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FUEL ISSUES & ECONOMY => DIESEL => Topic started by: The Gonz on May 09, 2013, 11:09:24
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I filled up on Diesel at my favourite high flow bowser yesterday morning and reset the economy gauge. As usual, the first few metres moving out of the fuel station clocked something like 26L/100Km but by the time I got to work it was down to 4.2.
By the time I got home last night it had settled on 4.0. Today's frugal, relaxed driving with an eye on the economy gauge produced a current figure of 3.8.
I love my Frugal Firty. :D
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Dat ist good!
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I have been keeping an eye on my diesel purchases and I am consistently getting 62=63 mpg so I am very pleased. I don't do much city driving but then I don't do much motorway either, mostly rural roads (England)
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I have been keeping an eye on my diesel purchases and I am consistently getting 62=63 mpg so I am very pleased. I don't do much city driving but then I don't do much motorway either, mostly rural roads (England)
:goodjob2: :goodjob:
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Excellent. :happydance:
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That's very good Gonz, you would have to be happy with that.
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Figures are so good Gonz! I drive a 2008 manual on rural roads in the Adelaide Hills (SA, Aus) and consistently get over the 1000km for 80-85% of a tank. Under 4l/100km could not be happier with the economy.
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Great result!
Welcome to the forum Hammo5. :goodjob2:
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:welcome:, mate. SA must have some kind of economy advantage. Maybe it's the fresh air! :happydance:
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:welcome:, mate. SA must have some kind of economy advantage. Maybe it's the fresh air! :happydance:
:wttc: great to meet another happy i30 CRDi owner
Not many hills, & less traffic can help.
I get over 1,000k every tank & always have from first a 08 CRDi 5 speed & now a 11 CRDi 6 speed. If I drive for economy I can get the trip PCM to read low fuel usage numbers but I love to drive it for feel. I came down the coast average speed
87kph over the trip that was across Sydney too 4.9l/100k I'm happy as lot of twisty's &big hills all the way.
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Reviving an old thread? Anyway, just been on Mitsubishi training in the midlands so managed to clock up some miles including rural and motorway. The motorway was mostly rush hour up and down the M6 between junction 15 and Birmingham International.
Over 706.6 miles (and still 90 miles - 2 bars - left when I eventually filled up) the on board computer told me I'd done an average of 73.5mpg. I always do some spreadsheeting of fuel consumption and economy which revealed the true figure was probably closer to 69.49mpg.
This means that since purchase I have averaged 64.32mpg. Looking forward to improving this further.
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Reviving an old thread? Anyway, just been on Mitsubishi training in the midlands so managed to clock up some miles including rural and motorway. The motorway was mostly rush hour up and down the M6 between junction 15 and Birmingham International.
Over 706.6 miles (and still 90 miles - 2 bars - left when I eventually filled up) the on board computer told me I'd done an average of 73.5mpg. I always do some spreadsheeting of fuel consumption and economy which revealed the true figure was probably closer to 69.49mpg.
This means that since purchase I have averaged 64.32mpg. Looking forward to improving this further.
Excellent result and nice Avatar Picture too.. :goodjob:
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Reviving an old thread? Anyway, just been on Mitsubishi training in the midlands so managed to clock up some miles including rural and motorway. The motorway was mostly rush hour up and down the M6 between junction 15 and Birmingham International.
Over 706.6 miles (and still 90 miles - 2 bars - left when I eventually filled up) the on board computer told me I'd done an average of 73.5mpg. I always do some spreadsheeting of fuel consumption and economy which revealed the true figure was probably closer to 69.49mpg.
This means that since purchase I have averaged 64.32mpg. Looking forward to improving this further.
thats great millage and Im jealous cus either Im driving too fast or u guys are driving really too slow :P the best ave' mpg in my GD so far I got is 50.6mpg, however Ive only got like 7500 miles on the clock and I'ld say I do more city then motorway as I normally only do a motorway trip once a week.
