by: stewy76 on April 14, 2017, 23:41:24
Will the new i30 have wireless CarPlay
I assume you mean Google Car Play/ Android Auto.
I mean wireless using Apple CarPlay
Post by: joebris on April 17, 2017, 00:45:15
Post by: Surferdude on April 17, 2017, 06:21:47
thanks for the thread, from what I can see in the photos the SR is only in an Auto? can anyone confirmI didn't see anything to suggest that, but I'm waiting on some more detailed documentation.
In the meantime, @cruiserfied might be able to confirm or deny.
Post by: joebris on April 17, 2017, 06:49:52
:fum:
I know I'm in the minority but have always enjoyed driving a stick, tempted if the turbo petrol comes with one, otherwise may have to end up with the elantra sr
Post by: CraigB on April 17, 2017, 07:13:13
(http://i.imgur.com/qbuEpy4.jpg)
Post by: joebris on April 17, 2017, 09:08:48
Premium petrol and SR model only comes with 7DCT, diesel and Active models get a manual option.cheers Craig, a bit disappointing I guess have to wait for the i30N :goodjob2: surly that will have the manual option
Post by: CraigB on April 17, 2017, 09:41:03
I would imagine so if they're doing it as a proper sport vehicle, they might still have an auto option for the non purists :head_knock: :DPremium petrol and SR model only comes with 7DCT, diesel and Active models get a manual option.cheers Craig, a bit disappointing I guess have to wait for the i30N :goodjob2: surly that will have the manual option
Post by: The Gonz on April 17, 2017, 09:43:43
Post by: Shambles on April 17, 2017, 10:44:10
Off-Topic:Quote from: The Gonz
Still haven't found those rear air vents in Firty. :(
Under the front seats - they're "Y" shaped
You may find a flap has fallen down covering them - just needs pushing back up. Had to do that on Fergie many times.
Post by: Dazzler on April 17, 2017, 10:50:07
Quote from: The GonzStill haven't found those rear air vents in Firty. :(
Under the front seats - they're "Y" shaped
You may find a flap has fallen down covering them - just needs pushing back up. Had to do that on Fergie many times.
Just be aware it can be a bit hard to find the flaps in the dark..
Post by: The Gonz on April 17, 2017, 10:52:20
Just be aware it can be a bit hard to find the flaps in the dark..:Shocked: :TutTut:
Post by: Dazzler on April 17, 2017, 11:02:45
Post by: cruiserfied on April 17, 2017, 15:37:16
thanks for the thread, from what I can see in the photos the SR is only in an Auto? can anyone confirmI didn't see anything to suggest that, but I'm waiting on some more detailed documentation.
In the meantime, @cruiserfied might be able to confirm or deny.
Premium petrol and SR model only comes with 7DCT, diesel and Active models get a manual option.
(http://i.imgur.com/qbuEpy4.jpg)
To my knowledge the SR was definitely getting Auto (DCT or traditional I can't recall) and Manual and SR premium was at first only getting Auto but Manual has since been included.
I will double check my info tomorrow and get back to you.
Post by: CraigB on April 17, 2017, 16:59:22
Post by: beerman on April 18, 2017, 00:00:36
I don't know much about the maintence side though.
Post by: Surferdude on April 18, 2017, 00:21:35
There dosen't seem to be many issues with the DCT. They have had them in a number of cars now without issue.The HMCA guys explained it in detail, including why it's better than the VW type.
I don't know much about the maintence side though.
But I agree you need to understand them before you drive one.
"Creeping" in traffic can have a similar detrimental effect to riding the clutch and result in overheating, if I understood what they were saying.
Post by: Surferdude on April 18, 2017, 01:04:32
I doesn't project backwards from the dash like the i30 but it sits up in the sun the same.
(http://i.imgur.com/E2IoK5T.jpg)
Post by: cruiserfied on April 18, 2017, 01:20:37
Traditional auto and MT behind 1.6P and 2.0P.
This applies to Australia only. Information may differ at final release. Other markets may be the same or different.
Post by: joebris on April 18, 2017, 08:40:02
DCT and MT will run behind the 1.6T and 1.6CRDi.
Traditional auto and MT behind 1.6P and 2.0P.
This applies to Australia only. Information may differ at final release. Other markets may be the same or different.
