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GENERAL STUFF => GENERAL DISCUSSIONS => Random Chit Chat => Topic started by: Shambles on April 11, 2017, 15:22:14
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I decided to give it a go. Just downloading it now...
:link: Download Windows 10 (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10)
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I've already installed it on 3 systems so far with the media update tool a week ago, only another 4 to go :)
Very smooth upgrade on all systems, apps removed from earlier builds at last don't get re-installed - except the xbox apps, there were a few new ones though but easily removed with CCleaner uninstall.
Disable or remove security software if you have any installed, generally not an issue but there have been a few reports of AV's bugging the upgrade.
If you cant find the Control Panel, type C into the Start Menu and you can right click to pin to Start or Taskbar, the build itself is much snappier than the last, I'm happy with it :D
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Yeah seems rather smooth, though little other difference from the Anni edition.
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Yeah not much changed in the look, lots of changes under the hood though with optimisations.
The old Defender UI is gone and Control Panel and Program and Features are hidden away, Task manager gives a better overview of all processes now being individualised rather than grouped.
I'm happy enough with it to have already deleted the old copy from the drive with Disk Clean-up (Admin)
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I just clicked the wifi icon in my taskbar and my router instantly went down for 10 mins - all my cameras went red. Very spooky. Back now, though.
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Go to All Settings/Privacy and make sure Radios and Other Devices is turned off if not already.
And turn off unnecessary apps in Background apps, the only app I've left running there is Defender.
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Yeah my privacy settings are as I want them.
And turn off unnecessary apps in Background apps, the only app I've left running there is Defender.
That's a great call :D
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is this a free install? I don't see it mention a product key except for Windows Office?
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More of an upgrade.
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More of an upgrade.
Yeah, option 1, product key needed. Wife has 10 on a laptop I did just to see what it was like. I'm more comfortable with 7
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So,
any real benefits for the average W10 user?
Or leave well enough alone?
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So,
any real benefits for the average W10 user?
Or leave well enough alone?
There's a considerable speed boost, Win 10 anniversary was quicker than Win 7 but this new update is quicker again, internal security levels have been hardened which is always a benefit.
It's quite a smooth upgrade process Trev, give it a go :goodjob2:
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is this a free install? I don't see it mention a product key except for Windows Office?
It's free for your wife's computer as you had previously upgraded it to Win 10 within the upgrade time frame, not so for any system that hadn't upgraded to 10 at some stage to get their digital license recorded.
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So,
any real benefits for the average W10 user?
Or leave well enough alone?
There's a considerable speed boost, Win 10 anniversary was quicker than Win 7 but this new update is quicker again, internal security levels have been hardened which is always a benefit.
It's quite a smooth upgrade process Trev, give it a go :goodjob2:
Thanks mate.
I really can't fault the speed of my W10. It starts up and turns off in way less than 30 seconds and that's now I've added two more internal HDDs which have to be checked in the process.
TBH the only speed issues relate to out ADSL1 connection. :fum:
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Yeah the slowest part of my setup is ADSL2, who knows when the NBN will ever get here :rolleyes:
Anyway! no rush to upgrade Trev but the under the hood security upgrades in the new OS should be one of the main concerns for people to move on.
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Why do they call it "Creator's" edition?
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Why do they call it "Creator's" edition?
I think it was because they took on a lot of advice from users so as to "create" a version based on user opinions.
One example would be the changes made in Windows updates, more options in there to defer updates, Task Manager now gives a better detailed view...etc
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Free if already upgraded to 10 correct?
Better and quicker than 7 ?
Youngest daughter did the 10 upgrade - crashed - not good 1st yr on her own at uni in Canberra, $150 later for disc etc she was happy. We weren't, told her to keep using 7 .
Slowest part of our system is the operator :lol:
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Did read that if you jump the queue instead of waiting until they offer the upgrade the settings will automatically go on default. If you wait until offered your settings will not be lost.
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Free if already upgraded to 10 correct?
Better and quicker than 7 ?
Youngest daughter did the 10 upgrade - crashed - not good 1st yr on her own at uni in Canberra, $150 later for disc etc she was happy. We weren't, told her to keep using 7 .
Slowest part of our system is the operator :lol:
Without knowing what her system was and what was installed is almost impossible to know what cause her system to crash but most likely the Anti-virus was to blame, should always be disabled or uninstalled before OS upgrades.
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Did read that if you jump the queue instead of waiting until they offer the upgrade the settings will automatically go on default. If you wait until offered your settings will not be lost.
The upgrade giving through the Media creation tool a week ago is the same as what is being delivered via Windows updates, settings are not lost :)
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Why do they call it "Creator's" edition?
God Speed :hahaha:
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I've noticed a marginal increase in "stuff". Stuff happens quicker then the previous stuff.
Plus we seem to have Microsoft Paint 3D now, in the program list. I'm shit at graphics so maybe I didn't see it there before. No idea how to use it though.
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I'm shit with graphic's as well so that app got the boot :) left it on Kamini's Surface Pro as she'll play around with it and it's more suitable for touchscreens.
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Don't install our buggy Windows 10 Creators Update, begs Microsoft
Microsoft has urged non-tech-savvy people – or anyone who just wants a stable computer – to not download and install this year's biggest revision to Windows by hand. And that's because it may well bork your machine.
It's been two weeks since Microsoft made its Creators Update available, and we were previously warned it will be a trickle-out rather than a massive rollout. Now, Redmond has urged users to stop manually fetching and installing the code, and instead wait for it to be automatically offered to your computer when it's ready.
:link: Don't install our buggy Windows 10 Creators Update, begs Microsoft ? The Register (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/26/stop_downloading_win10_creators_update/)
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Steve, It's only a concern for older systems that came preinstalled with XP and Vista that have had a few bugs.
Any of the newer systems released after 2009 wont have a problem :goodjob2:
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Indeed - I did read the article ;)
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:p :goodjob:
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I have installed the update.
In my opinion I found the update a bit heavy. My system works a little bit slower now.
But it's ok generally any large update in windows make the system little bit slower as it runs
more apps :)
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I have installed the update.
In my opinion I found the update a bit heavy. My system works a little bit slower now.
But it's ok generally any large update in windows make the system little bit slower as it runs
more apps :)
Try running Disk Clean-up in administrator mode which will provide the option to remove a lot of junk of the system, if you're happy with the current Win 10 upgrade you an also tick the box to remove the Windows Old file, once that's completed run the Windows Defragment tool to optimise your drives.
Hope that helps :)
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Hi Craig, thank you for the info :)
Just wanted to mention that about computer related issues I am computer science graduate, with msc etc
programmer I use computers from dos 3.3 so I had all version of dos and windows the last 30years :)
So my opinion was based on benchmark (my passmark benchmark - a very known computer benchmark, was slower after the update).
Generally on every large scale update windows become safer, visually improved and little bit slower in the same processor. Just processors become faster and faster and so that's not a problem.
Also if someone have an ssd hard disk that is a very fast hard disk, it's not allowed to do defrag, It may destroy the disk :)
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I've not experienced any slowness after upgrading, quite the opposite actually as all 12 systems I've upgraded in the last couple of weeks have noticeably become quicker.
I know what defragging an SSD's does :whistler: any modern Defragmenter as well the built Windows Defragmenter will detect an SSD is installed and apply the necessary Trim :)
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My experience has been positive on my desktop and laptop which both have intel i5 engines and an SSD C: drive. Both computers remain responsive with a fast boot and shut-down. The few extra features I have tried are welcome. I have no gripes whatsoever.
My wife has a laptop with an intel i3 CPU and she hasn't noticed any difference other than I had to reinstall the Sonos media system she uses to irritate me with her horrid choice of pop music. This may well not be the fault of the update - the Sonos was temperamental before.
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Thank you for the info. Specially Craig for the interest.
There is no noticeable change in speed for ordinary use.
In my computer the passmark score - after update is 5100
and beforewas 6100 and it's a meter of the cpu speed for applications...
It's here:
:link: PassMark product listing - Diagnostic and test software for computers (http://www.passmark.com/products/index.htm)
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I wouldn't pay to much notice to those benchmark programs, they're all snake oil imo...once they've tested your system most of them then try to offer you something else to fix whatever problem it thinks you have :rolleyes: do note that running bench test programs will generally do more harm to your SSD than Defragmenting would, maybe it's the over use of these programs which is causing your systems to become slower :undecided:
My tests are done with day to day real world use :goodjob2:
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Lately I'm getting regular messages from Windows about this.
Does that mean it's going to happen regardless?
I keep getting asked to review my settings.
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On a side note. I don't have the latest machines, mainly 2010 core 2 duo Toshibas.
Mrs machine which is a A500, 2.66Ghz 4Gb RAM 1Gb dedicated video card is the ny one we took the free W10 offer on.
Personally I find the new layout frustrating. Her video card went was ATI. There also a NVIDIA card also suited to the board and almost impossible to find parts cheap.
Installed the GT230M card, nothing but dramas and black screens etc. Not the card, not the PC, but drivers issue and W10. Latest version too.
Seems to be a common issue NVIDIA and W10. Flawless on 7
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I think I'd read on the NVidia website that Windows 10 needs at minimal a GForce 400 to 500 series card for compatibility, I haven't tested with anything lower than the 500 though so I can't confirm but win 10 definitely runs well with my GForce 500 card in the lappy.
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I think I'd read on the NVidia website that Windows 10 needs at minimal a GForce 400 to 500 series card for compatibility, I haven't tested with anything lower than the 500 though so I can't confirm but win 10 definitely runs well with my GForce 500 card in the lappy.
I have not read any further but It's surprising the ATI HD4650 though has no issue and from the same model in fact was in the first A500, then They went NVIDIA GT230M, then GT330M.
Looks like my options are, swapover an ATI card from one of my spares or scrap 10 back to 7.