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MODIFYING OR DETAILING YOUR I30 => TYRES | WHEELS | BRAKES => Topic started by: rcflyers on April 05, 2018, 19:36:57
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I have a 2009 Hyundai i30 1.6 diesel.
I commute to work and back about 7 miles each way.
I have previously always fitted GoodYear Efficient grip tyres as they have a good balance of reasonable cost, fuel efficiency and low noise.
However, they don't seem to last as long as I think they should.
Am I better off going for really cheap tyres or something like Michelins that are reputed to last ages.
I certainly don't drive the car hard or fast so high speed cornering grip is not high on my list of requirements.
Thanks for any replies.
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I bought recently 4 tyres falken ziex ze310.
Price was much cheaper than michelin goodyear etc.
In autobuild test this year is in 3rd place. I found that the car is very stable now and has low tire noise in normal road.
I am satisfied till now. It is also in the sporty side and comfortable same time.
:link: 2018 Auto Bild 15 inch Summer Tyre Test - Tyre Reviews (http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2018-Auto-Bild-15-inch-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm)
:link: Falken Tyres | The Prestigious Title of ?Exemplary? for the FALKEN ZIEX ZE310 ECORUN in the big Autobild [a leading German automobile magazine] Summer Tyres (http://www.falkentyre.com/_ZE310engl2)
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@rcflyers
Don't buy a cheap brand. Go for something like Chris has recommended. A name brand at a cheaper price. You need good quality rubber under you for wet or emergency situations. :sweating:
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You don't say what distance is on your odometer.
Just be aware that as cars get older (not just mileage, but age), the suspension components wear marginally, allowing slightly more movement even when the alignment is set correctly. Rubber bushes deteriorate without becoming dangerous and this can detract from a tyre's life. So if you have reasonable mileage for a 2009 car, plus the age of the componentry, an increase in tyre wear is to be expected.
Having said all that, basically stick with a reasonably well known brand without going top of the range and you should be OK.
And make sure you get a good alignment including a rear check.
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Are you still on originals?
What are you on at present?
Which are you replacing?
Front only, rear only or all 4?
What mileage have you got from those you wish to replace?
I replaced my front only at 21k from hanooks, originals, with a brand call Davanti.
They got good reports and good ratings for wet grip etc.
They were about same price as the hanooks.
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I had a similar car for 8 years and 288,000 miles. Apart from one set of front tyres I stuck with Hankooks and was happy enough with them. They cost about £60 each and lasted well, typically 40,000 miles front and 120,000 rear. Most of my driving was long, gentle journeys.
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I have had our i30 1.6crdi for approx. 200 miles ( 2 weeks ) and it came with Pirelli p7 on the front and some strange brand on the rear I have never seen before.. I don't know if the car has had the tracking done or why the front tyres were changed but the steering is all over the place, not a confident drive at all..
I'm going to get the tracking checked does anyone know if it's 4 wheel alignment or two ?
Anyway, back to tyres.. as far as I see, it depends on weather you can change the tyres yourself or have a good relationship with a local fitter.. The tyres can be bought mail order at a discount on what they are available for at the fitters shop.. I have had some shockers but none that will kill you unless you think driving like Lewis Hamilton on £30 tyres but I have had some alarming slides on Pirelli, Avon, Continental and others.. I have also had some very short lived tyres also with the big brands.. I have been fitting elcheepo tyres for a while and have not had a bad one yet.. in fact for the money I am nothing but impressed reasonable tyres for bugger all money ?? Yes please..
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I've bought "quality" brand tyres every time. I think tyres are worst place to save money. I understand if you want to get cheap chinese tyres for a hobby car that you drive only few thousand km in a year. That is ok. But for daily driver I buy the best I can afford. I got old (hardened) tyres once with a car I bought. Plenty of thread but they were too old. Two times I went throught the red lights with locked wheels screeching. Luckily accidents did not happen. After I found out the make date of the tyres I went straight to the tyre shop and never had grip issues.
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My Diamondbacks are doing far better than the OEM tyres at half the price.
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My Diamondbacks are doing far better than the OEM tyres at half the price.
Crikey! Thought those Diamond Backs were in the $80-90 ball park?
Half the price of OEMs which were what , Hankooks?
So $170 / tyre?
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I just fitted 2 TOYO 205 55 R16 PROXES CF2 Made in Japan @ $87 each Fitted, Balanced and disposal on an easter Sale for TYRESALES. Currently $107
Compared to the Kumho Solus KH17 I grabbed @ $95 on sale, they are very impressively quiet and grippy in the wet, we'll see how they last
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Diamondbacks are made by the Triangle Tyre Company.
Just sayin' :crazy1:
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I think they were $70 fitted. Bargain! Go the Diamondbacks! :lol:
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I think they were $70 fitted. Bargain! Go the Diamondbacks! :lol:
Total commitment, gotta respect that. Stay away from Achilles also in that price bracket, 15000k and totally :Rubbish: :argh:
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TYRESALES NITTO NT830 205 55 R16 94W $105 , Made in Japan
Only complaint, not happy the build date is 3rd quarter 2015! Feedback left will reflect this
(https://cdn.tyroola.com/tyre/nitto/nt_830.jpg)
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TYRESALES NITTO NT830 205 55 R16 94W $105 , Made in Japan
Only complaint, not happy the build date is 3rd quarter 2015! Feedback left will reflect this
(https://cdn.tyroola.com/tyre/nitto/nt_830.jpg)
Quite unusual tread pattern! :cool:
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Owned by Toyo. :goodjob:
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Don't worry about build date, just means they'll last longer. :D
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Don't worry about build date, just means they'll last longer. :D
Provided they don't explode.
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Would "Nitrogen" fix that problem? ? , :rofl:
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Owned by Toyo. :goodjob:
Handy to know, Fulcrum's doing the final touches to sort out the tyre shredder,
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Ive always had a good run with Toy's and will be buying again once I decide on new rims.
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Ive always had a good run with Toy's and will be buying again once I decide on new rims.
It's interesting how people get a favourite and tend to stick with it. I'm a bit of a Michelin fan, but seldom keep my cars long enough to swap tyres. I'm fairly price driven, but like a name brand. Gone with Goodyear mostly in the last decade but will be looking for the quietest name brand when I replace the SR's tyres. Looking like i'll get at least 50K out of them so that's another 12 months i've got up my sleeve to decide. :Touch:
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Ive always had a good run with Toy's and will be buying again once I decide on new rims.
It's interesting how people get a favourite and tend to stick with it. I'm a bit of a Michelin fan, but seldom keep my cars long enough to swap tyres. I'm fairly price driven, but like a name brand. Gone with Goodyear mostly in the last decade but will be looking for the quietest name brand when I replace the SR's tyres. Looking like i'll get at least 50K out of them so that's another 12 months i've got up my sleeve to decide. :Touch:
I'm definitely price driven and also was a one brander , Bridgestone. that was after a bad Dunlop experience. So stayed away from anything Good Year, Dunlop or any affiliated business like Beurepaires etc that were owned by them.
after many years realised the Bridgestone RE92 had seen better days and were not great on a 3,5 V6 FWd, pretty poor actually, tried Good Assurance, they were great but wore quick, Bridgestone T001 also good again worn quick, Had TOYOs before Transas Teo also were good, Yoko blueearth AE50, great intil the end, Dunlops SP01 excelent and grippy , achilles ok but wore quick, Kumho KH17 ,ok but lack grip as they get on especially in the wet with the torque of the diesel can be a nightmare, TOYO proxes CF2 feeling great , as are the new Nittos, turn in is quite sharper.
I've had Bridgestone MY02 and they were good too.
I think if you are patient and keep looking you can get some high end tyres for little more.
Problem with tyres if you make a bad choice it's a long time you're stuck with it, so trust is important to me. Once you lose that it's hard to go back.
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Any one tried the Michelin Energy XM2 ? Jax tyres have them for $116 .
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Don't worry about build date, just means they'll last longer. :D
Oh, ha ha, just remember Diamonds aren't forever :disapp:
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Any one tried the Michelin Energy XM2 ? Jax tyres have them for $116 .
Is that quoted on the phone or online? I would say at that price grab them. never had Michelins but I'd expect them to be good. Looks like they are a $160 tyre
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Don't worry about build date, just means they'll last longer. :D
Provided they don't explode.