Thanks Cruiserfied, 1.6T with a 6MT :happydance:
Post by: cruiserfied on April 18, 2017, 10:54:30
DCT and MT will run behind the 1.6T and 1.6CRDi.
Traditional auto and MT behind 1.6P and 2.0P.
This applies to Australia only. Information may differ at final release. Other markets may be the same or different.
Thanks Cruiserfied, 1.6T with a 6MT :happydance:
Hells yeah!!!
I've driven the same package in the Veloster and Elantra SR's. They break in after 4-5000km's and as long as your reasonable with your expectations they are very fun to drive.
Post by: joebris on April 18, 2017, 11:13:25
DCT and MT will run behind the 1.6T and 1.6CRDi.
Traditional auto and MT behind 1.6P and 2.0P.
This applies to Australia only. Information may differ at final release. Other markets may be the same or different.
Thanks Cruiserfied, 1.6T with a 6MT :happydance:
Hells yeah!!!
I've driven the same package in the Veloster and Elantra SR's. They break in after 4-5000km's and as long as your reasonable with your expectations they are very fun to drive.
I have read on Veloster and Elantra SR's forums some concerns regarding low speed pre-ignition in these donks,
Anything to be concern about or mindful of?
Post by: cruiserfied on April 18, 2017, 12:00:27
DCT and MT will run behind the 1.6T and 1.6CRDi.
Traditional auto and MT behind 1.6P and 2.0P.
This applies to Australia only. Information may differ at final release. Other markets may be the same or different.
Thanks Cruiserfied, 1.6T with a 6MT :happydance:
Hells yeah!!!
I've driven the same package in the Veloster and Elantra SR's. They break in after 4-5000km's and as long as your reasonable with your expectations they are very fun to drive.
I have read on Veloster and Elantra SR's forums some concerns regarding low speed pre-ignition in these donks,
Anything to be concern about or mindful of?
Not something i have heard. Probably running E10 or something. I know they say E10 compatible but i wouldn't run anything less than 95. Heck i won't even run E10 or 91 in my Jeeps.
Post by: joebris on April 19, 2017, 07:11:53
Post by: Dazzler on April 19, 2017, 07:36:33
Hyundai web has been updated today :link: Reinvented i30 - Hyundai Australia (http://www.hyundai.com.au/cars/small-cars/reinvented-i30/reinvented-i30)
Thanks for that! If you click through to the pricing still showing the GD models and pricing although on average $3500 discount + $2000 Gift card!
Post by: tortoise128 on April 19, 2017, 14:33:49
Post by: Surferdude on April 19, 2017, 21:29:20
Thanks for the great post. Any word on the release date to dealers?The A league finals start this weekend.
Watch for the advert. Entertainment in itself and maybe a date.
Post by: ferous on April 20, 2017, 00:46:44
Post by: Dazzler on April 20, 2017, 01:43:46
got told by the dealer that the i30 will be out from next week and thinks that it will start at $22,000 for the manual active and $2000 more for manual. active X is dropped
:welcumwagon: Thanks for that (I'm guessing it's $2000 more for the Auto?) I do typos like that all the time... :goodjob2:
Post by: Surferdude on April 20, 2017, 04:43:41
Be interesting to see how that pans out.got told by the dealer that the i30 will be out from next week and thinks that it will start at $22,000 for the manual active and $2000 more for manual. active X is dropped
:welcumwagon: Thanks for that (I'm guessing it's $2000 more for the Auto?) I do typos like that all the time... :goodjob2:
About $1000 more than I was told.
Post by: Lyricold on April 20, 2017, 06:04:30
I30 Elite White with optional roof - John @ Doncaster Hyundai, tell him Norman with the i20 sent you, if your interested :)
Seams a nice car, i felt that the roof was a little lower then the previous model, but maybe that was because of the roof, took it on the freeway, drove like a big car, and the lane departure system works great!. The smart cruse control is also amazing, I really like it.
But then john told me the prices .. . A Premium diesel is the same price as the SR Premium and came to a total cost of $39,090 and when I asked for $5,000 off her laughed at me .. .
But overall a nice upgrade from the GD model, will be interesting too see how popular it is with the pricing, I should think Hyundai will adjust the prices in a couple of months, or i hope anyway..
Post by: mickd on April 20, 2017, 06:21:57
Does that make our $21350 09/16 Active X a collecter ? ? :)
Post by: joebris on April 20, 2017, 08:49:37
:link: 2017 Hyundai i30 pricing and specs: All-new hatch promises top value (http://www.caradvice.com.au/544202/2017-hyundai-i30-pricing-and-specs-all-new-hatch-promises-top-value/)
Post by: pidim on April 20, 2017, 10:05:26
A large 8-inch display with rear-view camera, integrated satellite navigation, Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, and DAB+ digital radio, 16-inch alloy wheels, LED daytime lights and automatic headlights, hill-start assist and a tyre-pressure monitoring system.
Post by: Surferdude on April 20, 2017, 13:06:32
what we have been waiting for, very surprisedIve been out today but that arrived in my email marked confidential for internal and dealer use only.
:link: 2017 Hyundai i30 pricing and specs: All-new hatch promises top value (http://www.caradvice.com.au/544202/2017-hyundai-i30-pricing-and-specs-all-new-hatch-promises-top-value/)
However, it shoots down that $39000 price quoted above.
Now, wait for the high impact advertisement on TV.
Post by: cruiserfied on April 20, 2017, 13:22:11
what we have been waiting for, very surprisedIve been out today but that arrived in my email marked confidential for internal and dealer use only.
:link: 2017 Hyundai i30 pricing and specs: All-new hatch promises top value (http://www.caradvice.com.au/544202/2017-hyundai-i30-pricing-and-specs-all-new-hatch-promises-top-value/)
However, it shoots down that $39000 price quoted above.
Now, wait for the high impact advertisement on TV.
Yeah i was shocked at the claimed $39000 price at first, but that would be drive-away price. The prices in the link are before on-roads which are around $5000.
I am surprised to hear that the dealer is already showing the car. Thought the release was May.
Post by: Lyricold on April 20, 2017, 13:34:02
Post by: cruiserfied on April 20, 2017, 13:40:34
I was expecting not much over $35,000 imo that's good value, but $39,000 is to much, my guess is that because Doncaster Hyundai is the dealer in Victoria to get one in the show room, they will adjust the pricing the suit them. He told me the Active is $25,000 on road and a Elite is $34,000, with the Premium matching the SR premiums price of $39,000 - including metallic paint too.
To be honest $39000 is a good deal for the Diesel Premium, the GD is $35000. Did they explain how much you actually get in the PD? Cause its ALOT.
Doncaster can't really set their own pricing, you can go on Hyundai Australia website and do a drive-away quote in 20sec, although the PD isn't in the calculator yet.
Post by: Lyricold on April 20, 2017, 14:31:12
Post by: cruiserfied on April 20, 2017, 15:20:59
Post by: CraigB on April 20, 2017, 16:09:45
And the Elite model needs to have the 1.4 t engine option added, because the step up from Active to Elite is too much.That's why they have the SR :)
Post by: Surferdude on April 21, 2017, 08:53:06
I've been away in Brisbane.
This is the actual text from Bill Thomas' email to Neville and me.
I thought both were confidential but the press release obviously isn't.
However, I also have the Product Bulletin which is 25 pages long in a PDF. As that's intended for dealer internal use only, maybe It's best if I just try to answer questions from its contents as the need arises.
Dear Justin, Trevor and Neville,
Please excuse the delay getting this material to you.
Please find attached the press release we issued to media earlier today about the new i30, along with an internal product bulletin with full details on the car. Please don’t forward that bulletin on to anyone, it’s supposed to be for internal use!
Below, please find images from the day from Lisa at Tonic, along with links to other material.
Great meeting you on the day, hope to see you again at some point in the future.
Kind regards,
BT
Post by: Doggie 1 on April 21, 2017, 09:20:51
Post by: beerman on April 21, 2017, 12:56:30
After cleaning out the Wife's i30, I had forgotten just how bad it is :whistler:
Post by: Surferdude on April 21, 2017, 13:11:52
Have they replaced the carpet with something better?I don't know.
After cleaning out the Wife's i30, I had forgotten just how bad it is :whistler:
I'm ambivalent about car carpets so I didn't pay any attention to it.
Post by: joebris on April 21, 2017, 23:56:36
Post by: joebris on April 25, 2017, 05:44:15
First impression, well to be honest a little disappointing, it's possible that I have gotten a little over excited about the new model and the styling has not blown me away. It's not ugly at all, I do like the front end and the wheels are very nice.
The PDs sitting there amongst at the GDs I could not help think " boy Hyundai really did a good job on the styling of the GDs."
GD's styling certainly aggressive and the PD a bit meh. I'm sure the new PD will grow on me but maybe more of a reason to wait for the n, which I'm sure will have an aggressive look.
Post by: Surferdude on April 25, 2017, 08:13:07
Post by: Dazzler on April 25, 2017, 09:58:53
Post by: cruiserfied on April 25, 2017, 11:14:19
Post by: Surferdude on April 27, 2017, 02:11:39
Can't find a copy to link here but the new ad is getting plenty of airtime this week.Thanks for the great post. Any word on the release date to dealers?The A league finals start this weekend.
Watch for the advert. Entertainment in itself and maybe a date.
Post by: Dazzler on April 27, 2017, 05:35:20
Post by: CraigB on April 27, 2017, 05:40:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rli___ti--s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rli___ti--s)
Post by: Dazzler on April 27, 2017, 10:08:55
I went into Motors Hyundai today to check out the PD. But they still don't have any! :fum:
Got 5 different models coming and a launch event earmarked for 19th May (including a driving simulator) I might have to copy their software for ours! :whistler:
Post by: CraigB on April 27, 2017, 10:14:43
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krlXzul0haM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krlXzul0haM)
Post by: eye30 on April 27, 2017, 10:26:45
Ads on uk tv alsoCan't find a copy to link here but the new ad is getting plenty of airtime this week.Thanks for the great post. Any word on the release date to dealers?The A league finals start this weekend.
Watch for the advert. Entertainment in itself and maybe a date.
Post by: joebris on April 27, 2017, 12:21:03
Had a brief glimpse over a PD yesterday in the showroom at Rockinghamand your opinion Craig?
Post by: CraigB on April 27, 2017, 13:41:20
Looks from the outside is ok though a bit plain, I couldn't see what the rear looked as they had the hatch up, windows were up so didn't really get a great look inside as you couldn't get closer than a metre with the rope around it :rolleyes:Had a brief glimpse over a PD yesterday in the showroom at Rockinghamand your opinion Craig?
I've seen it all in the pictures everyone has posted and they pretty much represent what I saw.
Post by: stewy76 on May 02, 2017, 10:44:59
Anyone know whether hyundai dealers are or will be offering 10 year free life time map updates for GPS in the new i30.
Not 100% sure whether I have this correct in my mind. So please do correct me if I'm wrong.
Thanks
Post by: CraigB on May 02, 2017, 10:58:34
Hi There.Unless they have a new policy I'd expect it to be similar to the previous GD model which received 3 years free updates, and they're always a year behind other systems such as Garmin-Tomtom-Metroview
Anyone know whether hyundai dealers are or will be offering 10 year free life time map updates for GPS in the new i30.
Not 100% sure whether I have this correct in my mind. So please do correct me if I'm wrong.
Thanks
As mentioned in another thread map updates are now free for 10 years :)
Post by: joebris on May 05, 2017, 08:33:54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-FNyA4vllI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-FNyA4vllI)
Post by: CraigB on May 05, 2017, 09:02:24
Post by: Doggie 1 on May 05, 2017, 09:47:11
Interesting comments re the DCT and also DPFs on diesels.... :sicky:
Post by: Dazzler on May 05, 2017, 10:24:21
I sat in and looked at two PD's at Agfest (Huge agricultural festival in Tasmania with over 700 exhibitors)
A basic dark grey model and the SR pictured below. I think they look better in the flesh particularly in that nice red colour.
I was generally impressed (and I'm not easily impressed these days) I quite like the interior of the SR with the sporty seats and the red highlights.
(http://i.imgur.com/KVsCoX8.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/WAWha3k.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/c8Mrb5z.jpg)
Post by: cruiserfied on May 05, 2017, 16:12:18
One thing I instantly disliked was the SR alloys with the large centre cap. Don't like it at all.
Post by: Dazzler on May 05, 2017, 16:30:38
@Dazzler I found the same. I was worried I wasn't going to like the look of the front end after all the pictures but was more that surprised at how damn sexy it really is in person. Was never worried about the rear.
One thing I instantly disliked was the SR alloys with the large centre cap. Don't like it at all.
Gee, what are you doing up at this crazy hour @cruiserfied :crazy1: :snigger:
Funny, I didn't notice how large the centre caps were until you said. I don't mind the wheels and ironically I don't think Trish is convinced about the new styling from what she saw in my photos (she didn't go with me today) but she said, "I like the wheels" :D
Post by: CraigB on May 05, 2017, 17:15:24
Dazz, what's the little gold hatch in the background?
Post by: Dazzler on May 05, 2017, 17:19:28
I didn't notice the wheels either 🙃 Not keen on the centre caps myself😒
Dazz, what's the little gold hatch in the background?
Not sure Craig, a Barina maybe (Motors does Holdens too..)
Post by: cruiserfied on May 05, 2017, 22:21:35
@Dazzler I found the same. I was worried I wasn't going to like the look of the front end after all the pictures but was more that surprised at how damn sexy it really is in person. Was never worried about the rear.
One thing I instantly disliked was the SR alloys with the large centre cap. Don't like it at all.
Gee, what are you doing up at this crazy hour @cruiserfied :crazy1: :snigger:
Funny, I didn't notice how large the centre caps were until you said. I don't mind the wheels and ironically I don't think Trish is convinced about the new styling from what she saw in my photos (she didn't go with me today) but she said, "I like the wheels" :D
I like the wheel itself, just not the centre. First SR I get on my hoist I'm going to pop the cap off and see what's underneath lol.
Post by: Dazzler on May 05, 2017, 22:47:27
@Dazzler I found the same. I was worried I wasn't going to like the look of the front end after all the pictures but was more that surprised at how damn sexy it really is in person. Was never worried about the rear.
One thing I instantly disliked was the SR alloys with the large centre cap. Don't like it at all.
Gee, what are you doing up at this crazy hour @cruiserfied :crazy1: :snigger:
Funny, I didn't notice how large the centre caps were until you said. I don't mind the wheels and ironically I don't think Trish is convinced about the new styling from what she saw in my photos (she didn't go with me today) but she said, "I like the wheels" :D
I like the wheel itself, just not the centre. First SR I get on my hoist I'm going to pop the cap off and see what's underneath lol.
If we ever got one I guess it wouldn't be a huge job to spray the caps to match the wheel colour. :goodjob:
Post by: cruiserfied on May 05, 2017, 23:03:56
@Dazzler I found the same. I was worried I wasn't going to like the look of the front end after all the pictures but was more that surprised at how damn sexy it really is in person. Was never worried about the rear.
One thing I instantly disliked was the SR alloys with the large centre cap. Don't like it at all.
Gee, what are you doing up at this crazy hour @cruiserfied :crazy1: :snigger:
Funny, I didn't notice how large the centre caps were until you said. I don't mind the wheels and ironically I don't think Trish is convinced about the new styling from what she saw in my photos (she didn't go with me today) but she said, "I like the wheels" :D
I like the wheel itself, just not the centre. First SR I get on my hoist I'm going to pop the cap off and see what's underneath lol.
If we ever got one I guess it wouldn't be a huge job to spray the caps to match the wheel colour. :goodjob:
Yeah I had that thought too, or spray the rim to match the cap :razz:
Actually no, I hate factory rims repainted, always look cheap.
Post by: Dazzler on May 05, 2017, 23:27:58
@Dazzler I found the same. I was worried I wasn't going to like the look of the front end after all the pictures but was more that surprised at how damn sexy it really is in person. Was never worried about the rear.
One thing I instantly disliked was the SR alloys with the large centre cap. Don't like it at all.
Gee, what are you doing up at this crazy hour @cruiserfied :crazy1: :snigger:
Funny, I didn't notice how large the centre caps were until you said. I don't mind the wheels and ironically I don't think Trish is convinced about the new styling from what she saw in my photos (she didn't go with me today) but she said, "I like the wheels" :D
I like the wheel itself, just not the centre. First SR I get on my hoist I'm going to pop the cap off and see what's underneath lol.
If we ever got one I guess it wouldn't be a huge job to spray the caps to match the wheel colour. :goodjob:
Yeah I had that thought too, or spray the rim to match the cap :razz:
Actually no, I hate factory rims repainted, always look cheap.
..and I hate the trend for black wheels (sorry Craig) I think it's an age thing... :undecided:
Post by: mickd on May 05, 2017, 23:28:12
the wheels on the barina are better - suppose its a matter of do you like shiney or matt,
l like the red. 👍👍.Something to check out in 4 1/2 years time .
