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Quote from: Henri on September 03, 2018, 04:27:35Quote from: nzenigma on September 02, 2018, 21:31:06Often parts of the manual also covers other procedures such as engine removal. Would ignore it at this stage, it may refer to this: that you will need to lock the flywheel at TDC before you begin to reassemble. Assume that the cam bolt is anticlockwise. That is normal, especially due to rotational direction of components, so a clockwise thread is usually noted.Referring my helicopter clockwise rotating rotor propeller which tightens anticlockwise, this bolt should open clockwise. This way propeller tightens automatically, and timing pulley should work the same. Timing marks show that engine runs clockwise so bolt should open clockwise too. when you hear funny noises from helicopter engine, please land. It's RC isn't it
Quote from: nzenigma on September 02, 2018, 21:31:06Often parts of the manual also covers other procedures such as engine removal. Would ignore it at this stage, it may refer to this: that you will need to lock the flywheel at TDC before you begin to reassemble. Assume that the cam bolt is anticlockwise. That is normal, especially due to rotational direction of components, so a clockwise thread is usually noted.Referring my helicopter clockwise rotating rotor propeller which tightens anticlockwise, this bolt should open clockwise. This way propeller tightens automatically, and timing pulley should work the same. Timing marks show that engine runs clockwise so bolt should open clockwise too.
Often parts of the manual also covers other procedures such as engine removal. Would ignore it at this stage, it may refer to this: that you will need to lock the flywheel at TDC before you begin to reassemble. Assume that the cam bolt is anticlockwise. That is normal, especially due to rotational direction of components, so a clockwise thread is usually noted.
Quote from: tw2005 on September 03, 2018, 09:30:00Quote from: Henri on September 03, 2018, 04:27:35Quote from: nzenigma on September 02, 2018, 21:31:06Often parts of the manual also covers other procedures such as engine removal. Would ignore it at this stage, it may refer to this: that you will need to lock the flywheel at TDC before you begin to reassemble. Assume that the cam bolt is anticlockwise. That is normal, especially due to rotational direction of components, so a clockwise thread is usually noted.Referring my helicopter clockwise rotating rotor propeller which tightens anticlockwise, this bolt should open clockwise. This way propeller tightens automatically, and timing pulley should work the same. Timing marks show that engine runs clockwise so bolt should open clockwise too. when you hear funny noises from helicopter engine, please land. It's RC isn't it Yes RC. If propeller is left loosen and you accelerate it rolls tight. Airflow decelerates propeller and motor tightens it. With racing drones that does not apply because they decelerate motor electrically actively for quicker motor response.But for Hyundai camshaft bolt I'm a bit confused. That's a point where car is left now. Luckily we have spare car available and this can hold.
Quote from: Henri on September 04, 2018, 04:32:34Quote from: tw2005 on September 03, 2018, 09:30:00Quote from: Henri on September 03, 2018, 04:27:35Quote from: nzenigma on September 02, 2018, 21:31:06Often parts of the manual also covers other procedures such as engine removal. Would ignore it at this stage, it may refer to this: that you will need to lock the flywheel at TDC before you begin to reassemble. Assume that the cam bolt is anticlockwise. That is normal, especially due to rotational direction of components, so a clockwise thread is usually noted.Referring my helicopter clockwise rotating rotor propeller which tightens anticlockwise, this bolt should open clockwise. This way propeller tightens automatically, and timing pulley should work the same. Timing marks show that engine runs clockwise so bolt should open clockwise too. when you hear funny noises from helicopter engine, please land. It's RC isn't it Yes RC. If propeller is left loosen and you accelerate it rolls tight. Airflow decelerates propeller and motor tightens it. With racing drones that does not apply because they decelerate motor electrically actively for quicker motor response.But for Hyundai camshaft bolt I'm a bit confused. That's a point where car is left now. Luckily we have spare car available and this can hold. I would disregard helicopter theory and follow anti-clockwise to remove the cam gear bolts.
