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MODIFYING OR DETAILING YOUR I30 => ELECTRICAL | ELECTRONIC | AUDIO => Topic started by: Catman1 on June 04, 2013, 04:51:09
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Hope this is in the right place, went to tack on to one of the old threads and it told me to consider starting a new one.
Anyway, just wondering how many owners that are running a Racechip Pro have played with the settings?
I had the opportunity in the past week to adjust the settings from the factory B-1 setting to D-1 setting as refered to as the first performance setting in the instruction manual.
Well it does make another noticeable difference. First thing I noticed was from cold start up and idle the engine was quieter and smoother. I let it idle / warm up (as I have alway done with turbo vehicles I have owned) and went for a spin around the block.
I noticed the engine now feels a lot stronger in the 1700 to 2500 rpm range (I rarely rev past 3000, no need too) and alot less gear changes needed around suburban streets. 2nd gear corners are now easily done in 3rd gear and pulls hard out of the corners. Have travelled about 500k's now with this setting and from full the fuel gauge is now sitting at half way. About exactly the same as with the previous setting.
If others could share what setting they are running and results would be appreciated. Or PM would be ok also.
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Catman 1,
I did not have a racechip pro but had another form of tunning chip installed in my i30CRDi up until today when it got written off (thankfully the tow truck driver is a mate of my old mans and took it out for me before it went to insuranc company)
Most of these chips including mine and yours have multiple setting which will adjust when the power upgrade will take effect, ie acceleration, high speeds mid-high ect or linear through out all.
When changed my setting to have maximum perfomance at mid-high speeds ( dont need the acceleration in the front wheel drive with that much torque) I, like you found that it was smoother at idle as well, although i found it smelt like it was running allot richer on start up then previously. Might just be me but i also felt at this setting it boosted a little earlier and higher and the ultraguage reflected this.
again i know my chip is different but this is what i got from mine.
I also played around at times with the max performance at high speeds setting and found that this significantly reduced the economy!!! Performanec wise though it made overtaking on highways even more exciting then ever.. you could especially noticed going from 100km/h up!!!
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ryane,
Sorry to hear about the car mate, read your post. As long as you are ok that the main thing.
Sounds like very similar to what I found. Heavier exhaust smell on start up also. I too reckon the power comes on earlier. I do a lot of highway and country road driving and for me the ability to overtake at short notice just by putting my foot down and not having to change back a gear is where I see the main benefit of the current setting I have. Starts pulling hard from 85 - 90 kph in 6th gear and doing 100 before you know it.
I may run this setting for a few weeks before trying to adjust the other switch which controls the duration (in the rev range) according to the manual, but I dont really think there will be a need to rev and have power available at a higher rev range.
Thanks for your input.
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Thanks mate,
Let me know how you go with that other switch. My chip also had one in the form of a rotating dial. Always wanted to try it out but never got around to it.
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Will do.
Racechip has 2 dials 1 for power & 1 for duration of power, took me a minute to try and understand what they meant at first. Must be the english translation. I have found bugger all in relation to people playing with tuning setting for i30's on the net, hence why I posted here. (plenty of info on other makes and models).
Good to here you are looking at GD for next car, the wife's GD Premium is great to drive, luv it, just not a diesel and miss the torque of mine.
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I have it on my GD on standard settings for almost a year now and over 10,000km. I tried level 1 and level 2 settings when I got it but find it too responsive and I worry about my car in the long run. I was quite happy with standard setting so I didn't go into it too much. It did also reduce fuel consumption by about 1L/100km which I was quite happy about.
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rickai,
Thanks for sharing the info. I know what you mean about how responsive the engine becomes. Very easy to go over the limit in 60 & 80kph zones if your not careful. I too was happy with standard setting for nearly a year, but it got the better of me and had to try the next setting. Will see how it goes for a few weeks.
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Keep us updated yea? I might give it some tweak after my service next week and see how it goes. I too kind of got bored of the factory settings. :snigger:
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My RaceChip Pro is officially 1 day old! It's set to Dial 1 - 0, Dial 2 - 1. It's just at half setting and I already think it's too much. Car feels a lot more peppier and stronger across the whole rev range.
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I think I'll refit my tuning chip :)
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jfdelacruz,
Was that the setting it was on when it came out of the box or did you adjust it before fitting. As mentioned mine was on B - 1, maybe they changed the dials when the new model Racechip Pro was released, is yours metal case or the plastic case?
FYI, just did 512km trip on freeway & open country roads using cruise control for most of it, fuel gauge now sitting right on halfway. Filled to top again (25.52lts) by my cals = 4.98lts / 100k, plenty good enough for me considering how well she goes.
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Catman - the default setting was also B-1 on mine. Mine is the old style RaceChip Pro (metal casing). I just adjusted it till the feel was enough for me. It feels to powerful at times, to be honest.
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Just completed 2nd round trip to central NSW, racechip still on D - 1 setting. Engine feeling so sweet and strong. I enjoyed the extra torque a bit more during this trip & used cruise control for most of it again. Got 5.1 lt / 100km this time round. Still very happy with consumption, twice as good as some of the other cars I use to do the same trip in.
Anyone else notice higher consumption when using cruise control?
I am thinking going to D - 2 setting is going to be a bit over the top based on the current performance from D - 1. I may try B - 2 setting next & see what the results are. Man I am really enjoying the drivability of this 1.6lt oil burner with this chip on it, both around town and on the highway.
Anyone else want to share some settings info?
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Sounds great! Never had a tuning box or ECU chip, so can't comment on that. :cool:
Cruise will generally use more fuel on hilly roads than a prudent driver because it tends to be more aggressive with the accelerator up hills to keep the speed. A prudent driver would be more gradual.
Less of an adverse effect on flat areas and in some such cases might save a bit of fuel by avoiding unnecessary fluctuations. :razz:
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Just completed 2nd round trip to central NSW, racechip still on D - 1 setting. Engine feeling so sweet and strong. I enjoyed the extra torque a bit more during this trip & used cruise control for most of it again. Got 5.1 lt / 100km this time round. Still very happy with consumption, twice as good as some of the other cars I use to do the same trip in.
Anyone else notice higher consumption when using cruise control?
I am thinking going to D - 2 setting is going to be a bit over the top based on the current performance from D - 1. I may try B - 2 setting next & see what the results are. Man I am really enjoying the drivability of this 1.6lt oil burner with this chip on it, both around town and on the highway.
Anyone else want to share some settings info?
I had a play with D2, i think it feels better than D1. The acceleration seems more spread out. I also notice the performance not as good during cold start. But once it gets normal temperature, it's quite smooth. Does that happen to you too?
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I have had my Race Chip Pro for 3 years now. I have been really happy with it.
I opened the case just now (for the first time) and changed the settings from default B1 to D1. It will be interesting to feel if there is any noticeable difference when I next use the car.
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Rickai,
Do you run that D - 2 setting all the time or put it back to standard? Running on D - 1 setting, I did not notice any difference when cold, but I usually let the car idle up 2 to 3 mins before driving and then drive steady till temp gauge is at normal operating temp. I use to run a Superchips Tuner on my F350 with 7.3lt V8 Powerstroke diesel and it use to de-rate the engine when cold until it reached operating temperature, wonder if Racechip does similar thing, I may send them an email & ask.
I have just set it to C - 2 for my next trip out west, will see how it goes. Was going to try B - 2 but really enjoying the performance.
Paolo5, you will notice the difference between B - 1 & D - 1.
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I just changed from Level (D1) 1 to Level 2 (E2). Damn this car's powerful!
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BANG :'( :snigger:
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BANG BANG give me more bang. "horsepower doesn't hurt engines, RPM hurts engines".
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Hi folks, finally after 18 months of sitting on my bum thinking should I chip the FD diesel......ordered one last Thursday and it turned up yesterday...stupid me should have done it when the dollar was heaps better.
I must say thanks for the many discussions on this topic as it is not an easy decision when you are a novice with slight twinkle in the eye to make improvements that only the owner can appreciate, so when the son returns from yet another road trip (2,500 km ) I shall do the deed and hopefully junior won't do an F1 and try to break speed records.
I bought the race chip Pro, so hopefully I will share the same successes of others
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Good luck with it! :goodjob:
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Hi Hampster,
You won't be dissappointed. I'd leave it on standard settings for a while like I did till I got use to driving it, just to judge the changes before playing with the settings. I am currently running C - 2 which I find better than D - 1 for the type of driving I do. Like Rickai mentioned I find the 2 setting gives the power a more spread out feeling over the rev range. D - 1 was fun but I find C - 2 a lot more driveable & better on fuel & still plenty of punch.
I completely understand people just leaving the engine standard, they are awesome, I personally like a little bit more spirit in a car & the Racechip certainly gives it that.
Let us know how your thoughts after you get it fitted.
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Folks are we talking Racechip or Racechip Pro?
http://www.racechip.com/racechip/ (http://www.racechip.com/racechip/)
http://www.racechip.com/racechip-pro2/ (http://www.racechip.com/racechip-pro2/)
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Keith,
Racechip PRO, the standard Racechip doesn't let you change the settings. Not sure if anyone out there is using the Racechip Pro2 or Ultimate yet either. Mine is just the Racechip Pro (metal enclosure type).
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Just completed 2nd trip out west on C - 2 setting, fuel consumption still sitting round 5.1 per 100km. This setting really suits cruising on the open road IMO. Good on fuel and still plenty of punch for overtaking and hills. Also found it not as harsh when using cruise control, the power was not as on & off (surging feeling) as it was on the D - 1 setting.
Will try the D - 2 setting on the next trip just to compare, but expect it will be a bit heavier on fuel for the same result.
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FYI
I have recently been exchanging some emails with RaceChip Tech people to find more info in regard to settings. A bit seems to get lost in translation sometimes, they believe that it depends on the individual vehicle as to what performance increase wil be obtained (nothing new). However from the info obtained the standard B - 1 setting (PRO 1 as shipped) is around 17 to 18% increase. To achieve near the claimed 30% performance increase one would have to adjust to the D - 1 or D - 2 settings.
Just though I would share.
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I have had my Race Chip Pro for 3 years now. I have been really happy with it.
I opened the case just now (for the first time) and changed the settings from default B1 to D1. It will be interesting to feel if there is any noticeable difference when I next use the car.
I don't get to drive my diesel that much now....but can finally comment on the seat-of-the-pants impressions on changing the settings on my Racechip pro from B1 (standard factory settings) to D1.
On the open road, the D1 setting makes the power/torque/speed come on hard and strong...more ragged...moreso than when at B1. At B1 the increase in power/torque/speed is more fluid and linear. D1 has the Scangauge setting (l/100km) sit a tad higher too. Normally it sits between 4.6 and 4.7 and has done for years now. At D1 it is at 4.8, occasionally dipping to 4.7l/100km.
It is probably all in my mind but I feel that the durability of the engine might be compromised a fair bit more at D1. It feels more stressed.
I might try C1 next, as I definitely preferred things the way that they were at B1.
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BANG BANG give me more bang. "horsepower doesn't hurt engines, RPM hurts engines".
depends how much hp we are talking about. but just be careful with those adjustable tuning box's. as with diesel run them to rich & it's same as petrol running lean. I've never used a tuning box so can't help.
but have sen the effects bulk HP has on parts
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hey paolo5 good to see your still happy with u i30 . just don't get as high as F 1 , I know what that = :rofl:
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hey paolo5 good to see your still happy with u i30 . just don't get as high as F 1 , I know what that = :rofl:
HA! HA! HA! :snigger:
Hi Lakes
I'm still very happy with the i30 but drive the Getz most days. It is a really great little car in its own right too.
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Paulo5,
Thanks for your comments and I agree with your explaination of the performance difference. I am currently running D - 3 setting and find it quite suits to the driving I am doing. Power holds on longer than the C - 2 or C - 3 settings that I have also tried and suits overtaking on open road and freeways at 100 to 110k's. I have also noticed hardly any difference in fuel economy between the C - 2 & D - 3 settings even using cruise control.
Based on the emails from RaceChips recently and 25 years of rebuilding all types & breds of diesel engines (from 2.0LT 4 bangers to 68.0LT V16's), I am not overly concerned that a 20% to 30% power increase will damage an engine as most will take this increase (Petrol or Diesel) quite happily. Will it it have an effect on the longevity of the engine? Probably! How much? Who knows! Were there any manufacturing defects in the engine to start with? Who knows! There are alot of factors to consider. I have done some wicked things to diesel engines before in regard to tuning (at the owners request), some lasted, some didn't, some really surprised me.
The reason I personally wouldn't go above the D setting is due to the turbo's specifications, that is the deciding factor for me, also having rebuilt many turbo's over the years pushing the turbo beyond its limit is of more concern than the rest of the engine. I would luv to put a 250HP spec turbo on one of these engine and turn up the wick some more, but alas at the moment it is my daily drive so can't at the moment.
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Why havent I seen this thread before!!?? I have searched the internet for the factory settings for days and now I have found ALL and some more information about it!!
I've just got myself a used race Chip PRO box and did not get any paper. The box was screwed on before me and I did not know what the factory setting was so I tried to adjust myself after what one could see on Race Chips video clips.
The car was crap then, and then stood my box at 6-4 ....
From what I have read now it seems D-1 work well so I'll try again now and see how the car goes then.
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Why havent I seen this thread before!!?? I have searched the internet for the factory settings for days and now I have found ALL and some more information about it!!
I've just got myself a used race Chip PRO box and did not get any paper. The box was screwed on before me and I did not know what the factory setting was so I tried to adjust myself after what one could see on Race Chips video clips.
The car was crap then, and then stood my box at 6-4 ....
From what I have read now it seems D-1 work well so I'll try again now and see how the car goes then.
B1 should be standard for i30s, you could send an email to racechip and ask, they have pretty good customer service. After having it for D1 & C1 for a while, i find B1 the smoothest of them all. The other ones use up bit more fuel and sometimes too responsive for my liking. It makes my car feel like one of those remote control cars.
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I emailed the Race Chip and got the answer that it would be B-1 as the factory setting.
Have finished setting it in the recommended performance level 2 E-2 and is not really happy with the effect anyway.
I want more power at speeds above 90km / h (57mph). My last box gave more power than this so the engine can give more. Anyone know if you can squeeze more out of this box?
This is a video taken from my car with my other box (The box is now broken :'( )
:link: Acc test Hyundai i30 1,6 crdi - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y84ZCvfSiMk)
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Hi Indalsman,
I haven't been on the site for a while (been playing with the Ecoboost turbo in the new Ford Kuga).
If you haven't already try using D-3 or D-4 setting. The higher the number the longer the power lasts in the rpm range.
I found the engine liked the D setting better than E setting. E setting made mine feel more rough & raggered, not as smooth and no real extra gain over the D setting.
I think you will find the turbo specs are going to be the limiting factor on getting more out of the engine not the racechip box. From memory the turbo is rated at around 160hp (I may stand corrected), if you get the claimed 30% power increase from the box then with the U2 engine 94kw standard + 30% = 122kw (163hp) the turbo is close to its design limit.
You could also try using a K&N air filter this will also help. Good luck, let us know how you go.
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30%???? thats a huge difference, I honestly cant see where they got that figure from...
i used to have a capa kit on an xr6 turbo and the real world figure was like 2-3% maximum performance increase.... On the dyno with me driving both times the best increase in kws was like 3kws and i was willing it to be more as well, bet and lost$100 on it.
that chip was also changing the fuel map boost pressure and a few transmission tweaks...
bit like the peter brock polariser haha
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Yep, I am hearing you Steve, I don't ever really believe claimed figures either, just doing the calcs based on there claim. Never had the i30 on a dyno to be exact, but the chip did make a noticeable difference to the i30.