[rustynutz]

And those owing fines for good measure lets suspend their licenses until the fees are paid. Muhahahaha.

'Tis already the case....

[Aussie Keith]

Not here in the north so far as I know. Should be though.

[rustynutz]

This is why I laugh when people welcome "big brother"......

They'll soon have the smile wiped off their face and change their opinion if they end up being monitored 24/7.....

We are monitored 24/7 already. Everything is recorded and with access to information, there is no problem reconstructing what anyone may have done at anytime in a day. Think about it, every phone call you make has a digital fingerprint, cellular calls have a geographic component that can be traced as well as the B end, photos you put on line have dates and times and increasingly geolocation info, every time you use a card to pay for something, every website you access is logged by your ISP, when you drive on toll roads your progress is tracked, CCTV in shops and public spaces monitor constantly, even something as mundane as facebook or other blogs provide information about a persons whereabouts and activities - need I go on?

There's no need to be paranoid about it. Not yet anyway.

Yeah, I realise all that but if the authorities acted on every indiscretion we made we'd be in deep poo....

[rustynutz]

Not here in the north so far as I know. Should be though.

https://www.sper.qld.gov.au/enforcement-actions/licence-suspension.php

[Aussie Keith]

Not here in the north so far as I know. Should be though.

https://www.sper.qld.gov.au/enforcement-actions/licence-suspension.php

That's good to know, thanks for sharing.

[Doggie 1]

The reason I bought it up originally was that, when I read that statement (In a run of eight parked cars, four are unregistered or owned by unlicensed drivers) to me, it was inferring that it was illegal to own a registered motor vehicle if you were unlicensed.

I see what you mean, but it's not what was meant.

In W.A. you can't renew licences if you have outstanding fines that have no arrangement to pay placed on them.

If you don't pay your fines over here, your driver's licence and vehicle licence will be suspended.

[eye30]

.......... it was inferring that it was illegal to own a registered motor vehicle if you were unlicensed.

not illegal in UK

[Doggie 1]

.......... it was inferring that it was illegal to own a registered motor vehicle if you were unlicensed.

not illegal in UK

Nor here 

[Shambles]

.......... it was inferring that it was illegal to own a registered motor vehicle if you were unlicensed.

not illegal in UK

Interesting.

Last year (or 2011?) it became illegal in the UK to store a privately owned vehicle on a public highway or private land unless it was insured. To get that insurance you have to be a licence owner. Does that not now make it illegal to own a car that's in view of the public unless the owner holds a valid licence ?

I might look further into that later (just going off memory).

[Just Rick]

This is why I laugh when people welcome "big brother"......

They'll soon have the smile wiped off their face and change their opinion if they end up being monitored 24/7.....

Sorry to say but indirectly we already have been for some years, internet, bank transactions, internet purchased, CCTV in most of our populated areas,just for example, you can not do anything in the Fremantle port area and some of the closer surrounding areas,without some one seeing it,believe me I have been caught,doing something I shouldn't have been doing(no not walking around with the best Friend out) everything we do these days,the information is available to someone, nine times out of ten someone we would really didn't want to have the info.

[eye30]

To get that insurance you have to be a licence owner.

not sure this is correct.

what about company cars, buses, lorries etc which are insured by the firm and not an individual who drives it.

be interested what you find out.

[rustynutz]

This is why I laugh when people welcome "big brother"......

They'll soon have the smile wiped off their face and change their opinion if they end up being monitored 24/7.....

Sorry to say but indirectly we already have been for some years, internet, bank transactions, internet purchased, CCTV in most of our populated areas,just for example, you can not do anything in the Fremantle port area and some of the closer surrounding areas,without some one seeing it,believe me I have been caught,doing something I shouldn't have been doing(no not walking around with the best Friend out) everything we do these days,the information is available to someone, nine times out of ten someone we would really didn't want to have the info.

Well aware of all that, Rick...which is why I wonder why people would want more of it.....

[Just Rick]

If he sits in the driver's seat and puts the key into the ignition he is deemed to be in control of the vehicle and commits an offence.

Yes I know, not only if someone hasn't a license, in my wilder days I used to like to socialise a little too much,now this was many many moons ago, Victoria, well lets just say I had a little to much to drink,and the smoking didn't help,Left a social gathering, not even I mile down the road, I had a vision of clarity which didn't happen to often those days.

So pulled into the water table well off the main road, jumped fell into the back seat, keys in pocket fell asleep to attempt to clear the head and WAS going to continue when a little better, well didn't get that much sleep, next thing I was dragged off to the lockup, up in front of the beak in the morning no charge laid but I did receive a fine for being in charge of a motor vehicle,their rationale was I had the keys in my pocket, I could of at any time put the keys in the ignition and driven away(bloody bone heads,I was passed out I wasn't going anywhere) then they followed that up with if I had thrown the keys out the window it would have been different,Say what didn't follow the logic on that one

[Doggie 1]

In WA, keys in pocket you wouldn't be charged in this day and age.
Keys in ignition you would.

[rustynutz]

[Shambles]

what about company cars, buses, lorries etc which are insured by the firm and not an individual who drives it.

I did say "privately owned vehicle"

[Just Rick]

To get that insurance you have to be a licence owner.

not sure this is correct.

what about company cars, buses, lorries etc which are insured by the firm and not an individual who drives it.

be interested what you find out.

I do know over here, if an offence is committed in a company, government vehicle and it is caught on camera of any sort and pursued,the government department or company is responsible for informing the authorities who was in charge of the vehicle,I haven't come across to many private companies who are willing to pay for their employers infringements,mind you I have heard of a couple of Government depts who will protect their staff,especially the higher up the ladder they are.I know in WA no hiding behind a company vehicle

[Doggie 1]

To get that insurance you have to be a licence owner.

not sure this is correct.

what about company cars, buses, lorries etc which are insured by the firm and not an individual who drives it.

be interested what you find out.

I do know over here, if an offence is committed in a company, government vehicle and it is caught on camera of any sort and pursued,the government department or company is responsible for informing the authorities who was in charge of the vehicle,I haven't come across to many private companies who are willing to pay for their employers infringements,mind you I have heard of a couple of Government depts who will protect their staff,especially the higher up the ladder they are.I know in WA no hiding behind a company vehicle

Yes, we have "owner onus" legislation which basically means you have to provide the details of any person who was driving the company vehicle, etc.
Failure to do so is an offence and results in a charge.

[Just Rick]

Yeah, I realise all that but if the authorities acted on every indiscretion we made we'd be in deep poo....

If the Authorities acted on far more indiscretions and started banging some heads,maybe we would have a lot less crime, far to many oxygen wasters in this world OMO, sorry call me arcaic, but there is an old saying "spare the rod, spoil the child" again I say far to many soft C*#ks and far to much political correctness these days. the way offenders get treated these days is a Joke, in and out of the prisons system, No I am far from the perfect citizen or driver, if I get upset for getting caught,I am upset with myself for being a Dickhead Tool in the first place, why get upset with the system and PPL who are just doing what they are paid to do, sorry break the law,if caught,build a bridge and get over it

[rustynutz]

If they did, Rick...we'd all be walking as none of us would have a licence for long...

[Just Rick]

If they did, Rick...we'd all be walking as none of us would have a licence for long...

There Ya Go, problem solved, safer roads NO death Toll, we can fix any problem, should call us the think tank 

[rustynutz]

I think the death toll is highly overrated anyhow... 

[eye30]

what about company cars, buses, lorries etc which are insured by the firm and not an individual who drives it.

I did say "privately owned vehicle"

So you did  , sorry.

I was reading on TT and with the small screen.......................

[eye30]

.......... it was inferring that it was illegal to own a registered motor vehicle if you were unlicensed.

not illegal in UK

Interesting.

Last year (or 2011?) it became illegal in the UK to store a privately owned vehicle on a public highway or private land unless it was insured. To get that insurance you have to be a licence owner. Does that not now make it illegal to own a car that's in view of the public unless the owner holds a valid licence ?

I might look further into that later (just going off memory).

Is this what you read?

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-insurance/uninsured-vehicles

if you’re the registered keeper of a vehicle it must be insured or declared as off the road (SORN).

It doesn’t matter who is driving the car - if you’re the registered keeper, you could get penalised.

[Phil №❶]

Little old South Australia has these cars too, 6 cars per second being snapped & checked. Going to be on our local "Today Tonight" TV show in about 13.5 hours, I believe. But we heard about it 1st, here though. 

[Dazzler]

Little old South Australia has these cars too, 6 cars per second being snapped & checked. Going to be on our local "Today Tonight" TV show in about 13.5 hours, I believe. But we heard about it 1st, here though. 

I might watch that on our VAST Satellite system if I can find it tonight. 

[Phil №❶]

18:30, Adelaide time Ch 7

[Dazzler]

18:30, Adelaide time Ch 7

Damn, I had a drink after work. Late home, so missed it