Quote from: tw2005 on September 04, 2018, 08:49:49Quote from: Henri on September 04, 2018, 04:32:34Quote from: tw2005 on September 03, 2018, 09:30:00Quote from: Henri on September 03, 2018, 04:27:35Quote from: nzenigma on September 02, 2018, 21:31:06Often parts of the manual also covers other procedures such as engine removal. Would ignore it at this stage, it may refer to this: that you will need to lock the flywheel at TDC before you begin to reassemble. Assume that the cam bolt is anticlockwise. That is normal, especially due to rotational direction of components, so a clockwise thread is usually noted.Referring my helicopter clockwise rotating rotor propeller which tightens anticlockwise, this bolt should open clockwise. This way propeller tightens automatically, and timing pulley should work the same. Timing marks show that engine runs clockwise so bolt should open clockwise too. when you hear funny noises from helicopter engine, please land. It's RC isn't it Yes RC. If propeller is left loosen and you accelerate it rolls tight. Airflow decelerates propeller and motor tightens it. With racing drones that does not apply because they decelerate motor electrically actively for quicker motor response.But for Hyundai camshaft bolt I'm a bit confused. That's a point where car is left now. Luckily we have spare car available and this can hold. I would disregard helicopter theory and follow anti-clockwise to remove the cam gear bolts.Yep, this is what I do. Coffee break parliament at work came to the same conclusion and it has to be the truth.
Quote from: Henri on September 04, 2018, 12:51:57Quote from: tw2005 on September 04, 2018, 08:49:49Quote from: Henri on September 04, 2018, 04:32:34Quote from: tw2005 on September 03, 2018, 09:30:00Quote from: Henri on September 03, 2018, 04:27:35Quote from: nzenigma on September 02, 2018, 21:31:06Often parts of the manual also covers other procedures such as engine removal. Would ignore it at this stage, it may refer to this: that you will need to lock the flywheel at TDC before you begin to reassemble. Assume that the cam bolt is anticlockwise. That is normal, especially due to rotational direction of components, so a clockwise thread is usually noted.Referring my helicopter clockwise rotating rotor propeller which tightens anticlockwise, this bolt should open clockwise. This way propeller tightens automatically, and timing pulley should work the same. Timing marks show that engine runs clockwise so bolt should open clockwise too. when you hear funny noises from helicopter engine, please land. It's RC isn't it Yes RC. If propeller is left loosen and you accelerate it rolls tight. Airflow decelerates propeller and motor tightens it. With racing drones that does not apply because they decelerate motor electrically actively for quicker motor response.But for Hyundai camshaft bolt I'm a bit confused. That's a point where car is left now. Luckily we have spare car available and this can hold. I would disregard helicopter theory and follow anti-clockwise to remove the cam gear bolts.Yep, this is what I do. Coffee break parliament at work came to the same conclusion and it has to be the truth.Ok, So the President is now involved? Or is google translate playing with us?fallback position, this Guy.
Quote from: tw2005 on September 04, 2018, 13:04:13Quote from: Henri on September 04, 2018, 12:51:57Quote from: tw2005 on September 04, 2018, 08:49:49Quote from: Henri on September 04, 2018, 04:32:34Quote from: tw2005 on September 03, 2018, 09:30:00Quote from: Henri on September 03, 2018, 04:27:35Quote from: nzenigma on September 02, 2018, 21:31:06Often parts of the manual also covers other procedures such as engine removal. Would ignore it at this stage, it may refer to this: that you will need to lock the flywheel at TDC before you begin to reassemble. Assume that the cam bolt is anticlockwise. That is normal, especially due to rotational direction of components, so a clockwise thread is usually noted.Referring my helicopter clockwise rotating rotor propeller which tightens anticlockwise, this bolt should open clockwise. This way propeller tightens automatically, and timing pulley should work the same. Timing marks show that engine runs clockwise so bolt should open clockwise too. when you hear funny noises from helicopter engine, please land. It's RC isn't it Yes RC. If propeller is left loosen and you accelerate it rolls tight. Airflow decelerates propeller and motor tightens it. With racing drones that does not apply because they decelerate motor electrically actively for quicker motor response.But for Hyundai camshaft bolt I'm a bit confused. That's a point where car is left now. Luckily we have spare car available and this can hold. I would disregard helicopter theory and follow anti-clockwise to remove the cam gear bolts.Yep, this is what I do. Coffee break parliament at work came to the same conclusion and it has to be the truth.Ok, So the President is now involved? Or is google translate playing with us?fallback position, this Guy. No Google translate is used. President of our company may be involved. At work we have a coffee break twice in a day and one lunch break too. There are dozen engineers and fourty technicians of all kind many of them having rally or other car sport or tuning hobby. That is our parliament where discussion flows with technical minded people and all kind of opinions are released. Just pick those sounding the most reliable and follow them."Who wants to be a millionare, ask from audience" - TV show kind of system. I just can ask as many times needed.
Quote from: Henri on September 04, 2018, 19:32:05Quote from: tw2005 on September 04, 2018, 13:04:13Quote from: Henri on September 04, 2018, 12:51:57Quote from: tw2005 on September 04, 2018, 08:49:49Quote from: Henri on September 04, 2018, 04:32:34Quote from: tw2005 on September 03, 2018, 09:30:00Quote from: Henri on September 03, 2018, 04:27:35Quote from: nzenigma on September 02, 2018, 21:31:06Often parts of the manual also covers other procedures such as engine removal. Would ignore it at this stage, it may refer to this: that you will need to lock the flywheel at TDC before you begin to reassemble. Assume that the cam bolt is anticlockwise. That is normal, especially due to rotational direction of components, so a clockwise thread is usually noted.Referring my helicopter clockwise rotating rotor propeller which tightens anticlockwise, this bolt should open clockwise. This way propeller tightens automatically, and timing pulley should work the same. Timing marks show that engine runs clockwise so bolt should open clockwise too. when you hear funny noises from helicopter engine, please land. It's RC isn't it Yes RC. If propeller is left loosen and you accelerate it rolls tight. Airflow decelerates propeller and motor tightens it. With racing drones that does not apply because they decelerate motor electrically actively for quicker motor response.But for Hyundai camshaft bolt I'm a bit confused. That's a point where car is left now. Luckily we have spare car available and this can hold. I would disregard helicopter theory and follow anti-clockwise to remove the cam gear bolts.Yep, this is what I do. Coffee break parliament at work came to the same conclusion and it has to be the truth.Ok, So the President is now involved? Or is google translate playing with us?fallback position, this Guy. No Google translate is used. President of our company may be involved. At work we have a coffee break twice in a day and one lunch break too. There are dozen engineers and fourty technicians of all kind many of them having rally or other car sport or tuning hobby. That is our parliament where discussion flows with technical minded people and all kind of opinions are released. Just pick those sounding the most reliable and follow them."Who wants to be a millionare, ask from audience" - TV show kind of system. I just can ask as many times needed.Love your humour, Sounds like a place I dream of
Thanks for you reports Henri,Use the Foxwell myself good unit but some i30 updates are not available for some reasonThe hole you point to on the tensioner is probably for a pin to hold it closed until install is finished.Probably has a spring but will also rely upon oil pressure. Irrespective, get a new one.
Thanks Henri, some helpful and interesting stuff there.
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Almost there.Service manual instructions ask to remove half of the parts from engine compartment. I skipped some parts such as "remove battery tray". So far no need for that.Disassembly has been pretty straightforward and nothing special yet. Valves look good at inlet side and no any major damage is present.
Quote from: Henri on September 11, 2018, 18:27:58Almost there.Service manual instructions ask to remove half of the parts from engine compartment. I skipped some parts such as "remove battery tray". So far no need for that.Disassembly has been pretty straightforward and nothing special yet. Valves look good at inlet side and no any major damage is present.Can be deceptive, you'd have to get them leak tested. ?
Oil pressure push piston out and piston end should push toothed rod with kind of fork. That is seen on my previous message up there. Teeth are maybe 2-3 mm apart each other and that is maximum cap it should allow before next rod teeth climbs over the holder teeth. I'm not sure why it was stuck in this case. I guess that rod guide is too loose and rod can go sideways somehow and stuck.
Quote from: Henri on September 10, 2018, 05:27:10Oil pressure push piston out and piston end should push toothed rod with kind of fork. That is seen on my previous message up there. Teeth are maybe 2-3 mm apart each other and that is maximum cap it should allow before next rod teeth climbs over the holder teeth. I'm not sure why it was stuck in this case. I guess that rod guide is too loose and rod can go sideways somehow and stuck. I noticed in your first message saying that you tried to do a hill start . If you do that, you don't have oil pressure to the tensioner = no tensioner.The circa 2015 VW and possibly Skoda were having the same trouble. Rolling backwards a major do not.
This following is for someone who commented text above:I made the hill start which was the final push. But Inthink it is not a reason for failure. For other guys who commented: inlet valves can be tested with gasoline (or ethanol)