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MODIFYING OR DETAILING YOUR I30 => SUSPENSION & STEERING => Topic started by: CraigB on March 15, 2015, 16:30:08
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Ordered the new Eibach springs on Friday so I'll have an impatient 3 week wait now for the front pair to come from Germany, rear pair are already in Melbourne.
I was told it would be a 20 week wait for the front pair as their latest shipment has already left but was then informed for $160 they could get them in a week by air :Shocked: no way was I going to pay that so they're on the slow boat for $40 :)
Looking forward to having me little hatch low and mean :happydance:
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Woop woop.
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Whats the main difference between them and Australian made springs? will you get matched damping too?
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Whats the main difference between them and Australian made springs? will you get matched damping too?
The main difference/problem is there is no Australian made springs for the Euro built i30's :disapp: but at the same time I'm happy to have the Eibachs as they're are rated as the worlds best, the drop is only going to be 20mm but the comfort will be retained ( possibly improved so they tell me ) and handling improved.
No need to change the shocks/dampers as the Eibach Pro series are tuned and tested to be a direct OEM replacement for standard setups :)
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Sounds good
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I just fitted the Eibach Pro series springs to my 2010 i30 cw.
The rear springs took me 20 mins a side and the fronts about 40 min a side.
The problem you will have as i did is the rear camber will be excessive if it's an independent rear end.
I have fitted adjustable rear upper control arms to fix this from shark racing in korea but i don't think they are legal as they aren't ADR approved.
I was thinking of getting the original upper control arms lengthened at an engineering shop once i have had a wheel alignment done and can use the adjustable ones as templates.
The front looks about 1- 2 deg negitive camber which is what i wanted, but i have whiteline front strut camber bolts if i need more or less.
I have about a 2 finger gap up front and about 1 finger gap in the rear between guards and tyre , before i could fit my whole hand, it looks so much better.
I was surprised at the ride quality as small bumps feel the same if not smoother , so on most reasonable roads it feels as good or better than stock , you do the notice bigger bumps (harsher) which is to be expected , and less body roll.
I also have a whiteline 20mm rear sway bar i fitted.
The springs take about 1000kms to settle.
I only did this 5 days ago and haven't had a wheel alignment done yet , getting it done Friday , then i will know for sure what camber i ended up with on the front and if camber bolts are needed.
I'll report back then.
So far very happy :)
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The front looks about 1- 2 deg negitive camber which is what i wanted, but i have whiteline front strut camber bolts if i need more or less.
I have about a 2 finger gap up front and about 1 finger gap in the rear between guards and tyre , before i could fit my whole hand, it looks so much better.
So far very happy :)
Sounds good.. looking forward to some photos (hint hint) :mrgreen:
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When i have had the wheel alignment done i will upload some pics.
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When i have had the wheel alignment done i will upload some pics.
:goodjob: (don't forget to use a hosting site like Imgur please)
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@ mrexcitement, what mm drop were your springs? they sound like the 40mm version :undecided: mine are only 20mm drop and with the independent rear on the GD euro built i30 there is enough adjustment in the camber/caster without needing adjustable arms.
With yours being a Korean built FD wagon I thought they were torsion beam rear ends :undecided:
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Craig, all FD's had independent rear suspension....
it was only when Hyundai bought out the GD that they swapped the rear suspension to the torsion bar setup (for those vehicles coming out of the Korean factory)... :)
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Thanks for explaining that Rusty :goodjob: I've never been anywhere near an FD model to ever look at one :)
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The spring kit i purchased part no. E10-42-016-04-22
Lowering Front: 30-40 mm
Lowering Rear: 20-25 mm
Axel-Load Front: 1090.0
Axel-Load Rear: 1050.0
Unfortunately the rear has toe adjustment only and no camber adjustment , same with the front.
I will be uploading some pictures shortly.
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Yeah yours is a completely different kit to mine, my kit lowers 20mm all round.
Wilkinson's Suspension Centre told me there is enough adjustment built in for my car, if in the event it did need extra then they'll rectify it.
Part Number E10-46-025-01-22
Axle Load FA to [kg] 980 kg
Axle Load RA to [kg] 960 kg
Front Axle
Lowering ca. [mm] 20 mm
Rear Axle
Lowering ca. [mm] 20 mm
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Photo's uploaded to imgur
Side View :(http://i.imgur.com/v80crdr.jpg)
Back Left : (http://i.imgur.com/dxIGqwB.jpg)
Back Right : (http://i.imgur.com/G1aMksP.jpg)
:)
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If you use the forum link code the pictures will show here on the forum.
Thanks for adding the forum BBC links :goodjob:
Your looks good, looks like it could drop a bit more on the front to even out the wheel to guard space to match the rear.
You can see the extra adjustment mine has below compared to the FD
(http://i.imgur.com/bZGAryw.jpg)
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Looks great, thanks for the photos... :goodjob:
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Unfortunately the rear has toe adjustment only and no camber adjustment , same with the front.
Looks nice. Ill bet its nice and tight through the corners now :D
I see rear toe and camber adjustment in the photos.
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I am hoping the front will drop some more , but my mate has a ve commodore with lowered springs and his front guard gap is bigger at the front.
The last photo is of Craigb GD , mine is the FD which doesn't have rear camber adjustment.
It feels good so far but i haven't really tested it yet as i need a wheel alignment and i know the toe and camber are wrong on the rear as i did it by eye.
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I know which is which. There are 2 adjustments on the FD pictures.
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Looking good mrexcitement... :goodjob2: :goodjob2:
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Just an update , i had the wheel alignment done and ended up with -1 Deg camber all round as per tyrepower recommendations after telling them what i wanted.
The result is awesome , i can't believe the difference it has made.
It is so stable now , quick changes in direction happen quicker and in a much more positive way than before.
It feels like it's on rails when cornering hard , now i really enjoy pushing it hard around corners whereas before it gave me no confidence to push (vague feeling).
As i said before comfort on good roads is the same or maybe a bit better , but you do feel the bigger bumps more.
Next on my list is to upgrade the shocks to bilsteins as the stock shocks are ok but the rebound damping is a fraction fast with the new springs , but i'll wait until the shocks are starting to go.
So i am very happy with the springs and new wheel alignment. :D :D :D
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Next on my list is to upgrade the shocks to bilsteins as the stock shocks are ok but the rebound damping is a fraction fast with the new springs , but i'll wait until the shocks are starting to go.
You could end up waiting very long time. I'm at 227.000 km still on the stock shocks... :P
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Next on my list is to upgrade the shocks to bilsteins as the stock shocks are ok but the rebound damping is a fraction fast with the new springs , but i'll wait until the shocks are starting to go.
You could end up waiting very long time. I'm at 227.000 km still on the stock shocks... :P
And Henning tows a large caravan quite regularly! :eek:
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Bed time for this little duck, early start in the morning to go get the Eibach springs installed :) everything is happening all at once at the moment so there will be more photos due tomorrow.
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Bed time for this little duck, early start in the morning to go get the Eibach springs installed :) everything is happening all at once at the moment so there will be more photos due tomorrow.
:happydance:
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All done, still rides very comfortably but it stays nice an level around the corners now and no nose diving under brakes, It'll settle slightly but not much.
Wilkinson Suspensions were excellent to deal with, they dropped me of at the shops in the morning ( so I could go watch the Avengers, Ultron :cool: ) and picked me up when all done, couldn't ask for better service :goodjob2:
(http://i.imgur.com/GgPhmvT.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/XccnxER.jpg?1)
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:victory:
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I might go for a bit of that myself... looks really good (and from your feedback, feels really good too) :D
/me Wonders if Wilkinson Suspensions would come to the UK for a job
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/me Wonders if Wilkinson Suspensions would come to the UK for a job
They can but it would blow out your budget :lol:
If you go for it Steve just get the 20mm drop Eibach Pro Line kit ( same as mine ), if you go the next level to the 40mm drop Sport Line kit it'll be to hard :eek:
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looking great Craig, congrates :goodjob:
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Hopefully my springs will turn up this week... I bit the bullet and ordered them as well. Gonna see how they look and then go for a body kit as well. Then I will concentrate on the performance aspect.
Cold air intake
Short shifter
X power spacer kit and headers/exhaust if I can find a good deal
Then.... hmmm not sure.
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Looking great, Craig. :goodjob:
Wilkinsons have a good reputation, as does W.A. Suspensions
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Looking great, Craig. :goodjob:
Wilkinsons have a good reputation, as does W.A. Suspensions
Thanks Dave :)
WA Suspensions are completely useless...they couldn't even give me the correct information on compatible springs and their prices were $200 more expensive :disapp:
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Hopefully my springs will turn up this week... I bit the bullet and ordered them as well. Gonna see how they look and then go for a body kit as well. Then I will concentrate on the performance aspect.
Cold air intake
Short shifter
X power spacer kit and headers/exhaust if I can find a good deal
Then.... hmmm not sure.
You do realise that once you bolt on extractors you've voided your warranty on the engine :neutral: I'm interested to know what intake kit you're going to use?
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Holy Crap, that looks good........ You should apply for a position at the Hyundai Design Center :goodjob:
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Holy Crap, that looks good........ You should apply for a position at the Hyundai Design Center :goodjob:
That'd be cool :cool: put a good word in for me :phone1: :D
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Looks good, Craig... :goodjob:
No good over here though as the front of my FD scrapes easily enough now without reducing clearance even more...
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My springs have turned up today!!! Will be putting them in next week sometime... Ended up getting the Eibach's out of Germany, even with postage they were $100 cheaper than Sydney prices and only took 10 days to get here...
Cant wait to get them in and have a lowered ride again. I haven't had a "normal" ride height since 1995ish...
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Looks good CraigB . :goodjob2:
I couldn't help myself and ordered 4 bilstein B6 shocks straight from Germany for the FD wagon.
Part Numbers
Front Left :35-193654 x 1
Front Right :35-193661 x 1
Rear :24-193672 x 2
All up delivered has set me back about $770 , where if i ordered locally i was looking at $1200 - $1300 for the set.
I will give feedback after they are on the car for a couple of weeks , as they take time to soften up.
Now i have to wait impatiently. :whistler:
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Looks good, Craig... :goodjob:
No good over here though as the front of my FD scrapes easily enough now without reducing clearance even more...
That wouldn't be a weight issue now would it Rusty :snigger:
I've not managed to scrape the underneath of mine yet but these GD's do have reasonable ground clearance.
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Looks good CraigB . :goodjob2:
I couldn't help myself and ordered 4 bilstein B6 shocks straight from Germany for the FD wagon.
Thanks :)
I'd suggest for you to open a topic of your own for Shock Absorbers as this topic is really to do with Springs on the GD version.
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Looks good, Craig... :goodjob:
No good over here though as the front of my FD scrapes easily enough now without reducing clearance even more...
That wouldn't be a weight issue now would it Rusty :snigger:
I've not managed to scrape the underneath of mine yet but these GD's do have reasonable ground clearance.
Partly, after all, I do have a diesel...but with the FD there is quite a large overhang past the front wheels...not sure how it compares with the GD. :undecided:
I regularly have the front tow hook scrape in carparks where the front of the car extends over the curb or there are curb height concrete blocks stopping you from driving too far forward...
This has been mentioned by others on this forum so its not just something that only happens to me... :winker:
I suspect with the lowered ground clearance of your GD you'll be soon experiencing similar issues... :snigger:
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I suspect with the lowered ground clearance of your GD you'll be soon experiencing similar issues... :snigger:
I doubt it, it only dropped 20mm and I've already driven it every place that I use it for, plus I know when to stop before scraping the front on car park curbing :lol:
My Clubby was only 80mm from the road and I was quite used to getting that around suburbia without scraping it :victory:
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Maybe you have lower curbing over in WA..... :undecided:
If you stop before you hang the nose of your car over any curbing here you'll have the back of the car poking out into traffic... :snigger:
Even coming out of driveways onto the road, depending on how steep it is, you'll need to come out on an angle to prevent the front from scraping... :undecided:
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Maybe you have lower curbing over in WA..... :undecided:
If you stop before you hang the nose of your car over any curbing here you'll have the back of the car poking out into traffic... :snigger:
Even coming out of driveways onto the road, depending on how steep it is, you'll need to come out on an angle to prevent the front from scraping... :undecided:
I'm not worried about Craig scraping his front (chill out Rusty!) :spitty:
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We have the same curbing Rusty, I just stop before I hit it :) I'm also very well practiced at entering and exiting driveways and speed bumps at angles :goodjob2:
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I'm not worried about Craig scraping his front (chill out Rusty!) :spitty:
I'm not worried either, Daz.... :snigger:
Oh, and I am chilled...just pointing out my experiences with my i30.... :D
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I'm not worried about Craig scraping his front (chill out Rusty!) :spitty:
I'm not worried either, Daz.... :snigger:
Oh, and I am chilled...just pointing out my experiences with my i30.... :D
You're getting way to much downforce......... just slow down for the curbs and bumps :whistler:
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Looks so good!!! makes me what a little 2 door GD model!! :goodjob: