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FUEL ISSUES & ECONOMY => GENERAL => Topic started by: Lakes on December 13, 2014, 21:20:08
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Hi All, just noticed Fuel prices going down & some predicting $1 per L soon.
but here on South Coast i pay $1.45 L for Diesel.
How is the price where you are?
i can tell you i'm expecting the Roads will be busy over the Xmas break.
cheers
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Couple of weeks ago ULP went from 151.5 down to 138.5 :D hasn't moved since then.
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You have cheap fuel and cheap cars... :blubber: :foottap:
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I saw ULP for 123.9 in Sydney, still 148.9 in Tassie.
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I saw ULP for 123.9 in Sydney, still 148.9 in Tassie.
:whsaid: and 120.9 in Melbourne! :fum:
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I got my current tank of BP Ultimate Diesel at $1.32. :D
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Down to 115.9p per l here
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I got my current tank of BP Ultimate Diesel at $1.32. :D
I'd be happy with that!
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Down to 115.9p per l here
But not with that! :eek:
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I bought 95 premium ULP this morning for my P at 1.389.
I'm still paying @ 1.459 for diesel. (Well, my boss is :snigger:).
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Thanks all, interesting, wonder why the prices so much difference? is it that they take longer to sale there stock?
i know i posted $1.45 for diesel down here but i got it for $1.41 L today got 75L in the tank
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Been all over Perth today for a Sunday drive and standard unleaded ranged from $1.19 to $1.23, got myself a tank full of BP Ultimate 98 for $1.36
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Thanks all, interesting, wonder why the prices so much difference? is it that they take longer to sale there stock?
i know i posted $1.45 for diesel down here but i got it for $1.41 L today got 75L in the tank
It's because ACCC only monitors fuel prices in the the 5 largest capital cities :fum:
Plus (I guess) there is probably a bit more competition for business in these densely populated areas.
Been a long time since I can remember a petrol price war in Tassie (unfortunately) :Pout:
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Been a long time since I can remember a petrol price war in Tassie (unfortunately) :Pout:
Family normally don't like fighting with family.
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:rolleyes: :groan: :beer:
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Just came back from Launceston today. Still 1.40 and higher, 1.12 here in Melbourne. There is some intentional price gouging going on according to reports.
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Most places here still selling diesel for 1.45 range,I am getting mine for 1.38
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Thanks all, interesting, wonder why the prices so much difference? is it that they take longer to sale there stock?
i know i posted $1.45 for diesel down here but i got it for $1.41 L today got 75L in the tank
It's because ACCC only monitors fuel prices in the the 5 largest capital cities :fum:
Plus (I guess) there is probably a bit more competition for business in these densely populated areas.
Been a long time since I can remember a petrol price war in Tassie (unfortunately) :Pout:
Dazz i was reading in NRMA Open Road this past month, & they where questioning how some country towns set there fuel prices, so with NRMA looking at it hopefully we will get something done.
we have a price war on down here, since some new boys moved in.
but some towns have there prices 10 cents higher.
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Thanks John, RACT make a bit of noise about it and sometimes it comes down a few cents .. but not to a fair price.
If you were going to have a petrol station, looks like regional areas is the place to have them! :undecided:
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Apparently the price gouge by Iran and USA is to put the squeeze on Russia, they are just about bust. But that's not what mainstream news is reporting. :neutral:
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..... to put the squeeze on Russia, they are just about bust.
Beware a Country with little to lose..... :eek:
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Thanks John, RACT make a bit of noise about it and sometimes it comes down a few cents .. but not to a fair price.
If you were going to have a petrol station, looks like regional areas is the place to have them! :undecided:
Dazz NRMA have a lot of Clout in NSW don't think we have RAC but i know other states do.
I think Tassie is run by Greenies so they would not care .
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price of Oil went up $2.1 us a barrel so fill up.
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Thanks John, RACT make a bit of noise about it and sometimes it comes down a few cents .. but not to a fair price.
If you were going to have a petrol station, looks like regional areas is the place to have them! :undecided:
Dazz NRMA have a lot of Clout in NSW don't think we have RAC but i know other states do.
I think Tassie is run by Greenies so they would not care .
Not run by greenies any more (thank goodness) :victory:
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That's good Dazz. we got a new BP servo in town just opened diesel $1.39.9 , i've got to drive to Sydney Tuesday so see what it is up there, i was in Bega yesterday & it was $1.56.9 in a woolies servo, they always rip you off in Bega not sure why the Fuel dearer in Batemans Bay too you only have to drive 30k north of Batemans Bay & Diesel is 25cent per L cheaper. hard to work out.
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There is a concerted push down here (no doubt started by my rants on here and facebook :lol: ) to get fairer pricing.. (it was in the newspaper today)
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Apparently the ACCC have been asked by the Tasmanian State Government to investigate fuel prices. The claim is the mark up at the bowser is twice the mainland average.
:link: Tasmania seeks ACCC probe into fuel pump prices - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-20/tasmania-seeks-accc-probe-into-fuel-prices/5981166?WT.ac=statenews_tas)
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:happydance: :victory:
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Merry Christmas,
Well I'm in Sydney now, Diesel not much different in price here than down where I live now. Cheapest diesel I've seen $1.36 . Before I left home I payed $1.38.6
But petrol is a lot cheaper they even post the price of 98 ultimate up. Saw that for $1.30
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Few days ago I paid 1.289 EUR per liter for diesel, and 95 octane petrol would have been 1.389 EUR. At July they were about 1.52 and 1.70 respectively.
Some people at here goes regularly to Russia for filling their tanks (only 100 km to the border from where I live). Even before the Russian Roubles exchange rate plummeting recently, the fuel at the other side cost about half than in Finland, and now it's even cheaper at there.
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Tohis hope things start to improve in Russia i don't know why America causing them problems
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1.39.9 less 4c today so 1.35.9 in Brissy
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1.39.9 less 4c today so 1.35.9 in Brissy
Yes, same in Devonport today... :goodjob:
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i don't know why America causing them problems
World economics in operation.
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i don't know why America causing them problems
World economics in operation.
I have a bad feeling about this squeezing of the Russian economy and the tampering with the North Korean internet (could end in tears for all of us) These things have a habit of escalating lately.. :sweating:
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Prices are a lot different one side of Sydney to other, I managed to fill up with BP Ultimate Diesel @ $1.23 per litre yesturday
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i don't know why America causing them problems
World economics in operation.
I have a bad feeling about this squeezing of the Russian economy and the tampering with the North Korean internet (could end in tears for all of us) These things have a habit of escalating lately.. :sweating:
You mean another war Dazz.... Oh just a moment, war never stopped did it? The western powers make far too much money out of wars to let them fizzle out.... Oh what a lovely war. :Shocked: :Shocked: :Shocked: :Shocked: :Shocked:
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I guess you are right ASA.. :undecided:
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yeah, defense contractors have to make a profit you know... :wacko:
That being said I paid $1.89/gal (.49usd/l ish) for 93 octane the other day. Haven't paid that little in over a decade.
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The last time oil was this low $us per barrel,
petrol in Sydney sold for $0.80 per L so why is petrol prices still so high?
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The last time oil was this low $us per barrel,
petrol in Sydney sold for $0.80 per L so why is petrol prices still so high?
I think that the falling AUD hasn't helped. Also, the cost of oil is only part of the cost of fuel at the bowser. For example, the cost of refining the oil would have increased (rising wages for all). The excise on fuel has increased. Profit margins on fuel for all concerned would have increased as well.
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Plus fuel excise taxes for the govt.
:oops:
Just noticed you mentioned that BatFoy. :mrgreen:
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I'm sure all true, we don't know how much tax state to state, i remember when Bob Carr was NSW premier he wanted to fix the roads up, so said he will put a 3 cent per L fuel tax for three years then take it off, that should be enough to improve the roads, call it 3x3.
then three years on Bob say's no i can't take that 3 cent per L tax off we need more.
Then gets a private company to fund a motorway with a Toll to cover the cost user pays, no more mention of our 3x3 .
QLD used to give the federal 10cent fuel tax back so the fuel in QLD was 10 cent cheaper but that seems to have stopped too and them & vic are the states that invented toll ways the E ways ( barstards :rofl: )
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QLD used to give the federal 10cent fuel tax back so the fuel in QLD was 10 cent cheaper but that seems to have stopped too and them & vic are the states that invented toll ways the E ways ( barstards :rofl: )
Geez John.
The Sydney Harbour Bridge had a toll on it when I first visited in 1967. :disapp:
The Gateway Bridges weren't even on the drawing boards back then.
BTW. Is there a statute of limitations on non payment of tolls? 'Coz I set off a heap of alarm bells when I drove across that bridge without dropping money in the "correct change" basket.
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Trev :neutral:
Hey people happily pay to walk over top span of harbour bridge, bet you could not get them to do that on Briz's Story bridge, it's story is Largest all australian steel bridge in Australia :rofl:
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Trev :neutral:
Hey people happily pay to walk over top span of harbour bridge, bet you could not get them to do that on Briz's Story bridge, it's story is Largest all australian steel bridge in Australia :rofl:
Yeah it costs a fortune to walk over the bridge! :fum:
http://www.bridgeclimb.com/prices/ (http://www.bridgeclimb.com/prices/)
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Trev :neutral:
Hey people happily pay to walk over top span of harbour bridge, bet you could not get them to do that on Briz's Story bridge, it's story is Largest all australian steel bridge in Australia :rofl:
How much are we betting?
:link: A unique adventure experience and attraction - Brisbane's Story Bridge Adventure Climb (http://www.sbac.net.au/)
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Trev :neutral:
Hey people happily pay to walk over top span of harbour bridge, bet you could not get them to do that on Briz's Story bridge, it's story is Largest all australian steel bridge in Australia :rofl:
In fact, John, they pay to climb the Storey Bridge too.
My daughter and I did the Sydney bridge climb a few years ago.
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Trev :neutral:
Hey people happily pay to walk over top span of harbour bridge, bet you could not get them to do that on Briz's Story bridge, it's story is Largest all australian steel bridge in Australia :rofl:
How much are we betting?
:link: A unique adventure experience and attraction - Brisbane's Story Bridge Adventure Climb (http://www.sbac.net.au/)
Yeah, but that's a different story! :whistler: (I wouldn't pay that much to climb either)
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Worth every cent, Dazz.
The view are incredible.
I was gonna say "to die for", but probably not the best choice of words.
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Worth every cent, Dazz.
The view are incredible.
I was gonna say "to die for", but probably not the best choice of words.
Sydney Harbour?
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Both Sydney and Brisbane.
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Fairy Nuff as Dave would say! :goodjob:
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Just got 130.9 diesel less .14c (Woolworths .04 docket and .10 for spending $10 or more).
Nice....
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Just got 130.9 diesel less .14c (Woolworths .04 docket and .10 for spending $10 or more).
Nice....
But, did you REALLY need the stuff you spent $10 on?????? ;)
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Diesel prices are still lagging badly. Some places have gotten to 99.9c/L for E10, but diesel is still at 130.9c/L or so. It is ripping us off, as the relative price difference as a percentage between petrol and diesel has increased.
Also for premium 95RON I see that the price difference from e10 remains at about 14c/L more expensive (or about 10-11c/L more than 91RON). I remember when I first got a car which required 95RON in 2002, the difference then was only 4c/L from unleaded which at the time was about 75c/L. Again this price differential should be decreasing.
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Prices drop in uk as well.
Unleaded circa 107.9 ppl and diesel 111.9ppl.
Stiil going down with crude circa $45 a barrel and falling
But why is domestic gas and electricity prices not falling?
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Been a long time since I can remember a petrol price war
For the benefit of our Euro (and other) cousins, here in Australia a "price war" usually means who can get away with charging the most...
Anyway, SE Australia, region called Gippsland, prices vary, but diesel is around $1.30/l with ULP going for around $1.15/l.
When I bought the i30 in Nov '11 diesel was $1.46/l. It hasn't changed that much over the past 3 and a bit years, so this is the first time that it's dropped any significant levels.
For me it represents a saving of around $8 a fill. Better than a kick up the arse, eh?
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But why is domestic gas and electricity prices not falling?
Here in Oz, it's matter of different energy markets. We are a nett exporter of natural gas. Also export lots of black coal. However, our energy costs in these areas are set to rise significantly, particularly for gas.
We're the only country in the OECD which doesn't set aside stocks for domestic consumption. So, it's possible that, aside from paying through the nose for the product, that we could also suffer from shortages as the foreign owned energy companies such Oz dry to feed the likes of China and other developing nations.
As for the rising cost of electricity, that's another issue and a more complex one, not necessarily related to the cost of crude oil, given that the majority of our power generation is from black and brown coal, but with increasing levels of renewables (wind, solar, hydro, etc.).
Here in SE Australia the average cost of power is about 20 odd cents a kilowatt hour. What are Britons and Europeans paying?
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Diesel prices are still lagging badly. Some places have gotten to 99.9c/L for E10, but diesel is still at 130.9c/L or so. It is ripping us off, as the relative price difference as a percentage between petrol and diesel has increased.
Also for premium 95RON I see that the price difference from e10 remains at about 14c/L more expensive (or about 10-11c/L more than 91RON). I remember when I first got a car which required 95RON in 2002, the difference then was only 4c/L from unleaded which at the time was about 75c/L. Again this price differential should be decreasing.
Con i was in Sydney for a week , just got back home yesterday , i managed to get BP Ultimate Diesel for $1.16 they had E10 @ $99.9 thats at North Rocks
oil is $40us barrel
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just thinking back to 2008 we were paying $2 per Lt for diesel as china was stocking up for Olympics.
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A link to the current oil price. $47.30 per barrel at the moment. I hope it goes up!!
:link: Oil Prices & Energy News: Crude Oil Price Charts, Investment Advice (http://oilprice.com)
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Diesel prices are still lagging badly. Some places have gotten to 99.9c/L for E10, but diesel is still at 130.9c/L or so. It is ripping us off, as the relative price difference as a percentage between petrol and diesel has increased.
Also for premium 95RON I see that the price difference from e10 remains at about 14c/L more expensive (or about 10-11c/L more than 91RON). I remember when I first got a car which required 95RON in 2002, the difference then was only 4c/L from unleaded which at the time was about 75c/L. Again this price differential should be decreasing.
Con i was in Sydney for a week , just got back home yesterday , i managed to get BP Ultimate Diesel for $1.16 they had E10 @ $99.9 thats at North Rocks
oil is $40us barrel
$99.9. Wow that is expensive!
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A link to the current oil price. $47.30 per barrel at the moment. I hope it goes up!!
:link: Oil Prices & Energy News: Crude Oil Price Charts, Investment Advice (http://oilprice.com)
:kissmyass: :fum: :mrgreen:
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A link to the current oil price. $47.30 per barrel at the moment. I hope it goes up!!
:link: Oil Prices & Energy News: Crude Oil Price Charts, Investment Advice (http://oilprice.com)
Or you won't be?
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A link to the current oil price. $47.30 per barrel at the moment. I hope it goes up!!
:link: Oil Prices & Energy News: Crude Oil Price Charts, Investment Advice (http://oilprice.com)
Or you won't be?
Employed!!!
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A link to the current oil price. $47.30 per barrel at the moment. I hope it goes up!!
:link: Oil Prices & Energy News: Crude Oil Price Charts, Investment Advice (http://oilprice.com)
Or you won't be?
Employed!!!
Hence you won't be going up. :winker:
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:goodjob:
At the moment there is a lot of talk about supply outstripping demand. This isn't true, they are going about level par. What is happening is that people are speculating that there will be an excess of supply, so selling off their future purchases, driving the price down.
My job is secure at the moment (the joys of a long contract), but a lot of companies have reduced their exploration budget (Conoco have reduced their worldwide exploration by $15 billion, that's right, it starts with a "b"). Other companies will continue to explore otherwise their lease will expire and it will end up costing them money).
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In the UK we pay 58 pence per litre duty on fuel - plus VAT at 20% which is also charged on the duty - hence the total tax per litre amounts to 70 pence. At current exchange rates this equals 1.30 Australian dollars per litre.
Therefore - if the UK fuel companies and the service stations gave away fuel for free - we would still be paying more in tax per litre than you chaps pay in total at the pumps down under.
On behalf of the UK - I claim bragging rights for being ripped off on fuel prices...........you guys have far less to moan about. :TutTut: :Dunno:
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That may be so, but we have further to drive to get anywhere. Adelaide to Melbourne 770 kms, or Adelaide to Perth 2793 kms.
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That may be so, but we have further to drive to get anywhere. Adelaide to Melbourne 770 kms, or Adelaide to Perth 2793 kms.
Lands End to John o Groats is 1350 kms but few people drive it..... :whistler:
When I used to visit Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth it was cheaper and quicker to fly than drive the long distances. I would wager than very few people regularly drive huge distances.
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That may be so, but we have further to drive to get anywhere. Adelaide to Melbourne 770 kms, or Adelaide to Perth 2793 kms.
Lands End to John o Groats is 1350 kms but few people drive it..... :whistler:
When I used to visit Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth it was cheaper and quicker to fly than drive the long distances. I would wager than very few people regularly drive huge distances.
Alan i drive or ride everywhere, see more of our country that way.
i've meet people riding Pushy's around the country too that is a challenge, but as i'm profoundly deaf, would be risky ( looking into ear implant )
just wondering how much food & water it would take to ride around Australia? probably need a lot of bike spares too
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:whsaid:
I've done a 5000km drive and have a mate that did a 9000km drive (in a 40 y/o Combi) Lots of our Aussie Members do 1000 km drives regularly..
You blokes in the UK won't even do 50km drives to catch up for a cuppa :whistler: (with exceptions)
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I did 860 km in one day two days ago. :winker:
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In the last year or so, 3500 to Darwin and a bit over 4000 on the return journey (to see more sights).
Driven to Cairns (plus a bit) from Brisbane and back (1700 + klms each way. Numerous trips between Brisbane and Sydney (1000 klms each way) Brisbane to Adelaide and back (5000 klms round trip).
Brisbane to Melbourne (close to 4000 klms round trip). At least twice.
Numerous long weekend getaways of 1000 to 1500 klms
When I was rallying in the early days if an event was less than 500 MILES overnight we would complain. They shortened over the years but still were good for 500 Kilometers by the time I stopped.
Driving. It's the only way to fly. :P
BTW. The country is filled with grey nomads who travel for months at a time.
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You blokes in the UK won't even do 50km drives to catch up for a cuppa ...
It's 'cos the weather's always shit and there's nowhere nice to go and hide from it :undecided:
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I cant find a list for the current date but this list is from the Bloomberg.com website January 2013, look what Venezuela pay's :Shocked:
1.Turkey – $9.89 per gallon
2.Norway $9.63 per gallon (and the only large oil-producing country with high gas cost, as they use oil profits for services to the population, e.g., free college for citizens)
3.Netherlands – $9.09 per gallon (it is interesting that the Dutch has the most bicycles per capita in the world)
4.Italy – $8.87 per gallon (it cost the same for Italians to fill up their tanks each week as it does to buy a weeks worth of food)
5.Portugal – $8.82 per gallon (64% of this price goes towards taxes, which went up over 10 years ago to help protect the environment)
And the 5 countries that pay the least per gallon of gasoline?
1.Venezuela – $0.06 per gallon, where according to the article, “the cost of filling up the 39-gallon tank of a Chevrolet Suburban in Venezuela is $2.34, compared with $128.31 in the U.S. and $385.71 in Turkey”.
2.Saudi Arabia – $0.45 per gallon
3.Kuwait – $0.81 per gallon
4.Egypt – $1.14 per gallon
5.United Arab Emirates – $1.77 per gallon
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2.Norway $9.63 per gallon (and the only large oil-producing country with high gas cost, as they use oil profits for services to the population, e.g., free college for citizens)
It's not a free education then, is it? Somebody is paying for it!! In this case, people who buy fuel (ie. citizens).
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Craig were they imperial Gal or Us gal? there is a lot of confusion as i think imp gal = 4.54L & us gal = 3.70L
also south american country's have a lot of ethanol in there fuel think they use sugar to produce it, my friend in Reo used to talk carb jetting with me as we both had very old Harley's . he used to have to jet a lot richer, than i did & told me they had bad fuel.
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Venezuela is a net oil exporter, and in the top ten worldwide.
http://www.eia.gov/countries/index.cfm?topL=exp (http://www.eia.gov/countries/index.cfm?topL=exp)
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Craig were they imperial Gal or Us gal? there is a lot of confusion as i think imp gal = 4.54L & us gal = 3.70L
also south american country's have a lot of ethanol in there fuel think they use sugar to produce it, my friend in Reo used to talk carb jetting with me as we both had very old Harley's . he used to have to jet a lot richer, than i did & told me they had bad fuel.
US gallons I would think, Bloomberg is an American website.
I found a much more recent ( November 2014 ) dedicated statisics webpage list here :link: ? Gasoline: fuel prices around the world 2014 | Statistic (http://www.statista.com/statistics/221368/gas-prices-around-the-world/)
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Thank's Craig
i just saw the local BP selling Diesel @ $1.23 so getting cheaper E10 $1.20 & BP Ultimate 98 $1.37
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In the Netherlands i'm paying € 1.47/L for EURO 95 but you get € 1.40 if you shop around. Just across the border in Belgium it's € 1.35 approx.
Dave
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If people knew the real reason why fuel prices are falling, they wouldn't be so happy .
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If people knew the real reason why fuel prices are falling, they wouldn't be so happy .
So what your take on the real reason fuel prices are falling? I was lead to believe it's from an over surplus of oil in storage :undecided:
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I've heard it's because the Yanks are trying to stuff some other countries economies (but there is always a lot of yank bashing on social and other media) :fum:
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If people knew the real reason why fuel prices are falling, they wouldn't be so happy .
So what your take on the real reason fuel prices are falling? I was lead to believe it's from an over surplus of oil in storage :undecided:
Not true. There is no oversupply. The markets "think" that there will be an oversupply, so the price has dropped on the future oil sales (most oil is pre-sold at a pre-arranged price). Exploration for new fields has "slowed" as the current price of oil isn't worth the expenditure in far out fields.
Word at work is that oil below $50 per barrel will force out the shale oil companies ($50 per barrel is where it is economically viable to produce shale oil). Also, the Russians need the oil price high to finance the country. Just like the resources are going south for Australia is bad news, oil going south for Russia is worse.
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I was lead to believe , the I S, is financed by oil $ too. is that true?
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I was lead to believe , the I S, is financed by oil $ too. is that true?
That is what I am lead to believe. With the price low they aren't getting as many dollars per barrel, so their income is reduced. They won't stop producing though, as their cost to recover is quite low. When I was in the ME a few years back, oil could be recovered from the ground for about $2 US per barrel!!
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Well it's going up, $50 n up.
I have been out of action this week, but drove to a BP I know in Sydney got BP ultimate Diesel $1.17.9 so was happy as my Hi-Lux 4D4 has larger tank & more thirst that my i30 CRDi
But does the job I need it too , so no complaint
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According to some economists in the UK - Saudi Arabia started this spiral be reducing their oil prices to try and weaken Iran - which is working.
I guess the USA are going along for the ride (now that they are no longer dependent on oil imports with the success of fracking) to give the Russian economy a bashing.
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And would't you know.......... The price has gone up 5 eurocent in a week. Running at 1,53 a liter as of this morning
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And would't you know.......... The price has gone up 5 eurocent in a week. Running at 1,53 a liter as of this morning
The word is it is going to creep up a little bit in the next few weeks for us Aussies anyway. Increase in oil price and continued low Aussie $
:link: Petrol prices: what are the factors fuelling the national average? (http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/petrol-prices-what-are-the-factors-fuelling-the-national-average-20150211-13azre.html?eid=email:nnn-13omn581-ret_newsl-membereng:nnn-04/11/2013-drive-dom-motoring-nnn-drive-u&campaign_code=13IAU000&promote_channel=edmail&mbnr=MTIzNzM5OTI)
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Yeah, but you know how it works....... If the price of oil goes down wait until the cheap petrol hits the pumps before lowering the price, but when the price goes up raise the price of fuel at the pump immediatly.
Rotterdam has about 2 weeks supply in storage at any given time, so to raise the price that quickly proves somethings afoot.
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Yeah, ours never came down as much as it should have (regional area) and it has already risen a couple of cents at some garages. :twisted:
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Up 1p yesterday here
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Please, please, please, keep going up!! :whistler:
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:evil: :TutTut: :toldyou:
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Up another 1p/l here today.
Quick to put up but so so slow when reducing price!
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Up another 1p/l here today.
Quick to put up but so so slow when reducing price!
Yep, same happens here :-(
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:wts:
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well i was in Sydney again for two week's, got BP Ultimate Diesel @ $1.19 per L i saw normal diesel @ $1.16 per L it seemed to be on a par with E10 in most area's i past through in Sydney. Premium petrol has gone up a lot but the Diesel still low.
Down the coast the price seems to be 10 cent's more but can't see any BP ultimate just the throthy stuff
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Up 2p/l yesterday
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2 pence does not sound like much? must be a pretty penny?
i remember when we had pounds shilling's & pence ( very complicated compared to Dollar's & cent's. i think was twelve pence = one shilling , twenty shillings = one pound
plus if you lost your horse or any animal it could end up in the pound :lol:
Cheers
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Well up 4p/l in a week.
This is just shy of an old shilling i.e. 12 old pence in lakes money.
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Well up 4p/l in a week.
This is just shy of an old shilling i.e. 12 old pence in lakes money.
when the money i was talking about was in circulation, a pound was worth double $us that's when the US economy was booming.
so do you just use dollar & cent's system too but call it pounds & pence? or is it euro?
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When i left England they still used dubloons. :snigger:
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Well up 4p/l in a week.
This is just shy of an old shilling i.e. 12 old pence in lakes money.
when the money i was talking about was in circulation, a pound was worth double $us that's when the US economy was booming.
so do you just use dollar & cent's system too but call it pounds & pence? or is it euro?
Still using pounds (£) and pence (p).
Not the Euro in the UK
it is 100p + £1 (one pound) not 240d which = the old £1
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Up 2p/litre for unleaded here... :rolleyes: