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MODIFYING OR DETAILING YOUR I30 => ELECTRICAL | ELECTRONIC | AUDIO => Topic started by: pumpo64 on October 28, 2011, 14:38:54

Title: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: pumpo64 on October 28, 2011, 14:38:54
No doubt it's been covered before - I've changed a headlamp bulb on my i30 today and took the opportunity to photograph the process, with the photos uploaded to photobucket:

http://s1117.photobucket.com/albums/k583/howardsinclair/Hyundai%20i30%20headlamp%20bulb%20change/?albumview=slideshow&direction=reverse (http://s1117.photobucket.com/albums/k583/howardsinclair/Hyundai%20i30%20headlamp%20bulb%20change/?albumview=slideshow&direction=reverse)

For some reason, the slideshow has to run in reverse for the sequence to be as I intended it!
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: meehalych on October 28, 2011, 14:47:58
No doubt it's been covered before - I've changed a headlamp bulb on my i30 today and took the opportunity to photograph the process, with the photos uploaded to photobucket:

http://s1117.photobucket.com/albums/k583/howardsinclair/Hyundai%20i30%20headlamp%20bulb%20change/?albumview=slideshow&direction=reverse (http://s1117.photobucket.com/albums/k583/howardsinclair/Hyundai%20i30%20headlamp%20bulb%20change/?albumview=slideshow&direction=reverse)

For some reason, the slideshow has to run in reverse for the sequence to be as I intended it!
Thanks for the photo review, I know some Russian owners have changed both bulbs without even removing the body of headlight, so I'm gonna try it later on as I have been driving with original bulbs since I purchased the car in Jan 2010.
I just wonder if you had to adjust the light beam once the headlight had been installed.
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: pumpo64 on October 28, 2011, 17:06:06
It used to be that cars had enough space around their headlamps for bulbs to be changed by owners without any fuss - then manufacturers realised that by cramming everything in, a simple job could be made difficult enough for people to be put off from trying themselves - so more money for their dealers...  I had a Ford Focus, and its headlamp bulbs were a nightmare to change.

It is possible to change the i30's bulbs without removing the whole unit, but other items (e.g. the coolant bottle) may need to be moved; also, the job is still fiddly.  By removing the whole unit, it's much easier and can be accomplished in just a few minutes.
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: pumpo64 on October 28, 2011, 18:18:32
Just to add, regarding adjustment - I didn't check or adjust anything - but I'm going out this evening and so if there's anything wrong, it should be apparent.
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: constipated on October 28, 2011, 22:16:55
Does doing it this way affect alignment in any way?
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Surferdude on October 29, 2011, 07:03:49
Does doing it this way affect alignment in any way?

No. It shouldn't affect where your wheels are pointing............. "boom boom" :rofl:
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: constipated on October 29, 2011, 08:15:56
Forgot to add. Excellent guide. I always would prefer to replace bulbs without having to remove the headlight but your guide has given me the confidence to do it this way when the time comes.
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: rustynutz on October 29, 2011, 08:51:25
I just wonder if you had to adjust the light beam once the headlight had been installed.

And

Does doing it this way affect alignment in any way?

Nope, the headlight goes back in in exactly the same position as before it was removed, so no adjustment is needed..... :goodjob:

Oh, and It's very easy to remove the headlight, even I had no trouble doing it.... :winker:

Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: pumpo64 on October 29, 2011, 09:41:41
No alignment problems - I went out last night and the beam was exactly where it should be.

In fact, I didn't see how/where to adjust this anyway.  Does anyone know?
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Surferdude on October 29, 2011, 10:01:20
No alignment problems - I went out last night and the beam was exactly where it should be.

In fact, I didn't see how/where to adjust this anyway.  Does anyone know?

It's here.

https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,1641.0.html (https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,1641.0.html)
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: meehalych on November 17, 2011, 14:10:05
Yesterday, when I started the engine in order to get back home, my left bulb burnt, so I had to change it in the afternoon.
I should have started with the right one (I changed the second one too) with better access and view, but decided against and was stuck with bulb retainer. So having undertaken some futile attempts I decided to remove the headlight body, after removing three bolts I failed to remover it, but could shift it a little bit in its seat. I wish I had had a mirror, then everything would have passed smoothly, but I didn't have one. I was lucky to meet one of my friends pass by, so he helped me.
The right bulb was changed easily after removing the tank with coolant (two bolts were unscrewed and the tank was shifted sideways).  :happydance:

I set a pair of Osram Ultralife bulbs.
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Och_i30 on March 25, 2012, 23:46:11
I gave up trying to change the headlight bulb on my i30.  Something was going to break before I could have levered the headlamp out the front.  Luckily it was my nerve that broke first!  I asked the main dealer how it's done and he said they loosen and drop the front bumper to release the headlamp.  Anyone tried this method?
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Ugly Mongrel on March 25, 2012, 23:55:00
I gave up trying to change the headlight bulb on my i30.  Something was going to break before I could have levered the headlamp out the front.  Luckily it was my nerve that broke first!  I asked the main dealer how it's done and he said they loosen and drop the front bumper to release the headlamp.  Anyone tried this method?

Och_i30, I have changed my bulbs (hi & low beam) and didn't loosen or drop the front bumper. I simply removed the headlamp assembly bolts and slid the whole assembly out. It was a bit fiddly but it can be done.
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: rustynutz on March 26, 2012, 02:54:29
 :whsaid: :wss:
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Doggie 1 on March 26, 2012, 05:35:43
In 122,000 kms I haven't yet had to change any globe, other than one number plate globe.
(He says, looking for the "touch wood" smiley....)
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Shambles on March 26, 2012, 08:18:07
I gave up trying to change the headlight bulb on my i30.  Something was going to break before I could have levered the headlamp out the front.  Luckily it was my nerve that broke first!  I asked the main dealer how it's done and he said they loosen and drop the front bumper to release the headlamp.

Next time I'm down London way I'll show you how little your dealer knows about such bulby things :)
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: accim on March 26, 2012, 09:26:34
I've replaced them quite some times - I think I've taken them out (and back) 10 times last month (testing different xenon bulbs, etc).

Beside taking out those obvious 3 screws, that hold the headlight, I would advise to take the screw, that I've marked on the picture below. With doing that, the bumper is more "flexible" (5 cm) around the headlight area, which can be helpful, especially when you are just about to lose your nerves and kick the headlight back in with your foot  :lol:

(http://shrani.si/f/2y/Le/3HCQroMM/dsc0524.jpg)
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Dazzler on March 26, 2012, 09:31:29
I've replaced them quite some times - I think I've taken them out (and back) 10 times last month (testing different xenon bulbs, etc).

Beside taking out those obvious 3 screws, that hold the headlight, I would advise to take the screw, that I've marked on the picture below. With doing that, the bumper is more "flexible" (5 cm) around the headlight area, which can be helpful, especially when you are just about to lose your nerves and kick the headlight back in with your foot  :lol:

 :lol: :thanx: (I never had a problem either)
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: meehalych on March 26, 2012, 09:31:44
I would advise to take the screw, that I've marked on the picture below. With doing that, the bumper is more "flexible" (5 cm) around the headlight area, which can be helpful, especially when you are just about to lose your nerves and kick the headlight back in with your foot  :lol:

Yes, some Russian owners claim the same, but the easiest way to change bulb is without removing a headlight at all - may take up to 6 minutes in total for both of them.
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: mjt57 on March 26, 2012, 09:38:03
As an aside to this (saves starting another thread) who's installed HID headlight globes and what's involved? I've heard that you have to install controller or power supply boxes and other bits and pieces in addition to the globe itself?

I'm wondering if I can replace the standard high beam globe with a HID one.

I've started to do some night driving, now that our nights are getting longer here in the southern hemisphere (I've only had the car since late Nov and when we're in daylight saving time). The lights are good, but as they say, the brighter, the better...
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Phil №❶ on March 26, 2012, 09:43:21
mjt57,

I assume you're aware that unless the car is born with them, they're considered illegal.  :neutral:
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: accim on March 26, 2012, 10:10:14
I would advise to take the screw, that I've marked on the picture below. With doing that, the bumper is more "flexible" (5 cm) around the headlight area, which can be helpful, especially when you are just about to lose your nerves and kick the headlight back in with your foot  :lol:

Yes, some Russian owners claim the same, but the easiest way to change bulb is without removing a headlight at all - may take up to 6 minutes in total for both of them.

I don't see a way to replace the bulb in i30, without removing the headlight - in the diesel at least. In petrol, it might be possible.

As for installing the xenon hid kit:

1. It's illegal in most countries, so I would advise you not to do it. But if you do it (like I did), you must know, that you might have some problems with the police. Depends on the police in your area. So far, I haven't had any, but you never know..

2. If you do it, it's easy. Plug-and-play. You plug it like I've marked in the pictures below. On one picture you have so called "ballast" and on the other "the xenon bulb". Orange with orange, green with green. The two "wires" that I've marked with blue, go in the socket, which (if normal bulbs installed) goes directly on the bulbs. So that's basically it. Oh yes..and you must drill the hole in the cap, so all the cables can go through the cap. The black thing, that I've marked with pink square is a "sealant", which prevents water and other things to go into the bulb. You must be careful to drill the hole in the caps as wide as the "sealant" (the narrower middle part of the sealant). As for the bulb itself..nothing special. Goes in like normal bulbs.

3. In the end you "fixate" the ballasts somewhere - you can see it in the 2 pictures below, where I have them.

(http://shrani.si/f/37/qJ/1PPc1fWh/yy.jpg)

(http://shrani.si/f/31/d2/1aU6my1W/xx.jpg)

(http://shrani.si/f/3T/tS/2wF3qnUM/cc.jpg)

(http://shrani.si/f/s/bO/1zTj29wV/ccc.jpg)
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Dazzler on March 26, 2012, 10:12:27
Geez, you are good accim  :happydance:
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: meehalych on March 26, 2012, 12:36:00
I don't see a way to replace the bulb in i30, without removing the headlight - in the diesel at least. In petrol, it might be possible.
but I did that  :P: the left bulb is the easiest one, whereas the right one requires washing fluid's tank be shifted sideways by unscrewing two bolts, which attach it to car's structure.
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: accim on March 26, 2012, 15:33:39
I don't see a way to replace the bulb in i30, without removing the headlight - in the diesel at least. In petrol, it might be possible.
but I did that  :P: the left bulb is the easiest one, whereas the right one requires washing fluid's tank be shifted sideways by unscrewing two bolts, which attach it to car's structure.

Yes, as I've said. Maybe the petrol engine. I replaced the "passenger" bulb in my uncles Kia Ceed (1.4 petrol). But in diesel, you can't shift the washing fluid's tank, because it goes "through" the chassis. I'll take few pictures and you'll see there's no way you can replace them without removing the headlights. The same with "drivers" side. Even if you remove the battery, there's some plastic in the way.

But new i30 should have that thing sorted out (or at least easier), because of the regulative, which orders the manufacturers to make the replacement - not too complicated. There were some brands, where you had to remove almost 1/2 of the engine, to replace the bulb  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Och_i30 on March 26, 2012, 20:47:05
I've replaced them quite some times - I think I've taken them out (and back) 10 times last month (testing different xenon bulbs, etc).

Beside taking out those obvious 3 screws, that hold the headlight, I would advise to take the screw, that I've marked on the picture below. With doing that, the bumper is more "flexible" (5 cm) around the headlight area, which can be helpful, especially when you are just about to lose your nerves and kick the headlight back in with your foot  :lol:


Thanks for the tip and the photo Accim.  I'll try it next time a sidelight bulb goes.  Should be about 3-6 months. 
I could believe that at 'trained hand' could change the bulb on the washer side without removing the headlamp but I don't think there would be enough space on the battery side (at least on the 1.6 diesel anyway). 
And anyone who has suitably small and dexterous hands for this should be lambing sheep at this time of year!

Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: i30sean on June 06, 2012, 01:03:08
HELP I have tried but can't get the light assembly out on the passenger side  :(

My headlight bulb has blown and I have undone the 3 bolts plus the extra one shown in the pics above I managed to get the hook in the corner of assembly out and pulled but it wouldn't come out and not enough room to change the bulb, the pictures at the start of this tread are no longer on line anyone got a video or more pics please???

Thanks i30sean
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: rustynutz on June 06, 2012, 03:40:01
I ripped mine out the other day and it took me around 7 minutes all up and that included fiddling around testing it before I bolted it all back up.

I found the secret is to have your tongue out to the left while attempting to remove it....lol.

If that doesn't work, try taking a coffee break after you've sworn at it a few times and then come back to it....this usually works for me.... :winker:
 
Now, If you're still having trouble, I think you'll find there's a slight lip on the headlight that catches on the bodywork, (roughly in line with the grille) that stops the headlight assembly from coming out easily. Get that clear of the bodywork and you're then laughin'.... :D

Good luck!  :goodjob:
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: mjt57 on June 06, 2012, 03:47:30
I wonder - would there be a case for a warranty claim (ie. get the dealer to replace it) if the car isn't all that old? I've never considered such a thing before because it's never been an issue, but I've read threads about diesel i30s having globe failures (no-one could say why).
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: i30sean on June 06, 2012, 05:25:25
Well MJT57 I will be on the phone to Hyundai UK this morning the car is 2 years 4months old and covered 28,000mls I'm going to mention fact that a bulb should last longer than this but don't hold your breath  :faint:

My motorbike is 4years 8months old and covered 40K and never needed a bulb and it has running lights.

i30Sean
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: rustynutz on June 06, 2012, 07:29:53
Well MJT57 I will be on the phone to Hyundai UK this morning the car is 2 years 4months old and covered 28,000mls I'm going to mention fact that a bulb should last longer than this but don't hold your breath  :faint:

My motorbike is 4years 8months old and covered 40K and never needed a bulb and it has running lights.

i30Sean

Me thinks you're out of luck trying to claim your bulb on warranty, i30sean....  :undecided:
Seems bulbs are only covered for 12 months.. see:
http://www.hyundai-car.co.uk/owners/5YearWarranty/limitedCoverage/ (http://www.hyundai-car.co.uk/owners/5YearWarranty/limitedCoverage/)
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Shambles on June 06, 2012, 09:11:56
... the pictures at the start of this tread are no longer on line anyone got a video or more pics please???

We definitely have more pics... lemme look
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Shambles on June 06, 2012, 10:00:44
Have a wander through these pics:

https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=528 (https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=528)


And read some of the posts from #30 onwards too :)
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: i30sean on June 06, 2012, 19:08:48
Thanks for all the links etc and encouragement i'm thinking of having another go tomorrow and being a bit braver plus the garage is open down the road so if i get stuck help could be near by  :faint:

I spoke to the local dealers today and they charge are you ready ..................... £27 plus the bulb to fit one nice little earner  :(

Email sent to Hyundai UK in disgust but don't expect much from that I await their reply  :scared:

i30Sean
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: meehalych on June 06, 2012, 19:20:27
Thanks for all the links etc and encouragement i'm thinking of having another go tomorrow and being a bit braver plus the garage is open down the road so if i get stuck help could be near by  :faint:
it is no need to remove light assy in order to change one bulb, just unscrew two bolts which hold washing fluid tank and you will get ample space
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Shambles on June 06, 2012, 19:49:29
I can remove the nearside headlamp assembly in 3 minutes flat :P
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: rustynutz on June 07, 2012, 01:02:12
 :whsaid:
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: i30sean on June 07, 2012, 12:36:06
Some wizzard skills their them a it's the passenger side  :lol: :lol: :lol:

i30Sean

 
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: i30sean on June 14, 2012, 14:40:42
Guys I'm offically speachless  :faint:

So had tried without luck to get headlight out to change the bulb on the passenger side, had tried local Halfords but they said main dealer job, main dealer wanted £27 to change plus cost of bulb so....

Was in town local town where they have a Hyundai main dealer and just along the road was another Halfords with a fitting bay outside and a lad was putting in a bulb on another car as I pulled in to get some screen wash. I causualy asked him can you change bulbs on these ??? Oh they is easy he said !!!

He put his hand behind the light within 10 seconds the cover was of and another 15 seconds the bulb was out it was unreal he took me in and I bought a bulb by the time I went out from paying it was in cap back on and light fully working  :D

I asked him about undoing the 3 bolts on top of the light and taking head light out and he laughed he said he changes bulbs all day and can do them with his eyes closed so for £6.99 plus the bulb £9.99 done  :happydance:
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: rustynutz on June 14, 2012, 14:44:40
He must've had little "girly" hands...... :whistler:
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Shambles on June 14, 2012, 14:45:53
He put his hand behind the light within 10 seconds the cover was of and another 15 seconds the bulb was out ...

:eek: he must have very thin flexible hands & arms :eek:

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EDIT: ninja'd by Risty :lol:


Risty :lol:
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: rustynutz on June 14, 2012, 14:48:19
Would that be limp Risty?  :lol:
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Phil №❶ on June 15, 2012, 00:01:00
He put his hand behind the light within 10 seconds the cover was of and another 15 seconds the bulb was out ...

:eek: he must have very thin flexible hands & arms :eek:

(click to show/hide)

See, even people like that have their uses  :exclaim:


Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: john bos on August 06, 2012, 03:20:21
I had the same problem most have had trying to change headlight bulb on an I30. Fingers just cant easily unscrew the plastic cover and no way can I remove the bulb. My solution was as follows: Undo the three 10mm headlight retaining screws as has been mentioned previously (two on top and one at rear of the headlight assembly). Remove the clip on connector on the headlight. Now undo the two painted 10mm bolts which hold the upper side of the front guard (fender) to the inner guard. These are painted the same color as the car and located in the channel which is covered by the bonnet when it is closed. Get someone to raise the now loose upper side of the guard maybe 100mm as you remove the entire headlight unit. The top section of the guard is quite flexible. No scratches, no fuss. Replace bulb and replace the headlight assembly.
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Shambles on August 06, 2012, 07:59:55
^--- that's the hard way.

Just get a couple of weetabix inside yer and yank the headlamp assembly - no need to remove anything other than the three 10mm bolts :P
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: rustynutz on August 06, 2012, 08:50:43
 :whsaid:
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: eye30 on August 06, 2012, 09:30:48
With the new model no need to remove light fitting.

Plenty of room on one side but not so much on the other but still enough room to get a fair size hand in.
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: ozsnowman on August 07, 2012, 13:42:35
Replacing the headlight globes on my diesel is a cast iron b#tch, hate doing it!
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: i30sean on August 07, 2012, 14:54:00
£6 for Halfords to do it  :D

No stress No hassle i30Sean
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Dazzler on August 07, 2012, 23:02:51
£6 for Halfords to do it  :D

No stress No hassle i30Sean

But the shipping cost from Victoria, Australia might be a bit prohibitive ... :whistler:
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Doggie 1 on August 08, 2012, 07:34:27
£6 for Halfords to do it  :D

No stress No hassle i30Sean

But the shipping cost from Victoria, Australia might be a bit prohibitive ... :whistler:

Would be a nice drive though.
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: baroudeur on August 09, 2012, 16:33:25


He put his hand behind the light within 10 seconds the cover was of and another 15 seconds the bulb was out it was unreal he took me in and I bought a bulb by the time I went out from paying it was in cap back on and light fully working  :D
........so for £6.99 plus the bulb £9.99 done  :happydance:

That works out at £420 hour and I thought my dealer's £72 hour was expensive.   And £9.99 for the bulb??????????????
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: mjt57 on August 14, 2012, 12:08:23


That works out at £420 hour and I thought my dealer's £72 hour was expensive.   
Is that their standard hourly rate???

In Aussie dollars that's well over $120/hr. My local Hyundai dealer's rate is somewhere between $60-100/hr. And they're not averse to gouging their customers, either.
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: baroudeur on August 14, 2012, 17:05:03


That works out at £420 hour and I thought my dealer's £72 hour was expensive.   
Is that their standard hourly rate???

In Aussie dollars that's well over $120/hr. My local Hyundai dealer's rate is somewhere between $60-100/hr. And they're not averse to gouging their customers, either.
Yes hourly rate.

I have just got quotes to replace the timing belt in my wife's Getz from three Hyundai dealers
All quoted same price for the parts  and 2.2 hours labour but rate varies.

Dealer A was £72/hr or $107

Dealer B was £84/hr or $ 125

Dealer Cwas £113/hr or $168  But I think he made a mistake (or I did)
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: beerman on September 07, 2012, 09:06:47
The 4th globe (left side) was replaced on Wednesday, so of course the right side went Thursday night.

I decided to do it myself, using a different brand to the mechanic (I used the repco +30% globe which was more expensive than the part and labour to get the mechanic to do it). It wasn't a fun job. When someone knows what they are doing they know how much force they can use without doing damage. When someone approaches the job for the first time, they don't and are by necessity more careful.

I got it done, couldn't see what others had said about pulling the headlight out without loosening the guard. Once I loosened the guard and swore a bit, it came out without damage. My main worry (getting it all back in) proved to be less of an issue, and it all went back in nicely.

It would be nice if I wasn't to become better at this (but given that was my 5th globe in 64k I suspect that I will).

Hopefully the change in brand might extend their life. Otherwise I can report to the dealer that no particular brand of globe makes a difference.

In any event I got 2, having a spare in the garage should ensure that it never is a problem again. :D
 
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Dazzler on September 07, 2012, 23:59:29
Just a reminder Beerman .. Try to make sure the lights are off when you start the car (maybe even let it idle for a few seconds before turning them on) It is no guarantee but I think it reduces the risk of a blow..  :Pout:
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Karizmatik on September 30, 2012, 14:07:23
I replaced my bulbs today -- Used CrystalVisions -- I love them. Wasn't too hard to replace, 10 minutes tops. Removed the battery and the coolant reservoir (The overflow tank) and the rest was easy. Not really that complicated but could certainly be easier.
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: i30sean on December 14, 2012, 16:40:49
So another bulb blown on the drivers side this time so back to Halfords and again the guy did it blind popped his hand in got the cap off which he said is the most difficult bit as it's tight in there and had the buld changed before I had come out after paying. So both headlight bulbs can be changed without the need to remove the lights  :goodjob2:

Passenger bulb lasted 2 1/2 years, Drivers side 2 years 11months, still feel this isn't long enough but I wonder if it's due to the Auto light function, I leave it on all the time ?

i30Sean
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Dazzler on December 15, 2012, 11:09:37

Passenger bulb lasted 2 1/2 years, Drivers side 2 years 11months, still feel this isn't long enough but I wonder if it's due to the Auto light function, I leave it on all the time ?

i30Sean

So somtimes they would light up when you are starting the car?.. I'm convinced that would make extra stress on them  :undecided:
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Keith on December 15, 2012, 12:47:20
My headlights are always on, on the "Auto" option, so depending on how dark it is the headlights are on or off whenever I start up.
Its been this way for the 2 yrs+ I've owned the car.
In that time, and over 30,000 miles I never had any bulb (globe) blow.

However, last night when leaving work I noticed the UK passenger side dipped beam lamp had died.

Today, & £5.50 later... I have replaced the lamp, fitted a Lucas version, took me 10 mins via the Headlight unit removal route, taking it easy and supping a cuppa!

Piece of cake.

I'll report back when I have to do the UK drivers side where the washer bottle lives!
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Dazzler on December 15, 2012, 21:11:41
My headlights are always on, on the "Auto" option, so depending on how dark it is the headlights are on or off whenever I start up.
Its been this way for the 2 yrs+ I've owned the car.
In that time, and over 30,000 miles I never had any bulb (globe) blow.

It is only the Diesel that I wouldn't recommend starting with the lights on (or on Auto)

Won't stop them blowing but may reduce the incidence... :undecided:
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: mjt57 on December 16, 2012, 05:39:01


Today, & £5.50 later... I have replaced the lamp, fitted a Lucas version,

You're brave. Motorcyclists of yore used to refer to Lucas Electrics as "the Prince of Darkness"...

 :D
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Doggie 1 on December 16, 2012, 05:43:24


Today, & £5.50 later... I have replaced the lamp, fitted a Lucas version,

You're brave. Motorcyclists of yore used to refer to Lucas Electrics as "the Prince of Darkness"...

 :D

 :rofl: And British Leyland owners.
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Dazzler on December 16, 2012, 06:16:20
My eldest Brother was a rep for Lucas in his younger days (might have been a tough job from what I've heard and read)  :sweating:
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Keith on December 16, 2012, 12:12:09
Daz, I'd like to know what difference there is between diesel & petrol charging systems that might impact bulb life?
I'm not saying the theory is wrong, and I accept that starting a diesel involves a heavier current drain, probably meaning the alternator provides more charge current. So if that causes bulbs that are on to blow then isnt that indicative of a poor voltage regulation?

Mjt57, I am a motorcyclist from ye olde days from 1972...
I've personally never had any problems with Lucas bulbs... other Lucas items like dynamo's, alternators etc yes... but never bulbs.
In fact every car or bike I had, I bought replacement bulbs from the same manufacturer.

Plus I've heard some awful stories about the short life of expensive "blue" lamps, (Osram, Philips etc) that £5.50 sounds good value, esp as this one was so easy to change, I didn't think my choice of bulb was the issue, more how we get to change them?

Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: rustynutz on December 16, 2012, 13:59:26
Lucas, the Prince of Darkness

Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Keith on December 16, 2012, 14:24:10
Lucas, the Prince of Darkness

  • Not many people know that Land Rovers attempted to market a computer. Why did they stop? They could not find a way to get it to leak oil!
  • A Land Rover doesn´t leak oil, it marks it´s territory. Did you hear about the man whose Land Rover didn't leak oil? The factory took it backand worked on it until it did.
  • Did you hear the one about the guy that peeked into a Land Rover and asked the owner "How can you tell one switch from another at night? They all look the same. " - "He replied, "It does not matter which one you use, nothing happens !"
  • The Lucas motto: "Get home before dark."
  • Lucas is the patent holder for the short circuit.
Blah blah blah,... yea all very funny in some places no doubt, *the same jokes used to be said about Hyundai, Kia & Skoda, ... but the fact is that they are / were all VFM as are Lucas bulbs, unless there is some other reason to hate Lucas.. its just some find it hard to see the wood through the trees  :whistler:[/list]
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: potnodleman on December 16, 2012, 20:50:47
My headlights are always on, on the "Auto" option, so depending on how dark it is the headlights are on or off whenever I start up.
Its been this way for the 2 yrs+ I've owned the car.
In that time, and over 30,000 miles I never had any bulb (globe) blow.

It is only the Diesel that I wouldn't recommend starting with the lights on (or on Auto)

Won't stop them blowing but may reduce the incidence... :undecided:

but saying that...wouldnt cars with the engine auto 'stop start' function like my diesel blow its bulbs quicker then?..cus I do notice the lights dim slightly when you engage from stop start at the lights

on a separate note...I still think the auto stop start function is a waste of time and probably doing the engine/alternator and battery more harm then good :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: AlanHo on December 16, 2012, 20:58:02
on a separate note...I still think the auto stop start function is a waste of time and probably doing the engine/alternator and battery more harm then good :rolleyes:

Why don't you switch it off then?............... :whistler:
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: potnodleman on December 16, 2012, 21:23:11
on a separate note...I still think the auto stop start function is a waste of time and probably doing the engine/alternator and battery more harm then good :rolleyes:

Why don't you switch it off then?............... :whistler:

yeh thats what I do sometimes or I just keep the clutch pedal down..lol cus it automatically comes back on each time u start the engine from start
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: 2i30s on December 16, 2012, 21:30:35
on a separate note...I still think the auto stop start function is a waste of time and probably doing the engine/alternator and battery more harm then good :rolleyes:

Why don't you switch it off then?............... :whistler:

yeh thats what I do sometimes or I just keep the clutch pedal down..lol cus it automatically comes back on each time u start the engine from start
your clutch wont last long doing that.  :Shocked:
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: AlanHo on December 16, 2012, 21:38:11
I have never done it - but I believe you can press the ISG button on the dash after you start the engine and it will switch the ISG off until you next start the engine.
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: potnodleman on December 16, 2012, 22:32:26
on a separate note...I still think the auto stop start function is a waste of time and probably doing the engine/alternator and battery more harm then good :rolleyes:

Why don't you switch it off then?............... :whistler:

yeh thats what I do sometimes or I just keep the clutch pedal down..lol cus it automatically comes back on each time u start the engine from start
your clutch wont last long doing that.  :Shocked:


Ive always drove like that in my previous car mazda for 8yrs without any problems until some woman ran into the back of me and written off the car  :rolleyes:


I have never done it - but I believe you can press the ISG button on the dash after you start the engine and it will switch the ISG off until you next start the engine.

Oh right...will have to check that out 1 day
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: AlanHo on December 18, 2012, 01:36:12
I have never done it - but I believe you can press the ISG button on the dash after you start the engine and it will switch the ISG off until you next start the engine.

I have now done it. Yesterday I pushed the ISG button after starting the car - a light comes on in the button to confirm the ISG is switched off. A message appears in the instruments for about 10 seconds telling you that the Auto Start is deactivated. For the rest of the journey the Auto stop is off and you don't get any messages about it in the trip recorder.

However - you need to switch the ISG off each time you start the engine - which is no bother.
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: neoto on December 18, 2012, 08:22:47
Here we go again... Last week the driver's side headlamp blew again. Now I ordered Osram Ultra Long Life bulbs (3x longer lifespan advertised) with 3 years warranty and replaced both bulbs in about half an hour.
The last bulb blew when I accelerated after starting the car - I started normally, cleaned the ice from the windshield (a few minutes), then drove away. When I pressed the gas pedal slightly more, I could see that the lights became brighter and then one blew. Unfortunately, I didn't have OBD-II logging turned on to see the voltage.
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Dazzler on December 18, 2012, 11:00:36
Will be interesting to see how long the ultra long life bulbs last  :goodjob:
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Asterix on December 18, 2012, 21:13:03
Here we go again... Last week the driver's side headlamp blew again. Now I ordered Osram Ultra Long Life bulbs (3x longer lifespan advertised) with 3 years warranty and replaced both bulbs in about half an hour.
The last bulb blew when I accelerated after starting the car - I started normally, cleaned the ice from the windshield (a few minutes), then drove away. When I pressed the gas pedal slightly more, I could see that the lights became brighter and then one blew. Unfortunately, I didn't have OBD-II logging turned on to see the voltage.

I also fitted these Osram's last time.

They do not give much light which was no problem in the summer, but here in the dark winter I bought some cheap (can't remember the name) bulbs with extra light. I expect they last the winter, then I will fit the Osram's again.
Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: baroudeur on December 29, 2012, 16:27:09
Filament  lamps are very sensitive to changes in the supply voltage.

A 5% reduction in operating voltage will more than double the life of the bulb, at the expense of reducing its light output by about 20%.

Longer life of bulbs is achieved by using a  filament designed to  run 'under voltage'.

Conversely brighter light is achieved by a filament running over voltage........... with a shorter life.  :exclaim:

Simple electrical maths  :wink:


Title: Re: Changing headlamp bulb
Post by: Dazzler on December 29, 2012, 20:57:59
Thanks baradeur.. Nice simple but effective explanation :goodjob:
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