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GOT PROBLEMS OR ISSUES? => DIESEL => Topic started by: Pikapolonica on July 18, 2015, 00:07:37

Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!... "RESOLVED!!!"
Post by: Pikapolonica on July 18, 2015, 00:07:37
I'm baaaack!  Miss me?  Probably not ha ha.

Anywho, don't know how to really explain the problem.  I'm coming up to my 180,000km but seeing as that service will most likely cost me close to $900 (if not more), money which I do not have, I have asked that Hyundai do a 160,000km, as that should only be around $300.

My car is now 7 years old and out of dealership warranty, but wasn't happy with the last mechanic I took my car to, thus going back to Hyundai.

I know the timing belt needs changing, but I will discuss this with them on Wednesday and ask what absolutely needs replacing, but that they will need to discuss with me first.

So lately I've noticed my car sounds like a distant siren when accelerating.  I have no other way to explain the noise.  Anyone else notice this in their car?  And what it could possibly be?
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!
Post by: Phil №❶ on July 18, 2015, 00:36:15
Read here a while back that the siren sound is usually the turbo. Does it rise and fall with the revs of your engine and gears  :question:

If you have a 1.6 Diesel, they have a chain drive for timing and it shouldn't need replacing.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!
Post by: Pikapolonica on July 18, 2015, 00:49:46
Read here a while back that the siren sound is usually the turbo. Does it rise and fall with the revs of your engine and gears  :question:

If you have a 1.6 Diesel, they have a chain drive for timing and it shouldn't need replacing.


I booked the service online and they called me back and told me I needed the timing belt replaced...I dunno.  Will see on Wednesday.

Turbo?
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!
Post by: FatBoy on July 18, 2015, 01:09:03
As Phil said, as far as I can remember the 1.6 CRDi has a timing chain, not belt.  So the service centre could be telling porkies. 

Likewise, if it is sounding like a siren, it could be the turbo on the way out.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!
Post by: Pikapolonica on July 18, 2015, 01:11:31
Thanks....will report back Wednesday :)

Though if that is the case re turbo, how much could I expect the service to cost me?
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!
Post by: rustynutz on July 18, 2015, 02:18:09
An arm & a leg and your first born....  :lol:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!
Post by: Pikapolonica on July 18, 2015, 02:23:05
Wonder if they'll accept baked goods or other favours as payment?!?!
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!
Post by: rustynutz on July 18, 2015, 02:28:40
Worth a try!  :lol:  :snigger:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!
Post by: The Gonz on July 18, 2015, 02:29:01
... or other favours as payment?!?!
:ttiuwp:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!
Post by: Pikapolonica on July 18, 2015, 02:30:45
... or other favours as payment?!?!
:ttiuwp:

Use your imagination LOL
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!
Post by: The Gonz on July 18, 2015, 04:05:32
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Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!
Post by: Phil №❶ on July 18, 2015, 07:49:23
Wonder if they'll accept baked goods or other favours as payment?!?!

They won't, but I'm always agreeable to that.  :lol:

Seriously, If they're talking timing belts I'd be cancelling the service and picking someone who know more than they do. I presume this is not Hyundai !

At the distance you've traveled, the timing chain should be quite ok, so don't let them touch or charge you for labour or parts pertaining to the chain at all. Get another quote just to be sure. Also, there are usually savings if you can supply the correct oil and filters, not sure if you know what's required.

The correct oil for the Diesel is a B4 type, Full synthetic, Graded from 0-30, 5-30, or 5-40. 40 provides protection for freeway speeds and summer temps, so 30 would be ok at this time. Not sure what filters you would need, but at least an oil filter.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!
Post by: cruiserfied on July 18, 2015, 12:38:39
Definately call them back and get a quote on the service making sure they know its a Diesel.

A "siren" noise is quite possibly a turbo concern. See if it increases and decreases with engine rpm but with a second delay, not instantly.

There could also be a worn drive belt pulley or component bearing (alternator/aircon comp/water pump etc) or possibly even a transmission noise.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!
Post by: Just Rick on July 18, 2015, 15:20:19
I had a similar experience with Cyril after his first run in with the phantom kangaroo,the so called distant siren sound was bloody annoying,mine was cracked inter cooler hoses
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!
Post by: Phil №❶ on July 18, 2015, 23:53:43
Good thought Rick, must remember that. Cheaper than a new turbo.  :exclaim:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!
Post by: Pikapolonica on July 19, 2015, 06:40:02
It's timing something anyway lol

And yes, it's the Hyundai dealership in Geelong.

