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MODIFYING OR DETAILING YOUR I30 => ELECTRICAL | ELECTRONIC | AUDIO => Topic started by: marcelo_pe on January 13, 2014, 21:28:50

Title: LED turning bulbs
Post by: marcelo_pe on January 13, 2014, 21:28:50
Hi all

I'm considering replacing the rear stock turning/indicator bulbs for these LED ones:

1156 150-Lumen Car Brake/Turning Signal Yellow Light Bulbs with Optical Lens (http://dx.com/p/1156-2w-150-lumen-car-brake-turning-signal-yellow-light-bulbs-with-optical-lens-pair-dc-12v-80375)

Would you think they're a good alternative? Anything else I should consider electric-wise?

My major project here is replacing the whole tail lights with those OEM LED lights from South Korea. I'm saving money for that and willing to experiment a bit in the meantime.

Much appreciated.
Title: Re: LED turning bulbs
Post by: Phil №❶ on January 14, 2014, 05:17:36
You will most likely need an electronic flasher unit as well. The standard fitted flasher unit expects a significant load (the actual lights), to make it flash at the correct rate, if at all. Led's use such little current the unit will not flash correctly. There are road rules regarding the interval of off / on ratio. The electronic units are available on eBay.
Title: Re: LED turning bulbs
Post by: The Gonz on January 14, 2014, 07:21:57
The load is expected in the form of an appreciable current, which heats the bimetal strip in the electromechanical type of flasher unit until it disconnects and the current stops flowing. It then cools and makes contact again.

The electromechanical type is an old design  - typically you can hear the metallic twang of the strip as it flexes off and onto the contacts - and I hope that Hy is using a transistorised unit instead. If you're not sure, try the LEDs anyway, no harm done in trying.
Title: Re: LED turning bulbs
Post by: Hati on January 14, 2014, 08:19:58
If they use electronic flashers, they must have some beeper on it because I can hear mine (that sound like the bimetal type) just fine. 2011 CW.
Title: Re: LED turning bulbs
Post by: marcelo_pe on January 14, 2014, 12:00:28
Thank you everyone.

I'm surprised my i30 uses an electro-mechanical flasher. It has the feel and sound of an electronic/transistor one. Anyone knows where to confirm this?

Anyways, once the bulbs are here I'll let you know guys. That will happen like in 30 days from now (DX is really slow delivering to South America).
Title: Re: LED turning bulbs
Post by: marcelo_pe on February 26, 2014, 19:52:59
Confirmed -  My 2013 i30 uses electro-mechanical flasher and flashing rate is very high with the LED bulbs.

Also, the bulbs are too pale and could not match the nice amber color of the incandescent bulb.

Not proceeding with this for the moment.

Thank you, guys.
Title: Re: LED turning bulbs
Post by: Dazzler on February 26, 2014, 19:55:46
 :ta: :disapp:
Title: Re: LED turning bulbs
Post by: marcelo_pe on February 26, 2014, 20:02:59
Ok, one last doubt.

Where can I find the current flasher unit? I'll maybe try one last time (if I find proper amber LED bulbs)
Title: Re: LED turning bulbs
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 26, 2014, 22:07:47
On eBay, as previously stated. You don't want the current flasher unit, you want an electronic flasher unit. Make sure the device is marked suitable for LED'S and the terminals are configured the same as your existing flasher unit.
Title: Re: LED turning bulbs
Post by: marcelo_pe on February 27, 2014, 13:37:23
On eBay, as previously stated. You don't want the current flasher unit, you want an electronic flasher unit. Make sure the device is marked suitable for LED'S and the terminals are configured the same as your existing flasher unit.
Thanks Phill. Sorry, with "current" I meant "actual" or "as of today".  :lol:

I want to know where the thing is installed on my vehicle.

I already found the device on eBay.
Title: Re: LED turning bulbs
Post by: Phil №❶ on February 27, 2014, 21:24:38
Here's the location on the FD model, I doubt that it is much different on the GD.

Flasher Unit.pdf - Google Drive (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8ANHWfNw-qjc3ItNnV0OGp5VlE/edit?usp=sharing)
Title: Re: LED turning bulbs
Post by: The Gonz on February 28, 2014, 03:49:45
Yep, that rapid flashing you're seeing is like panicked, shallow breathing for the bi-metal unit. The transistorised version will be a much higher output impedance, meaning it will care a lot less about how small the current draw will be. Its behaviour is governed by its design using a timer circuit and not the cyclic heating of a strip relying on current. :victory:
Title: Re: LED turning bulbs
Post by: marcelo_pe on February 28, 2014, 11:42:10
Yep, that rapid flashing you're seeing is like panicked, shallow breathing for the bi-metal unit. The transistorised version will be a much higher output impedance, meaning it will care a lot less about how small the current draw will be. Its behaviour is governed by its design using a timer circuit and not the cyclic heating of a strip relying on current. :victory:
Thanks guru!

Also thanks to Phil for that guide!
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