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Title: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Keith on August 31, 2010, 19:57:12
Has anyone created a Register for Rattles & any suggested fixes?

It seems these are non-model specific & from extensive reading it's probably the single most mentioned thing annoying owners. I'm sure it would also help Hyundai improve the standard of quality on cars leaving both Czech & Korean factories further.

Rattles & odd noises and the absence of such are a defining feature of quality and average cars.
Title: Re: Rattle Register?
Post by: Shambles on August 31, 2010, 20:35:55
Has anyone created a Register for Rattles & any suggested fixes?

Not on this forum they haven't.

Yet :D

What would you suggest as an index to the register? Sounds like a fine idea though I suspect it will be very subjective; we've had members reporting "jingle noises" at the passenger compartment whilst driving, just for their passenger to report the same sound from a different area of the cabin, just to find out it was loose sunnies in the overhead dropdown :rolleyes: :lol:

Give it a go - start a thread off
Title: Re: Rattle Register?
Post by: Keith on August 31, 2010, 22:22:24
Theres loads to go on already on the i30 Forum, I spent a good hour readin & digesting them lol! No personal experiences yet but I'd suggest :-

Interior rattles / buzzes / squeaks
Front end knocks / clonks
Rear end creaks / groans

In all these the first generic advice must be to remove ANY potential sources like loose change, tools, shopping & spare wheels... employ a friend / colleague / member of the family to corroborate, then Post a Thread inthe appropriate section. Then compile a "Rattles FAQ" section where owners can browse & Post questions,queries & solutions into Sticky based sub-sections?

I'm sure theres plenty Mods on here more than capable  :)

Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: bumpkin on September 01, 2010, 08:55:49
OK Ffoxy, I have moved this into problems and issues for you and your generic advice forms the first parts of the post, now it is up to the members who have had rattles/squeaks/clonks and groans to post their problem and the solution if one found. :D

I have to say though that despite you thinking this is a major "fault" with the i30 that the fact folks can only find a glovebox rattle as a downside indicates in general that the i30 excels in the other areas leaving the human mind (which has to moan about something) feeling a bit left out so we concentrate on finding that something :razz:
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Keith on September 01, 2010, 09:45:02
OK Ffoxy, I have moved this into problems and issues for you and your generic advice forms the first parts of the post, now it is up to the members who have had rattles/squeaks/clonks and groans to post their problem and the solution if one found. :D

I have to say though that despite you thinking this is a major "fault" with the i30 that the fact folks can only find a glovebox rattle as a downside indicates in general that the i30 excels in the other areas leaving the human mind (which has to moan about something) feeling a bit left out so we concentrate on finding that something :razz:

Cheers bumkin, I wouldnt dare say its a "fault" as such, just seems to be a big hitter in terms of complaints. Thinking here how a potential i30 buyer might interpret things like rattles etc... smacks of poor build quality when the opposite seems to be the case if all Threads / Posts are read first. I can see a lot being down to nothing, I know Fiats suffer with worn drop-links on the front end causing many similar such complaints about rattles going at low speed over uneven surfaces for example... but I dont have my i30 yet so I have no idea if the front suspension is the same set-up...
Title: Re: Rattle Register?
Post by: 2i30s on September 01, 2010, 10:31:38
Has anyone created a Register for Rattles & any suggested fixes?

Not on this forum they haven't.

Yet :D

What would you suggest as an index to the register? Sounds like a fine idea though I suspect it will be very subjective; we've had members reporting "jingle noises" at the passenger compartment whilst driving, just for their passenger to report the same sound from a different area of the cabin, just to find out it was loose sunnies in the overhead dropdown :rolleyes: :lol:

Give it a go - start a thread off
and even tictacs in the console rattling around.  :lol:
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Mike SX on September 01, 2010, 11:11:20
the human mind (which has to moan about something) feeling a bit left out so we concentrate on finding that something :razz:
Well put.
Electrical Inspectors would arrive to "check" the Control Panels we had manufactured, and to justify their visit,
would "nit pick", and waste time looking for any problem, ("opinion engineering"), so we created an "obvious" omission, ie. no main earth cable, they would seize on this, and checked no further :wink: We always commisioned on site anyway :)

Now keeping to the subject, my i30 has always had a "buzz" at about 30mph, from the empty glovebox area......, seems most of them have.
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Dazzler on September 01, 2010, 11:17:25
Now keeping to the subject, my i30 has always had a "buzz" at about 30mph, from the empty glovebox area......, seems most of them have.


That was the only one I had.. Never did find the source (Mine did it at about 100kph  :mad:)

Someone did post a fix (Some lugs in the firewall under the dash I think)
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Mike SX on September 01, 2010, 11:22:46
Someone did post a fix (Some lugs in the firewall under the dash I think)
Thanks, I'll start there.
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: bumpkin on September 01, 2010, 12:06:39
Yeah, I have the glovebox buzz also, there are three cures in my car

1.  Empty all the crap out of it.
2.  Open the glovebox and close it again.
3.  Turn up the radio/wife/child.

 :razz: :razz:
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Mike SX on September 01, 2010, 12:14:05
the glovebox buzz
Couldn't you introduce this as a new dance, at your classes :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Keith on September 01, 2010, 12:44:36
I'm lovin this Forum already... :mrgreen:

Members clearly feel they have good cars despite (or in spite of?) the few technical / mechanical issues... The humour is up & morale is high... 3 sleeps left lol!
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: bumpkin on September 01, 2010, 15:04:57
the glovebox buzz
Couldn't you introduce this as a new dance, at your classes :lol: :lol:


 :idea: :idea: :idea: :wink:
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Shambles on September 01, 2010, 17:42:59

A single thread like this will quickly become disjointed. What you need is a growing series of topics, in this section, with headings along the idea you first mentioned...


Interior rattles / buzzes / squeaks
Front end knocks / clonks
Rear end creaks / groans


Then when a new source of irritation comes along, a new topic can be started with members own experiences of how they detected it, what any passengers they carried thought of it, and the resolution if one was found :D

Now, snap to it!
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: eye30 on September 01, 2010, 18:13:51


Then when a new source of irritation comes along, a new topic can be started with members own experiences of how they detected it, what any passengers they carried thought of it, and the resolution if one was found :D


Isn't that what happens now anyway
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Shambles on September 01, 2010, 18:20:50
Isn't that what happens now anyway

Yes, but with each occurrence under its single parent topic on a per "rattle type" (aka, annoyance) they would all be neatly catalogued :)

So we could start with the three topics as mentioned, then when a new one is found it would have its own topic, to which folk add their experiences (and fixes)
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Keith on September 01, 2010, 22:18:27
C'mon chaps sort it lol! I'm sure Forum members would love it, especially if the noise criteria was Searchable...

Who's the Top Mod then... show us the skills!  :idea:
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Shambles on September 01, 2010, 22:27:45

Who's the Top Mod then... show us the skills!  :idea:

Nowt to do with modding mate. This is a green forum and your leaves count. If you want this topic to develop, start it off or forever hold your pieces :P

You've got 48 hours to comply...


Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Keith on September 02, 2010, 10:13:20
Oritey... So how do I create a section called Rattle Register within Tips & Ideas for starters... or cant I..? Once that is done how do I move all Threads & Posts about "noises" into that section? Then we can utilise all the green leaves on this particular tree to arrange said section into one that makes easy reference for anyone looking for help or moral support lol!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: snowcherry on September 02, 2010, 13:39:49
i think ffoxy is after an entire subforum? maybe? which the admin has to set up.

you have a couple issues here
putting just threads within 'NON MODEL Specific' will get lost. new people will just start their own new thread than add to a existing thread, it all gets lost in amongst the other topics.

to have just one stickied topic ends up going all over the place conversation wise, and you lose track of who's doing what unless that topic is purely where the first post gets updated each time a new rattle gets found/fixed. tiresome for whoever is supposed to be looking after it. good intentions etc...

to have a subforum e.g PROBLEMS & ISSUES / RATTLE REGISTER is better in the regards that every thread will relate clearly to it, but i think would not get enough traffic to warrant it.

anyway my pesky 2 cents  8)
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Keith on September 02, 2010, 13:58:26
Thanks for that Snowcherry, I dont want to screw things up, but I'd love to help others. Been very active on a Forum for my car I am moving out of for the i30, & I fully appreciate what you say about digressing from the main issue, always happens when people are passionate about something, as we are about the cars we drive lol! Just seems sensible that anyone Searching for rattle, noises etc should go to a single point of reference & that we could have a Link that anyone who fails to Search before Posting can be referred to.

As you say, there may not be that much activity to warrant special treatment for rattlers lol... but honestly, as an outsider looking in, solutions to rattles Posted in here could really help Hyundai better the already good breed...

Loved the bit from Germany's own Auto-Bild about the i30 being the best & most reliable car in its class especially! One in the eye for BMW & V.A.G, not to mention all the overhyped other Premium graded manufacturers!
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: babis_xo on September 03, 2010, 13:52:37
to have a subforum e.g PROBLEMS & ISSUES / RATTLE REGISTER is better in the regards that every thread will relate clearly to it, but i think would not get enough traffic to warrant it.


I believe you're right, at least for the first part :D
Further i think that, as seen for myself in this forum, no rattle has the exactly same source /cause (ok, maybe there are a couple of exceptions). Of course i reffer to "normal" rattles caused by unshapely /disjoint /loosen plastics etc.
Unless we want to include here, rattles caused by mechanical problems... But then, this is almost what we already do :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Dazzler on September 03, 2010, 22:22:37
Oh.. and we need a section to talk about the rattle section we are going to have... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: babis_xo on September 08, 2010, 12:41:27
Oh.. and we need a section to talk about the rattle section we are going to have... :rolleyes:

 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Keith on July 26, 2012, 00:06:52
Right... Hello again boys and girls...

I think I have worn drop-links...

I get a dull rattle from the front suspension on uneven roads, sounds exactly like my Fiat did when the Drop-links went.

4 years old, 33,000 miles... anyone else had it?

I did a Search for Drop links and only came up with the generic rattle Posts / Thread.

Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Dazzler on July 26, 2012, 02:11:07
Sure it is not the steering collar rattle Keith?.. Compare notes with Steve (Shambles) by PM maybe, as I think he had his replaced (there was a TSB on here at one stage)  :cool:
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Shambles on July 26, 2012, 07:37:26
Can you make a recording of the sound from different areas in your cab?

I can float the TSB that Dazz mentioned over to you if you want - it's got the vin range documented within which affected models may lie.
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Keith on July 26, 2012, 15:11:13
TBH I think I have the steering collar rattle but only when I turn hard left at certain speeds on certain surfaces, but it hasnt got worse since I noticed it about 2 or 3 days after I bought it.
No this dull rattle is new... and as I say very like the rattle I had in my Fiat when the Drop links went. Its hard to hera yet... so recording would be real tough... but really does sound like its coming from her sussies...
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Keith on August 03, 2012, 08:37:31
Yup...   :goodjob2: :goodjob:
Drop links.
Changed both last night after dinner and my rattles have gone!  :mrgreen:
38,000 miles and 4 years old, the originals were as slack as Alices draws...  :scared:
Took some persuading to get off mind you with the rust on the threads but well worth the 2 hours work.
Oh and I got the pair of new ones for £13.50 incl postage off E-Bay after my local Motor Factors jointly colluded to try to get £45 out of me...
Yes £22.50 each they wanted...  :faint:
If they last 12 months that will be a bargain, the car drives perfectly again... Well Happy!  :lol:
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Shambles on August 03, 2012, 09:30:31
Changed both last night after dinner and my rattles have gone!  :mrgreen:
Take any "how to" pics, or any pics of the worn ones? Shame on you :P

Great news that it's sorted. Quite cheaply too by the sound of it. I'm guessing you bought them off eBay seller "eemotorspares".
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Keith on August 03, 2012, 09:40:37
Changed both last night after dinner and my rattles have gone!  :mrgreen:
Take any "how to" pics, or any pics of the worn ones? Shame on you :P

Great news that it's sorted. Quite cheaply too by the sound of it. I'm guessing you bought them off eBay seller "eemotorspares".

Steve its so easy I dont think anyone who fancies trying to do it would need a "how to".

Yes I think you are right about the e-bay seller seems to ring a bell, if anyone would like a talk througfh replacement let me know and I'll gladly do a blow by blow resume.  :goodjob:
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: eye30 on August 03, 2012, 11:08:39
Changed both last night after dinner and my rattles have gone!  :mrgreen:

Not into the Olympics then.....

Or was this a new Olympic sport - Drop Link Snatch - and you won Gold...
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Keith on August 03, 2012, 11:10:42
Changed both last night after dinner and my rattles have gone!  :mrgreen:

Not into the Olympics then.....

Or was this a new Olympic sport - Drop Link Snatch - and you won Gold...

I took time out to watch Chris Hoy & the boyz take Gold AND break 2 World Records on the same night!
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Shambles on December 29, 2013, 16:38:29
Changed both [drop links] last night after dinner and my rattles have gone!  :mrgreen:


Steve its so easy I dont think anyone who fancies trying to do it would need a "how to".

... if anyone would like a talk througfh replacement let me know and I'll gladly do a blow by blow resume.  :goodjob:

Time to get mine inspected I think, though I'm not sure whether the problem is at the rear or front. Sure sounds like something's loose in my boot, but the clunking sound travels all along the nearside when driving slowly.

Can you tell just by looking underneath which drop links need replacing? Are they under pressure while resting or can I grab them and shake to test the wear? It's dark and damp here so no chance of looking tonight. I'm guessing the rear drop links look the same as the front drop links...?
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Keith on December 29, 2013, 16:56:37
Changed both [drop links] last night after dinner and my rattles have gone!  :mrgreen:


Steve its so easy I dont think anyone who fancies trying to do it would need a "how to".

... if anyone would like a talk througfh replacement let me know and I'll gladly do a blow by blow resume.  :goodjob:

Time to get mine inspected I think, though I'm not sure whether the problem is at the rear or front. Sure sounds like something's loose in my boot, but the clunking sound travels all along the nearside when driving slowly.

Can you tell just by looking underneath which drop links need replacing? Are they under pressure while resting or can I grab them and shake to test the wear? It's dark and damp here so no chance of looking tonight. I'm guessing the rear drop links look the same as the front drop links...?

Rear ones are shorter Steve. Yes that are under stress mounted and no you can't easily inspect / test. I will say tho that the slightest slack in either end results in noise you really wouldn't expect from such little movement. I'd say, on reflection, buy OEM as I think my non-OEM ones were on the way out when I traded her in after not much time or many miles really, they were cheap tho at £11.00 a pair!
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Shambles on December 29, 2013, 17:23:25
Thanks Keith. I guess using a trolley jack under the chassis isn't going to relieve the stress to make removal easier.
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Asterix on December 29, 2013, 17:36:39
Thanks Keith. I guess using a trolley jack under the chassis isn't going to relieve the stress to make removal easier.

Yes it will. As soon as the Wheel is off the ground you can change the drop links. You propably won't be able to feel the slack in the drop links before removed from the car.
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Shambles on December 29, 2013, 19:00:49
Ooh. Armed with all this new information I can't wait to get started :eek:

Shame on me not being able to work out if its the front or rear  :-[

Thanks ladies :goodjob:
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Keith on December 29, 2013, 21:25:52
I was convinced it was from the rear Steve... But it wasn't.

Same when the drop-links went on my Fiat, I'd have bet money it was from the rear!

Easy job mate, jack it, stand it, wheel off makes access easy peazy.

Spray on some releasing fluid a few hours before you start.

All up with everything to hand, probably 60 a 90 mins all done.
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Phil №❶ on December 29, 2013, 21:31:09
60 to 90 minutes.  :Shocked:

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Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Asterix on December 29, 2013, 21:33:06
Where your driveway meet's the road there's often a difference in level. On that hump you can often hear if the knocking comes when frontwheels or backwheels goes over that hump.
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Keith on December 29, 2013, 22:06:57
PDG that Phil! :Shocked:
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Shambles on December 31, 2013, 09:39:37
Front N/S drop link wobbly as hell.

Dropped her into a local mech at 8am - I'll let them rap their knuckles  :undecided:

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Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: eye30 on December 31, 2013, 10:39:12
no arguing with the boss with that dog!
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Shambles on December 31, 2013, 19:13:02
Forgot to update.

Front droppers replaced, rattle-free ride. All up cost was £50, not bad seeing it included OEM drops which they had to drive out to pick up :D
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Keith on December 31, 2013, 19:50:21
My local Factors wanted £40 for a pair of OEM links so that's great value IMO Steve.  :goodjob2:
Title: Re: Rattle Register - Post your issues and fixes here@Ffoxys fixes - BINGO!
Post by: Phil №❶ on December 31, 2013, 21:43:18
Excellent result & price.  :goodjob2: :goodjob:
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