I had dad listen to my car but we can't pinpoint exactly where it is coming from.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!
Post by: BC on July 19, 2015, 09:02:33
My "siren like" noise turned out to be a turbo bearing.  It was replaced under warranty, the job estimated to be worth about $3500.
It was an obvious noise, getting louder when under load or the A/C on.
Do a search on "turbo whistle".

Good luck.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!
Post by: Pikapolonica on July 19, 2015, 23:01:40
I'm really dreading Wednesday.  I did find another post on the same/similar issue and he was quoted $4500ish from Hyundai, $1300 aftermarket.

I asked a friend for his opinion just going off my above description.  He said it shouldn't cost that much and if it does, they're ripping me off.

Where would I start looking for an aftermarket turbo?  I'm in Geelong.

Would it be rude to tell the service department not to dick around with me when it comes to servicing my car and only repair/replace etc if absolutely necessary?
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!
Post by: Phil №❶ on July 19, 2015, 23:57:17
As the car is out of warranty, you have the ultimate say on whether a repair is made or not, however, their experience should always be considered when deciding what has to be done. Regarding the turbo, member Rick has reported that his turbo sound came from some cracked intercooler pipes which would not be too expensive to replace if yours had the same fault. The intercooler pre-cools air for the turbo and is located on the battery side of the radiator, it is a mini radiator for air only. You should see some pipes top and bottom going to your air filter, these may be cracked and the turbo noise escapes through the crack.

If it turns out it is the turbo, definitely use another reputable repairer and get quotes for supply and fitting. Hyundai prices are way off the scale IMO.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!
Post by: Pikapolonica on July 20, 2015, 01:35:41
I just don't want them to tell me something needs to be fixed, even though it can probably wait.  Like I said, funds are low due to job situation.

I will be taking for a second opinion if they can provide me with a list of what needs to be fixed and perhaps an estimate of the bill, if that is possible.

This is apparently what needs servicing:

180,000km service: http://www.fixedpricecarservice.com.au/ServiceSchedule.aspx?ServiceID=1058349 (http://www.fixedpricecarservice.com.au/ServiceSchedule.aspx?ServiceID=1058349)

165,000km service: http://www.fixedpricecarservice.com.au/ServiceSchedule.aspx?ServiceID=1058348 (http://www.fixedpricecarservice.com.au/ServiceSchedule.aspx?ServiceID=1058348)

Service cost according to Hyundai: $1100 for 180,000km.  $285 for 165,000km.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on July 22, 2015, 07:53:17
So just got my car back from service at Hyundai.  As my car is more near 180,000kms, I asked them to do a 165,000km service, as major one would cost me close to $1200 and this one cost me $310.  My car lately has been sounding like a siren, so I asked them to look into it.  My turbo bearings are on the way out.  To replace it, I'm looking at $4500 plus labour.  Refurbished one would be cheaper but will need a quote.  They'll need my car for 3-5 days.  They also said I need to have the major service done....neither of which I can't afford unless I rob a bank or use my Hawaii spending money...no fricken way.

They can't tell me either how long it'll last me...could be 2 months, could be a year. If it does go, it won't be good.

Probably be cheaper to trade in and get another car.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: The Gonz on July 22, 2015, 07:59:07
Just hypothesising ... if the turbo stops working, wouldn't your car still be driveable, just less powerful (but more economical)? :confused:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on July 22, 2015, 08:02:25
He said it won't be good, it'll smoke a lot.

I did ask for a quote, so I hope he does find out and get back to me.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Phil №❶ on July 22, 2015, 11:14:28
I would check out a performance workshop, not Hyundai. If the car's out of  warranty, you are not obligated to have them do the repair.

Performance workshops know how to get the best grunt out of a car, as you ae not seeking this, they would have a lot of experience in fitting a replacement turbo. Their common jobs include fitting a turbo to non turbo cars, so yours should be easy for them.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Dazzler on July 22, 2015, 11:26:25
I would check out a performance workshop, not Hyundai. If the car's out of  warranty, you are not obligated to have them do the repair.

Performance workshops know how to get the best grunt out of a car, as you ae not seeking this, they would have a lot of experience in fitting a replacement turbo. Their common jobs include fitting a turbo to non turbo cars, so yours should be easy for them.

 :Agoodpost: :goodjob:

Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on July 22, 2015, 11:32:43
Thanks for the suggestion......how do I find one?
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Dazzler on July 22, 2015, 11:34:01
Thanks for the suggestion......how do I find one?

Yellow pages or Google.

Check this out for starters...

:link: Request Rejected (http://www.yellowpages.com.au/find/turbochargers/greater-geelong-vic)
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: The Gonz on July 22, 2015, 12:03:43

Check this out for staters...

:crazy2:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: beerman on July 22, 2015, 14:07:03
Have a look on Ebay for a replacement turbo and have a mechanic put it in.

Didn't someone on here replace the bearings in their turbo? Perhaps a fix is an option?
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on July 22, 2015, 23:09:26
Thanks....after my rant on this on my FB page, I had a friend contact me.  His son is a mechanic so I'll go and chat to him about things.

I just hope nothing blows up in the interim because then I'll be well and truly farked.

Uncle called yesterday...said probably not worth fixing if I'm looking at getting a new car in the next 6-12 months...sorry buddy but I'm not rolling around in money like you are, I can't just rock up to a car dealership ready to handover money for a new car.

Even though I can get a 22% discount at Ford (I assume that's still the case), I still can't afford a new car.

BTW, yesterday's service cost me $310.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Dazzler on July 22, 2015, 23:53:37
Sounds like you are between a rock and a hard place Vanessa.  :(
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on July 23, 2015, 00:22:07
Sounds like you are between a rock and a hard place Vanessa.  :(

Unfortunately, yes, seems that way.

 :(
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on July 27, 2015, 03:33:27
Waiting for Hyundai to get back to me with prices for new and refurbished turbo.

I've also been told by another friend that it should only bee $500-600.

Got so much conflicting suggestions and prices etc.

What does one do?

I did a rough Car Sales price for my car and I'd probably be lucky to get $7000, though probably less with a cracked turbo.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: The Gonz on July 27, 2015, 03:53:10
I'm getting the impression just paying up on a replacement turbo will be the less painful option for you.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on July 27, 2015, 04:12:59
And then get even less for trade in.

I need to sit down and work out the best option for me.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on July 27, 2015, 05:22:16
OK so Hyundai have called me back with prices:

Genuine turbo and gasket: $5000 plus $500 labour.  Non-genuine: $2100 plus $500 labour.

Unfortunately duct tape won't fix things temporarily :(
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: CraigB on July 27, 2015, 06:17:03
Try contacting this mob :link: bargains.direct on eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/usr/bargains.direct) via email, sign in via ebay account first and the contact link will become available.

They should be able to get you a new genuine turbo for $500 - $600
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on July 27, 2015, 06:56:33
I was just about to ask what exactly do I look for if looking for a part on eBay, but you answered my questions  :goodjob2:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on July 27, 2015, 06:59:41
This one? :link: Small Universal Turbo Charger T25 T28 Ford Holden Hyundai Nissan Isuzu Mazda | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Small-Universal-Turbo-charger-T25-T28-Ford-Holden-Hyundai-Nissan-Isuzu-Mazda-/121136200844?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item1c3447bc8c)
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: CraigB on July 27, 2015, 07:03:30
This one? :link: Small Universal Turbo Charger T25 T28 Ford Holden Hyundai Nissan Isuzu Mazda | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Small-Universal-Turbo-charger-T25-T28-Ford-Holden-Hyundai-Nissan-Isuzu-Mazda-/121136200844?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item1c3447bc8c)
I don't think it's that one as it is for a petrol vehicle, easiest to contact them with your vehicle details and see what they say.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: CraigB on July 27, 2015, 07:10:03
This is their email sales@bargainzdirect.com
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on July 27, 2015, 07:11:19
This one? :link: Small Universal Turbo Charger T25 T28 Ford Holden Hyundai Nissan Isuzu Mazda | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Small-Universal-Turbo-charger-T25-T28-Ford-Holden-Hyundai-Nissan-Isuzu-Mazda-/121136200844?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item1c3447bc8c)
I don't think it's that one as it is for a petrol vehicle, easiest to contact them with your vehicle details and see what they say.

Thanks...didn't read properly, my bad!

Will e-mail them.  Thanks Craig :)
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: CraigB on July 27, 2015, 07:15:27
Your welcome and good luck :Good_luck:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: sundiz on July 27, 2015, 14:26:10
OK so Hyundai have called me back with prices:

Genuine turbo and gasket: $5000 plus $500 labour.  Non-genuine: $2100 plus $500 labour.

Unfortunately duct tape won't fix things temporarily :(

How on earth can a turbo cost 5000$? They are totally trying to rip people off. If a turbo would cost 5000 the whole car should be 200 000 when new...

Here you can get a replacement turbo (seller says it's original garret for HY) with 800€...
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on July 29, 2015, 23:43:37
OK so I saw a mechanic yesterday and got a quote for a brand spanking new Garrett turbo for $1800 plus labour, depending on how long it'll take, but he can't see it taking a whole day.  So I'm looking at anywhere between $2100 and $2300.

I'm not gonna get any better than this, am I?

Suggested I don't leave things too long, as he explained to me that if one of the fan fins breaks off into the engine, it'll cost me a lot more money.

You'd think Hyundai would tell me that, wouldn't you?!  :twisted:

I think I've found a new mechanic to take my car in from now on.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Dazzler on July 29, 2015, 23:51:25
I'm no expert but I wouldn't have thought a fin falling into the motor was likely! :undecided: Sounds like scare tactics to me!  :confused:

Most likely scenario (I would imagine) is you would get some smoke and just lose power (but don't sue me if I'm wrong) :sweating:

Still sounds a lot to spend on a car worth less than 10K. From some posts in this thread should be able to buy and get a turbo replaced for under $1200. Would be worth doing then.

What do others think?

Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on July 30, 2015, 00:33:15
I'm still waiting for my other mechanic friend to get back to me but he seems to agree the price is good.

I don't fecking know what to  :needhelp:

I'm going overseas in 3 1/2 week so can't exactly afford to spend a shitload of money on my car.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Phil №❶ on July 30, 2015, 00:48:54
Try a speed shop as previously advised and see if the price of the turbo can be improved. The speed shops would generally buy more turbos than a standard mechanic, so their supplier may be more competitive on price.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: sundiz on July 30, 2015, 10:33:40

I'm not gonna get any better than this, am I?



I thought that it is still expensive, but I forgot that you use different currency... I my opinion 2100-2300$ is pretty close to the reality. Of course you could get it little cheaper, but that might take some time. At least it is much more cheaper than the 5000$ just for the turbo.

What comes to the possible breaking of the turbo, I just don't understand how that debree could get in to the engine. Of course anything is possible, but how it would actually happen? It should fly through the intercooler etc. Souldn't the gravity keep the parts out of the engine because in i30 the intercooler is vertical, not horizontal. Parts should be sucked upwards through the intercooler... Someone said that the pressure pushes the crap inside the engine. I tried to think how that would actually happen. If the turbo fails, shouldn't the pressurised air come out of the intake manifold and pipes through the place where the turbo "used to be". Or does the engine create such a high vacuum after the turbo has gone that it will suck the debree in it? Or does the turbo still create pressure even some of its blades are broken?
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: beerman on July 30, 2015, 15:26:17
I'm no expert but I wouldn't have thought a fin falling into the motor was likely! :undecided: Sounds like scare tactics to me!  :confused:

Most likely scenario (I would imagine) is you would get some smoke and just lose power (but don't sue me if I'm wrong) :sweating:

Still sounds a lot to spend on a car worth less than 10K. From some posts in this thread should be able to buy and get a turbo replaced for under $1200. Would be worth doing then.

What do others think?

Had a mate who bought a Navara that stopped working, turned out it was just that, the turbo had blown, been replaced and the vehicle sold off looking good. Some time down the track the bits of blown up turbo killed the engine.

I would give the wreckers a call. A low k second hand turbo would fix your ills.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on July 31, 2015, 02:40:51
I'm so confused as to what to do.

I don't want to get ripped off because I don't know much about my car and because I'm a female.

ie scare tactics re the fins flying off into the engine???  I dunno, do I believe him or not???
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Dazzler on July 31, 2015, 07:58:17
I'm so confused as to what to do.

I don't want to get ripped off because I don't know much about my car and because I'm a female.

ie scare tactics re the fins flying off into the engine???  I dunno, do I believe him or not???

I would do a bit more shopping around for repair quotes and at the same time ask if there is any risk in driving it until you are more financial (e.g. after your trip)  :cool:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Phil №❶ on July 31, 2015, 09:17:21
Generally speaking, the vanes on the turbo are made of high temperature tolerant materials, especially the exhaust side. When a turbo fails, the bearings start to become loose which allows the rotating shaft with the vanes on each end to move or wobble either circumfrentially or along it's lateral axis or both. The clearance tolerances are very fine and any movement will possibly allow the vanes to gradually impact on the housing which contains them. Each time that happens, there is a collision of parts and some metal will be shed. If the shed metal is from the vanes, than a rapid imbalance will occur causing an exacerbation of the problem and eventually catastrophic destruction of the turbo. Turbo shafts operate at many thousands of revs per minute.

I can only reiterate to you to see a speed shop who specialize in this type of mechanism and will help you. You shouldn't feel confused as replacement is the only option. Personally, I wouldn't drive the can any more than absolutely necessary. Use your internet and the phone to get quotes in the first instance and when you think you've found the right one, visit them and take it from there.

Do you have access to a male friend who can help you with this problem?
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 01, 2015, 11:57:49
Do you have access to a male friend who can help you with this problem?