Post by: Dazzler on May 05, 2017, 23:35:38
Something to check out in 4 1/2 years time .
They might be releasing the VD by then...
Post by: CraigB on May 06, 2017, 00:37:04
I don't mind Dazz, I don't expect everyone to have good taste like me :wink:
..and I hate the trend for black wheels (sorry Craig) I think it's an age thing... :undecided:
Post by: mickd on May 06, 2017, 01:54:32
Something to check out in 4 1/2 years time .
They might be releasing the VD by then...
Or the last PD 's :lol:
Post by: beerman on May 06, 2017, 08:39:17
Post by: Phil №❶ on May 06, 2017, 08:41:43
Post by: elantraelite on May 06, 2017, 13:12:43
Unbelievable drive. The Active is value packed. We're looking at the i30 SR with the DCT... Awesome transmission that is seriously smooth and fun to drive.
The tech package it class leading and kill absolutely leave the Corolla, 3 and Astra tailing well behind.
The i30 is definitely a competitor against the Golf. Outstanding car.
Our only issue is we love the Elantra SR, I have a big soft spot for sedans.
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Post by: cruiserfied on May 06, 2017, 14:19:25
With our FD getting into an accident the other week. We test drove the new i30... I thought the GD was an excellent car, but Hyundai have mailed it yet again!
Unbelievable drive. The Active is value packed. We're looking at the i30 SR with the DCT... Awesome transmission that is seriously smooth and fun to drive.
The tech package it class leading and kill absolutely leave the Corolla, 3 and Astra tailing well behind.
The i30 is definitely a competitor against the Golf. Outstanding car.
Our only issue is we love the Elantra SR, I have a big soft spot for sedans.
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With your history of vehicles its no surprise you like the Elantra.
Have you driven the I30 SR or Elantra SR? The independent rear really adds to the handling dynamic.
Post by: elantraelite on May 06, 2017, 14:37:14
We thought the Elantra Elite was nice, but then we drove the SR and was like driving a completely different car. Loved everything about it. The interior and exterior are spot on.
The i30 SR was brilliant as well, the tech being a big selling point.
I think while the i30 SR has great tech, it does miss out on the heated seats, LED head lights and sunroof as standard. If we're spending 30k and wanting to keep the car for a good 5 years +, I reckon the Elantra will be more enjoyable.
Hyundai has done a great job on these two cars.
Once we get the i30 wagon back we'll sell it off and stick with the one car for a few months before make the plunge.
Cruiserfied, do you know of any updates to the Elantra SR in the next couple of months? I'm wondering if they will make a few tweaks to the specs to bring it inline with the i30...
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Post by: CraigB on May 06, 2017, 15:21:51
Post by: cruiserfied on May 06, 2017, 15:35:18
We went back to the dealership we bought the Santa Fe from the other month. He was great and let us drive the Elantra Elite, Elantra SR, i30 SR and i30 Elite.
We thought the Elantra Elite was nice, but then we drove the SR and was like driving a completely different car. Loved everything about it. The interior and exterior are spot on.
The i30 SR was brilliant as well, the tech being a big selling point.
I think while the i30 SR has great tech, it does miss out on the heated seats, LED head lights and sunroof as standard. If we're spending 30k and wanting to keep the car for a good 5 years +, I reckon the Elantra will be more enjoyable.
Hyundai has done a great job on these two cars.
Once we get the i30 wagon back we'll sell it off and stick with the one car for a few months before make the plunge.
Cruiserfied, do you know of any updates to the Elantra SR in the next couple of months? I'm wondering if they will make a few tweaks to the specs to bring it inline with the i30...
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To be honest i haven't compared the two on paper and still have not driven a PD at all. Been way too busy at work to sneak off in the demo but will definitely have to try this week.
Post by: elantraelite on May 06, 2017, 21:48:50
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Post by: Dazzler on May 06, 2017, 21:55:55
Wonder how people will go with the 5000km servicing on the petrol turbos. There could be a lot of neglected i30's in the future:Shocked:
That's crazy. I thought they were 7500 at one stage but assumed they'd gone to at least 10K now... 5k definitely wouldn't suit me (that's around 5 services a year versus 1 and a half in my current car and most non-turbo Hyundais) :crazy1:
@CraigB Thanks for the brochure link. :goodjob:
Post by: elantraelite on May 06, 2017, 22:44:59
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Post by: Dazzler on May 06, 2017, 23:07:12
Interesting that the serice intervals on the petrol turbo is now 10,000km... I could have sworn I saw 5000km on the Veloster and Elantra.... I'll have to get ony desktop PC and have a look. Hyundai's servicing website doesn't work on tablets and phones properly
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Just trying to find the service intervals on their website (they make it so hard, but so do other brands with shorter service intervals like Honda and Mazda) If it's 12 months or 15K (or more) then it's easy to find because it's a selling point! :rolleyes:
I actually found it easier to just look at specs in car sales... 10K (still prefer 15K myself)
https://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/details/Hyundai-i30-2017/OAG-AD-14635358/?Cr=0 (https://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/details/Hyundai-i30-2017/OAG-AD-14635358/?Cr=0)
Post by: bowski on May 07, 2017, 02:08:53
Post by: Dazzler on May 07, 2017, 04:17:57
Yep 10K for the turbo
Thanks, better than 7,500 which I think the Veloster was/is...
Post by: beerman on May 07, 2017, 07:58:22
Shame the DPF has appeared on the diesel i30, I had assumed we would avoid that again. Not a huge issue for me, but the good wife does not go far enough to keep a DPF alive.
Post by: cruiserfied on May 08, 2017, 16:08:47
5k servicing? the oil would barley be warm.
Shame the DPF has appeared on the diesel i30, I had assumed we would avoid that again. Not a huge issue for me, but the good wife does not go far enough to keep a DPF alive.
Considering we are now at Euro5 and will be Euro6 by the end of the year there's no way around it.
You all stress way too much on DPF's and the PD is pretty trick because it will do burns more often and more efficiently than even.
In my time I've replaced 2 DPF's. Both purely because they services at a repco or ultratune and they put basic Diesel oil in them not the C3 rated stuff.
Post by: beerman on May 09, 2017, 05:11:44
5k servicing? the oil would barley be warm.
Shame the DPF has appeared on the diesel i30, I had assumed we would avoid that again. Not a huge issue for me, but the good wife does not go far enough to keep a DPF alive.
Considering we are now at Euro5 and will be Euro6 by the end of the year there's no way around it.
You all stress way too much on DPF's and the PD is pretty trick because it will do burns more often and more efficiently than even.
In my time I've replaced 2 DPF's. Both purely because they services at a repco or ultratune and they put basic Diesel oil in them not the C3 rated stuff.
Like the battery in Hybrid car argument?
Do they have a switch to do a burn? Would be handy if you knew you were going to do a reasonable trip to let the car know.
With the i40 there is no light or way of knowing when it is going, reset the fuel economy gage the other week and saw one happen on the way home, I was surprised by how long it went on for.
Post by: elantraelite on May 12, 2017, 22:16:15
Beerman, you say there is no lights that appear when a regen cycle to being done on your i40?5k servicing? the oil would barley be warm.
Shame the DPF has appeared on the diesel i30, I had assumed we would avoid that again. Not a huge issue for me, but the good wife does not go far enough to keep a DPF alive.
Considering we are now at Euro5 and will be Euro6 by the end of the year there's no way around it.
You all stress way too much on DPF's and the PD is pretty trick because it will do burns more often and more efficiently than even.
In my time I've replaced 2 DPF's. Both purely because they services at a repco or ultratune and they put basic Diesel oil in them not the C3 rated stuff.
Like the battery in Hybrid car argument?
Do they have a switch to do a burn? Would be handy if you knew you were going to do a reasonable trip to let the car know.
With the i40 there is no light or way of knowing when it is going, reset the fuel economy gage the other week and saw one happen on the way home, I was surprised by how long it went on for.
Our new Santa Fe has some suspicious fuel line that looks like it goes to the exhaust, but I have never seen it do a regen cycle. Could it have a DPF?
One thing that really stood out to me when driving the PD diesel with the DCT was how much engine vibration there was.
I'd say it was equivalent to the FD. Our GD had far less cabin vibration.
One a side note. The Navigation system in the PD is awesome!
I loved how it has that airplane cabinet announcement tone before the navigation says something, the rear speakers continue to play music while the front speakers ones tell you the directions.
The system even displays the weather and continuously changes as you drive through different suburbs.
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Post by: Dazzler on May 12, 2017, 22:25:42
Post by: beerman on May 13, 2017, 01:54:43
Post by: cruiserfied on May 16, 2017, 14:48:15
Beerman, you say there is no lights that appear when a regen cycle to being done on your i40?5k servicing? the oil would barley be warm.
Shame the DPF has appeared on the diesel i30, I had assumed we would avoid that again. Not a huge issue for me, but the good wife does not go far enough to keep a DPF alive.
Considering we are now at Euro5 and will be Euro6 by the end of the year there's no way around it.
You all stress way too much on DPF's and the PD is pretty trick because it will do burns more often and more efficiently than even.
In my time I've replaced 2 DPF's. Both purely because they services at a repco or ultratune and they put basic Diesel oil in them not the C3 rated stuff.
Like the battery in Hybrid car argument?
Do they have a switch to do a burn? Would be handy if you knew you were going to do a reasonable trip to let the car know.
With the i40 there is no light or way of knowing when it is going, reset the fuel economy gage the other week and saw one happen on the way home, I was surprised by how long it went on for.
Our new Santa Fe has some suspicious fuel line that looks like it goes to the exhaust, but I have never seen it do a regen cycle. Could it have a DPF?
One thing that really stood out to me when driving the PD diesel with the DCT was how much engine vibration there was.
I'd say it was equivalent to the FD. Our GD had far less cabin vibration.
One a side note. The Navigation system in the PD is awesome!
I loved how it has that airplane cabinet announcement tone before the navigation says something, the rear speakers continue to play music while the front speakers ones tell you the directions.
The system even displays the weather and continuously changes as you drive through different suburbs.
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Santa Fe only had DPF in the very first Diesels and only with Auto transmissions. The 2.2R has never had a DPF in Australia. (The 2.0R in the IX35 has always had a DPF though)
Post by: elantraelite on May 16, 2017, 22:25:04
Thanks cruiserfied!Beerman, you say there is no lights that appear when a regen cycle to being done on your i40?5k servicing? the oil would barley be warm.
Shame the DPF has appeared on the diesel i30, I had assumed we would avoid that again. Not a huge issue for me, but the good wife does not go far enough to keep a DPF alive.
Considering we are now at Euro5 and will be Euro6 by the end of the year there's no way around it.
You all stress way too much on DPF's and the PD is pretty trick because it will do burns more often and more efficiently than even.
In my time I've replaced 2 DPF's. Both purely because they services at a repco or ultratune and they put basic Diesel oil in them not the C3 rated stuff.
Like the battery in Hybrid car argument?
Do they have a switch to do a burn? Would be handy if you knew you were going to do a reasonable trip to let the car know.
With the i40 there is no light or way of knowing when it is going, reset the fuel economy gage the other week and saw one happen on the way home, I was surprised by how long it went on for.
Our new Santa Fe has some suspicious fuel line that looks like it goes to the exhaust, but I have never seen it do a regen cycle. Could it have a DPF?
One thing that really stood out to me when driving the PD diesel with the DCT was how much engine vibration there was.
I'd say it was equivalent to the FD. Our GD had far less cabin vibration.
One a side note. The Navigation system in the PD is awesome!
I loved how it has that airplane cabinet announcement tone before the navigation says something, the rear speakers continue to play music while the front speakers ones tell you the directions.
The system even displays the weather and continuously changes as you drive through different suburbs.
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Santa Fe only had DPF in the very first Diesels and only with Auto transmissions. The 2.2R has never had a DPF in Australia. (The 2.0R in the IX35 has always had a DPF though)
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Post by: Dazzler on May 16, 2017, 22:47:50
Post by: Dazzler on May 17, 2017, 20:51:36
The guys at Motors Hyundai Devonport are going to send me some pictures and video to post on here later. In the mean time I took a couple of picture yesterday of a White SR Premium (very nice) and a Black Active? they have on display. Hadn't seen a black or a white PD in the flesh before.
(http://i.imgur.com/2quHbZ5.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/3hDu2rB.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/U2tePGv.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Uzccfnw.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/iXymrV8.jpg)
Post by: beerman on May 19, 2017, 23:39:48
At first glance looks more upmarket than the one it replaces.
Post by: cruiserfied on May 22, 2017, 10:06:36
Post by: Dazzler on May 22, 2017, 10:19:28
Post by: stewy76 on May 29, 2017, 11:31:49
Post by: abl on July 03, 2017, 11:42:57