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PICTURES & VIDEOS => MEMBERS MOTORING VIDEOS => Topic started by: meehalych on September 03, 2011, 20:05:52
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From 04:18 Nissan is taking two lanes, then shifts to the left, once I get closer it begins shifting gradually to me without any light signs, some seconds more and there might have been a collision.
AMBA0004 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfftdPxT-z8#ws) :twisted:
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Viewing the incident, -- close call but aren't you undertaking in lane 1?
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eye30
Hi.
Could you say it in another way please, cause I can't get the whole sense of the phrase (I know undertake is to commit oneself to and begin (an enterprise or responsibility)) Sorry.
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I think eye is saying what I wanted too.... That from our outsider view it appeared that you weren't altogether obeying the rules of the road.... Although, I s'pose like me he doesn't know the rules of the road where you live. So please don't take offence... :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob:
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So many trucks towards the end of the video :confused: But the road is better than a lot of the russian roads I have seen lately... That Nissan was a bit tardy (didn't know which lane he wanted to be in) :whistler:
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eye30
Hi.
Could you say it in another way please, cause I can't get the whole sense of the phrase (I know undertake is to commit oneself to and begin (an enterprise or responsibility)) Sorry.
Undertake in this sense means to overtake on the wrong side, which in the UK is illegal (allegedly, we see plenty of people getting away with it!!)
Following our rules when you are in the lane closest to the middle of the road (lane 4 in your vid) you are allowed to overtake anything. If however you go into lane 3, you can only overtake those in lanes 1 and 2, if you overtake anything in lane 4, you commit an offence and so on. What eye30 sees is you undertaking the Nissan as he squeezes you :question: :question:
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bumpkin
now I got the point, thank you :D
Well, that was not me speeding up to outrun Nissan (I didn't exceed the speed limit, which was 90km/h) , that was Nissan which slowed down (may be the driver was scared to see the bend of the road ahead, who knows?) and started shifting to my lane.
BTW here is a question:
If some one driving his car in lane 4 on 4-lane-highway with a speed less then it is allowed (as example 70km/h with allowed 110km/h) and refuses to take any other lanes, what would you do (it is a typical situation in Russia, actually)? Would you be driving with the same speed in your lane 3,2 or 1 or you would drive your car with a speed that is allowed on this road?
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BTW here is a question:
If some one driving his car in lane 4 on 4-lane-highway with a speed less then it is allowed (as example 70km/h with allowed 110km/h) and refuses to take any other lanes, what would you do (it is a typical situation in Russia, actually)? Would you be driving with the same speed in your lane 3,2 or 1 or you would drive your car with a speed that is allowed on this road?
In the situation you give here, in the UK you should not "undertake"/(overtake) vehicle in lane 4 if you are in lanes 1,2 or 3 unless instructed by the Police, highway signage or the traffic is stopped in lane 4.
You should move into lane 4 behind the slower driver and hope they see sense and move into lanes 3, 2 or 1.
When moving behind you should not "tailgate" the vehicle but keep a safe distance otherwise you can be ticketed for aggresive/careless driving.
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eye30
hope they see sense and move into lanes 3, 2 or 1.
What if this won't happen? I know the way how to create a traffic jam in England - one needs to take the left lane and keep on driving with the slowest speed :winker:
Meanwhile it is not true in Russia, if any car, driving in lane 1, outruns the other cars in lane 2 (for example) on two lane road, without changing the lane, it is called outstripping and it is not a subject of penalty, meanwhile there is another option: if one is driving the car in lane 2 and than takes lane 1 to outrun a car ahead and afterwards returns back to lane 2 - this is the breach of rule.
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meehalych
It matters not a dot what the rules, are as they differ all over the world. What really matters is that EVERYONE obeys the rules. As a general rule people whom are otherwise quite law abiding citisens in every other respect have a tendency to disregard the rules of the road, or pick and choose which ones the feel are important. IN other words become total prats the minute they hear the engine roar into life.
For myself I would be happy if there were automatic cameras on every street corner, then I would be happy to obey the law knowing that everyone else is having too as well, in the meantime, move over big boy cos I is comming thru :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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It's illegal to "undertake" over here to. Although, the max number of lanes, we have in Slovenia are 3, so it's hard to compare.
If one is driving too slow in lane no 1, you overtake him on lane 2, and if there is someone faster then you on lane 2, he overtakes on the lane 3. We also have so called "patients", that drive let's say 110 km/h, where the speed limit is 130 km/h in the lane number 3, but you have to drive behind him and wait till he moves to the right. A lot of times, they just don't want to move to lane no 2, even though there are cars behind him. I have also "undertaken" people driving in the lane 3, but 2 or 3 times, they also turned right into me. Had to go to the right quickly to avoid the collision. Usually they didn't even know I was there - they were talking on the phone or smth like that. But I did it after driving behind them for quite some time.
I guess it's different in Russia, especially when you have soooooo many trucks on the road :Shocked:
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Can there is no "Outstripping" term in your road's rules?
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What really matters is that EVERYONE obeys the rules.
I couldn't have put it better.
But we know that will not happen.......
I'm just as guilty as the next person and put my hand on my heart and say I obey the rules 100%.
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Used to see signs on the back of some trucks with the driver's side reading "Overtaking Side" and the passengers side reading "Undertaker's Side" and they didn't mean the opposite of overtaking.
They meant, "Pass on this side and YOU DIE!".
BTW,eye30
I know the way how to create a traffic jam in England - one needs to take the left lane and keep on driving with the slowest speed :winker:
Change "Left" above to "right" as in England they have right hand drive(as do we here in Oz) and drive on the opposite side of the road to the rest of Europe. So if you take the left hand lane, everyone can pass you legally. :happydance:
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surferdude
Yes, thank you, almost forgot about this :goodjob2: :D Once I get to UK I'll hire a car and will be driving in the right lane with a speed of 20km/h.
Here is a new video from my car, shot this afternoon in Saint-Petersburg, on 43 sec a black car is shifting to my lane and doesn't seem to notice me on the road (one can hear a voice of my mother)
AMBA0063 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3babyx8sI4s#ws)
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Unbelievable! Every video is "almost an accident". Your roads sure are problematical. And tell me something.. Aren't there any lanes on that 3-4 lane road?!? Huh...good luck man.
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Is it because there are no lane marking which cause drivers to "wander"?
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accim
An upper layer of asphalt was recently renewed on this road, so the traffic lane markings haven't been drawn so far.
eye30
I don't know if it was the reason, but majority of cars are coming straight ahead as there were the markings in place.
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Interesting video .. They really need those line markings pronto. I don't think they would leave a multi lane highway unmarked for any time at all over here ... :Shocked:
You have given me an idea .. :idea: (I might leave my camera running on the dash next time I go in the supermarket and see what happens while i'm away.. :happydance:
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Dazzler
This road is Pulkovskoe highway and the part shown is located within a city.
By the way, I was siting in the car, awaiting for my mother to come back from a shop, I would never leave camcorder unattended in a car in Russia, I'm not an idiot at all :mrgreen: because having done this and went somewhere for a certain time I would find a window of my car smashed and no evidence of camcorder inside :twisted: upon my return, most probably.
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Over here it would be safe to leave unless you were parked in a back (deserted street) at night...
I don't think anyone would break a window to steal it down here in a busy supermarket carpark during the day...
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Dazzler
A day light and a busy supermarket carpark won't stop drug addict from stealing anything left unattended in a car, which is worth money for a next dose :twisted:
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I think I will stay in Tasmania :winker:
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From 04:10 the car, having got under way started shifting to my lane, I wonder if he saw me or not or, perhaps, the driver expected me to slow down (I was coming home after spending 9 hours in a boat in Ladoga lake and Volhov river afterwards)
AMBA0303.MOV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUVxC2BWM-Y#ws)
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Close call.
Are you allowed to "undertake" on motorways?
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eye30
as I have told before there are two meanings in Russia: overtake - if the maneuver involves taking the lane of opposite traffic; outstrip - almost the same as overtake, but without taking the opposite lane
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What was the bang as you went past? :undecided:
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rustynutz
that was me, just was angry with such a maneuver and exhausted having spent 9 hours afloat :)
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I was checking some videos yesterday on YouTube. Videos were about some incidents on the roads, stupid drivers, silly drivers, funny drivers, drivers skidding in snow/ice,.. I must say that most of them were from Russia :scared:
I don't know, but you guys drive quite fast, aggressive and a lot of people don't even bother too look at signs, slow down, check the traffic behind, stop on orange/red traffic lights/Stop signs and stuff like that.
I'm not saying you are doing that, but I see many people in your videos doing exactly some of those things.
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accim
this all what you have described is possible and taking place because of the system, which is quite corrupted, for example a man, who possesses the power and money may avoid a justice after knocking down the pedestrians, he may also break the road rules driving anyhow he wants, moreover the rules are breached due to miserable penalties, for example: a speed exceeding from 11 up to 20km/h - 100 rub (3 USD roughly), from 21 to 40 - 300rub, from 40 to 60 - 1500 rub and over 60km/h one can be deprived of the driving license.
So I confess I exceed the speed up to 19km/h from the one allowed on the road, because the road policemen do not care about this and do not stop me, even the cameras of auto fixing are not adjusted on this speed.
Meanwhile every Russian, who happens to get abroad by car, is strictly following the rules, cause the penalties are too high and there is a chance of visa being canceled.
To be honest I haven't had any penalties so far, nor I have got into the accidents.
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Yes, I guess too much law sucks, but the lack of it or not carrying out the penalties (appropriate), can lead into trouble as well.
Here penalties are quite harsh (for our wages). I don't know exactly, but if you drive let's say 21 km/h over speed limit in urban area, you will get a 500 EUR ticket (681 USD) and 5 penalty points (if you collect 19 of them, you lose your license - young drivers lose the license even earlier. If you have your drivings license less then 2 or 3 years, you have 7 points "available"). And when you lose your license, you have to go make your drivings license after 2 years (I think it's like that). In case they catch you driving without the license, they take your car -> yes you stay without a car. And I must say that you can't really pay yourself out, even though we are also corrupted country - at least comparing to some other countries. Maybe some policemen will let you off just with a warning, but they really must have a good day. Oh and yes, if you for example overtake a car dangerously (so there's a car headed towards you and you have to "cut in" --> don't know how it is called, here we say "overtaking in scissors") you will get 500 EUR (681 USD) and 11 penalty points.
Anyways, when I see those clips from your roads, I'm quite happy with the situation over here. We have a lot of egoistic drivers, and drivers who measure the lengths of their **** and cure some psychological issues with cars/stupid driving, but it's not even close to your traffic.
We do have a lot of Russian and Ukrainian trucks here and they do sometimes drive aggressive, even though it's probably not even 50% as they do in Russia.
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accim
As far as I know "the system of holes" existed in the times of USSR, so with every rule's breach was noticed by the road police the driver had his/her driving license punctured, when the number of punctures reached a certain figure the driving license was taken from the driver. This is quite similar to what you have described.
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The system of holes sounds like a good idea. Get enough of them and you loose your license,,, because there's nothing left to find! Ha Ha!
BTW Do you video everywhere you go & Can you give me the part number from Hyundai for the item under your steering wheel, it must be optional because ours didn't come with one !!
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Unfortunately you need to adjust your driving to match those around you to some extent. For example, when I drive on the mainland of Australia in most places you have to drive more aggressively to get through the traffic.. It is generally so much easier down here :sweating:
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Unfortunately you need to adjust your driving to match those around you to some extent. For example, when I drive on the mainland of Australia in most places you have to drive more aggressively to get through the traffic.. It is generally so much easier down here :sweating:
I agree with that. Over here, if you drive 130 km/h (speed limit on highway) in the morning, when people are going to work and of course when there are no traffic jams, you will have much more trouble, then you would have if you drove let's say 160 km/h.. And if you drive let's say 100 km/h you will have problems because people are overtaking with 160, 180 km/h and it's not that easy to "cut in". If you are smart you will wait, because usually there are few cars driving at min. safety distance one after another at speed like that (this morning for example on the 15 km highway that I take, there were Audi A6, BMW X5 and a Honda Accord, overtaking everyone, going around or above 200 km/h - nothing special but they were so close I though they wanted to jump in each others rear boots :lol: ). Last day I was laughing when there was this guy with Audi A6 avant, for who speed 170 km/h just wasn't enough and he couldn't wait for few cars to move away in front, so he decided to pass them ("undertaking") all using the emergency lane. After 10 km I stopped at the gas station and he was also there filling up his car. Didn't seem to be in a hurry though :rolleyes: :twisted:
But as I've said it, the situation on the road over here isn't even close to the one in Russia, there's also less traffic and there aren't 10 lanes in one direction :D We only have 2-3 + emergency lane of course :)
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847563
I have been shooting the videos since I got my camcorder as it may be a proof of my innocence in case of intricate or road racket, which popularity has subsided lately, like this one подстава пешехода.avi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0iDv5rJYKQ#) for example.
Do you mean the accessory, that is depicted in one of the photos in my thread in "Stuff to laugh at" part? This is not mine, but I wish I had one in the car.
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The system of holes sounds like a good idea. Get enough of them and you loose your license,,, because there's nothing left to find! Ha Ha!
BTW Do you video everywhere you go & Can you give me the part number from Hyundai for the item under your steering wheel, it must be optional because ours didn't come with one !!
That reminds me of a practice by Qld police when I was young and we had paper licences (actually very thin cardboard).
If the police pulled you up for an offence and decided to let you off with a caution, the officer would surreptitiously stick a pin hole in your licence. Which meant that if you continued to be a bad boy and got pulle dup again the officer would know when he got hold of your licence that you had had a warning before. No more chances. Gotcha.
A policeman friend showed it to me. I had severl pin holes and he said they would continue adding pin holes each time they booked you . Licence lasted 10 years so they had a perfectly good method of assessing your driving record - way before computers or mobile phones etc.
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Yes I did mean the other picture, sorry. :-[
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That reminds me of a practice by Qld police when I was young and we had paper licences (actually very thin cardboard).
If the police pulled you up for an offence and decided to let you off with a caution, the officer would surreptitiously stick a pin hole in your licence. Which meant that if you continued to be a bad boy and got pulle dup again the officer would know when he got hold of your licence that you had had a warning before. No more chances. Gotcha.
That is where the idea came from that cops are a bunch of pricks... :whistler: :rofl:
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Another close approach at 25-th second, that happened yesterday evening when I was going home from the airport.
AMBA0329.MOV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuJt1Wjuvjw#)
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They think because they are indicating they have right of passage.
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eye30
They think because they own more expensive car, they have a right of passage
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eye30
They think because they own more expensive car, they have a right of passage
Yes and don't forget size.
The bigger the more space they need to squeeze thro'
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At 03:25 minute Mazda having turned to my road almost came to a collision with me (this is the area near Pulkovo airport again :D)
AMBA0350.MOV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl5WL6STHIA#)
And this video from 2:30 shows an importance to follow a speed limit strictly, fortunately there was no car coming right from that truck when it overturned.
AMBA0357 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m0yFL7xwLQ#)
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I think it's time you found another way home which is safer :scared:
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eye30
As I see there are two main ways to avoid any problems on the roads: 1 - to drive a tank; 2 - to fly a helicopter, though either of them seems to be too expensive for me nowadays.
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Haha amazing. Good thing to have in mind -> never go to Russia with your own car :D I know some people that work with Russia a lot and go there quite often.. But they are usually driven by others.. In SUV's or limousines.
It seemed "funny" or rather strange, when one of those guys was explaining me the procedure -> trip to the company he works with. He comes to Russia with a plane (commercial, not his) to an airport. There's a SUV waiting for him with tinted windows and after they pick him up, they just drive without stopping... WTF? :rolleyes: They don't do any illegal business or stuff like that, but his customers in Russia are quite wealthy. Is that how it's normally done or is there something "fishy" going on in your opinion? :D
Btw -> good thing you two didn't crash (the video above).
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accim
Give me the name of a company your friend works in, I wanna be a part of it too and be picked up by SUV and limousine every time I'm on a business trip :D
As I told before those in the luxury car think they have more rights on the roads, cause their cars are more expensive, but the situation seems to be changing gradually as I notice more of those cars follow the rules as well as the other drivers, let's see.
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accim
Give me the name your friend works in, I wonna be a part of it too and be picked up by SUV and limousine every time I'm on a business trip :D
As I told before those in the luxury car think they have more rights on the roads, cause their cars are more expensive, but the situation seems to be changing gradually as I notice more of those cars follow the rules as well as the other drivers, let's see.
Well he's not really a friend, just a guy I know - "acquaintance". Don't know exactly which company he works in, he and his father run the company, I just know it has something to do with the "energetics". I remembered now also, that they have an apartment in Russia too (spends there 2-4 months/year) and he speaks Russian quite fluid. Don't really like him, his a bit of an "as....ole" if you know what I mean :D
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Well he's not really a friend, just a guy I know - "acquaintance". Don't know exactly which company he works in, he and his father run the company, I just know it has something to do with the "energetics". I remembered now also, that they have an apartment in Russia too (spends there 2-4 months/year) and he speaks Russian quite fluid. Don't really like him, his a bit of an "as....ole" if you know what I mean :D
Well, I do :D
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fg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0_1rJhKbNQ#ws)
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Again..like watching YouTube videos from Russia..scary
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Again..like watching YouTube videos from Russia..scary
Thank you for watching!
To be continued.... :mrgreen:
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:twisted:
WTF!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2vZVVPC1rg#ws)
To be continued.....
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What gets my goat is when a driver cuts infront, especially at roundabouts like this one when there is loads of space, when they should just follow the natural path of the road/lanes. This is a good example and if an accident had happened they would blame everyone but themselves.....
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That was lousy driving :mad:
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There's a big (as in large diameter) roundabout on the exit from our suburb and it's 2 lanes. The number of drivers who negotiate it in the inner lane then cut across to the outside lane as they exit is immense.
You should be clear of the roundabout before you change lanes. It means people coming through on your left who are in the left lane and wanting to turn left, can do so. But if you swap lanes on them, accidents happen.
And they do here, regularly.
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Someone needs some training on how to tow a car trailer :scared: :scared:
Scariest accident ever car comes off trailer! caught on tape (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCfFbQpmqWk#ws)
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:Shocked: :Ouch: :disapp:
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I think I will stay in Tasmania :winker:
Hey Dazzler, move to the mainland and it all changes. Never leave any valuables in sight in a car in a carpark. Used to be you could leave the doors unlocked but not any more.
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I think I will stay in Tasmania :winker:
Hey Dazzler, move to the mainland and it all changes. Never leave any valuables in sight in a car in a carpark. Used to be you could leave the doors unlocked but not any more.
Remember the old Holden days. No key required, just turn the IGN to start and off you go. And that was also with unlocked doors or windows down in summer too. :neutral:
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http://youtu.be/kBJfD48YkJc (http://youtu.be/kBJfD48YkJc)
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Glad you missed him.
Damn Subaru drivers. :D
Love that camera.
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Glad you missed him.
Damn Subaru drivers. :D
Love that camera.
:iws:
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http://youtu.be/PtLXfYuuZM0 (http://youtu.be/PtLXfYuuZM0)
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^--- he was just dipping his toe in to feel the temperature ;)
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Either that or he had partaken in a quantity of P155. :whistler:
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AMBA0789 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAzA9I682PQ#ws)
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You should come drive on Sydney roads Mischa. You'd feel right at home. That happens at every merge.
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Sydney :disapp: good place not to drive IMO. :fum:
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At least they don't have trams :)
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You should come drive on Sydney roads Mischa. You'd feel right at home. That happens at every merge.
we are not alone, we are not alone :happydance:
At least they don't have trams :)
if you meant Saint-Petersburg, then you're wrong - there are trams in the city, but I prefer to stay away from them
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Perry sure he meant Sydney.
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:whsaid:
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Yes, Sydney. :)
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And the winner is...SYDNEY!!! :lol:
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Trams are stupid IMO :fum:
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And the winner is...SYDNEY!!! :lol:
:lol: Shouldn't that be SYDENEY!!!! ?
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Trams are stupid IMO :fum:
Yair. They've got a one track mind.
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And the winner is...SYDNEY!!! :lol:
:lol: Shouldn't that be SYDENEY!!!! ?
Right you are, Dave.... :lol:
I just didn't wanna confuse the aliens..... :whistler:
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It's a local joke. :goodjob:
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AMBA0881 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVLUZRW41TU#ws)
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I presume that it is OK to overtake on the wrong side in Russia. In the UK it is illegal to "undertake" other vehicles other than in some special circumstances. Several of the near misses in these videos are when the driver of the cam-car tries to undertake another vehicle. Possibly a good illustration of why the "No undertaking" rule makes sense.
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I presume that it is OK to overtake on the wrong side in Russia. In the UK it is illegal to "undertake" other vehicles other than in some special circumstances. Several of the near misses in these videos are when the driver of the cam-car tries to undertake another vehicle. Possibly a good illustration of why the "No undertaking" rule makes sense.
well, "undertaking" from right is not considered undertaking if a driver doesn't change lanes
if a driver changes lane in order to outrun a car ahead and he returns to his lane afterwards - this is considered overtake in Russia
I remember having explained it already
Several of the near misses in these videos are when the driver of the cam-car tries to undertake another vehicle.
me? :undecided:
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I presume that it is OK to overtake on the wrong side in Russia. In the UK it is illegal to "undertake" other vehicles other than in some special circumstances. Several of the near misses in these videos are when the driver of the cam-car tries to undertake another vehicle. Possibly a good illustration of why the "No undertaking" rule makes sense.
well, "undertaking" from right is not considered undertaking if a driver doesn't change lanes
if a driver changes lane in order to outrun a car ahead and he returns to his lane afterwards - this is considered overtake in Russia
I remember having explained it already
Several of the near misses in these videos are when the driver of the cam-car tries to undertake another vehicle.
me? :undecided:
Yeah, get your act together Misha :rofl: :D
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Hey, leave him alone, he's just "Rushun" to his destination before he has an accident.
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Hey, leave him alone, he's just "Rushun" to his destination before he has an accident.
That's why he takes the inside line................... :winker:
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Hey, leave him alone, he's just "Rushun" to his destination before he has an accident.
have never been to any accident, have never been charged for breaking road rules (have been to Finland for many times).
If your local rules don't specify what overtake is, it doesn't mean other countries are like yours.
Some may type it down into a Google translator
"o Опережение – движение со скоростью большей, чем скорость попутно движущегося Вам автомобиля;
o Обгон – опережение с выездом на встречную полосу."
This section specifies what overtake (let it be ОБГОН) is and what outrun is (let it be ОПЕРЕЖЕНИЕ)