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MODIFYING OR DETAILING YOUR I30 => TYRES | WHEELS | BRAKES => Topic started by: Green Machine on July 31, 2011, 02:53:19
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Howdy,
while I am pleased with the overall handling of the i30 (ride in general), I find it's performance with the standard wheel/tyre (SX 15"steel rims) to be a little disappointing. In hard cornering it always feels like the tyres are trying to fold underneath at the front. To top this off, the stock kumho solus 195/65 R15 are probably the grippiest pieces of igneous rock ever to be hewn into a circular shape (ie not very).
I am going to get a set of wheels to appease the minister for war and finance (especially after I made her give up the WRX), and my question is this -
Do I just get a set of 15" mags with wider/gripper tyres, or do I splurge a bit and get a 17" wheel package?
I don't really want to lose any of the ride comfort by going to big wheels (hence I wouldn't even think about going bigger than 17"), but I am also aware that tyres bigger tyres cost more, as do bigger wheels to begin with. I was thinking about $1000-$1400 as a budget.
I'm pretty sure the car would handle a lot better with the lower profile wider tyres (less sidewall movement, better cornering grip), but I'm just not sure which way to go, and would appreciate some opinions.
BTW, feel free to add your view on tyre colour/design. At the moment, I'm leaning towards 5/6 spoke dark grey/black on a red car. I'm more function than form, so I prefer wheels that are easy to clean, and they don't necessarily have to fill the arches.
Cheers,
GM
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Any reason you're not considering 16" wheels as a good compromise between comfort and handling? :undecided:
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Green Machine, like you, I prefer wheels which are easier to clean than some of the fancy stuff which is around today. As Rusty says, consider 16" as an option as well. Go see a couple of tyre specialists who also offer a range of wheels.
Personally I'd recommend you go with a chain - Bob Jane and Jax are probably the best for wheels.
If you've come out of a WRX, I don't imagine the 17" package would cause you too many concerns as far as noise/ harshness are concerned.
Try to pick a tread pattern which isn't too radical or with large shoulder blocks.
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Would these be any good?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5-wheels-tyres-Hyundai-Ford-Mazda-done-3-800-kms-/300582131673?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item45fc1757d9 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5-wheels-tyres-Hyundai-Ford-Mazda-done-3-800-kms-/300582131673?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item45fc1757d9)
I like the OEM look myself, even if there off a different car.
The price is too high, Hyundai wheels don't seem to be getting much price wise and I would be making an offer after the sale ends.....Though I lost a set of 16 inch i30 slx wheels with the same attitude (sold before auction ended) so I wouldn't listen too much to me.
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Hey Beerman,
while it doesn't seem like too bad a price, the wheels themselves look a little busy (ie lots of nooks and crannies for brake dust to hide), and being a really light colour, it would show up virtually the first drive after you cleaned them. Another reason why I'm big on darker wheels.
I suppose I haven't ruled 16" out exactly - a friend of mine test drove an SLX and he thought the steering felt a bit strange compared to the 15" wheels. I must say though I haven't driven on 16's, so I can't compare myself. It wouldn't bother me getting 16's.
I'd really like to be able to turn the lil i30 into a bit of a hot hatch for the wife - chip & k&n already installed, exhaust and wheels next. Then she might be a bit happier with it - she still pines over her lost love.
I say get over it, but apparently that's not the best move on my part.... :scared:
Suferdude,
I agree regarding where to get wheels from. Chains generally have better buying power, and most of the time a much bigger selection.
I think I'll broaden my search to include 16's. Thanks for the input guys.
Cheers,
GM
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Hi GM ..
I think with your brief that the 17" would be the go. Having had the 16" and the 15" there is an improvement in Handling and steering response with the 16" but still not what you would call sporty.. For the sake of peace at home :sweating: i would recommend you go the 17" (and you will probably have a slightly wider choice of styles too..) :goodjob2:
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Would these be any good?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5-wheels-tyres-Hyundai-Ford-Mazda-done-3-800-kms-/300582131673?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item45fc1757d9 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5-wheels-tyres-Hyundai-Ford-Mazda-done-3-800-kms-/300582131673?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item45fc1757d9)
Price isn't too bad for 5 BUT ---- they're 55 series. In other words they're off a 4WD. You need 45 series on an i30 with 17" diameter.
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Ahhh, so the wheels are ok, but the tyres are not? The wheels are off an I45 arn't they?
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I was thinking probably off an ix35 or a Santa Fe. The tyres are slightly too high in profile, so it would change the rolling diameter and screw up the speedo reading.
I've also seen that the offset for the i30 is 45, and those are 33.5. Does that mean they would rub the inside of the guard?
Dazz,
I agree with your view regarding the 17's, thus I was originally tossing up between them and wider 15's, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to look at all options. It can also be the case that 17" tyres are cheaper due to the sheer number of Holden/Fords with 17" wheels. I know when we had to get tyres for the WRX if we wanted to go slightly wider than standard (ie large car spec) the price dropped markedly.
I've sent a few emails out today looking for 17" wheel/tyre packages, and I'll give Jax a call and see what they can do - they often have specials on, so I'll keep my eyes & ears peeled for them.
Cheers,
GM
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Ok, try picturing these on a red hatch... :cool:
Pic 1 i30cw with 17" (http://www.tempetyres.com.au/gallery_closeup.asp?group=Hyundai&imageid=image4&index=Hyundai+1%2E2)
Pic 2 different angle (http://www.tempetyres.com.au/gallery_closeup.asp?group=Hyundai&imageid=image5&index=Hyundai+1%2E2)
Thoughts? :undecided:
GM
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I like it,
how much?
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I personally like busier ones like the ix35 ones earlier in the thread but I reckon they would look OK .. I will try and photoshop them on to a red hatch for you ...I'm only using my laptop at the moment but I'll see how I go :D
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I don't go for them.....sorry, GM!
I really don't like the whole low profile look so, you're probably better off ignoring my opinion.... :lol:
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Here you go.. look better on red (wish WE got the new front) :disapp:
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm103/dazzling_darryl/Wheeltest1.jpg)
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That looks great! Thanks Dazz. :goodjob:
Anyone know what sort of offset a falcon would have?? click here (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280715041607&clk_rvr_id=251605020424&item=280715041607#ht_500wt_1156)
I reckon they look pretty sweet. And for the current price, cheap too.
**EDIT**
Answered my own question. i30 offset is definitely 45, and falcon is 36 (the same as those earlier ebay wheels, which look like they've come off a Santa Fe)
Anyone reckon they'd fit?
GM
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Found an interesting site with info on offset. As width increases Grasshopper, offset must also change....
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=101 (http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=101)
From guessing, I'd say that with a wider wheel, the offset would reduce, thus making those falcon wheels about right, but I've gotta say $350 is a little too much to ride on a guess.
GM
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Here you can see offset even better
http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp (http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp)
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From guessing, I'd say that with a wider wheel, the offset would reduce, thus making those falcon wheels about right, but I've gotta say $350 is a little too much to ride on a guess.
GM
Now $415 + and only approx 50% tread left.. I wouldn't buy 2nd hand mags (could have come off a wrteoff or anything) :disapp: (nice enough looking wheels though..)
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So I got a price back from a mob in Sydney that freight nationwide.
I'm looking at $1099 for a set of 17's with Kumho ku31 tyres (they seem to have quite good reviews??) + $150 for freight.
The wheels in question are these (http://www.tempetyres.com.au/products_closeup.asp?part=&part_no=1271) or these (http://www.tempetyres.com.au/products_closeup.asp?part=&part_no=2571).
Black or Charcoal. Thoughts? I like the Charcoal. :cool:
Here (http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc225/sp_bling/S6000949.jpg) is a pic of them on a Mazda 3. Couldn't find any i30's, sorry. :disapp:
I'll see what someone local has to offer.
Cheers,
GM
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My car has 16 inches tyres and they feel good enough to me. But 17 will obviously be good looking !
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Been pondering..... :undecided:
What is the point of going for really low profile tyres?
Is it just for the looks?
Are huge wheels with nearly non existant tyres really an attractive look or is it just current fashion?
From what I see they just bugger up the ride for little benefit......
I'm hearing crys of better handling...but, if that is the case why don't F1 cars run them? :whistler:
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17" should be a good compromise though (I prefer the charcoal ones GM.. )
But I would try and get them locally fitted and balanced etc for a similar total price (if it were me.. )
I'll try and do some more photoshopping for you ) :winker:
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm103/dazzling_darryl/LensoCharcoali30.jpg)
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm103/dazzling_darryl/i30-5-w.jpg)
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Rustynutz,
Not particularly bothered looks wise - I guess the wife is though but eh. I guess I'm after less sidewall flex first and foremost. When cornering hard, and the car understeers, the tyres try to tuck under (they feel like they are trying to rip free of the rim almost). It feels cr@p, and scrubs the bejesus out of the outside shoulders. Having grippier, wider tyres would solve this to a degree, but reducing the profile as well would improve it more.
I don't think 17's would be too bad ride wise. Not as comfortable as the 15's, but the suspension is a lot more supple than the WRX we stepped out of, as surferdude mentioned, so it should be ok.
Thanks a lot for the photoshopping Dazz. You the man. :goodjob:
The wheels themselves look pretty cool - nice and open for cleaning - nice brake dust friendly colour.
I've been checking out a brand called G.Max. Anyone heard of them? Apparently run out of Perth, with warehouses there, Sydney and Brisbane. I'm also looking at some of their wheels. They are sold through Jax Quickfit, so I'll have to call them to get some prices.
Anywho, that's enough for me - better do some work.
GM
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Rustynutz,
Not particularly bothered looks wise - I guess the wife is though but eh. I guess I'm after less sidewall flex first and foremost. When cornering hard, and the car understeers, the tyres try to tuck under (they feel like they are trying to rip free of the rim almost). It feels cr@p, and scrubs the bejesus out of the outside shoulders. Having grippier, wider tyres would solve this to a degree, but reducing the profile as well would improve it more.
What sort of tyre pressures are you running, GM?
I run 38-40psi and find handling through corners quite reasonable, it certainly never feels like the tyres are gonna peel off the rims anyhow.... btw, I have 16" wheels on my i30..... :D
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Rustynutz,
I run about 36 psi. Never felt the need the need to go as high as 40, but I do run that in the tyres on my bike. I'd say the cheap as chips tyres are mostly to blame for the horrible understeer feeling. They do suck, quite a lot.
GM
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Rustynutz,
I run about 36 psi. Never felt the need the need to go as high as 40, but I do run that in the tyres on my bike. I'd say the cheap as chips tyres are mostly to blame for the horrible understeer feeling. They do suck, quite a lot.
GM
GM, 36psi is plenty.
I must say I'm surprised at your concerns regarding handling. I particular, understeer. I haven't experienced it at all in my i30 which was only on the standard 15" Nankangs. I found them noisy (bloody noisy) but no evidence of understeer nor a feeling of the tyres peeling off the rim. In fact, I'm on record elsewhere on this forum as saying I have found the i30 the equal in handling of the 2 Subarus I've had.
And that's with 20 odd years of rallying experience behind me.
Anyway, I don't doubt you are experiencing the problems you detail I just wonder what other factors might be at play.
Also I agree the 17's won't be too harsh and also agree they are likely to be the best priced option.
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In fact, I'm on record elsewhere on this forum as saying I have found the i30 the equal in handling of the 2 Subarus I've had.
And that's with 20 odd years of rallying experience behind me.
Anyway, I don't doubt you are experiencing the problems you detail I just wonder what other factors might be at play.
It could partly be the extra weight of the diesel engine in the CRDi .. Trish reckons the Petrol model feels a bit lighter and nicer for her to steer than my old CRDi did .... :winker: :confused:
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In fact, I'm on record elsewhere on this forum as saying I have found the i30 the equal in handling of the 2 Subarus I've had.
And that's with 20 odd years of rallying experience behind me.
Anyway, I don't doubt you are experiencing the problems you detail I just wonder what other factors might be at play.
It could partly be the extra weight of the diesel engine in the CRDi .. Trish reckons the Petrol model feels a bit lighter and nicer for her to steer than my old CRDi did .... :winker: :confused:
That makes sense Dazz. I keep forgetting about those diesel engines. :-[
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It could partly be the extra weight of the diesel engine in the CRDi ..
Which is why I find the recommended tyre pressures a bit odd, surely with the extra weight of the diesel, you'd want a bit more pressure in the front tyres at least, instead Hyundai stipulate 32psi all round regardless of model or engine. :undecided:
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Good point Dazz. Not that I'm putting blame squarely on the extra weight, but lead arrow syndrome + cr@p tyres won't be doing anything for understeer.
Well I've emailed my tyre guy at Brendale, and he's going to get me some prices for tyre and wheel packages (didn't even know he did wheels until today... :Shocked:) and I'll see what he comes up with.
Email is so damn handy to put out the feelers obligation free. :evil: Muah ha ha.
When I've finally decided on wheels, I'll only have to wait until we move (2 weeks :'() and then the wheels are in motion....get it.
Pun intended. :D
GM
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Hey GM, Photoshop option still available if you find any more you want to try... :winker:
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:DDazz! Thank You! I was hopeful, but didn't want to push the friendship.
If you would be so kind, good sir...
Advanti Talon in Gloss Black (http://www.wheeldemon.com.au/wheels?id=189&task=detail&wheel=talon-black)
Advanti Talon in Gunmetal (http://www.wheeldemon.com.au/wheels?id=190&task=detail&wheel=talon-gunmetal)
Advanti Maze-R (http://www.wheeldemon.com.au/wheels?id=4&task=detail&wheel=maze-r)
If you don't feel like doing all of them Dazz it's cool - I understand, and would definitely not think any less of you.
Cheers,
GM
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If it was me, I would probably go for the Talon Gunmetal or maybe Maze-R.
17" vs 16" vs 15" -> 15 is the most comfortable one, but the handling isn't that good, as you already know. 16" is a good compromise, because you get let's say 205/55/16, which do okay in curves, the feeling on the steering wheel is much better, they are comfortable enough and they don't effect the acceleration/fuel consumption as much as the 17". The 17" are great for cornering.. Really great. But with 225/45/17 tires and rims, you will probably face a bit higher fuel consumption and loss in acceleration and the comfort of course. Maybe you won't feel it that much. The looks is of course great with 17". But some 17" look smaller than 16". For example, wheels like this (http://www.customwheelsdirect.com/html/images/wheels/ACE_Alloy_Wheels/Ace_Alloy_Wheels_Passion_Gun_Metal.jpg) in 17" will look the same size like wheels like this (http://images01.olx.com/ui/2/48/27/20864127_1.jpg) in 16". (don't mind the two models, it's just an example).
Anyways, if handling is the main thing, go for 17".
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Accim,
I'd agree that there would be a marginal loss in comfort, and an even more marginal loss in fuel consumption, but I'm not sure about the loss of acceleration.
If the 17" alloy weighed more than the stock steel rim, I'd agree, but I would have thought it wouldn't be too hard to get a set of mags and tyres that weighed less than the stock items. Lowering the unsprung weight would help improve steering (probably responsiveness and change of direction) and acceleration, as well as braking.
I'm not saying mags are gonna completely change the cars performance, but theoretically, there should be a slight (if not very slight) improvement, not decline in these attributes.
I might even ponder that the sidewalls and overall stiffer construction of the lower profile tyre would go someway to counteracting the increase drag from having more rubber on the road. Big call maybe, but it's possible.
GM
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Some may find this article of interest..... :)
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10q1/effects_of_upsized_wheels_and_tires_tested-tech_dept (http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10q1/effects_of_upsized_wheels_and_tires_tested-tech_dept)
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Good article rustynutz.
There is a performance drop the bigger the wheels go, although it is fair to say 0.2 sec over a quarter mile isn't going to ruin the driving experience - especially in our cars.
You know I'm going to have to weigh a wheel now, don't you? I hope your happy, :undecided: On second thought, let's make that a job for tomorrow. Wifey is sick in bed, and the scales are in the wardrobe. I doubt she'd see the urgency in the issue at...Jeez 11:45.
While I don't deny bigger heavier wheels would dull performace, I've seen wheels in the last few days advertised as "light this", "hollow that". And from my knowledge of bikes, lower unsprung weight = instant, noticeable performance. Lighter discs, lighter wheels, lighter tyres = better acceleration, stopping and turning.
I am leaning towards a gunmetal grey wheel, and so the Talon fits the bill from my last quote request, so I'll endeavour to find out what it weighs, and what an average tyre to fit would weigh.
Then I shall whether I am bettering, or ruining my car.
GM
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Hi GM..
In the end if you find a 17" wheel like the Talon that you are BOTH happy with the improvement to the handling should offset any minor negatives... Don't want our comments on here to spoil your shopping/upgrading experience :confused:
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Lol Thanks Dazz. That last comment of mine was said with tongue firmly in cheek.
I'm sure any reduction in fuel efficiency will be offset by the better handling and cornering grip. In the example of the Golf with the various wheel sizes, 15-17 only dropped it by 0.2 L/100. That won't be so bad when we're already sitting in the 5/100 region.
And I like looking around - it's often interesting to see what you started looking at, and what you ended up buying.
GM
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And I like looking around - it's often interesting to see what you started looking at, and what you ended up buying.
Because I am semi-retired and have worked in numerous different industries I get to have a lot of fun shopping for others.. Cars, Whitegood, Browngoods and PC's and more .. so I know where you are coming from :mrgreen:
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Dazz,
Have you seen the movie, Borat? I'm terribly sorry to admit it, but your last post made me laugh quite loudly :rofl:. I think I gave myself away in the office. :scared:
If you haven't seen it, you won't get it, but Borat asks a guy what he does for work, and he says, "well I am retired" (imagine thick mid west American accent). Borat then starts telling everyone how good it is that Americans let retards (try saying retired in the above accent...) work.
Again, sorry, but it just struck me as hi-larious.
I have wondered how you get so many posts done everyday! Sometimes work gets in the way of a good bargain, so from that perspective you would be very much an ebay assassin.
Cheers,
GM
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Dazz,
Have you seen the movie, Borat? I'm terribly sorry to admit it, but your last post made me laugh quite loudly :rofl:. I think I gave myself away in the office. :scared:
If you haven't seen it, you won't get it, but Borat asks a guy what he does for work, and he says, "well I am retired" (imagine thick mid west American accent). Borat then starts telling everyone how good it is that Americans let retards (try saying retired in the above accent...) work.
Again, sorry, but it just struck me as hi-larious.
Borat Retired (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sg8G7gZV7E#)
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Hahaha good one with Borat :)
My post wasn't to scare you about the loss of performance and fuel cons., it was just so you could think about all factors. I know that in that Golf the difference in 0-60 mph acceleration (15" -> 17") was only 0.2 sec, but that Golf obviously has some powerful engine, because 7,6 s too 60 mph is fast. So I recon that in let's say 1.6 petrol engine, the difference would be greater (maybe 0.5 sec).
But if you do find some light wheels you probably won't feel any difference. I remember (quite some time ago and still do), people used to buy OZ Superleggera, as it was famous for it's lightness and strength. With something like that, you probably wouldn't feel the difference.
They look like this:
(http://www.mievo.net/members/fastfrank/10.JPG)
P.S.: I'm not saying to buy those, it was just an example :wink:
Hah, I found them also on i30. It wouldn't be my first pick, but I must admit, that it doesn't look that bad at all. More I look at it, better it seems. But I think these are 18".
(http://www.modifiedcars.com/pix/cars_large/21473_28257.jpg)
(http://www.modifiedcars.com/pix/cars_large/21473_28255.jpg)
(http://www.modifiedcars.com/pix/cars_large/21473_28253.jpg)
(http://www.modifiedcars.com/pix/cars_large/21473_28254.jpg)
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Dazz,
Have you seen the movie, Borat? I'm terribly sorry to admit it, but your last post made me laugh quite loudly :rofl:. I think I gave myself away in the office. :scared:
:rofl: Looks like I will have to think of some other words to describe my situation... :whistler:
Even the "semi" appears to have more than one meaning..
Asathorny says he still gets a a "semi" when he gets in his i30 :Shocked: :winker:
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Lol. Your doing very well for someone with your condition - hehe.
Accim, that white hatch looks great with those rims. I gotta say I'm even liking the white/gold combo. Lookin good :cool:.
I've seen a few red cars with gold rims on various forums, but they look a little too boy racer/pimp daddy. Can't quite decide which one though...
Those wheels in general look all business. If you didn't know any better you'd think that i30 was about to engage the warp drive and leave you standing at the lights! It's going against my general philosophy of "Speak softly and carry a big stick" - usually I'd much rather have the go and not the show. I suppose there's not much choice with the i30 though. :wacko:
Meh. I'm happy enough with how it goes. It surprises a few people. That'll do pig.
GM
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Some may find this article of interest..... :)
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10q1/effects_of_upsized_wheels_and_tires_tested-tech_dept (http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10q1/effects_of_upsized_wheels_and_tires_tested-tech_dept)
There are few things here imho that are not done well.
Car in consideration is powerfull hatch and we all saw that it has no siginificant problems runing 19". But how about 90hp or 115hp or 125hp hatch? IMO results must be slightly worse.
Second, this Golf has SIGNIFICANTLY better suspension then i30. Just like the GTi, and they both can easily absorb road imperfections with 17-18-19". I ask dude who got 17" for Kia Pro Ceed which is basicly the same platform, and he sad awful driving experience, but, for good looks im willing to suffer.
My third observation goes to tires. FFS all season??? Biggest crap ever invented! Even blind man can see BRUTAL difference in thread between summer tire and winter tire, how do you then combine both? 245 width with all season tire is joke! UHP summer tire would perform better and gave unmistakable grip.
In the end i believe that if you get REALLY light alloy as you planned most of "bad things" would be eliminated except level of comfort, but that varies from person to person and while i would think of it as very bad thing, you can have it as perfect. :goodjob:
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I've just got around to reading this article and should clarify a couple of things.
The term "all season" doesn't necessarily mean a poor performance under normal circumstances. Recent developments in thse tyres mean they are more than adequate performance tyres.
Read about them here........ http://www.motivemagazine.com/pub/news/Tested_New_Goodyear_Eagle_GT_High-Performance_All-Season_Tires.shtml (http://www.motivemagazine.com/pub/news/Tested_New_Goodyear_Eagle_GT_High-Performance_All-Season_Tires.shtml)
And the comment about weight effecting performance and fuel economy is true given the range of packages tested on the Golf.
But, if I read the satrt of this thread correctly, our member is considering a change from steel wheels and I would bet the replacement 16" or 17" alloys will be lighter, even when combined with a suitable tyre. In fact I think he's already alluded to this.
However the weight thing does bear consideration. Certainly some alloy wheels are heavier than others and I'd be looking at that as well as if the lightest were also the cheapest, why is that so.
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Have had 19" wheels on my wife's i30 for about 2 years now. It 's got 235x35x19 on. The thing feels like a go kart. The tyres are 'bandaids, so you feel a lot of bigger bumps. Bought them for $1200 with tyres that had done 6000km { second hand of course}, so it was worth doing, the 'boss' was looking for some bling. Had a few cars over the years & it seems 18' tyre is the cheapest option.
Cheers Bloodnut.
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Howdy all.
I'm just waiting on my local guy to get back to me with a price - his supplier is dragging the chain a bit I'm told. When I get it, I'll summarise the quotes I've gotten. All 3 are from different avenues - one interstate (I suppose internet based trading to a degree), 1 a local big chain, and finally my local friendly guy.
I'll try to get which brand/model tyre, and break it down per corner.
It might just be of help to others when looking for wheels. It could cement what we all think we know regarding the big chains, or perhaps open up the possibilities of looking elsewhere for a good deal.
Not sure if I'll have to wait until Monday for the final price, but it's quite painful. I've even got the post all drafted up, ready to paste in when it's done!
Cheers,
GM
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Will be interesting GM but from what Surferdude (our Tyre Guru) has said on here before you are better off with the 2nd and 3rd option...Local chain or Friendly local guy ... :winker:
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Finally got my 3 prices. Very surprised, although I probably shouldn't be.
Tempe Tyres in Sydney with $1099 + $150 freight ($1249) for these (http://www.tempetyres.com.au/products_closeup.asp?part=&part_no=1357), these (http://www.tempetyres.com.au/products_closeup.asp?part=&part_no=2569), or these (http://www.tempetyres.com.au/products_closeup.asp?part=&part_no=2581). They come with Kumho KU31 225/45/17's fitted to the rims & balanced. **Just a note, what does everyone think about the copper/bronze colour in the DC-6? I think it looks a bit more tasteful than porn star gold. It is drawing my eye.....but Gemcat16 disagrees so I imagine my eyes will be drawn elsewhere for me... :eek:
The 2nd is from JaxQuickfit (Capalaba in this case, but it wouldn't matter) with $1350 for these (http://www.wheeldemon.com.au/wheels?id=189&task=detail&wheel=talon-black) or these (http://www.wheeldemon.com.au/wheels?id=190&task=detail&wheel=talon-gunmetal). This package includes Austone SP7 225/45/17 tyres (never heard of them?)
The final price is from Mick's Bike & Car Tyres, Brendale. It is also for the Advanti Talons. Price is near enough to $1800 with Nexen N6000 tyres.
I'm a little bit disappointed my local friendly guy couldn't compete, but I think I knew it deep down inside. It would be incredibly difficult for him to get anything at the same price as Jax (or Bob Jane, Beaurepaires for that matter). I appreciate him trying though. I was pleasantly surprised with Tempe's price - even delivered it is the cheapest by a cool $100, but I guess it is up to personal preference whether people feel comfortable dealing with an interstate supplier. I have heard good things about them from a mate of mine who has used them in Sydney, so who knows - might be in luck.
As the price between Tempe and Jax is close enough to be the same, I think I'll probably go for Jax, simply because they are local, and I can go there and see them doing the work. However, if the freight was taken out of the equation.....(which it probably could be - I work for a national freight company :cool:), I might rethink my decision.
Hmmm, I think I've given myself too much to think about. Final decision on wheels will probably have to be down to The Minister for War and Finance.
Stay Tuned...
GM
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**UPDATE**
For those (if anyone) that does care, I have found a set of the Advanti Talons in the right size, stud pattern, offset and colour for $150 per wheel. Needless to say I'm gonna buy them. It is overi $100 cheaper per wheel.
There is a slight catch - I don't think it's an issue but here it is anyway. The wheels are from a company that went under in the floods in January. The dude selling them (and I went and saw them - proper tyre/wheel shop) got them cheap because they were covered in mud etc, and cleaned them up. They look pristine, and they are alloy, so they aren't going to rust. Plus they are painted. If they were full steel wheels I'd be wary, but I wouldn't have any issues putting these on a car.
Old mate also said he fit them with Nexen N6000 (have read reviews - seem good) and fit them to the car for $1140 all up.
I likes! :D
GM
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Buggered if I can find the modify button to update a previous post just at the moment, but I bought the wheels! Yay me right... :happydance:
Not getting the tyres just yet, but at least the most difficult decision is done.
You may go about your lives. That is all.
GM :cool:
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Sounds good GM .. not sure about the Nexens so good idea to just get the wheels to start with :winker:
So you got Charcoal then? (Bronze nice but not sure how they would match your colour...)
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Dazz, yeah got the Gunmetal (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380352089884&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_3440wt_905)
Those are the actual wheels as it happens. That ebay store is based 5 mins from work. Turned out well. And yeah, I've got the wheels, now I can shop around for a deal on tyres.
GM
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I like that style more than the original one.. the more spokes the better for Trish and I.. :goodjob2:
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Hey Dazz,
Found a post from prgervacio - his wheels look remarkably similar - on a red car too. Looks good.
https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=10115.msg116414;topicseen#new (https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=10115.msg116414;topicseen#new)
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Yeah they are.. The wife and I may have gone with those in Silver for her CW if they had been available in 15" ... :goodjob2:
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Howdy,
Picked up the wheels today. All boxed, properly packaged and with the Advanti wheel sock things (a bit like a hair net - for rims :))
The front visible part of the rims is perfect, but on a couple I did notice a few rub marks on the inside (ie the inside of the tyre, where the air goes) where old mate had to scrub the mud off. Really not an issue as far as I'm concerned. Only person that'll see that will be whoever changes tyres - and that sure as hell won't be me.
In addition, myself and a mate of mine carried the wheels out to his car 2 at a time, and could probably have easily carried a set of 4 rims each if they weren't so bulky - they are incredibly light. The dude even mentioned that these are particularly light wheels. Pretty stoked that the rims I ended up getting are lightweights to boot! :happydance:
I took a picture at work today, but there are much better pics of them on the ebay site, which are here (http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=411896&image=482729793&images=482729793,482729804&formats=0,0&format=0)
Overall happy as Larry about the bargain.
Can't wait to get some treads and get them on the car!
GM
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Just realised the post I made here last night never made it to print. In summary what I said was YHI is the distributor which went under water - over the road from the Oxley Golf Club. There would be no problem with the wheels being under water and they're on my short list if I ever can justify the outlay.
One thing, based on what you said about the scrub marks. Make sure the paint hasn't been removed. Although the wheels themselves are meant to be non-porous, the paint works as a sort of final backup sealer (highly technical term that :-[ ).
So, when you do fit tyres, keep an eye on the pressures for a few weeks. It almost definitely won't be a problem but worth at least checking.Have you any preferences for 17" tyres?
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Hey Surferdude.
I'll take some pics of the rims when I get them home tomorrow night to show you what I mean. If it came down to it I could tape them up and give them a dose of spray paint around the insides. I might get your opinion on it after tomorrow night though if I can. It looked like he'd given it a go with a scotchbrite scouring pad. It doesn't look like bare metal though - it's not shiny. Maybe gone through 1 layer of paint though.
We shall see...
Oh, got a full set of wheel nuts, and a matching drive thrown in too. Not a bad days bargaining. :D
**EDIT** just noticed your question - I'm a bit interested in the Nexen N6000. I've read some reviews that seem complimentary, and the dude (admittedly he wants to sell me a set), couldn't say enough about them. Even going so far as to recommend them over much dearer Bridgestones etc etc. I had Events on the WRX we had, and I was incredibly surprised - $95 a tyre and they stuck like you know what to a blanket. Got rid of the car before putting any decent mileage on them, but I would get them again.
GM
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Got the wheels home. Took some pics, and if I've read the How To correctly, they should appear somewhere below this....in theory.
I'll see how I go. Sorry for all the shots, but I've never really had really flash wheels before, and certainly never brand new. Apologies for some of the photos as well - they look so much better on the phone...
(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j450/Gemcat16/i30%20Pics/11082011770.jpg)
Boxes - Advanti Boxes :happydance:
(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j450/Gemcat16/i30%20Pics/11082011768.jpg)
*cue angels singing, harps playing, rose petals falling from the ceiling*
(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j450/Gemcat16/i30%20Pics/11082011766.jpg)
Advanti Talon Gunmetal 17x7.0
(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j450/Gemcat16/i30%20Pics/11082011767.jpg)
Badge
(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j450/Gemcat16/i30%20Pics/11082011763.jpg)
These are an example of the scratch marks I was talking about.
(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j450/Gemcat16/i30%20Pics/11082011764.jpg)
But as you can see, the marks are just left over dirt/mud - it came off with a wet finger and a bit of rubbing. The paint is perfect.
(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j450/Gemcat16/i30%20Pics/11082011762.jpg)
Sizing it up
SO yeah, I'm pretty excited. More so than the wife - although secretly I think she is a bit interested. Hope she doesn't figure out how to navigate to the tyre & wheel section of the forum.
I also have my sisters boyfriend on the lookout for tyres - he has a mate that works at a tyre joint somewhere - maybe a kmart auto or the like. Anywho, he's gonna enquire and see what he can do.
Anywho that's me. Enjoy - if that's your thing.
GM out.
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Excellent wheels I really like they :mrgreen: