Post by: Shambles on May 09, 2014, 08:10:20
Out with
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/th_py21w-webb_1.png) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/ShamblesX/media/py21w-webb_1.png.html)
And in with
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/GD%20i30/th__12.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/ShamblesX/media/GD%20i30/_12.jpg.html)
(eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301150513506))
I considered many styles (see our stickied post here (https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=16658.0)) but decided against the rearwards-focusing type as the reflector within the housing seems to provide the most light, meaning the bulb has to spread its light sideways for the illumination to work properly.
Post by: The Gonz on May 09, 2014, 08:41:09
Post by: asathorny on May 09, 2014, 08:43:32
I've decided to upgrade the amber PY21W rear indicator bulbs to LED.
Out with
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/th_py21w-webb_1.png) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/ShamblesX/media/py21w-webb_1.png.html)
And in with
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/GD%20i30/th__12.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/ShamblesX/media/GD%20i30/_12.jpg.html)
(eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301150513506))
I considered many styles (see our stickied post here (https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=16658.0)) but decided against the rearwards-focusing type as the reflector within the housing seems to provide the most light, meaning the bulb has to spread its light sideways for the illumination to work properly.
Photos of the job ??? :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob:
Post by: Shambles on May 09, 2014, 09:01:52
Post by: plasticphyte on May 09, 2014, 10:23:59
Post by: Shambles on May 09, 2014, 10:33:23
If they work well I'll upgrade the front set too :)
Post by: Surferdude on May 09, 2014, 10:36:11
Post by: Ugly Mongrel on May 09, 2014, 10:38:04
Post by: The Gonz on May 09, 2014, 10:40:31
Well, I for one will be happy to run with good feedback and place an eBay order for them, perhaps even a few sets to save on postage for the Adelaide membership. :victory:
Post by: Doggie 1 on May 09, 2014, 12:07:08
Photos will be forthcoming :D
Thirdcoming would be better.
Post by: The Gonz on May 09, 2014, 12:09:36
Post by: Doggie 1 on May 09, 2014, 12:15:28
I win. :D
Post by: The Gonz on May 09, 2014, 12:17:07
Post by: Dazzler on May 09, 2014, 12:43:44
Post by: AlanHo on May 09, 2014, 14:21:17
I can't recall ever having to change an indicator bulb in almost 60 years of motoring and the standard bulbs seem to work fine. (before some smart alec jumps in - yes - my first car had those flag type indicators that were a nightmare)
Post by: Shambles on May 09, 2014, 14:36:15
Having been behind two modern i30s recently, I've remarked to myself how poor the indicator kit really is.
My desire is not borne from cosmetics, but functionality - I want my flashers to be seen.
Post by: AlanHo on May 09, 2014, 14:38:59
A recent issue with flashers was last week. I was driving down a wide main road with nose to tail traffic coming the other way. An ambulance came down the centre of the road overtaking the oncoming traffic with sirens on and covered in flashing lights. It was impossible to see that he was signalling to turn right into a side road across my bows - but I slowed down just in case. It was a good job I did.
Post by: plasticphyte on May 09, 2014, 15:08:32
The indicator is either part of a wrap around assembly that can't be seen head on, or any other angle; or the lamp is a tiny little bulb barely powerful enough to even bother exciting some photons.
Post by: Dazzler on May 09, 2014, 23:44:26
I find a lot of modern cars have actually got poor indicator light placement. Especially on the front of the car.
The indicator is either part of a wrap around assembly that can't be seen head on, or any other angle; or the lamp is a tiny little bulb barely powerful enough to even bother exciting some photons.
:whsaid:
I have noticed this too!
Post by: Phil №❶ on May 10, 2014, 00:02:04
Post by: plasticphyte on May 10, 2014, 00:26:02
It also doesn't help that a lot of drivers in my neck of the woods seem to think the indicator is part of an optional tech pack, or the driver thinks the use of the indicator gets charged at $500 per flash.
Some bad examples, IMO, are certain versions of the Nissan X-Trail, recent Honda Accords.
There are a few others which, to me, are pretty horrid locations, or are next to useless thanks to their particular design.
Post by: Dazzler on May 10, 2014, 00:27:26
Post by: The Gonz on May 10, 2014, 05:11:43
Post by: Shambles on May 10, 2014, 11:40:18
LED turning bulbs (https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=26611)
Might bump his thread and ask him :D
EDIT: just read that he abandoned the idea.
Post by: Shambles on May 10, 2014, 11:59:16
I'll get on this when the rain stops :disapp:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/GD%20i30/th_IMG_20140510_114936.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/ShamblesX/media/GD%20i30/IMG_20140510_114936.jpg.html)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/GD%20i30/th_IMG_20140510_115024.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/ShamblesX/media/GD%20i30/IMG_20140510_115024.jpg.html)
Post by: The Gonz on May 10, 2014, 12:03:47
Post by: eye30 on May 10, 2014, 12:04:17
Well they've arrived (that was quick)
I'll get on this when the rain stops :disapp:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/GD%20i30/th_IMG_20140510_114936.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/ShamblesX/media/GD%20i30/IMG_20140510_114936.jpg.html)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/GD%20i30/th_IMG_20140510_115024.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/ShamblesX/media/GD%20i30/IMG_20140510_115024.jpg.html)
Nip over here it dry/sunny....
Post by: Shambles on May 10, 2014, 13:43:35
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/GD%20i30/th_IMG_20140510_131709.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/ShamblesX/media/GD%20i30/IMG_20140510_131709.jpg.html)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/GD%20i30/th_IMG_20140510_131908.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/ShamblesX/media/GD%20i30/IMG_20140510_131908.jpg.html)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/GD%20i30/th_IMG_20140510_131933.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/ShamblesX/media/GD%20i30/IMG_20140510_131933.jpg.html)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/GD%20i30/th_IMG_20140510_131952.jpg) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/ShamblesX/media/GD%20i30/IMG_20140510_131952.jpg.html)
New on nearside, original on offside:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/GD%20i30/VID_20140510_132308.mp4 (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/GD%20i30/VID_20140510_132308.mp4)
Post by: Perspective owner on May 10, 2014, 13:54:11
Post by: asathorny on May 10, 2014, 13:54:46
So, is it litteraly just a straight swap with nothing else to do? :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob:
Post by: Shambles on May 10, 2014, 14:01:33
Post by: constipated on May 10, 2014, 14:41:35
Post by: Shambles on May 10, 2014, 14:52:34
Not too impressed, though I'll see what they're like when it gets darker...
The LEDs aren't spraying any light on the reflectors, so I'm thinking of moving them to the front, where the current bulb is engulfed by the reflector.
Post by: AlanHo on May 10, 2014, 15:52:16
Post by: eye30 on May 10, 2014, 16:30:33
Post by: AlanHo on May 10, 2014, 16:47:24
Thanks for the experiment though - sorry it was not more beneficial.
Post by: Shambles on May 10, 2014, 16:55:38
So I have reinstated the originals, but as a test I installed one in the front - it's even worse :undecided:
VID 20140510 164553 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/m9W_U_usRFE)
Bulb removal is even easier than the rear, as the twist-and-turn bulb holder contains the contacts.
Can you guess which side has the LED installed?
Post by: asathorny on May 10, 2014, 17:17:43
Thank you Steve for doing the research, I will now scrap any notions I may have been carrying of using LED conversions.
:goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob:
Post by: Shambles on May 10, 2014, 17:24:27
No matter.
Anyone wanna buy a pair of... never mind :lol:
Post by: Mike SX on May 10, 2014, 18:09:20
Glad you've saved me time & more expense :)
Post by: AlanHo on May 10, 2014, 19:28:04
Post by: Dazzler on May 10, 2014, 20:17:07
Waiting until dusk is perhaps academic because the flashers are equally important by day. In my case I do far more driving by day anyway. Present evidence is that the standard bulbs are more visible by day which kinda knocks those LED's into the long grass for me.