270KPH rating, I think I'm stretched getting to 180. They still look new and fresh but If I still have them in 3 years it'll be interesting.
I don't think there are any laws either covering the gae sold when new either
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Any one tried the Michelin Energy XM2 ? Jax tyres have them for $116 .
Is that quoted on the phone or online? I would say at that price grab them. never had Michelins but I'd expect them to be good. Looks like they are a $160 tyre
On the phone at my local Jax for two tyres. Trouble is I have still got heaps of tread left on my i30. Looked at the Michelin XM2 for my grandson but he decided to keep his noisy cheap tyres until they wear out. :undecided:
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Any one tried the Michelin Energy XM2 ? Jax tyres have them for $116 .
Is that quoted on the phone or online? I would say at that price grab them. never had Michelins but I'd expect them to be good. Looks like they are a $160 tyre
On the phone at my local Jax for two tyres. Trouble is I have still got heaps of tread left on my i30. Looked at the Michelin XM2 for my grandson but he decided to keep his noisy cheap tyres until they wear out. :undecided:
yeah and when you really need them, they'll be full price. Stay away from Bob Jane labelled garbage too.
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Lots of issues around age.
The attached article is good.
But don't be fooled into thinking it's only trailer tyres which are at risk.
As the article says, even Bridgestone puts a 5 year age limit it on its warranty.
I don't know if Goodyear Dunlop has introduced such a limit. At the time others were doing so, Goodyear management made a statement to the effect that they would never limit the warranty. However, lots of changes since then so they may well have.
The problem is that the older a tyre is, the less control you have over how it's been used or cared for. And very definitely, exposure to sunlight has a seriously detrimental effect on rubber and any other contents in a tyre.
:link: Check the age of your tyres for both car and trailer... it's vital | Practical Motoring (https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car-advice/check-age-of-tyres-vital/)
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Thanks Trev and everyone else for the feedback so far. Interesting thread. I'll try and make an educated decision with my next tyres, not that I've had any disasters so far. :cool:
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It's interesting how people get a favourite and tend to stick with it. I'm a bit of a Michelin fan, but seldom keep my cars long enough to swap tyres. I'm fairly price driven, but like a name brand. Gone with Goodyear mostly in the last decade but will be looking for the quietest name brand when I replace the SR's tyres. Looking like i'll get at least 50K out of them so that's another 12 months i've got up my sleeve to decide. :Touch:
Your tyres aren’t wearing well Dazz, they’re the same as my tyres and I’ll get at least 80k out of mine ( 45k already ), I guess all them twisting Tassie roads might add some early wear to them :undecided:
Michelin Sport 4 will be my next choice though, they’re quieter with much better stability and similar 80k lifespan.
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It's interesting how people get a favourite and tend to stick with it. I'm a bit of a Michelin fan, but seldom keep my cars long enough to swap tyres. I'm fairly price driven, but like a name brand. Gone with Goodyear mostly in the last decade but will be looking for the quietest name brand when I replace the SR's tyres. Looking like i'll get at least 50K out of them so that's another 12 months i've got up my sleeve to decide. :Touch:
Your tyres aren’t wearing well Dazz, they’re the same as my tyres and I’ll get at least 80k out of mine ( 45k already ), I guess all them twisting Tassie roads might add some early wear to them :undecided:
Michelin Sport 4 will be my next choice though, they’re quieter with much better stability and similar 80k lifespan.
I think they are the ones my M8 Dorian raves about. I might get 60K but lots of roundabouts down here and as you say winding roads...
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TYRESALES NITTO NT830 205 55 R16 94W $105 , Made in Japan
Only complaint, not happy the build date is 3rd quarter 2015! Feedback left will reflect this
(https://cdn.tyroola.com/tyre/nitto/nt_830.jpg)
Just lodged a product review on Tyresales with verification and something I've never seen but you get an offer to privately resolve or submit the review. I chose Private, see what comes of it. i like the tyres, not the issue , greater transparency needed on stock dates.
not expecting anything but I will make my point. How many people check the stock date when they get new tyres I wonder?
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That's interesting. I've posted quite a few reviews on Product reviews dot com, but most of them have been relatively positive.
I did post one about a transmission issue with my previous X300 John Deere mower and wonder if the local distributor read it, as they were quite helpful when i chewed their ear. They tried to fix it without much success and then gave me a fairly generous trade on a zero turn mower. :victory:
I like Product review and Trip Advisor. I am either number one or number two reviewer in Devonport for Trip advisor now (280 reviews) just waiting on a leaderboard update email. :fingers:
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That's interesting. I've posted quite a few reviews on Product reviews dot com, but most of them have been relatively positive.
I did post one about a transmission issue with my previous X300 John Deere mower and wonder if the local distributor read it, as they were quite helpful when i chewed their ear. They tried to fix it without much success and then gave me a fairly generous trade on a zero turn mower. :victory:
I like Product review and Trip Advisor. I am either number one or number two reviewer in Devonport for Trip advisor now (280 reviews) just waiting on a leaderboard update email. :fingers:
Imagine having all expenses paid just tripping around and submitting reviews :razz:
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That's interesting. I've posted quite a few reviews on Product reviews dot com, but most of them have been relatively positive.
I did post one about a transmission issue with my previous X300 John Deere mower and wonder if the local distributor read it, as they were quite helpful when i chewed their ear. They tried to fix it without much success and then gave me a fairly generous trade on a zero turn mower. :victory:
I like Product review and Trip Advisor. I am either number one or number two reviewer in Devonport for Trip advisor now (280 reviews) just waiting on a leaderboard update email. :fingers:
Imagine having all expenses paid just tripping around and submitting reviews :razz:
Yeah I'd love that! :mrgreen:
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That's interesting. I've posted quite a few reviews on Product reviews dot com, but most of them have been relatively positive.
I did post one about a transmission issue with my previous X300 John Deere mower and wonder if the local distributor read it, as they were quite helpful when i chewed their ear. They tried to fix it without much success and then gave me a fairly generous trade on a zero turn mower. :victory:
I like Product review and Trip Advisor. I am either number one or number two reviewer in Devonport for Trip advisor now (280 reviews) just waiting on a leaderboard update email. :fingers:
Imagine having all expenses paid just tripping around and submitting reviews :razz:
Yeah I'd love that! :mrgreen:
I'll drive :P
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That's interesting. I've posted quite a few reviews on Product reviews dot com, but most of them have been relatively positive.
I did post one about a transmission issue with my previous X300 John Deere mower and wonder if the local distributor read it, as they were quite helpful when i chewed their ear. They tried to fix it without much success and then gave me a fairly generous trade on a zero turn mower. :victory:
I like Product review and Trip Advisor. I am either number one or number two reviewer in Devonport for Trip advisor now (280 reviews) just waiting on a leaderboard update email. :fingers:
Imagine having all expenses paid just tripping around and submitting reviews :razz:
Yeah I'd love that! :mrgreen:
I'll drive :P
Maybe HA would lend us an i30N to drive around in. :mrgreen:
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:mrgreen: :happydance: :fingers:
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@Surferdude
looking for feedback.
REPLY from TYRESALES
or all of the world’s largest tyre manufacturers do not have a standard 5-year use by date and inform recommendations of when to replace your tyres after they've been fitted - not from a build date. It’s not uncommon for tyres to be several years old before they enter service, providing they are stored correctly - this should have no adverse impact on overall performance.
The serviceable life of a tyre is dependent upon many factors; it is impossible to predict this lifespan on calendar age alone as time does not cause tyres to deteriorate, but rather exposure to outside forces.
All Industry experts recommend to avoid hard braking, sharp turns, regularly check the tyre pressure, ensure your vehicle is not out of alignment and to use tyre products to slow down any environmental damage.
Because of the diverse opinions of all Industry experts, most of the tyre manufacturers have released technical bulletins on this topic to clarify these misconceptions. The consistent message is that consumers should consider changing tyres that are in service for ten years or more.The Tyre Industry Association (TIA) website in the US contains technical bulletins from the manufacturers under the Tire Service Life Recommendations section :link: Consumer Safety | TIRE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION (https://www.tireindustry.org/consumer-safety)
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Interesting.
I've just read the Goodyear and Michelin ones.
They seem to cover it reasonably well but I'll send a note off to my mate and get an update on Australian recommendations and warranty periods.
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Interesting.
I've just read the Goodyear and Michelin ones.
They seem to cover it reasonably well but I'll send a note off to my mate and get an update on Australian recommendations and warranty periods.
it's variable, some say nothing, some say 10 years max, transport and tyre stores think 5 - 6 years.
i've witnessed a Government truck fleet be reduced in useabilty to 80kph speed limits with 6 year old tyres
I have no doubt if stored perfectly it's probably not a huge issue but How can you tell?
I've never seen 3 year old tyres supplied or fitted before so it's quite unusual.
Interesting they headed dtraight to teh US standards. I think ours are more realistic at 6 and going on my 33+ years 6 years and often the tyres will be hard and have cracking. I know someone who had 7 years tyres on a caravan that exploded
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OK.
Goodyear (and I guess, Dunlop) is unchanged. So they've stuck to their promise to retain lifetime warranty (against manufacturing defects).
Therefore no issue if they sit around a while before fitting. However, both the warehouses and reputable dealers rotate stock on a FIFO basis.
Cooper is six years from the date of fitment which is also pretty fair.
I have to say i have always been aware of the dangers of damage to rubber in tyres through poor storage, bad stacking during transport and the effects of heats especially direct sunlight.
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I have to say i have always been aware of the dangers of damage to rubber in tyres through poor storage, bad stacking during transport and the effects of heats especially direct sunlight.
The effects of direct sunlight are a worry for people who park their cars outside in the sun for the life of the vehicle (for example, no garage) :undecided:
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I have to say i have always been aware of the dangers of damage to rubber in tyres through poor storage, bad stacking during transport and the effects of heats especially direct sunlight.
The effects of direct sunlight are a worry for people who park their cars outside in the sun for the life of the vehicle (for example, no garage) :undecided:
Probably not a major issue if the car is used regularly which would mean not all the tyre is constantly in the sunlight.
Trailers and vans which are parked for long periods are more at risk. Also, car tyres especially if the car is used regularly probably will wear out before any issues arise. Not so with trailers.
Incidentally, my reply from my mate came from a ship somewhere off the coast of Spain as he and his wife are cruising. The final destination is Norway. Gotta love modern technology. :goodjob2:
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I have to say i have always been aware of the dangers of damage to rubber in tyres through poor storage, bad stacking during transport and the effects of heats especially direct sunlight.
The effects of direct sunlight are a worry for people who park their cars outside in the sun for the life of the vehicle (for example, no garage) :undecided:
Probably not a major issue if the car is used regularly which would mean not all the tyre is constantly in the sunlight.
Trailers and vans which are parked for long periods are more at risk. Also, car tyres especially if the car is used regularly probably will wear out before any issues arise. Not so with trailers.
Incidentally, my reply from my mate came from a ship somewhere off the coast of Spain as he and his wife are cruising. The final destination is Norway. Gotta love modern technology. :goodjob2:
Does that mean he simply got tyred of Australia :rofl:
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:disapp:
He'll be baaaacckkk!
Wheely he will. :happydance:
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:disapp:
He'll be baaaacckkk!
Wheely he will. :happydance:
Probably feeling flat or a bit deflated
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:disapp:
He'll be baaaacckkk!
Wheely he will. :happydance:
Probably feeling flat or a bit deflated
Nah.
He'll be all pumped up to get back to work.
His employees will need to tread carefully around him though.
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:disapp:
He'll be baaaacckkk!
Wheely he will. :happydance:
Probably feeling flat or a bit deflated
Nah.
He'll be all pumped up to get back to work.
His employees will need to tread carefully around him though.
Or else what? he'll get his steel belts out?
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:disapp:
He'll be baaaacckkk!
Wheely he will. :happydance:
Probably feeling flat or a bit deflated
Nah.
He'll be all pumped up to get back to work.
His employees will need to tread carefully around him though.
Or else what? he'll get his steel belts out?
Nah.
He'll blow a valve.
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:rofl: :rofl:
Both of you are on fire lately :goodjob: :goodjob2:
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:rofl: :rofl:
Both of you are on fire lately :goodjob: :goodjob2:
Yeah! They're "Flamin'" hilarious.. boom, boom....
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:rofl: :rofl:
Both of you are on fire lately :goodjob: :goodjob2:
Yeah! They're "Flamin'" hilarious.. boom, boom....
I find this puts the flames out
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