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MODIFYING OR DETAILING YOUR I30 => TYRES | WHEELS | BRAKES => Topic started by: wobblefry on January 03, 2015, 22:31:01

Title: Spare tyre
Post by: wobblefry on January 03, 2015, 22:31:01
Looking 2 get a alloy wheel as my spare instead of a space saver tyre how best way to go about this
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: asathorny on January 03, 2015, 22:48:27
Looking 2 get a alloy wheel as my spare instead of a space saver tyre how best way to go about this

Scrap yard  :Shocked: :Shocked: :Shocked:
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: wobblefry on January 03, 2015, 22:49:45
I know that just wondering that's all
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: asathorny on January 03, 2015, 22:54:07
I know that just wondering that's all

That would be my first call....    :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob:

In fact, I may be tempted myself now   :victory:
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: FatBoy on January 03, 2015, 22:56:12
eBay may be another option?
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: wobblefry on January 03, 2015, 22:56:26
Don't think space savers are any gd tbh just pointless in fact
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: Phil №❶ on January 03, 2015, 23:03:27
Better than nothing  :exclaim:
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: asathorny on January 03, 2015, 23:12:06
Don't think space savers are any gd tbh just pointless in fact

I will add credence to your statement, over the few months leading up to Christmas I had FOUR punctures (paranoia ran rampant).

On one occasion I was obliged to call the RAC to do the wheel change.   I had to sign my life away that I would not exceed 50MPH and would get it change for a REAL wheel ASAP. 

So, the real wheels is the thing to have  :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob:
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: wobblefry on January 03, 2015, 23:14:23
I don't know y they ever put them in new cars tbh when there is room 4 a proper 1
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: Phil №❶ on January 03, 2015, 23:15:01
Cost & weight.
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: eye30 on January 04, 2015, 00:31:44
Just think some marques have no spare but a can of gooooooooooooo
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: Surferdude on January 04, 2015, 02:01:14
Cost & weight.
Weight maybe, Phil. But check out the price of a replacement space saver tyre. Even at OE prices, the relative lack of numbers manufactured plus the need for them to be strengthened to do the job, they're expensive.
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: Phil №❶ on January 04, 2015, 02:08:54
I may be wrong on both counts. Our full size spare on an alloy, doesn't weigh that much.  :undecided:
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: Surferdude on January 04, 2015, 02:17:37
I may be wrong on both counts. Our full size spare on an alloy, doesn't weigh that much.  :undecided:
I replaced the space saver in my Impreza with an alloy wheel and the difference wasn't noticeable either, although I never actually weighed them.
I can tell you that in the tyre industry we never really got a logical reason for the space savers.
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: diablo on January 04, 2015, 03:03:08
I always assumed that the manufacturers cut every ounce they could from the standard spec so that the CO2 emissions would be lower. In many countries this results in lower taxes being paid per year - which of course could affect sales.

I dunno if I could have asked for a full size spare when I bought the car - never occurred to me at the time - though have had no reason to use the skinny one yet. :)
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: CraigB on January 04, 2015, 05:56:17
When I sold/replaced my wheels recently I managed to get a brand new OEM black wheel from Hyundai for $80, they had 9 or so wheels in stock and said they're usually $300 but because we have lots he'll give me one for a hundred then I said how about $80 and they said no problem :D

The standard steel OEM wheels are much lighter than the alloys ( nearly half the weight ) which is why I wanted one of those for a spare

I rang a few wreckers who wanted $120 for a space saver and $160 for an standard OEM :disapp:
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: Surferdude on January 04, 2015, 06:19:40
When I sold/replaced my wheels recently I managed to get a brand new OEM black wheel from Hyundai for $80, they had 9 or so wheels in stock and said they're usually $300 but because we have lots he'll give me one for a hundred then I said how about $80 and they said no problem :D

The standard steel OEM wheels are much lighter than the alloys ( nearly half the weight ) which is why I wanted one of those for a spare

I rang a few wreckers who wanted $120 for a space saver and $160 for an standard OEM :disapp:
I've got 4 standard black wheels in my shed. They're definitely heavier than my alloys.
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: CraigB on January 04, 2015, 06:25:57
The factory Alloys I sold to Dave were quite heavy, much more than the factory black steel rim I got from Hyundai, and the factory alloys are roughly 1.5 kg's heavier each than the OX rims I have now.
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: Dazzler on January 04, 2015, 06:52:59
The factory Alloys I sold to Dave were quite heavy, much more than the factory black steel rim I got from Hyundai, and the factory alloys are roughly 1.5 kg's heavier each than the OX rims I have now.