Yes I do. Will chat to him during the week.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Dazzler on August 01, 2015, 22:25:15
Hi Vanessa,

Thinking about this a bit more.. What is your car like apart from the turbo? Is it well maintained and in good condition? If so then it is probably worth spending a couple of grand you don't have after your holiday and then keeping the car a few more years, otherwise see what you can get for it as is and downsize to something newer maybe?  :undecided:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: FatBoy on August 01, 2015, 23:40:52
Don't discount trading in your car.  I have a friend that had a Commodore wagon that had an engine on the way out (and obviously so, it sounded like it was going to die).  The car yard gave him the "Red Book" price for the car on a trade in, and then they sold that car at the wholesale auctions.  They won't lose money, but they will pass the car on.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Dazzler on August 02, 2015, 00:04:56
Don't discount trading in your car.  I have a friend that had a Commodore wagon that had an engine on the way out (and obviously so, it sounded like it was going to die).  The car yard gave him the "Red Book" price for the car on a trade in, and then they sold that car at the wholesale auctions.  They won't lose money, but they will pass the car on.

Miss, you do realise your current car has a turbo about to expire? Oh does it? I don't know much about cars.. :whistler: :D

 In a situation like this different yards will vary wildly with their trade in values, so you would need to be a bit flexible in what you get as a replacement. Just make sure you don't get stitched up with something just as sick..  :undecided:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Phil №❶ on August 02, 2015, 01:46:35
Trading cars just opens another can of worms, IMO.  :'(
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Dazzler on August 02, 2015, 01:55:08
Trading cars just opens another can of worms, IMO.  :'(

I agree, it would help if Vanessa was a car person with more local support (I might have to do a quick trip)  :D
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Phil №❶ on August 02, 2015, 01:56:09
Very helpful, Dazz  :D
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 02, 2015, 23:29:30
Aw thanks guys!!!!  Love youse all :).

No, I have no other issues with the car currently.  This is the first major issue I've had with it since owning it since brand spanking new.

Yeah I can always play dumb when it comes to asking for trade in  :p

I'm just so confused.  Do I fix it and lose money or lose money regardless with trade in?

I'll consult with friend in the coming days and will report back.

In the meantime, I'll grab some trade in quotes from a few dealerships in Geelong.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Dazzler on August 03, 2015, 01:07:14
Sounds like a good plan Vanessa! Some trade in prices will horrify you but others may not be so bad.  :cool:

Administrator Comment If they want to take it for a run, insist on going with them for "insurance purposes" so they don't thrash it!
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 03, 2015, 05:27:40
How safe would a turbo be from a wrecker?  I found one online for $500 plus delivery.

Dad seems to think not safe and rather me pay the $1800 for a new one.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Dazzler on August 03, 2015, 05:32:12
How safe would a turbo be from a wrecker?  I found one online for $500 plus delivery.

Dad seems to think not safe and rather me pay the $1800 for a new one.

Depends how reliable the wreckers is and if they offer a warranty? Would be nice to know the history of the turbo (what mileage the donor car had done and how long ago it was scrapped) :cool: If the donor car was only scrapped in the last month or two, had only done 50K or less and they offered some sort of warranty the $500 wouldn't be too bad! 
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: beerman on August 03, 2015, 05:33:32
Most wreckers have a warranty, I can see no reason why it wouldn't give you plenty of trouble free miles. I have used wreckers parts before and have had no issue with them. They are basically good parts in a car that has had a premature death.

If you were going to trade/sell spending $500 on the turbo to remove the problem might be a very wise investment indeed.

Having been selling an i30 for a while, the recent 20k government bonus has flooded the used car market with stock, so there is plenty out there. Values aren't that great either as a trade or private sale. Personally I would throw the $500 turbo in and move on. But to each their own.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 03, 2015, 05:43:06
Found it National Dismantlers through Parts Online.

http://www.partsonline.com.au/detailed-listings.asp?record=169729 (http://www.partsonline.com.au/detailed-listings.asp?record=169729) That was sent from Formaz Parts Plus.

Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Dazzler on August 03, 2015, 06:30:11
Can't really tell how much work it has done. Been in storage over a year so maybe you can get it down to $400 (but must get some warranty!)
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: beerman on August 03, 2015, 07:09:08
Its off a wagon so it must be good  :evil:

I would want to know how many k's it had on it, and how the car met it's demise.

Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Phil №❶ on August 03, 2015, 07:49:41
What about the turbo on the ebay wreck, only 194 kms  :idea: :idea: :idea:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: beerman on August 03, 2015, 10:29:51
I think they want to sell the whole car, God knows why. The wheels are worth $500 easy by themselves (if the set is good).
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Phil №❶ on August 03, 2015, 10:40:10
Buy the car, take turbo & sell wheels = win,win.  :happydance:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Surferdude on August 03, 2015, 10:51:58
Buy the car, take turbo & sell wheels = win,win.  :happydance:
Isn't the OPs car q 2008 model?
Compatibility?
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Phil №❶ on August 03, 2015, 11:05:46
I thought the motors were the same except for the injectors.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 03, 2015, 12:33:20
Wrecker called I think from Sydney, said I can get part, labour and tow for $1200......I don't think he understood me that I'm in Geelong.

Either way, said 3 month warranty on part and labour.

Back to square one.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Dazzler on August 04, 2015, 04:58:37
Wrecker called I think from Sydney, said I can get part, labour and tow for $1200......I don't think he understood me that I'm in Geelong.

Either way, said 3 month warranty on part and labour.

Back to square one.

 :eek: :crazy2: :Pout:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 04, 2015, 22:47:04
Checked my phone log and not Sydney, that was Campbellfield in Vic.

This is Sydney quote: $660 + $35 delivery.  Travelled less than 30,000km.

The pic I posted earlier is from a Sydney parts mob, $500 delivered.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Dazzler on August 05, 2015, 00:00:55
Checked my phone log and not Sydney, that was Campbellfield in Vic.

This is Sydney quote: $660 + $35 delivery.  Travelled less than 30,000km.

The pic I posted earlier is from a Sydney parts mob, $500 delivered.

At least you have alternatives. Maybe the $695 delivered is the best option.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 05, 2015, 06:06:07
Had my car valued at Hyundai today....$6000.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Dazzler on August 05, 2015, 06:48:04
Had my car valued at Hyundai today....$6000.


Sad isn't it!

Problem is they will probably only be able to sell it for 9 or 10k and they build about 3K in for anything they have to do plus overheads.

Detailing, tyres, rego etc.. 


Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: beerman on August 05, 2015, 07:06:54
In all honesty 6k for a 2008 with 180k and a dodgy turbo isn't too bad.

I sold my 2010 i30cw in excellent condition with 136k on the clock and 4 months rego privately for 9.

If you add in say 1k for the turbo and another 500 for the service (I think you could get a bit of overlap between the two).  That's 7500.

The key question would be are you then paying full price for a new car?
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: eye30 on August 05, 2015, 08:28:40
But do they know about turbo and priced accordingly?
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 05, 2015, 08:54:08
:link: Used Hyundai | Blood Hyundai (http://www.bloodhyundai.com.au/used-hyundai-geelong/view/2013_Hyundai_i30_GD_Elite_Silver_6_Speed_Sports_Automatic_Hatchback/9883851/)

Drove this.  Can get for $18000 with trade in.

I didn't tell them about dodgy turbo, but I'm sure they'll check the most recent service notes.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: beerman on August 05, 2015, 09:27:53
Cavet Emptor especially for professionals such as dealers, they should be able to work that out at an inspection....

But 22021-6000 does not equal 18k?

Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 05, 2015, 09:32:46
That's the best price but I think he said might be able to drop a bit more.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Dazzler on August 05, 2015, 10:34:06
:link: Used Hyundai | Blood Hyundai (http://www.bloodhyundai.com.au/used-hyundai-geelong/view/2013_Hyundai_i30_GD_Elite_Silver_6_Speed_Sports_Automatic_Hatchback/9883851/)

Drove this.  Can get for $18000 with trade in.

I didn't tell them about dodgy turbo, but I'm sure they'll check the most recent service notes.

I think you can do a lot better than 18 k changeover!  :fum:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: beerman on August 05, 2015, 11:08:02
That's the best price but I think he said might be able to drop a bit more.

I don't know how he is diddling the books to put 6k on your car, unless your adding options?
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Dazzler on August 05, 2015, 11:22:00
Vanessa,

Why don't you go into carsales.com and choose cars in your price range with the features you want within 50 or 100 kms of your postcode. I think the one they are offering you is a bit of a rip off at 18k c/over...  :spitty:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 06, 2015, 00:39:28
Yeah looked at Carsales.

So it seems that the average turbo from a wrecker is $600-700 inc $35 delivery.  All come with 3 month warranty.

Campbellfield, which is in Melbourne and not far from my work, is as stated above, offering $1,250 with a low km turbo unit that has done 45,000km's.  The above price will also include a tow pick up and also a 3 months part and labour warranty.

I'm thinking of taking up either this latter option or get a part from the wrecker and ask my mechanic to install it.

TBH, I can't really afford a new car now as I'm going away on holidays and took me ages to save up for this and unless I find full time work, I can't afford $180 a fortnight on finance over 5 years, which is what Hyundai worked out yesterday.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Dazzler on August 06, 2015, 00:51:54
Yeah looked at Carsales.

So it seems that the average turbo from a wrecker is $600-700 inc $35 delivery.  All come with 3 month warranty.

Campbellfield, which is in Melbourne and not far from my work, is as stated above, offering $1,250 with a low km turbo unit that has done 45,000km's.  The above price will also include a tow pick up and also a 3 months part and labour warranty.

I'm thinking of taking up either this latter option or get a part from the wrecker and ask my mechanic to install it.

TBH, I can't really afford a new car now as I'm going away on holidays and took me ages to save up for this and unless I find full time work, I can't afford $180 a fortnight on finance over 5 years, which is what Hyundai worked out yesterday.

I think the $1250 supplied and installed is the way to go because they can't try and blame your mechanic if it doesn't last 3 months.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 06, 2015, 01:28:40
Yeah that's true.  Waiting for an email reply re the code on the turbo.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: tohis on August 06, 2015, 10:28:55
No matter if you are trading in the car or plan to continue driving with it, just go for that offer.  :goodjob:

The worst option would be to trade it in as faulty. The dealer will happily state how the turbo replacement will cost $4500 and the offer is lowered as much. BUT, that's the rip-off price for customers, and the real price for them is significantly less even if they ordered a new turbo, and for a car which is out of warranty they will most likely get that used one instead - ta-da, they just made huge profit!

Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: beerman on August 06, 2015, 10:59:36
Good Option,

If I was you I would speak to them about rolling the 180k service into the turbo replacement. From memory the 180k is an auto service as well, which is why it is so dear.

In reality with oil $65, filter pack (oil, diesel, air) about $70 and auto fluid (lets go over the top and say $100) there is plenty of gouging there from the dealers. I would want the oil changed and filter changed when the turbo was done anyway. They might throw in the service to get the job, or at the very least do it for cost. '

Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: elantraelite on August 06, 2015, 11:25:57
I drove with my turbo sounding like a siren for 20,000km with no issues... Thats how long it took me to convince Hyundai it needed to be changed under warranty.

If its Hyon Auto Parts in Camberfield, they aren't too bad. My friend had the engine in his Granduar replaced there and they seemed ok to deal with
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Asterix on August 06, 2015, 17:50:13
:link: Used Hyundai | Blood Hyundai (http://www.bloodhyundai.com.au/used-hyundai-geelong/view/2013_Hyundai_i30_GD_Elite_Silver_6_Speed_Sports_Automatic_Hatchback/9883851/)

Drove this.  Can get for $18000 with trade in.

I didn't tell them about dodgy turbo, but I'm sure they'll check the most recent service notes.

I'm confused..  :confused:

The add in this link is for a 1,8 liter petrol but the pictures shows a tailgate with the CRDi sign (pic 8)

Was it a petrol or diesel you drove..?  Wrong Pictures or wrong description.. :question:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Dazzler on August 06, 2015, 21:41:25
:link: Used Hyundai | Blood Hyundai (http://www.bloodhyundai.com.au/used-hyundai-geelong/view/2013_Hyundai_i30_GD_Elite_Silver_6_Speed_Sports_Automatic_Hatchback/9883851/)

Drove this.  Can get for $18000 with trade in.

I didn't tell them about dodgy turbo, but I'm sure they'll check the most recent service notes.

I'm confused..  :confused:

The add in this link is for a 1,8 liter petrol but the pictures shows a tailgate with the CRDi sign (pic 8)

Was it a petrol or diesel you drove..?  Wrong Pictures or wrong description.. :question:

Well picked up (I suspect wrong pix) they often use file photos in these adds (lazy) :fum:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 06, 2015, 23:14:31
:link: Used Hyundai | Blood Hyundai (http://www.bloodhyundai.com.au/used-hyundai-geelong/view/2013_Hyundai_i30_GD_Elite_Silver_6_Speed_Sports_Automatic_Hatchback/9883851/)

Drove this.  Can get for $18000 with trade in.

I didn't tell them about dodgy turbo, but I'm sure they'll check the most recent service notes.

I'm confused..  :confused:

The add in this link is for a 1,8 liter petrol but the pictures shows a tailgate with the CRDi sign (pic 8)

Was it a petrol or diesel you drove..?  Wrong Pictures or wrong description.. :question:

It was a diesel.......wrong description I think LOL.  Wonder if I point that out I can get more of a discount?!??!!?
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!...updated.
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 09, 2015, 07:14:23
What code am I looking for on the turbo head?  Talked about it with my friend today and he mentioned T2, T3 or T4.  I said my mechanic struggled to see the actual code.  If not code, what exactly am I/we looking for to ensure I get the right turbo.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!... "Help Needed"
Post by: Dazzler on August 09, 2015, 11:24:17
What code am I looking for on the turbo head?  Talked about it with my friend today and he mentioned T2, T3 or T4.  I said my mechanic struggled to see the actual code.  If not code, what exactly am I/we looking for to ensure I get the right turbo.

Administrator Comment Can someone help Vanessa with this please...
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!... "Help Needed"
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 10, 2015, 03:23:12
Did find this online somewhere, not sure if it's what I need when asking for turbo:

Engine: U2 Euro 4
HP: 121
CC: 1.64/4
Fuel: Diesel
Model: GTB1444V7
Part Number: 775274-0002
OEM Part Number: 28201-2A700
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!... "Help Needed"
Post by: CraigB on August 10, 2015, 05:08:53
You could possibly ring Hyundai spare parts, give them your VIN and they should be able to tell you exactly what part number you require.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!... "Help Needed"
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 10, 2015, 05:34:47
I've emailed my Huyndai dealer/service centre with the VIN etc, but yet to hear back from them.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!... "Help Needed"
Post by: Dazzler on August 10, 2015, 11:44:18
Did find this online somewhere, not sure if it's what I need when asking for turbo:

Engine: U2 Euro 4
HP: 121
CC: 1.64/4
Fuel: Diesel
Model: GTB1444V7
Part Number: 775274-0002
OEM Part Number: 28201-2A700

I don't think a 2008 would be a U2 motor?
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!... "Help Needed"
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 11, 2015, 01:50:37
Success!!!!  Thanks to my friend, I've managed to track down a cheaper genuine turbo from MTQ Engine Systems in Laverton (VIC).  $1062 plus approx $500, but all up maybe $1200-1300 as the oil feed (?) could need replacement or something like that.

And it's a GT1544 Garrett Turbo apparently.  I have NFI!  Ha ha.

Now I'm getting somewhere...hopefully!
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!... "Help Needed"
Post by: Phil №❶ on August 11, 2015, 01:54:23
Friends are great, aren't they. You have friends here, too.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!... "Help Needed"
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 11, 2015, 02:27:53
You do and I can't thank you all enough.

I can't cook y'all dinner as a thank you though ha ha...for him I can  :lol:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!... "RESOLVED!!!"
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 19, 2015, 23:51:53
Goooood morning everyone!

My car is finally sounding like it should.  Turbo was replaced yesterday.  Labour was $350.  Took quite some time to change things over as the whole manifold had to be removed.

Mechanic explained the issue.  Said instead of the 'fan thingy' (what I call it, not him LOL) running smoothly, there were notches which caused it to catch.  He said oil going from the sump wasn't an issue, because as soon as he removed the turbo, oil was running freely.

I kept the old turbo.  Dad was going to pull it apart but my friend actually wants it.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!... "RESOLVED!!!"
Post by: Phil №❶ on August 20, 2015, 02:05:06
 :happydance: :goodjob2: A photo would be nice  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!... "RESOLVED!!!"
Post by: Dazzler on August 20, 2015, 03:15:07
 :brilliant: So what did the total cost end up being Vanessa? Either way, sounds like you've done the right thing.  :Agoodjob:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!... "RESOLVED!!!"
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 20, 2015, 04:20:24
$1062 for the part, $350 labour.

Save myself a lot of money....more spending money for me in Hawaii  :happydance:  :happydance:  :happydance:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!... "RESOLVED!!!"
Post by: Dazzler on August 20, 2015, 04:23:20
 :victory: :happydance:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!... "RESOLVED!!!"
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 20, 2015, 04:24:28
:happydance: :goodjob2: A photo would be nice  :mrgreen:

Having trouble shrinking the photo to an appropriate size :(
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!... "RESOLVED!!!"
Post by: Dazzler on August 20, 2015, 04:26:54
:happydance: :goodjob2: A photo would be nice  :mrgreen:

Having trouble shrinking the photo to an appropriate size :(

When you have more time try hosting it via Imgur or similar and posting a an image link (like in the Welcome thread tutorial) :cool:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!... "RESOLVED!!!"
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 20, 2015, 04:34:48
Here it is:

:link: i30 Turbo (http://imgur.com/9C93isU)


(http://imgur.com/9C93isU.png)
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!... "RESOLVED!!!"
Post by: Surferdude on August 20, 2015, 04:37:57
^ Thanks.
And enjoy Hawaii.
It's an awesome place.
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!... "RESOLVED!!!"
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 20, 2015, 04:39:15
^ Thanks.
And enjoy Hawaii.
It's an awesome place.

Yeah can't wait.  Just hope the weather improves, bit of flash flooding in some areas  :blubber:
Title: Re: Car sounds like...a siren?!... "RESOLVED!!!"
Post by: Phil №❶ on August 20, 2015, 10:08:09
:happydance: :goodjob2: A photo would be nice  :mrgreen:

Having trouble shrinking the photo to an appropriate size :(

 :lol: :whistler:
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