[Phil №❶]

There are many vehicles with DRL's fitted so we do have our fair share of exposure. I have them on my 1992 Commodore because it IS quite foggy where I live.. 

[FatBoy]

There are many vehicles with DRL's fitted so we do have our fair share of exposure. I have them on my 1992 Commodore because it IS quite foggy where I live.. 

Then wouldn't "fog lights" be better?  Just saying.....

I like the look of DRLs, but I am yet to be convinced on their effectiveness in Australia.  If the conditions require it, I turn on my headlights and/or fog lights.

[Phil №❶]

There was never any provision for fog lights on my car. The DRL's fit nicely and naturally, are efficient led's.

[FatBoy]

There was never any provision for fog lights on my car. The DRL's fit nicely and naturally, are efficient led's.

A quick search for VN/VP Fog lights will prove otherwise.  Regardless (or irregardless for our Queensland friends), having the DRLs would provide the same result.

[Wingerdave]

There was never any provision for fog lights on my car. The DRL's fit nicely and naturally, are efficient led's.

A quick search for VN/VP Fog lights will prove otherwise.  Regardless (or irregardless for our Queensland friends), having the DRLs would provide the same result.

The problem with DRL's is that they don't cut through fog like fog lights do. I certainly wouldn't use them as an alternative.

[Wingerdave]

There are many vehicles with DRL's fitted so we do have our fair share of exposure. I have them on my 1992 Commodore because it IS quite foggy where I live.. 

Then wouldn't "fog lights" be better?  Just saying.....

I like the look of DRLs, but I am yet to be convinced on their effectiveness in Australia.  If the conditions require it, I turn on my headlights and/or fog lights.

I'm sure there's a reason for being so Nationalistic about Oz, but what's so different? It rains, it's sunny, it snows (in places). It's a bit like Spain. If DRL's have proven their worth here, then there is no reason they shouldn't work on your continent. Unless sheer bloody-mindedness is part of your vehicular legislation.

When it comes down to it, they are cheaper to run than normal headlights and don't consume as much power either.

 

[Phil №❶]

The fog lights for VP I saw looked like they came off an Austin A30. I wouldn't be seen dead with those on my car.

The idea of DRL's on MY car is to be seen by oncoming traffic, not to see in foggy conditions. I've yet to find any car whose fog lights were of any value to me when driving, especially in daylight.

[rustynutz]

Good to see some discussion..

I'm sure there's a reason for being so Nationalistic about Oz, but what's so different? It rains, it's sunny, it snows (in places). It's a bit like Spain. If DRL's have proven their worth here, then there is no reason they shouldn't work on your continent. Unless sheer bloody-mindedness is part of your vehicular legislation.

 

It's called ambient light....Our days are much brighter than you lot get over there...therefore drl's are less likely to be of benefit.

As for our legislators....If they had their way they'd have had them years ago....witness their failed attempt in making them compulsory on motorcycles back in the 90's.
I guess now they are a bit more cautious about introducing legislation without proof that it will actually be of benefit...

I'm sure it's just a matter of time though...

I have them on my 1992 Commodore because it IS quite foggy where I live.. 

Remember, Phil...as I pointed out earlier, you'll have no lit tail lights in these foggy conditions if you're relying just on your drl's...Could be a recipe for disaster! 

[CraigB]

It's called ambient light....Our days are much brighter than you lot get over there...therefore drl's are less likely to be of benefit.

How are our days more brighter than what they get in Spain they are very similar actually.

Whether you think DRL's are pointless or not...they are gradually being introduced to all vehicles so you'll just have to get used to it or stay living in the past and never again buy a new vehicle.

[rustynutz]

Whether you think DRL's are pointless or not...they are gradually being introduced to all vehicles so you'll just have to get used to it or stay living in the past and never again buy a new vehicle.

I'm just questioning the supposed benefits and trying to get you buggers to possibly consider that there may be downsides with drl's, Craig... 
Obviously down the track I'll quite likely end up with a car with drl's, doesn't mean I have to like them.
We're also gonna end up with a dpf in the diesel i30, that doesn't mean I won't buy one either...

Btw, I'd much rather question what our bureaucrats deem "good for us" than to just accept what they say as gospel like many on here seem happy to do...

[CraigB]

I see the DRL's on other vehicles everyday and I also have them on my own car so I know the benefits of having them, I also can't see what downside there could be...none that I can think of.

Life's to short to question every little change that happens, especially when it's something as small as DRL's, I'd hate to see the stir you would have caused if you'd been around when we moved from horse & cart to cars

[rustynutz]

I also can't see what downside there could be...none that I can think of.

I pointed out one just before...

I'd hate to see the stir you would have caused if you'd been around when we moved from horse & cart to cars

Would you have been in favour of the Red Flag Act then??? 

[CraigB]

What downside...no taillights? DRL's are designed to make you visible to oncoming traffic and pedestrians, if you want rear lights turn on your park lights.

We're getting miles of topic here but I wouldn't have bothered about the red flag act, as you can see they cancelled it soon after as the cars got faster

[eye30]

What downside...no taillights? DRL's are designed to make you visible to oncoming traffic and pedestrians, if you want rear lights turn on your park lights.

My drl's turn off when i put on my park lights.

And in daylight the front park lights do not stand out as the drl's do

[CraigB]

My drl's turn off when i put on my park lights.

Mine don't, they stay on with the parks and go off when I turn on the night driving lights.

I can also turn on separately my front and rear fog lights

[eye30]

My drl's turn off when i put on my park lights.

Mine don't, they stay on with the parks and go off when I turn on the night driving lights.

I can also turn on separately my front and rear fog lights

Now you have me wondering as I always have the headlight low beam on at night.

Ill check again later

[Shambles]

We're getting miles of topic here ...

Amen to that

[eye30]

My drl's turn off when i put on my park lights.

Mine don't, they stay on with the parks and go off when I turn on the night driving lights.

I can also turn on separately my front and rear fog lights

Now you have me wondering as I always have the headlight low beam on at night.

Ill check again later

Checked and drl's go off when park/side lights are switched on

[CraigB]

Checked and drl's go off when park/side lights are switched on

Mine don't, must be another difference between the Korean and the Euro models.

[FatBoy]

Stop "effin" swearing, Craig!!

Or is that the effin i30 that you go to the effin shops in?

[CraigB]

Stop "effin" swearing, Craig!!

Or is that the effin i30 that you go to the effin shops in?

One of my mates has a 57 Chev and he want's my EFN plates

[FatBoy]

Stop "effin" swearing, Craig!!

Or is that the effin i30 that you go to the effin shops in?

One of my mates has a 57 Chev and he want's my EFN plates

I'd sell him the EFN plates at an EFN premium!!

[CraigB]

He'd expect mates rates and then I'd have to tell him to get EFN lost

[Wingerdave]

Checked and drl's go off when park/side lights are switched on

Mine don't, must be another difference between the Korean and the Euro models.

Mine stay on as well with side/park lights and it's a European. For 100 euro's i can have them stay on with the headlights too !!

[Doggie 1]

So to sum up then.
DRLs are a good thing. 
Volvo had it right when they introduced DRLs on Volvos in Australia in 1975. 
DRLs make a car more visible to most people.
There.
Done.   
And by the way, not sure about a backward state like Tasmania, but in Western Australia (with the caveat that unless things have changed and I missed something), it's illegal to have fog lights on at the same time as headlights. One or the other.
This link may be helpful.   
Daytime running lights, headlights, fog lights and driving lights - Allianz Australia

[Shambles]

50 points to the moderator who separates the drl drift from the main topic   

[Doggie 1]

What's a point worth?   

[Surferdude]

I was gonna do it but I've been on my tablet not my pc. Too messy.

[Surferdude]

And Dave, the fog light rule is the same in NSW and Qld. There's a difference though.  In NSW they fine you for it. In Qld most drivers wouldn't even know they've got fog lights fitted.  Unfortunately th police take no notice.

[Doggie 1]

Drive with fog lights on over here in the Wild West when there's no inclement weather and you won't get very far.