Trish got a full size Alloy spare in her Tourer, did you only get a space saver in the SE Craig? 
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: CraigB on January 04, 2015, 06:55:46
No I had the alloy spare as well, but I sold that to Dave as a set.
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: paul on January 04, 2015, 06:57:39
I have replaced mine in my 2010 car and it lifts the boot floor about 25mm, but its ok.
In my 2013 estate model it's impossible because of the big plastic trays under the boot floor.

Btw, I have 4  brand new hyundai steel rims
£20 each but must be collected from nr brighton.
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: cruiserfied on January 04, 2015, 08:36:41
My theory as to why they use space savers was exactly what their name says.
Less tyre more luggage space which a lot of people look at on paper when comparing cars to buy.
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: wobblefry on January 04, 2015, 11:21:50
But if u had an option I wouldn't think a prober spare tyre is better
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: Surferdude on January 04, 2015, 11:22:34
My theory as to why they use space savers was exactly what their name says.
Less tyre more luggage space which a lot of people look at on paper when comparing cars to buy.
mostly true cruiser. But there's an awful lot of cars out there which can fit a full sized spare in where the space saver lives. Which is of course,  crazy.
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: wobblefry on January 04, 2015, 11:24:56
My hyundai i30 has space where the space saver is
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: Doggie 1 on January 04, 2015, 11:25:18
My theory as to why they use space savers was exactly what their name says.
Less tyre more luggage space which a lot of people look at on paper when comparing cars to buy.
mostly true cruiser. But there's an awful lot of cars out there which can fit a full sized spare in where the space saver lives. Which is of course,  crazy.

The early build GDs that came to Australia had space saver wheels/tyres in a spare wheel well that could accommodate a full size spare.
Mine included.
I've since replaced it with a full size alloy spare (thanks Craig  :D) and there's no loss of luggage space.
I believe it was merely a supply issue on the early cars.
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: cruiserfied on January 04, 2015, 11:26:11

But if u had an option I wouldn't think a prober spare tyre is better
My theory as to why they use space savers was exactly what their name says.
Less tyre more luggage space which a lot of people look at on paper when comparing cars to buy.
mostly true cruiser. But there's an awful lot of cars out there which can fit a full sized spare in where the space saver lives. Which is of course,  crazy.

Both very true.
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: wobblefry on January 04, 2015, 11:28:04
So looks like I am after a new alloy wheel cheers
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: Phil №❶ on January 04, 2015, 11:32:45
Well it's nice to know that should the spare be required, you can proceed to travel without any speed or distance restrictions, unlike the space saver.
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: wobblefry on January 04, 2015, 11:55:23
Very true
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: baroudeur on January 07, 2015, 14:22:32
I don't know y they ever put them in new cars tbh when there is room 4 a proper 1

There isn't enough depth in the FD boot well for a full size spare wheel which is ~ 80mm wider than the space saver wheel.. 

The Premium model with a 17" spare wheel has a false floor fitted to increase the well depth  by 100mm which also raises the boot floor height by the same amount.  The parts needed for the false floor cost over £300.

NB. The 205/55 x 16 wheel is ~ 20mm less wide than the 225/45 x 17
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: Surferdude on January 07, 2015, 17:17:12
I don't know y they ever put them in new cars tbh when there is room 4 a proper 1

There isn't enough depth in the FD boot well for a full size spare wheel which is ~ 80mm wider than the space saver wheel.. 

The Premium model with a 17" spare wheel has a false floor fitted to increase the well depth  by 100mm which also raises the boot floor height by the same amount.  The parts needed for the false floor cost over £300.

NB. The 205/55 x 16 wheel is ~ 20mm less wide than the 225/45 x 17
There is in our FDs.
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: asathorny on January 07, 2015, 18:08:57
Have ya bought one yet and for how much and where ???    :victory: :victory:
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: wobblefry on January 09, 2015, 00:11:34
Not yet been looking on ebay but mite go looking at scrap yards aswell
Title: Re: Spare tyre
Post by: baroudeur on January 09, 2015, 14:08:23
I don't know y they ever put them in new cars tbh when there is room 4 a proper 1

There isn't enough depth in the FD boot well for a full size spare wheel which is ~ 80mm wider than the space saver wheel.. 

The Premium model with a 17" spare wheel has a false floor fitted to increase the well depth  by 100mm which also raises the boot floor height by the same amount.  The parts needed for the false floor cost over £300.

NB. The 205/55 x 16 wheel is ~ 20mm less wide than the 225/45 x 17
There is in our FDs.

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