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thats great millage and Im jealous cus either Im driving too fast or u guys are driving really too slow :P the best ave' mpg in my GD so far I got is 50.6mpg, however Ive only got like 7500 miles on the clock and I'ld say I do more city then motorway as I normally only do a motorway trip once a week.
Honestly, on these Welsh A-roads my speed is usually restricted by whatever it is I'm following. I try to do the limit whenever safe but there's always some numpty in front of me of the faith that exceeding 40mph will result in certain death, hence my average speed since purchase is 39!!! Depressingly slow.
The M6 stint was a lot of stop-start, but when actually driving a decent speed I found that 60mph - sat nav speed - appeared to be the most efficient, with economy dropping off quickly by 70mph. I find whatever the dash display says for mpg, in reality it's about 5% less than that for my car, same for speed.
Maybe your engine is still wearing in, but an average of 50.6mpg seems a little on the low side to me. Your DPF isn't stuck in Regen mode is it???? I have read about that happening before though I think it is very rare.
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thats great millage and Im jealous cus either Im driving too fast or u guys are driving really too slow :P the best ave' mpg in my GD so far I got is 50.6mpg, however Ive only got like 7500 miles on the clock and I'ld say I do more city then motorway as I normally only do a motorway trip once a week.
Honestly, on these Welsh A-roads my speed is usually restricted by whatever it is I'm following. I try to do the limit whenever safe but there's always some numpty in front of me of the faith that exceeding 40mph will result in certain death, hence my average speed since purchase is 39!!! Depressingly slow.
The M6 stint was a lot of stop-start, but when actually driving a decent speed I found that 60mph - sat nav speed - appeared to be the most efficient, with economy dropping off quickly by 70mph. I find whatever the dash display says for mpg, in reality it's about 5% less than that for my car, same for speed.
Maybe your engine is still wearing in, but an average of 50.6mpg seems a little on the low side to me. Your DPF isn't stuck in Regen mode is it???? I have read about that happening before though I think it is very rare.
it must be just me then, a mix of driving a lot more faster :whistler: and more city then motorway. So 50.6mpg is excellent for the speeds I do :lol:
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I cruised from Solihull to Ambleside via the M6 toll and M6 motorway on Friday - a distance of 176 miles. I reset the trip B, speed and economy trips before leaving. It was a warm day and little wind. Traffic flowed freely for the whole journey and I set the CC to 62 mph.
At 104 miles the trip economy was reading 67.2 mpg when I noticed it start to fall - the DPF was regenerating. It fell to 58.1 mpg by 122 miles when the DPF regen ceased then started to rise again, reaching 60.1 mpg when we reached our destination. Average speed for the whole trip was 53 mph.
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I'd put the DPF up for auction on eBay if I was you.
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that's not good , DPF.
I think we all drive differently under vastly different conditions.
istill like driving for enjoyment. ut in Sydney these days they just drive side by side all going 10kph or more below posted speed limit. and a friend I caught up with who is studying to become a vet she has been over perth two years now she was complaining abut them driving 20kph slower than posted speed limit over there.
I always drive on speed limit I have the gps speedo up for easy check . with thatout they way I had 5.0L/100k on trip pc but had been driving in Sydney two days like from sans suici to glebe then Liverpool then Penrith then carlinford so I was all over Sydney sort of got into traffic jams ad the rest. the trip c still on 5.0/100k I had travelled 1,000k since last fill up with trip p saying I had over 200k range left. I got 51L to brim so just means the pc takes time to catch up to city l/100k useage that's why you have to allow for that after driving incountry than hiting the city, you can't trust the distance to empty till it gets time to catch up. that's how or why some run out of fuel with distance to empty saying they still had 20 or 30k left. just pointing this out, I know a lot of people would aready know this.
but why are Australians all driving so slow? like 15 years back if you did not drive 10kph faster than posted speed you would have everyone rasing a finger at you. :D
please use your imagination reading this i'm trying to type on lap top keyboard :disapp:
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but why are Australians all driving so slow?
In a word, cameras. :(
Alan, case in point.
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but why are Australians all driving so slow?
I found the opposite :undecided:
When we were driving around Sydney recently in a rental car I was amazed to see people exceeding the speed limits all over the place :sweating:
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but why are Australians all driving so slow?
I found the opposite :undecided:
When we were driving around Sydney recently in a rental car I was amazed to see people exceeding the speed limits all over the place :sweating:
Dazz they slow down if there is a fixed speed camera or red light camera. or if it is a safe road to drive faster. but they go overboard slow when there is a camera ahead, we don't hide camera's in sneaky spots like some other states do & if a cop hides you will soon know about it like queensland they hide cameras just to raise money. my friend said they drive 20kph slower than speed limit holding everyone up? why, as even if there is a camera 20 slower that you are allowed is excessive. there is a law that you can be booked going too slow too. something needs to be done.
nanny states
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I've seen cameras hidden in between pine trees where you'd never expect them to be. :fum:
Speaking of economy figures :whistler:
Brimmed Ruby today and drove home l/100 from 14+ to 7.6 over about 2k's.
Went to lunch at Strathalbyn, about 15 minutes drive @ 80-90. On arrival 4.4 l/100, drove home and the overall from fill is now 5.0 l/100. Pretty good for 4 sp auto. :happydance:
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Brilliant for a 4 speed auto.
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As you would expect, it's the gear changing and city driving that wrecks everything. But on a long trip, there's really not that much difference.
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but why are Australians all driving so slow?
I found the opposite :undecided:
When we were driving around Sydney recently in a rental car I was amazed to see people exceeding the speed limits all over the place :sweating:
No................. you were going tassie speed...............
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but why are Australians all driving so slow?
I found the opposite :undecided:
When we were driving around Sydney recently in a rental car I was amazed to see people exceeding the speed limits all over the place :sweating:
No................. you were going tassie speed...............
I was trying to drive at posted speeds without getting booked :P
In some cases they were changing every few hundred metres or less :confused:
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I've seen cameras hidden in between pine trees where you'd never expect them to be. :fum:
Speaking of economy figures :whistler:
Brimmed Ruby today and drove home l/100 from 14+ to 7.6 over about 2k's.
Went to lunch at Strathalbyn, about 15 minutes drive @ 80-90. On arrival 4.4 l/100, drove home and the overall from fill is now 5.0 l/100. Pretty good for 4 sp auto. :happydance:
4.4L/100k from auto must be good Phil, i mostly am doing 100kph to 110kph now, but notice if i go slower in the 80 - 90 & not much traffic economy improves just i like to drive for enjoyment these days.
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but why are Australians all driving so slow?
I found the opposite :undecided:
When we were driving around Sydney recently in a rental car I was amazed to see people exceeding the speed limits all over the place :sweating:
No................. you were going tassie speed...............
I was trying to drive at posted speeds without getting booked :P
In some cases they were changing every few hundred metres or less :confused:
Dazz in Sydney all speed camera's are well sign posted but if there is no speed camera people drive like they should be able to , i think as long as your not exceeding the limit by more than 10kph your ok, like you went over Manly when you cross the spit heading from mosman to the northern beaches as you go down to spit brige on the down hill stretch there is a speed camera, so traffic goes at speed limit ( not 20kph lower) then you crosses bridge speed limit still 60kph posted but you are going up a very steep hill & over the top speed limit 80kph so its normal to travel up that hill at 70kph or 80kph , you were a tourist & not to know, down the same hill back toward bridge some traffic has been traveling @ 80kph & hits 60kph limit so some are still going faster & down hill, they hit spit bridge then slow down a bit up the hill toward mosman as there is a posted speed camera on the hill.
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So much to look out for up there! (and driving a strange car) :sweating: :confused:
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4.4L/100k from auto must be good Phil, i mostly am doing 100kph to 110kph now, but notice if i go slower in the 80 - 90 & not much traffic economy improves just i like to drive for enjoyment these days.
:agreed:
Could have done 100, but such a nice day we enjoyed the ride and views etc.
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Sounds like the south end of Bondi Beach on a warm day Phil :rofl:
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Hi Guys,
Had some nice economy last week.
Did 1170km, then brimmed the tank to put 44.5l to refill. (3.8l per 100km) Car computer said the same as far as l/100.
Driving between goldcoast and brisbane (average speed on the computer was 85km/hr) for those that know the stretch. Pretty much spending most of the drive on a bit over 100km/hr. Had some road works at various stages to slow me up.
No aircon was used (not sure if that makes much difference?)
I used cruise control whenever there was clear traffic.
:D
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:brilliant:
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Great result. :goodjob:
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Great result Lofty, is that a GD?
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Yep..GD Manual Diesel. Bought it almost 12months ago. Racked up 43,000km on it already. I'll be glad when the all road works on the M1 are finished between the Goldy and Brisbane! Will be booking the car in for the 45,000 km service at the dealership in a couple of weeks. Will let the Forum know how it all goes. :D
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Thanks for keeping us posted. :goodjob2:
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3.8L/100km. Holy Moly.
And I thought my car was doing well with the trip computer saying 5.1L/100km and 850km into a tank and total distance for this tank looking like 1120km with average speed 37km/hr for this tank; struggling from eastern suburbs Sydney to past Parramatta and back in morning and afternoon peak.
I know the real figure will be more like 5.4L/100km if I'm lucky when I fill. I do brim though.
3.8 is stuff of dreams for me. I doubt the FD could get that. The lower gearing of the GD must help.
Have never taken the car for a country holiday as that often involves the whole family therefore the i30 stays in the garage.
Can only wonder how the economy would be with average speed 85km/hr.
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As I've said elsewhere on this fabulous forum, in my FD diesel manual (5 speed) my average tended to be usually @ 6.2 l/100 km.
In my GD diesel manual (6 speed), same driving, same driver, etc I tend to get on average @ 5.2 l/100 km.
It's a rare occurrence that I don't reach 1,000 + kms per tank and bearing in mind the Aussie spec GD tank is smaller than the FD tank, gotta be happy with that. :D
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Talking of family holidays. Last January I bought a roof box (pretty boxy looking thing from Super Cheap).
Did a trip from the Goldcoast - Tamworth (nsw) - Bright (Vic) and was getting 5.2l per 100km. Car was fully loaded (including the Mrs and 5 yr old). Glad we've only got the one child though.
Drove the inland route, so not much problem getting stuck in big city traffic. Don't recall average speed, but never went over 100km on the highways.
Must say I am surprised that the actual economy figures are closer to the Manufacturers claims.
Our other car is a Honda CRV (sucks about 10l/100km). So essentially saved half the cost in fuel for the trip by taking the I30.
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Well done. :goodjob2:
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That's great. :goodjob2:
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:wts: :happydance:
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Writing to you guys from Sydney. I drove the nearly 1000km trip down to Sydney over the last two days and can report a personal best for fuel economy figure!!~ :) I got 4.99L/100km. I am VERY happy with this as I wasn't light light on the peddle but I wasn't hard either. I am glad and no long sceptical of sub-5's figures anymore!! it can be done !! I have a 2011 CRDi, 6 speed manual. The fuel light came on and I did another 50km with the light on!! I filled up with 48litres of diesel once in sydeny. That means I still had 5 L left and thus about 100km to go. That mean my light comes on at about 130-150km til' empty. Amazing! Stoked :) I will be driving the inland route back home and I doubt I will get that figure again as its very hilly haha!
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3.8L/100km. Holy Moly.
And I thought my car was doing well with the trip computer saying 5.1L/100km
My thoughts, too.
Mine's got 22,000 km up now. It has a mixed use of commuting to work (which is mostly 80/100km/h stuff) and trips on the freeway to Melbourne. My average is 6.1 if you can believe the trip computer, with ave speed of around 50 km/h.
Best i've seen, and only briefly is 4.9l/100km. I usually get around 700 km between fills (and no, I don't "brim" it). I generally fill up with whatever diesel that BP sells. Sometimes I fill up at a local Caltex servo or one between here and Melbourne, but that's about it.
I tried driving it like a pussy for a while. In the end I gave up and now I drive it normally. It made bugger all difference to the car's economy.
Having said that, it's still cheap as chips to run.
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Current tank, trip computer shows 5.0 l/100k. There is no stop start driving, mainly freeway at 90 kmh <- :mrgreen:
4sp Auto :happydance:
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(http://people.aapt.net.au/ferngonz/5ebi/odo.jpg)
50+Mm and still as economical. :happydance:
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Today I saw 1000 ks come up with the needle still on the 1/4 mark, but ever so slightly to the left of the mark if I was being really honest.
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Writing to you guys from Sydney. I drove the nearly 1000km trip down to Sydney over the last two days and can report a personal best for fuel economy figure!!~ :) I got 4.99L/100km. I am VERY happy with this as I wasn't light light on the peddle but I wasn't hard either. I am glad and no long sceptical of sub-5's figures anymore!! it can be done !! I have a 2011 CRDi, 6 speed manual. The fuel light came on and I did another 50km with the light on!! I filled up with 48litres of diesel once in sydeny. That means I still had 5 L left and thus about 100km to go. That mean my light comes on at about 130-150km til' empty. Amazing! Stoked :) I will be driving the inland route back home and I doubt I will get that figure again as its very hilly haha!
Great result. :goodjob:
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Coventry UK - Sosnowiec Poland - 3 persons + full car of diving equipment and bags:
1072 miles
78,77 diesel
comp: 63,7 mpg
calculated: 61,54 mpg
First filled up on Shell in Muldental Nord after 741 miles.
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Coventry UK - Sosnowiec Poland - 3 persons + full car of diving equipment and bags
I take it that the diving equipment was used for the Channel crossing...
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Coventry UK - Sosnowiec Poland - 3 persons + full car of diving equipment and bags
I take it that the diving equipment was used for the Channel crossing...
along with the one hell of a long snorkel for the car :rofl:
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my i30 "Percy" sits on anywhere between 5.1-5.5 and I probably do about 1/3 of that is highway driving with the rest being 60km zones with lights so I am pretty happy still cost me about the same in fuel as my camry that I had running on nos
I am however itching like crazy to see it under 5 and I want to join the 1000km a tank club :blubber:
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my i30 "Percy" sits on anywhere between 5.1-5.5 and I probably do about 1/3 of that is highway driving with the rest being 60km zones with lights so I am pretty happy still cost me about the same in fuel as my camry that I had running on nos
I am however itching like crazy to see it under 5 and I want to join the 1000km a tank club :blubber:
I drive mainly on major arterial roads and constantly get 100 kms out of a tank at @ 5.1 to 5.3 so not sure why you're not.
Are you brimming?
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I'd be complaining if I were you, db08. :fum: :mrgreen:
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
You don't miss a trick, do you?
I meant 1,000 kms. :D
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:lol: That's better. :goodjob2:
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my i30 "Percy" sits on anywhere between 5.1-5.5 and I probably do about 1/3 of that is highway driving with the rest being 60km zones with lights so I am pretty happy still cost me about the same in fuel as my camry that I had running on nos
I am however itching like crazy to see it under 5 and I want to join the 1000km a tank club :blubber:
I drive mainly on major arterial roads and constantly get 100 kms out of a tank at @ 5.1 to 5.3 so not sure why you're not.
Are you brimming?
No I haven't brimmed it before that must be the secret I'm guessing.. I think I read somewhere on here that you can hold about 60L? Although if you were getting 4.7L per 1000 you would get over 1000km with a 53L tank
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I got well over 60 litres (up to 63 litres) in my previous FD i30 which officially had a 53 litre fuel tank capacity.
In my GD (with a 50 litre fuel tank capacity) I can get 53+ litres into it.
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db008 has a slight problem with numbers. :whistler:
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It appears you do too Gonz. :rofl:
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Yes, it does, doesn't it. :whistler: :rofl:
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:eek: It was intentional, db0008. :head_butt:
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Once in a while you're reminded that economy has SO much to do with driving style.
Today with the spare fitted without any balancing done, I was very 'sparing' with the accelerator (and brake) and drove rather gingerly all day.
My economy figure now reads 4.0. :eek:
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Miles per gallon? :undecided:
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Miles per gallon? :undecided:
Cops per kilometre
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:rolleyes: :lol:
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I can beat all your economy figures,I'm driving something now that is on getting 1.9 K/per litre,that's a mere 52.6 L/100 k :lol:,thankfully I aint paying for it :sweating:
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Once in a while you're reminded that economy has SO much to do with driving style.
Today with the spare fitted without any balancing done, I was very 'sparing' with the accelerator (and brake) and drove rather gingerly all day.
My economy figure now reads 4.0. :eek:
Gonz i know what you mean by the term ( gingerly ) but how did that term come about? like someone like ginger megs i'm sure would not drive that way . :question:
i was thinking, driving like i had an egg under the throttle
Great economy!
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...driving like i had an egg under the throttle
:eek: is that something you guys do, down under?
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...driving like i had an egg under the throttle
:eek: is that something you guys do, down under?
Only if we can afford to shell out for a new egg.
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Ha,ha,ha, very funny, what a yolk. :lol:
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Don't poach my jokes. :D
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I know what you're like when you're angry, I'd better scramble to safety. :happydance:
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Don't forget your eggs, Benedict.
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'Gingerly' is thought to come from a Latin root meaning “well-born”. It has nothing to do with the other sort of root, the tropical spice called ginger (whose name comes, much distorted, from a Dravidian language of the Indian subcontinent).
The Latin word was genitus, which is closely connected to other words associated with birth and reproduction, such as genital, congenital and progenitor. Strictly, genitus meant merely “born” or “begotten” (it’s the past participle of the verb gignere, to beget) but seems to have implied a person who was born into a noble or wealthy family. After about 1000 years or so, this turns into the Old French gensor, meaning delicate or dainty (from gent, noble) and 500 years later still is first recorded in English in much its modern form.
In its early days in English it was associated specifically with dancing or walking. If you did these things gingerly you took small elegant steps. In 1583 a writer referred to such dancers “tripping like goats, that an egg would not break under their feet”. As you might gather from this, the word was then rather negative in tone, suggesting a mincing or effeminate way of moving.
Our modern sense, of moving carefully so as not to injure oneself, cause damage or make a noise, first appears about 1600. I don’t know the Australian sense, but it does neatly express that idea of requiring cautious movement on a morning after the night before.
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Thanks Gonz,now I have a freakin headache,from information overload :whistler:
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:lol:
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I read through that diatribe quite gingerly
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Just read through this thread, and have to say I'm really impressed by some of the numbers people are getting. Can't wait to try for myself when the new i30 gets here!
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Just read through this thread, and have to say I'm really impressed by some of the numbers people are getting.
Yeah, I'm "impressed" too...
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A few days ago the fuel warning light came on at 1302 klms. That was on almost a completely full tank of fuel. Those klms included probably 600 to 700 klms of highway driving, well under the speed limit. When I fill it up again soon I might do any/all highway driving a bit closer to the speed limit or on the limit and see how much that effects economy.
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The most I have ever managed to get out of a tank from my three 1.6 CRDi i30's have been :-
2010 FD Hatch 621 miles (998 km)
2012 GD Hatch 744 miles (1197 km)
2013 GD Tourer 705 mils (1134 km)
I don't believe it possible for us in the UK to ever match the Aussie economy figures - we have much lower average temperatures, DPF regeneration, and congested motorways all against us.
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Alan I've managed 660mls with 42mls on computer in my 2010 CRDi but only 552 with 51mls on computer in my 2011 CRDi this is with brimming the tank and frugal driving.
I30sean
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