Thanks for the experiment though - sorry it was not more beneficial.
:whsaid: and
Bloody nora, I had to run that half a dozen times before I saw that there was a flasher in the vid.... Not at all impressed.
Thank you Steve for doing the research, I will now scrap any notions I may have been carrying of using LED conversions.
:goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob:
:whsaid:
:blubber: That's a bugger, but sometimes you just have to try these things! :cool:
Post by: Phil №❶ on May 10, 2014, 23:45:11
Unfortunately, there could be insurance implications if the lights are proven to be dimmer than the originals.
As much as I like their design, I haven't bought any because the total lux output is never quoted in the eBay ad. They need to be tested in a reflector environment and rated +/- the original lamp, in the same reflector using a light meter, I'm sure Alan's got one. :razz:
Post by: The Gonz on May 10, 2014, 23:52:45
Post by: Dazzler on May 11, 2014, 00:03:58
We just got back from some 'light' shopping duties and bought a replacement Edison screw bulb for our son's 240V desk lamp. I opted for an LED variant which consumes 4W and looks just like Shambles's picture, albeit with a little extra base for the rectfication. :victory:
I guess it's sort of irrelevant in this situation, but I dislike the look of these globes which have the LED elements exposed.
Our local discount store had some household LED globes at around $8 the other day but they had the elements exposed (ugly) :fum:
For as little as $10 or $11 each I have been buying the frosted ones from Bunnings as they have the cool white/daylight whereas Woolworths mainly carries the warm white which definitely don't appear as bright as the equivalent wattage daylight globe.
So maybe a frosted LED globe might work better in a car situation as well? Did you like how I brought that back on topic? :mrgreen:
Post by: Phil №❶ on May 11, 2014, 00:10:04
Post by: AlanHo on May 11, 2014, 00:12:37
As much as I like their design, I haven't bought any because the total lux output is never quoted in the eBay ad. They need to be tested in a reflector environment and rated +/- the original lamp, in the same reflector using a light meter, I'm sure Alan's got one. :razz:
I did have a light meter until our house move last June. When I cleared the attic of the old house I found a stack of old photography stuff including my first "proper" camera - an Agfa Silette, an enlarger, processing tanks, film cassettes, film winder, developing trays, safe lights, an old Bolex projector etc - also a Weston Light Meter complete with incident light attachment. It was all disposed of via a car boot sale, Ebay and a waste skip.
Post by: The Gonz on May 11, 2014, 00:16:02
Phil, when I replaced the halogen globe in my desklamp with my homemade 'rectifier ring' of eight cannibalised keyring white LEDs, I noticed the harshness. I suspect most white LEDs go furthr into the UV band than the incandescents. :confused:
Post by: Phil №❶ on May 11, 2014, 00:31:53
UV :Shocked: , no wonder I've got cataracts.
Post by: rustynutz on May 11, 2014, 04:35:08
Post by: The Gonz on May 11, 2014, 04:38:22
Post by: rustynutz on May 11, 2014, 05:03:45
If I want to read I'd much rather a bright "white" light.... :D
Post by: Shambles on May 11, 2014, 09:26:30
Quote from: The Gonz
... a quick check for reflector-critical applications is to compare the difference in height / protrusion when fitted. :victory:
Indeed. My further research, which did not come to fruition, centred around finding a LED structure that sat closer to the pins (ie, a shorter body) while having most of its SMDs targeted at (or directed towards) the reflector.
Post by: Phil №❶ on May 11, 2014, 10:04:45
these, not automotive, though. :fum:
Ecofire 5W Dimmable E14 Mini Screw LED Candle Globe Bulb Clear Warm White | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ecofire-5W-Dimmable-E14-Mini-Screw-LED-Candle-Globe-Bulb-Clear-Warm-White-/170841427359?pt=AU_Lighting_Fans&hash=item27c6f14d9f)
Post by: Shambles on May 11, 2014, 10:41:11
Off-Topic::P
Post by: Dazzler on May 11, 2014, 13:32:22
/me:snigger: :snigger::P
I've just ordered 14 of these (makes us almost 100% LED) :victory: I got the last 14 cool white!
(only 4 outside sensor lights left now with 28 watt halogens)
3W B15 SBC Small Bayonet 10 SMD LED Candle Bulb Pure Warm White Energy Save Lamp | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/111334033749?var=410318892647&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649)
Post by: plasticphyte on May 12, 2014, 13:48:32
http://www.allledlighting.com/author.asp?section_id=3048&doc_id=559753&page_number=1
Post by: CraigB on May 12, 2014, 16:18:08
The LEDs aren't spraying any light on the reflectors, so I'm thinking of moving them to the front, where the current bulb is engulfed by the reflector.The indicator reflectors don't seem to be designed for use with LED's - probably why the Korean OEM taillights also don't use LED indicators either.
I know these one's pictured aren't your model but the functionality is all the same.
Post by: Shambles on May 12, 2014, 16:38:30
Post by: CraigB on May 12, 2014, 17:03:39
Post by: Shambles on May 12, 2014, 17:13:16
Post by: CraigB on May 12, 2014, 17:31:57
I don't know why we don't get these in Aus though but I think I'll purchase some as they look great :) LED's come on the SR models I just realised :D
Post by: Phil №❶ on May 12, 2014, 21:58:08
Stick with the original lens and replace bulbs with a good design that works, including turning light & reversing, then you'll truly be embracing led's. The trick is to find a design that has enough intensity. My suggestion is NOT to buy from the internet, because brightness in a photo is NOT an accurate indication of true output. Any photo can be made to look really bright, by altering exposure times. The only way to tell, is by observing a demo in an accessory shop.
Post by: The Gonz on May 12, 2014, 22:48:17
Post by: CraigB on May 13, 2014, 00:32:19
I wish I knew what the fascination with oem led light clusters are.There brighter which is an increased safety factor and they look good, a nice way for people to individualise their vehicles.
LED's don't have to be visually enhanced by sellers to be sold over the net, there are plenty of different car brands enhancing their cars with LED's in factory form ( OEM ) now so it's easy to notice some of them out there on the road, I've also never seen one that didn't look better than it's halogen version.
Post by: Phil №❶ on May 13, 2014, 00:54:04
Post by: Shambles on May 13, 2014, 08:26:51
I got much dimmer rear indication and non-existent front indication.
And I wasted £9.99 in the process :(
Post by: Shambles on May 13, 2014, 09:06:55
eBay 60W Cree Extreme Amber (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/581-PY21W-AMBER-60W-XBD-CREE-SMD-12-5W-CANBUS-INDICATOR-LED-EXTREME-BRIGHT-LED-/370929683616?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item565d21cca0)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/KGrHqNoEFJNRDQdKBSbmse4pg60_12.jpg~original) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/ShamblesX/media/KGrHqNoEFJNRDQdKBSbmse4pg60_12.jpg.html)
Post by: The Gonz on May 13, 2014, 09:08:15
Post by: Shambles on May 13, 2014, 09:10:54
Quote from: The Gonz
... shocking dispersion.
Yeah, I can't make my mind up whether the 'side SMDs' have convex lenses, which might help.
Further investigation required, though I'm convinced they'll be no better than my previous set, in terms of their directed focus.
Post by: AlanHo on May 13, 2014, 09:13:17
Gangs strip headlights from Range Rovers and use them to grow cannabis | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2626390/Gangs-stripping-away-LED-headlights-luxury-Range-Rovers-using-grow-cannabis-latest-car-crime-trend.html)
Post by: rustynutz on May 13, 2014, 09:13:39
Post by: Ugly Mongrel on May 13, 2014, 09:18:18
You wouldn't believe how close I am towastinginvesting yet more hard earned cash, purely in the interests of science (and our forum) :lol:
eBay 60W Cree Extreme Amber (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/581-PY21W-AMBER-60W-XBD-CREE-SMD-12-5W-CANBUS-INDICATOR-LED-EXTREME-BRIGHT-LED-/370929683616?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item565d21cca0)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/ShamblesX/KGrHqNoEFJNRDQdKBSbmse4pg60_12.jpg~original) (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/ShamblesX/media/KGrHqNoEFJNRDQdKBSbmse4pg60_12.jpg.html)
Just post the invoice on this thread, Steve. I'm sure that someone will pay for your investment in furthering the knowledge of the forum. :whistler: :D
Post by: Shambles on May 13, 2014, 09:19:27
And then I discovered this rather interesting video...
The pursuit for a proper LED indicator bulb - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKqQpy4FHp8#ws)
Post by: Phil №❶ on May 13, 2014, 09:21:03
Aren't the original bulbs 21 w ea.
The idea is to increase lumen output, not wattage. :exclaim:
Don't buy them. :fum:
Post by: rustynutz on May 13, 2014, 09:22:44
What's with 60W :question:
Aren't the original bulbs 21 w ea.
The idea is to increase lumen output, not wattage. :exclaim:
Don't buy them. :fum:
I noticed that too.... :undecided:
Post by: CraigB on May 13, 2014, 10:17:39
Post by: The Gonz on May 13, 2014, 13:39:29
Post by: CraigB on May 13, 2014, 14:04:57
Point is though, Craig, if they consume more than the originals, there's little point in the 'investment'. :whistler:Gonz I'm not referring to the first picture 60w LED's but the video where the amber platinums are 21w.
Post by: Shambles on May 13, 2014, 16:18:12
I. Want. Brighter. Indicators.
Post by: rustynutz on May 13, 2014, 16:53:06
Post by: Shambles on May 13, 2014, 17:20:54
AMBER PLATINUM 21 LED BLINKER TURN SIGNAL BULBS 7443 7444 7440 7443NA | 1 PAIR (http://www.vleds.com/7443-amber.html)
Not PY21W socket style.
Post by: Phil №❶ on May 13, 2014, 23:35:54
Who's bothered about power consumption? Not me that's for sure.
I. Want. Brighter. Indicators.
Why, the existing bulbs meet the legal specifications. People who change for LED's do so to reduce current draw, especially for turn signals.
Don't be a naughty boy, you can't always have what you want. :TutTut: :wink:
Post by: Shambles on May 14, 2014, 07:41:42
Quote from: Phil №❶
Why, the existing bulbs meet the legal specifications. People who change for LED's do so to reduce current draw, especially for turn signals.
I have a sole reason for "upgrading".
Having been behind two modern i30s recently, I've remarked to myself how poor the indicator kit really is.
:P
Post by: Losty on May 14, 2014, 19:53:41
I've always wanted to do a LED retrofit for the turn signals, but wanted to do it right the first time. Searched the Internet for months (not kidding), and according to the pros @ HiDplanet : The Official Automotive Lighting Forum (http://www.hidplanet.com) V3 Tritons were the only way to go.
These bulbs are however very expensive (200 US$ for 4 bulbs including controller/resistor) plus shipping and handling charges.
Made a short video of my lighting upgrades.
2012 Kia ceed with Denso ballasts. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KxiA8GgFLc)
Post by: Shambles on May 14, 2014, 20:31:29
Post by: Losty on May 14, 2014, 20:54:06
They are plenty bright thou - very satisfied with them. Have got them installed for 4 months now, and still haven't seen any other car on the road with this small (but very modern looking) mod (not including OEM lights / Audi's - BMW's - Merc's and so on).
Fits perfectly together with all the other lights on my car (factory drl and brake lights in LED + I've also fitted some Cree leds for backup lights and Osram LEDriving for the license plate light.)
Post by: Shambles on May 14, 2014, 20:59:56
All good stuff.
May investigate further, though I'd rather have had a simple push-fit replacement LED tower, not something that needs its own nuclear generator :lol:
Post by: Losty on May 15, 2014, 18:54:34
2012 Kia ceed V3 Triton daylight - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rav2GraluZ0)
My poor camera on my phone do however dim the output a bit, but still - you get the impression :)
Post by: asathorny on May 15, 2014, 19:12:44
2012 Kia ceed V3 Triton daylight - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwVfQmvhsIw)
2012 Kia ceed V3 Triton daylight - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rav2GraluZ0)
My poor camera on my phone do however dim the output a bit, but still - you get the impression :)
Nice n bright :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob:
Post by: Losty on May 15, 2014, 19:28:56
Post by: Dazzler on May 16, 2014, 08:42:59
Post by: CraigB on May 16, 2014, 19:55:09
Post by: Shambles on May 16, 2014, 20:16:09
Post by: CraigB on May 17, 2014, 04:56:37
Post by: Dazzler on May 17, 2014, 05:47:13
Slightly different style here 2012+ i30 XLOOK Custom OE LED Taillight Set 4pc - Korean Auto Imports (http://koreanautoimports.com/2012-i30-xlook-custom-oe-led-taillight-set-4pc/) but they are pre customised and more expensive.
Be interesting to know how much they cost to make (nowhere near those sort of $$ is my guess!) :cool:
Post by: CraigB on May 17, 2014, 10:27:46
Be interesting to know how much they cost to make (nowhere near those sort of $$ is my guess!) :cool:Not sure but the cost of custom tail lights compared to the standard one's are roughly the same.
Post by: Dazzler on May 17, 2014, 10:30:46
Be interesting to know how much they cost to make (nowhere near those sort of $$ is my guess!) :cool:Not sure but the cost of custom tail lights compared to the standard one's are roughly the same.
Yes, come to think of it Hyundai spares parts can be fairly dear for what was a budget brand!
Post by: CraigB on May 17, 2014, 10:34:42
Much more expensive buying through Hyundai though, to get LED tail lights through Hyundai I was quoted $700 per side $1400 :faint:Be interesting to know how much they cost to make (nowhere near those sort of $$ is my guess!) :cool:Not sure but the cost of custom tail lights compared to the standard one's are roughly the same.
Yes, come to think of it Hyundai spares parts can be fairly dear for what was a budget brand!
Post by: Dazzler on May 17, 2014, 10:38:47
Post by: Phil №❶ on May 17, 2014, 10:42:17
Post by: CraigB on May 20, 2014, 13:48:34
Post by: Shambles on May 20, 2014, 14:58:21
Back to bulbs again :) just found a UK site that has some Canbus one's that are possibly much brighter than we've seen so far
Except that they're the wrong bayonet fitting :rolleyes:
Post by: CraigB on May 20, 2014, 15:31:57
Your right, I had to double check mine again and the lock pins are offset instead of being directly opposite of each other, I've never seen that before :confused:Back to bulbs again :) just found a UK site that has some Canbus one's that are possibly much brighter than we've seen so far
Except that they're the wrong bayonet fitting :rolleyes:
Post by: CraigB on May 20, 2014, 15:54:25
Post by: Losty on May 20, 2014, 20:53:56
Front bulbs was also amber color, while the rears was white.
Post by: Shambles on May 20, 2014, 22:40:17
Quote from: Losty
My cee'd has different bayonet fittings front and rear. Front was straight , and rears were offset
Sounds like you bought a cut-and-shut :rofl:
cut-and-shut - Definition and pronunciation | Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary at (http://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/cut-and-shut)
Post by: Phil №❶ on May 21, 2014, 00:04:16
Your right, I had to double check mine again and the lock pins are offset instead of being directly opposite of each other, I've never seen that before :confused:Back to bulbs again :) just found a UK site that has some Canbus one's that are possibly much brighter than we've seen so far
Except that they're the wrong bayonet fitting :rolleyes:
That's so they can only be installed 1 way as the light performs 2 functions.
Post by: Phil №❶ on May 21, 2014, 00:06:14
Post by: rustynutz on May 21, 2014, 00:44:24
A bit more searching and found the correct ones :) 581 (PY21W) fitting, 21 Watt bayonet LED bulbs for cars, vans and motorcycles. (http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/581-PY21W-led-bulbs/?bulb_search=car&end=front)
Are you sure? :undecided:
I entered Shamble's car details into that site, and found the only globes that came up for indicators were conventional ones.
Post by: CraigB on May 21, 2014, 01:32:55
There the ones that came up when I entered the detail in the pic, you need to click the LED tab :)A bit more searching and found the correct ones :) 581 (PY21W) fitting, 21 Watt bayonet LED bulbs for cars, vans and motorcycles. (http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/581-PY21W-led-bulbs/?bulb_search=car&end=front)
Are you sure? :undecided:
I entered Shamble's car details into that site, and found the only globes that came up for indicators were conventional ones.
Post by: CraigB on May 21, 2014, 01:38:18
That's so they can only be installed 1 way as the light performs 2 functions.What two functions would that be? there single element indicator bulbs.
Post by: rustynutz on May 21, 2014, 01:55:13
you need to click the LED tab :)
Missed that tab, thanks... :goodjob:
Post by: Phil №❶ on May 21, 2014, 02:39:54
That's so they can only be installed 1 way as the light performs 2 functions.What two functions would that be? there single element indicator bulbs.
Was referring to the tail / stop lamp combination, not specifically turn indicators.
Post by: CraigB on May 21, 2014, 03:02:18
You got lost a bit there Phil :confused: topic of discussion is indicators :whistler: not to worry :)That's so they can only be installed 1 way as the light performs 2 functions.What two functions would that be? there single element indicator bulbs.
Was referring to the tail / stop lamp combination, not specifically turn indicators.
Post by: rustynutz on May 21, 2014, 03:07:16
Stop lights are an "indicator" that the brakes are working... :lol: :D
Post by: CraigB on May 21, 2014, 03:15:47
Post by: Phil №❶ on May 21, 2014, 04:34:51
You got lost a bit there Phil :confused: topic of discussion is indicators :whistler: not to worry :)That's so they can only be installed 1 way as the light performs 2 functions.What two functions would that be? there single element indicator bulbs.
Was referring to the tail / stop lamp combination, not specifically turn indicators.
I am easily, lost. :lol:
:ta: Rusty. :goodjob2:
Post by: marcelo_pe on September 04, 2014, 02:18:32
I'm wondering how marcelo_pe went on with his LED replacements:
LED turning bulbs (https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=26611)
Might bump his thread and ask him :D
EDIT: just read that he abandoned the idea.
Sorry for my late response! Turns out I left the forum for a while but now I'm back with some news. I got the LED tail lights and installed them successfully. It's been 3-4 for months now with them and they're just beautiful. My precious i30 looks amazing!
I'll post pictures soon! I promise.
Yup. I've abandoned my research, seeing no suitable units on the old ebay or elsewhere that would throw light backwards at the reflectors.I did the same test as you right after I got LED turning bulbs for my new awesome tail lights. With the same result, unfortunately. LED bulbs were too dim and the amber color was just hideous.
No matter.
Anyone wanna buy a pair of... never mind :lol:
Nevertheless, I managed to find a LED bulbs manufacturer that alleged their bulbs are the ultimate solution for this kind of things. But I lost the URL and can't remember the name (not the Tritons btw). So give some time to find them again. One thing I remember, the bulbs were REALLY expensive and that's why I didn't buy them at that time.
And, in some barely-related news, I'm in Australia (Brisbane) right now but leaving back home tomorrow. Guys, you have a beautiful country (and i30s!).
Cheers.
Post by: Phil №❶ on September 04, 2014, 04:29:52
I did not proceed with this because I was certain that someone would commercially manufacture what is required, apparently not. :whistler: