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MODIFYING OR DETAILING YOUR I30 => TYRES | WHEELS | BRAKES => Topic started by: Surferdude on March 18, 2018, 23:27:28

Title: Nitrogen or No Nitrogen
Post by: Surferdude on March 18, 2018, 23:27:28
Just the other day, one of my sons asked me about this.

Essentially I told him that as air is mostly nitrogen and it's the oxygen which leaks out first, every time you top up your tyres, you're adding to the nitrogen content.
So why pay for it?
And if you don't check your tyres every couple of weeks, you deserve whatever you get.   :happydance:

 :link: Myth-Busting: Should you fill your car tyres with nitrogen? | Practical Motoring (https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car-advice/myth-busting-should-you-fill-your-car-tyres-nitrogen/)
Title: Re: Nitrogen or No Nitrogen
Post by: mickd on March 19, 2018, 01:01:40
 :lol:
When we took our GD for its 1 year service,  they asked us about going the nitrogen in the tyres. Whats wrong with the South Korean air ? , can't it mix with Australian air ? was the reply.
Title: Re: Nitrogen or No Nitrogen
Post by: The Gonz on March 19, 2018, 11:24:10
Damned straight. Biggest scam ever, perpetuated by the ignorant.
Title: Re: Nitrogen or No Nitrogen
Post by: Surferdude on March 19, 2018, 11:47:42
Damned straight. Biggest scam ever, perpetuated by the ignorant.
Actually, I think it's perpetuated by rip off merchants.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Nitrogen or No Nitrogen
Post by: The Gonz on March 19, 2018, 14:09:48
Damned straight. Biggest scam ever, perpetuated by the ignorant.
Actually, I think it's perpetuated by rip off merchants.  :mrgreen:
Well, if we're going to split hairs, I think it's perpetrated by ripoff merchants and perpetuated by the ignorant. :lol:
Title: Re: Nitrogen or No Nitrogen
Post by: Surferdude on March 19, 2018, 19:57:31
Damned straight. Biggest scam ever, perpetuated by the ignorant.
Actually, I think it's perpetuated by rip off merchants.  :mrgreen:
Well, if we're going to split hairs, I think it's perpetrated by ripoff merchants and perpetuated by the ignorant. :lol:
:goodjob2:
BTW, I know the individual who was responsible for the introduction of nitrogen in tyres as a commercial proposition.
He came to Goodyear after a stint overseas working for an equipment supplier.
Despite the fact that his history was not looked upon favourably by many of my colleagues and some dealers, we got on pretty well and I occasionally ran interference for him.
Title: Re: Nitrogen or No Nitrogen
Post by: simon@mgr on March 20, 2018, 03:15:31
The only advantage of nitrogen is in extreme load / speed situations, which is why it is used in aircraft tyres.
Cars don't even come close to those temperatures.
Title: Re: Nitrogen or No Nitrogen
Post by: Surferdude on March 20, 2018, 04:02:14
The only advantage of nitrogen is in extreme load / speed situations, which is why it is used in aircraft tyres.
Cars don't even come close to those temperatures.
And truck tyres up north and west.

Title: Re: Nitrogen or No Nitrogen
Post by: Smokeyr67 on April 29, 2018, 03:56:45
The only advantage of nitrogen is in extreme load / speed situations, which is why it is used in aircraft tyres.
Cars don't even come close to those temperatures.

And apparently it's a bigger sized molecule, so it's less prone to leaks :)
Title: Re: Nitrogen or No Nitrogen
Post by: tw2005 on April 29, 2018, 04:20:48
The only advantage of nitrogen is in extreme load / speed situations, which is why it is used in aircraft tyres.
Cars don't even come close to those temperatures.

And apparently it's a bigger sized molecule, so it's less prone to leaks :)
It's Not working, I'm still leaking gas. :head_knock:
Title: Re: Nitrogen or No Nitrogen
Post by: tw2005 on April 29, 2018, 04:26:43
Oxygen
Atomic radius: 60 pm
Electronegativity: 3.44
Atomic number: 8
Atomic mass: 15.999 u
Melting point: -218.8 °C

Nitrogen
Atomic radius: 65 pm
Atomic mass: 14.0067 u ± 0.0001 u
Atomic number: 7
Electronegativity: 3.04
Melting point: -210 °C


 :idea:
Title: Re: Nitrogen or No Nitrogen
Post by: Surferdude on April 29, 2018, 06:37:00
The only advantage of nitrogen is in extreme load / speed situations, which is why it is used in aircraft tyres.
Cars don't even come close to those temperatures.

And apparently it's a bigger sized molecule, so it's less prone to leaks :)
Let's take that a step further.
Air is 78% nitrogen and 21% oxygen.
So, if you fill up with air and It's mostly oxygen which leaks out, each time you too up, you are increasing the nitrogen content in your tyres. Without paying for it.  :happydance:
Title: Re: Nitrogen or No Nitrogen
Post by: Surferdude on April 29, 2018, 06:38:13
^
Wait for it........ :whistler:
Title: Re: Nitrogen or No Nitrogen
Post by: tw2005 on April 29, 2018, 06:52:42
The only advantage of nitrogen is in extreme load / speed situations, which is why it is used in aircraft tyres.
Cars don't even come close to those temperatures.

And apparently it's a bigger sized molecule, so it's less prone to leaks :)
Let's take that a step further.
Air is 78% nitrogen and 21% oxygen.
So, if you fill up with air and It's mostly oxygen which leaks out, each time you too up, you are increasing the nitrogen content in your tyres. Without paying for it.  :happydance:
I'm still leaking gas, and bad :wacko: Help Surferdude,

(https://resizing.flixster.com/4nXg_va_2zr8WI8RMNwFGi7LYz0=/300x300/v1.bjsxNDU5MjM1O2o7MTc3MDE7MTIwMDsxMDE5OzEwMTk)


 what should I do?  bigger molecules?

(http://www.waste360.com/sites/waste360.com/files/styles/article_featured_standard/public/tennis%20balls-ts-672517666_0.jpg?itok=nY3dGOHY)

Title: Re: Nitrogen or No Nitrogen
Post by: Surferdude on April 29, 2018, 07:54:24
The only advantage of nitrogen is in extreme load / speed situations, which is why it is used in aircraft tyres.
Cars don't even come close to those temperatures.

And apparently it's a bigger sized molecule, so it's less prone to leaks :)
Let's take that a step further.
Air is 78% nitrogen and 21% oxygen.
So, if you fill up with air and It's mostly oxygen which leaks out, each time you too up, you are increasing the nitrogen content in your tyres. Without paying for it.  :happydance:
I'm still leaking gas, and bad :wacko: Help Surferdude,

(https://resizing.flixster.com/4nXg_va_2zr8WI8RMNwFGi7LYz0=/300x300/v1.bjsxNDU5MjM1O2o7MTc3MDE7MTIwMDsxMDE5OzEwMTk)


 what should I do?  bigger molecules?

(http://www.waste360.com/sites/waste360.com/files/styles/article_featured_standard/public/tennis%20balls-ts-672517666_0.jpg?itok=nY3dGOHY)
Answer 1
Get your aircon hoses checked.
Answer 2
I've got nuthin'  :crazy1:
Title: Re: Nitrogen or No Nitrogen
Post by: tw2005 on April 29, 2018, 09:45:25
The only advantage of nitrogen is in extreme load / speed situations, which is why it is used in aircraft tyres.
Cars don't even come close to those temperatures.

And apparently it's a bigger sized molecule, so it's less prone to leaks :)
Let's take that a step further.
Air is 78% nitrogen and 21% oxygen.
So, if you fill up with air and It's mostly oxygen which leaks out, each time you too up, you are increasing the nitrogen content in your tyres. Without paying for it.  :happydance:
I'm still leaking gas, and bad :wacko: Help Surferdude,

(https://resizing.flixster.com/4nXg_va_2zr8WI8RMNwFGi7LYz0=/300x300/v1.bjsxNDU5MjM1O2o7MTc3MDE7MTIwMDsxMDE5OzEwMTk)


 what should I do?  bigger molecules?

(http://www.waste360.com/sites/waste360.com/files/styles/article_featured_standard/public/tennis%20balls-ts-672517666_0.jpg?itok=nY3dGOHY)
Answer 1
Get your aircon hoses checked.
Answer 2
I've got nuthin'  :crazy1:

Roger,..........out :goodjob2:
Title: Re: Nitrogen or No Nitrogen
Post by: Smokeyr67 on April 30, 2018, 02:36:54
The only advantage of nitrogen is in extreme load / speed situations, which is why it is used in aircraft tyres.
Cars don't even come close to those temperatures.

And apparently it's a bigger sized molecule, so it's less prone to leaks :)
It's Not working, I'm still leaking gas. :head_knock:

In that case I'd suggest looking at your nitrogen/methane ratio :Shocked:
Title: Re: Nitrogen or No Nitrogen
Post by: mickd on April 30, 2018, 07:26:24
The only advantage of nitrogen is in extreme load / speed situations, which is why it is used in aircraft tyres.
Cars don't even come close to those temperatures.

And apparently it's a bigger sized molecule, so it's less prone to leaks :)
Let's take that a step further.
Air is 78% nitrogen and 21% oxygen.
So, if you fill up with air and It's mostly oxygen which leaks out, each time you too up, you are increasing the nitrogen content in your tyres. Without paying for it.  :happydance:
I'm still leaking gas, and bad :wacko: Help Surferdude,

(https://resizing.flixster.com/4nXg_va_2zr8WI8RMNwFGi7LYz0=/300x300/v1.bjsxNDU5MjM1O2o7MTc3MDE7MTIwMDsxMDE5OzEwMTk)


 what should I do?  bigger molecules?

(http://www.waste360.com/sites/waste360.com/files/styles/article_featured_standard/public/tennis%20balls-ts-672517666_0.jpg?itok=nY3dGOHY)
Answer 1
Get your aircon hoses checked.
Answer 2
I've got nuthin'  :crazy1:

I think his EGR is copping a canning.
What's that smell?  Burning cotton ?! :crazy2:
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