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GENERAL STUFF => i30 NEWS & OFFICIAL REVIEWS => Topic started by: AlanHo on March 10, 2012, 21:36:32
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Rather than add to the Silverstone experience thread - I decided to start a new thread to cover the road tests I have conducted with the VW Golf and Hyundai i30 cars.
I have already reported on my experience of testing the Golf 1.4T petrol and 1.6 TDi cars - here is my report on todays tests of the i30 1.4 petrol and 1.6 CRDi models.
Today I managed to drive both the new 2012 i30 petrol and diesel cars on familiar local roads and highways and I am able to make a direct comparison with the equivalent VW golf petrol and diesel cars, over the same route, regarding cabin noise. I have the opportunity to drive them again tomorrow or the following weekdays if necessary
Unfortunately –the i30 Style model (which has 16” rims) was not available for a test drive – so I drove the Active models which have 15” rims and low rolling resistance tyres. In a way this is perhaps more appropriate because the VW Golf had 15” rims too.
The cabin noise test results are shown in the following tabulation :-
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The above dB readings are assessed averages of the decibel noise meter readings.
Note that an increase of 3 dB is equivalent to the sound level being doubled.
Because I was driving the cars, I relied upon the dealer’s sales guy who accompanied me to take the noise readings on my behalf – but I have no reason to doubt that they did a good honest job. They were as interested as I to see the results. Bear in mind that the decibel meter needle moves quite rapidly in response to the varying peaks and troughs of the noise spikes. Hence it is necessary to interpolate the average reading at any moment in time as being the perceived mean position of the swing of the needle. I mention this to explain that any anomalies you spot in the table could well be the result of inaccurate interpolation.
What the table shows is that the Golf and new i30 have much lower cabin noise than my i30. It also indicates that there is little to choose between the Golf and i30 – the Golf may have the edge – but only by a tiny amount. I expected to see a much bigger difference between the petrol and diesel cars based upon my own perception that the petrol cars were quieter – but the decibel meter proves otherwise. I imagine that this may indicate that my ears are more sensitive to certain wavelengths than the meter.
Whilst of interest, the sound level tests were in a way unhelpful, because I was expecting a clear winner to emerge on which I could hang my hat. Hence I need to consider other factors in deciding which car to buy.
Despite the car magazines various comments about the Golf and i30 – I consider that the i30 is every bit as good a car in terms of refinement and driving experience. It is as well finished inside and out and to me has better styling, more cabin space, a bigger boot, lighter clutch and more bells and whistles. I fail to understand why so many reviewers have mentioned that the i30’s steering is woolly at the straight ahead position – I found it as good if not better than the Golf. The diesel Golf required more steering effort throughout the range – whereas the i30’s steering increased in weight the tighter and faster you turned. In addition - in the i30 – you can select between three levels of power assistance. My wife would take some time getting used to the Golf because of the higher steering effort required.
The Golf is undoubtedly a fine car, but whether it really is that much better than the i30 is debatable. All the car magazines have put the Golf on the top podium for years and I have little doubt that for whatever reason, that trend will continue. In any event, I don’t need to fret over detailed comparisons because I have ruled it out on cost grounds. It is £1300 to £3100 more expensive than the Hyundai equivalents and the VW dealer’s part exchange offer was £2100 lower. Hence there are between 3000 and 5000 reasons why the Golf is out of contention.
So I am left to choose between the i30 1.4 petrol and two i30 1.6 diesel models.
The 110 PS diesel I borrowed today felt decidedly sluggish compared with my present car. It had only done about 100 miles so the engine was still tight – but I suspect that the engine has been mapped for extreme economy at the expense of grunt. The car averaged 49.7 mpg in my hands but there was not a lot of highway driving involved. I suspect 55 mpg is a realistic target. The 128 PS car I drove at Silverstone was much more lively. Both engines are very refined for diesels and cannot be ruled out on those grounds. The 128 PS engine costs only £300 extra and despite having more power and torque equals the 110 PS engine in emissions. Hence, if I choose diesel – it will be the 128 PS engine I go for.
I was very surprised at how lively the 1.4 petrol version felt. It seemed to accelerate off the line quicker than the diesel and only lost out on accelerating at higher speeds. I was left wondering how it would feel 4 up and full of luggage. I am used to zooming past slow traffic quite quickly and feel that this might be the Achilles heel of the petrol car. It averaged 37.6 mpg during the brief time I drove it and I suspect that once the engine loosens up and more time is spent on highways, 40 mpg is a possible target.
My wife’s take on this is that we are retired and have no need to hurtle round the country to save every precious second and risk life and limb in fast overtaking manoeuvres. She reminds me that we go on a long trip about twice a month, the rest of the time is spent on short(ish) urban driving. The petrol car costs £3,330 less than the diesel and seems smoother to drive in her opinion. She is also aware of my concerns about the high cost of repairing a DPF, a dual mass flywheel or a stuffed turbo out of warranty. She is biased though – she hates using diesel bowsers.
As I have said previously all the new i30 cars had a silky smooth gear change, nice clutch action, good all round visibility, good storage space and just felt classy. I looked for niggling things to criticise but found only one – the limitations of the trip recorder I mentioned in earlier posts.
So now for the big decision
Pause for effect ……….
I have at last made my decision. I am certainly going to order a new silver 2012 i30 Style hatch within the next few days
I just wish I could find an overwhelming reason why I should go petrol rather than diesel.
My heart says Diesel – my head says Petrol.
I will sleep on it – because it is a decision I have to get right.
Watch this space.
EDIT
Perhaps I should add that the diesel car will cost me £2506 more than the petrol in initial outlay.
Using the following assumptions :-
The ratio between the costs of diesel and petrol remains the same
The petrol car averages 40 mpg
The diesel car averages 55 mpg
Insurance for the petrol car averages £400 pa and £480 pa for the diesel
Servicing for the petrol car costs an average of £140 pa and £160 pa for the diesel
Road tax in the first 5 years costs £650 for the petrol and zero for the diesel
Road tax for the next 5 years costs £800 for the petrol and £1050 for the diesel
At the end of 5 years the total cost of ownership for the petrol car will be £900 less than the diesel
At the end of 10 years the total cost of ownership for the petrol car will be £300 more than the diesel
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Yet another excellent summary Alan.. Go the Diesel :mrgreen:
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Very precise assessment of the situation Alan. When I made my choice two years ago now, time flies, I did my research which in no way compared with yours, I must say. Ulimatly I did what made me feel good. It worked out just fine. I have the petrol Alan, I have in the past driven lots of diesel vehicles and have never been for or against, I have never compared them at all really.
The money saving aspect is going to be less and less for after the government encouraged everyone to buy deisel engine cars and lowered the cost of diesel as a bride, the cost of the fuel is now on the up agian and the divide is wideneing. whilt the incease if worked in % the gap will steadily increase and the gain which was traded during the Thatcher era is rapidly disaapearing.
Which ever you choose I am sure you'll be happy.
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Thanks for the post of your observations, Alan. I must say that you are a very thorough man. :goodjob:
When I bought my i30 one year ago, I based it on the following:
1. My next door neighbour have had a 2008 i30 crdi for 3 years without any issues.
2. A friend of mine have had a 2. hand 2007 i30 crdi for 2 years without any issues.
3. I have never seen a car magazine write anything negative about the mechanical parts in the i30, maybe about the design, but who cares.
4. I could afford it.
My investigations is not nearly as thorough as yours...
I hope you will be able to make your choice without sleepless nights.
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Alan, we all envy you having the ability to purchase a fine new model car.
Based on the sound readings, there's obviously been a significant improvement in sound insulation. This cancels out the Hy's previous disadvantage over other brands. I'm wondering since you have the ability to drive the cars more, if you could get an extended distance drive to test the diesel fuel economy that YOU can obtain on a typical long trip. I know the motor is new and economy is probably not there yet, but it may help.
In Oz, heat shimmer is a problem on our country roads, so it is safer to select a colour other than silver for that reason. The roof line merges with the shimmer and is dangerous at highway speeds. People still select silver here though, just thought I'd put that in.
Also, the wheel rim size may make some difference too, can you get to drive a vehicle in the configuration that you intend to purchase?
All the best with your decision,,,,,, you lucky b........ :D
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Thanks for your thoughts - they are noted
I have added a footnote to my original post comparing total costs of ownership whilst you were posting yours - you might find it interesting.
The colours available are very limited - and will remain so for a year or more.
The aqua blue is awful, the steel grey possibly too dark, I don't like white cars and I would be forever having to clean a black car. Hence silver is in the frame but I am going to look at a steel grey car tomorrow to check it out.
Silver cars are not a problem here - quite the opposite - dark colours are the problem in our dismal doom and gloom. Especially in Manchester - eh Steve?
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we could have ourselves a motoring writer with Alan ho,brilliant post Alan. :mrgreen: :goodjob2: :goodjob:
in reply to 84's post....I'm sure if Alan went it to a dealer and heavily showed an interest in buying a 2012 i30 pending a looooong road test,they would say yes. :idea: remember that money talks. :twisted: :razz:
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I wouldn't go grey either. I own a silver / grey Holden (Dove Grey) is their name for it, the car was 2nd hand so I had no choice. It can be a very depressing colour in winter as everything is grey in the hills I live in. It has not weathered our sun terribly well either. My wife's purchase of the red I30, although not a colour I would have chosen, compensates beautifully on dull days in our driveway.
If you like the silver and as it's not a problem over there, then it would be silver for me too. :goodjob2:
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2i30's,
I think it is a learning experience for the dealership too. What customer brings a Db meter to test a car. No wonder the salesman was intrigued.
I don't think Alan will have any time to drive his new car, with all the articles to write and cars to sell in his new job at the dealership. :mrgreen:
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if you could get an extended distance drive to test the diesel fuel economy that YOU can obtain on a typical long trip. I know the motor is new and economy is probably not there yet, but it may help.
Also, the wheel rim size may make some difference too, can you get to drive a vehicle in the configuration that you intend to purchase?
All the best with your decision,,,,,, you lucky b........ :D
I think it would be too big an ask to borrow a car for at least two days to get enough mileage in on an assortment of roads, hills etc for the consumption to be valid. I am reasonable confident that the diesel car will average 55 mpg - Hyundai are adamant that it is 15% better than the previous model and I am getting nearly 49 mpg out of mine.
The petrol car is another matter - I don't really have a benchmark. Bumpkin has the same engine in his ix20 and gets around 40 mpg - I got 37.6 mpg on this road test so I think a guesstimate of 40 mpg is achievable. The dealership think I am being pessimistic - one of their salesmen is getting 44 mpg out of his old i30 1.4 petrol.
I drove the Style with 16" rims at Silverstone and took some sound readings there. It's not a perfect comparison but I am confident that the car is much quieter than mine and I am willing to stand by that. They cannot get their mits on a Style car for demo purposes for a few months and I don't want to wait any longer.
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Brilliant comparison Alan.
And I'm really pleased with the results of the db meter too - it appears that Hyundai have addressed that issue which is great.
Good luck with your decision. (I think I know which one you will choose) :))
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Follow your heart, Alan.... :goodjob2:
Hang the expense, you might as well enjoy what time you have left to the fullest.... :)
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Follow your heart, Alan.... :goodjob2:
In other words, get what your wife will be happiest in. :happydance:
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Follow your heart, Alan.... :goodjob2:
In other words, get what your wife will be happiest in. :happydance:
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Follow your heart, Alan.... :goodjob2:
In other words, get what your wife will be happiest in. :happydance:
You are trying to confuse me - my head says Petrol - my heart says diesel.
My other head (the wife) prefers petrol - she hates diesel bowsers and thinks the petrol car was "smoother" (it wasn't)
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Like I said a few posts ago, I think I know which way you'll go.
If you'd like to know before you know, let me know and I'll let you know, if you know what I mean.
Maybe I should write it down on a piece of paper and put it in an envelope, otherwise when I say I was right you'll accuse me of cheating. :)
I propose a vote on what he'll decide, that is open to everyone else and locked to Alan.
That way, after he decides he'll know whether he was right or wrong.
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Like I said a few posts ago, I think I know which way you'll go.
If you'd like to know before you know, let me know and I'll let you know, if you know what I mean.
Maybe I should write it down on a piece of paper and put it in an envelope, otherwise when I say I was right you'll accuse me of cheating. :)
I propose a vote on what he'll decide, that is open to everyone else and locked to Alan.
That way, after he decides he'll know whether he was right or wrong.
I know you know what Alan doesn't know, but there may be others who know like you, what Alan doesn't know, so why not have a poll. :question:
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Yes, let's.
I think that what I said? :lol:
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Sorry, you've already suggested that, I didn't see it. :-[
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Sorry, you've already suggested that, I didn't see it. :-[
No worries, it must be a good idea because we both thought of it.
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Don't do it lads - it might influence my decision when I see you all voting for the diesel....... :mrgreen:
Do you really want it on your conscience that your hasty actions in the interest of self satisfaction and group entertainment resulted in me making a decision that I regret for the rest of my limited number of days................. :blubber:
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But can it be done?
I don't know how.
I propose the question to be kept simple, such as:
When AlanHo buys his new i30, will he buy - (a) petrol (b) diesel (c) don't know
But we'd need to be able to block access to Alan (sorry Alan) to make it fair, then we can tell him later if he made the right choice. :goodjob2:
Make sense?
Sorry Alan, I posted this while you were posting your last one
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Well yes actually, it makes up for your message at the bottom of your posts. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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The only way I know is for each of you to PM your vote to a nominated worthy and trusted member of the forum to keep score.
We could first organise a poll to determine whether this is a good idea or not.
If that vote said it was a good idea - then organise a second poll to determine who is to keep the score from a list of volunteers
Once the result is announced you could then organise another poll to determine whether you thought the count of votes was fair and honest
You could then compare your results with my decision which would have been announced here before you got through the first poll.
Hang on - I suspect there is something odd about all this - can we organise a poll to see whether you agree.......................... :winker:
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Before any of that, I think we need a more general poll: Are polls a good idea?
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Before any of that, I think we need a more general poll: Are polls a good idea?
:whsaid:
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The only way I know is for each of you to PM your vote to a nominated worthy and trusted member of the forum to keep score.
I'll volunteer... :happydance: (to choose a worthy and trusted Member) :goodjob:
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The only way I know is for each of you to PM your vote to a nominated worthy and trusted member of the forum to keep score.
I'll volunteer... :happydance: (to choose a worthy and trusted Member) :goodjob:
I think you'd do nicely Dazz :)
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Alan, can't you just get another wife? :p
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Apparently you can trade them in.
If, for example, you have a 54 year old wife, you're able to trade them in for two 27 year olds I believe. :whistler: A 50 year old for two 25's etc.
That's what I tell mine anyway but she reckons I wouldn't know what to do with them :confused:
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The only way I know is for each of you to PM your vote to a nominated worthy and trusted member of the forum to keep score.
I'll volunteer... :happydance: (to choose a worthy and trusted Member) :goodjob:
I think you'd do nicely Dazz :)
For all those who want to vote.. PM petrol or diesel to me (Dave has already) :goodjob:
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I didn't do that to start off the vote.
It was just a pm :-[
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I didn't do that to start off the vote.
It was just a pm :-[
Too late .. you can't change your vote now :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Alan, can't you just get another wife? :p
Wouldn't that take months to pick the correct new model? I'm not sure I'd want to see all the detailed selection tests and comparison/running cost charts. :D
I'd probably recommend the petrol if they hadn't detuned it and made it slower. I wouldn't buy one of them now.
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Alan, can't you just get another wife? :p
Wouldn't that take months to pick the correct new model? I'm not sure I'd want to see all the detailed selection tests and comparison/running cost charts. :D
I'd probably recommend the petrol if they hadn't detuned it and made it slower. I wouldn't buy one of them now.
The best way is to put up some photos and we'll have a poll & select for you. :mrgreen:
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Alan, can't you just get another wife? :p
I have had two already and have only been married to my present wife for a couple of wonderful years. So your suggestion is not an option.... :happydance:
I have virtually decided which car to order but will be borrowing an i30 at 3:30 this afternoon for another 2 hour test run to satisfy myself I have made the right decision. This time I will be without anyone from the dealership - just my wife and I - so I will have more freedom about the route and driving style.. :goodjob:
I had a look at the steel grey car this morning - I didn't like it one bit. So my choice is silver.
Hyundai UK - through the dealer network - have sold a large number of cars this week-end to private buyers on top of some big trade sales. Hence it looks as though my car will be 1st May at the earliest - and every hour I delay pushes the date back further. My dealership told me that they have never before experienced so many sales in so few days and the biggest seller by far is the 1.6 CRDi Active model (roughly 50/50 split between the 110 PS and 128PS engine) followed by the 1.4 petrol Classic (the cheapest model). I am after a Style model and there are less of these in the Country.
So you need to get your PM's to Dazz pronto - time is running out for all of us.
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Alan, can't you just get another wife? :p
A cruel, but probably correct, question to pose :D
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Seems the only way to decide is to toss a coin.
Heads = Diesel
Tails = Petrol
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Seems the only way to decide is to toss a coin.
Heads = Diesel
Tails = Petrol
I suspect it will be
heads) diesel
tails) not petrol
and Alan will promise to always fill the car with stinky diesel himself. :D
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OK – the second road test of the i30 1.4 petrol did confirm that I had made the right decision. We drove for an hour covering 35 miles. Upon returning home I have just plotted the route on my PC using Garmin Mapsource maps and it comprised 8 miles of town roads with a few traffic lights (which always seem to be red for me), 9 miles of country roads and lanes where 40 mph was good going, 7 miles on a reasonable A road where I could drive at 50 mph and 11 miles on a motorway where I drove at 65 mph in light traffic. The trip recorder showed a fuel economy of 39.3 mpg (7.2 L/100km) at the end of the trip.
It is a great car and very spirited, is refined and gets good economy for a 1.4 engine in a relatively big body. It has all the bells and whistles of the more expensive diesel and has the same road presence. Insurance and serving costs will be less, which will compensate for the higher fuel and road tax costs. We rarely have 4 up in the car with luggage so a few extra gear changes to get up hills should not be a problem. I have to accept that it does not have the grunt of my current car – especially at speeds above 50 mph. My wife will feel happier knowing that I will not be tempted into any hairy overtaking manoeuvres or racing the young-uns away from the lights.
My head got it right for a change – as did my wife.
After returning the petrol car I took a 128 PS diesel out for a spin around the same route with my wife who was now a slightly bored passenger. I zeroed the trip fuel economy recorder before setting out. It took me a few minutes to find out how to change the trip setting to manual re - set – the car had been delivered with auto fuel re-set by default – the trip is zeroed when you add more than 6 litres of fuel to the tank). We drove the same route as the petrol car and the trip recorder showed a fuel economy of 62.3 mpg (4.53 L/100km) at the end of the trip.
The diesel had a lot going for it and the 128 PS engine has more grunt than my present car – but with better economy. However - I still have concerns about the possible costs of the variable geometry turbo, the dual mass flywheel and the DPF if they were to fail outside warranty – but who is to say whether my personal warranty is longer than the car’s – you never know at my age. It is certainly more fun than the petrol and has lower month by month running costs – but it costs a lot more up front. A big factor when you are a pensioner on a fixed income and dwindling savings.
Much to the chagrin of my wife I then drove the same route, at the same speeds, in my present i30 CRDi and it recorded fuel economy of 48.4 mpg (5.84 L/100km) for the trip. My wife is now cooking a late dinner whilst I type this report. One has to get one’s priorities in order.
So there you have it – I have driven both the petrol and diesel versions of the new car plus my existing car over the same route, at the same speeds, in the same weather conditions, on a Sunday when traffic is light and it confirmed my decision.
I have decided that you only live once. I followed my heart and look forward to doing a handbrake turn – even a doughnut – into the grave.
So I have ordered the diesel………….
My I30 1.6 CRDi blue drive Style in Sleek Silver will be passing down the Nosovice production line between the 5th and 8th of April and will arrive in the Felixstowe UK docks on the 13th April. I will receive it shortly after – but perhaps not until May 1st because we are on holiday in Cyprus at the end of April.
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Love the photo Alan (and delighted with your decision to go with a 128PS Diesel) :happydance:
I can imagine the "chagrin" (great word) of the Wife (Trish would be the same.. :rofl:)
I reckon you have earned the title of the # 1 ticket holder (or # 1 elder) of the i30owners Club for the thorough and entertaining way you have gone about this exercise of choosing a new i30
:judges: :brilliant:
EDIT: I got 5 votes (including yours :lol:) 4 for the diesel and only 1 for the petrol...
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Neat pic and a great choice of car, though personally I would have preferred a little more research :whistler: :P
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Good choice..... would be my choise too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So I have ordered the diesel………….
Were they doing good deals on the price?
i.e very good P/X compared to say what Parkers detail, dosh off list price?
Did you ask for and get any extras free of charge?
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Congratulations Alan - great choice at the end of the day. :goodjob:
I thought you liked the diesel more but thought you would go the petrol in the end.
So I've started off the week being wrong again :lol:
Enjoy your new i30.
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Congrats Alan, I almost got it right, I thought you might be put off by the dual mass flywheel and opt for auto. Any how, you can sleep easy now and look forward to that increased fuel economy in the future. Like me, you should look after the refuelling of the car as a favour to the wife, (and to make sure it's brimmed properly). :goodjob2:
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Good choice, Alan.....
I'm glad your heart won...... :goodjob:
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Were they doing good deals on the price?
i.e very good P/X compared to say what Parkers detail, dosh off list price?
Did you ask for and get any extras free of charge?
All I can say is that when you are in the market for a new Hyundai - or even a used one - you really should get in touch with my Hyundai dealership.
I had already done my homework about the trade-in value for my car and the sort of discount you can expect on a new model in the current climate. The dealership keep an eye on this forum and were aware I knew a lot about the new model. I traded in my current car and was offered a deal that I was happy with without any need for haggling. I am old and wise enough to know that there is no such thing as a free lunch and if a deal looks too good to be true - it normally is. In my experience a dealer who butters you up with so-called free or low cost extras has already covered the cost of these in his price or reduced P/X or discount.
The dealer was happy with the deal - so was I, safe in the knowledge I will remain a valued customer and will be well looked after if I should need their help in the future.
Motorfair
220 The Radleys,
Mackadown Lane
Garretts Green
BIRMINGHAM
West Midlands
B33 0QX
0121 788 2000
I have now bought 2 Hyundai cars from them, my wife has had 3 cars, relations and friends we have recommended have bought a total of 7 cars from them and two short term members of the forum last year got in touch with me and subsequently bought a new Hyundai car from them after reading my thread on the cruise control saga. One of them lived 200 miles away and was getting no cooperation from either of his local Hyundai dealers about having cruise fitted to a new i30 Premium he wanted to order. Motorfair sorted him out and he was delighted.
They are not a big flashy car palace like some of the premium brands - but a medium sized business with great customer service and a policy of putting customers first. You have nothing to lose - and possibly something to gain - by giving them a call from wherever you live. I realise that this sounds like a paid advert for them and you would be forgiven for thinking that I have an agenda or interest in the business. In a way I do - but simply as a very happy customer and happy to spread the word.
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Fair call Alan, I think above average service should be acknowledged, I wonder if they could arrange something for me :question:
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Enjoyed your Dealer Testimonial Alan (almost bought a lump to the throat) :goodjob:
Unfortunately, with our local Hyundai dealer you work out a fair trade in price then take about A$2000 off it (e.g. Add A$2000 to the changeover) that is partly why we ended up with a Toyota last time.. (only one Dealer in Tas with 4 or 5 outlets..) :disapp:
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Good to see good, fair service recognised & credit where credit's due. :goodjob2:
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Odd that my local dealer hasn't contacted me yet. They seemed keen to get me there for a buffet thing where they were showing off the Nissan Juke (they do Nissan as well as Hyundai) a few months ago.
Maybe they've got too many orders and don't need any more purchasers ??
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Odd that my local dealer hasn't contacted me yet. They seemed keen to get me there for a buffet thing where they were showing off the Nissan Juke (they do Nissan as well as Hyundai) a few months ago.
Maybe they've got too many orders and don't need any more purchasers ??
Just gatecrash whenever it's on.
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Odd that my local dealer hasn't contacted me yet. They seemed keen to get me there for a buffet thing where they were showing off the Nissan Juke (they do Nissan as well as Hyundai) a few months ago.
Maybe they've got too many orders and don't need any more purchasers ??
Just gatecrash whenever it's on.
Well I'd like quieter if Alan's assistant's figures are correct but the new 1.4 petrol is de-tuned to be 1.6 seconds slower 0-62 than mine for some odd reason. And I don't want an automatic and a diesel is impracticable for my driving.
Maybe they don't want me anymore. Boo-hoo. :D
Maybe I'll find a few quid for the turbo 1.6 later this year?? Though that is supposed to be two doors - bugger!
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congratulations on your new baby Alan,cant wait for some pics. :mrgreen: I'll have to just keep looking at my 2012 i30 brochure i bought from the UK on eBay. :P :P
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congratulations on your new baby Alan,cant wait for some pics. :mrgreen: I'll have to just keep looking at my 2012 i30 brochure i bought from the UK on eBay. :P :P
The one area where Hyundai lack the marketing clout of VW and Ford is the brochure. The hyundai 20 page 24 x 17 cm brochure is nicely presented and sufficiently informative - but the brochures for the Golf and Focus are 72 pages and 54 pages of full A4 size on high quality gloss paper stuffed full of glitz and glamour photos and loads of B.S descriptions in the most flowery terms. The VW brochure is especially detailed - with illustrations of every available option (and there are lots of them) and very detailed drawing of the cars showing all the salient internal and external dimensions. I don't think that more is necessarily better - but some people will be so impressed by glitzy brochures that they become convinced the car has superior qualities when in fact it does not. You can easily download the full hyundai brochure from the UK site in pdf format if you want an informative 20 page read.
I will of course put some pics on the forum when I get the car - the next month or two are going to pass all too slowly
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You don't really want to go on holiday to Cyprus do you :question:
Wouldn't you rather stay home just in case.......... :mrgreen:
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You don't really want to go on holiday to Cyprus do you :question:
Wouldn't you rather stay home just in case.......... :mrgreen:
If I could cancel my holiday without penalty - believe me - I would. But I suppose I would miss my wife's company for the week and her assistance in giving it its first clean and wax....... :evil:
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:laughter:
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This probably should be a new thread.
But how often do you wax Alan?
I thought we could compare.
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When are you picking up the new motor?
I've got a good relationship with my local dealer and like you I'd rather be given an acceptable price at the beginning rather than having to haggle.
As they expect you haggle they will have inflated the price knowing you will ask for cash off. Whether you get to their bottom line, who knows.
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When are you picking up the new motor?
You must have been too enthralled to get to the bottom of my earlier post................ :whistler:
My I30 1.6 CRDi blue drive Style in Sleek Silver will be passing down the Nosovice production line between the 5th and 8th of April and will arrive in the Felixstowe UK docks on the 13th April. I will receive it shortly after – but perhaps not until May 1st because we are on holiday in Cyprus at the end of April.
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When are you picking up the new motor?
You must have been too enthralled to get to the bottom of my earlier post................ :whistler:
My I30 1.6 CRDi blue drive Style in Sleek Silver will be passing down the Nosovice production line between the 5th and 8th of April and will arrive in the Felixstowe UK docks on the 13th April. I will receive it shortly after – but perhaps not until May 1st because we are on holiday in Cyprus at the end of April.
Sorry.
There was so much in the posts I've just missed it..
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I will receive it shortly after – but perhaps not until May 1st because we are on holiday in Cyprus at the end of April.
If you wish I'm willing to pick it up for you so it's outside your home on your return.
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I will receive it shortly after – but perhaps not until May 1st because we are on holiday in Cyprus at the end of April.
If you wish I'm willing to pick it up for you so it's outside your home on your return.
So many kind. considerate people in the forum family... :lol:
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Why is everyone so kind :D
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Why is everyone so kind :D
because we all share the the same thing,an i30,or 2. :mrgreen:
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I was thinking the other day when I was reading through the "First Car" thread that it's quite amazing really.
We all started off in different parts of the world, at different times, with different pasts and different futures, with different tastes and ambitions, etc, yet here we all are, and brought here because the founders of this forum decided to put it together, and all because we all happen to own (or owned, or want to own) an i30.
It's quite amazing when you think about it. :)
Dave
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Maybe in years to come the loser car companies will all be swallowed up and it will just be a matter of which Hyundai to buy. :mrgreen:
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I was thinking the other day when I was reading through the "First Car" thread that it's quite amazing really.
We all started off in different parts of the world, at different times, with different pasts and different futures, with different tastes and ambitions, etc, yet here we all are, and brought here because the founders of this forum decided to put it together, and all because we all happen to own (or owned, or want to own) an i30.
It's quite amazing when you think about it. :)
Dave
When you consider how different some of our first cars were it is amazing :goodjob:
Maybe in years to come the loser car companies will all be swallowed up and it will just be a matter of which Hyundai to buy. :mrgreen:
Probably a bit far fetched Phil... :whistler: But it is possible one day they might be the biggest :eek:
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Maybe in years to come the loser car companies will all be swallowed up and it will just be a matter of which Hyundai to buy. :mrgreen:
its starting to look like that at the moment. :mrgreen: :happydance:
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Especially Toyota, there a blight on society. White Goods belong in the kitchen :happydance:
With my first car, I'm lucky that I survived to own an I30...... :whistler:
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I don't agree with you about Toyota - I have had several models over the years starting with a Toyota Cressida in 1988, then a Camry, after which was a Corona, then an Avensis. They were all petrol cars. My late wife had a couple of Corolla's during this time. All were fine cars, drove well and totally reliable.
I sold my Corona to my son in 1998 and he still uses it to commute to London Heathrow from his house in Chippenham. It now looks awful - white with green mould and trim held on with duct tape - but it has now done 283,000 miles (455,000km) and has never let him down. He is an airline captain and parks his car in the senior staff car park at Heathrow amongst all the Porches, Lambo's, Aston Martins and other exotica indulged in by his younger, less frugal colleagues. The cars get badly knocked about in the staff car park by careless drivers or pedestrians wheeling big cases between them, they also get covered in a film of unburnt aviation fuel which causes the excessive mould on the bodywork. His workmates think he is barmy not having a decent car (he does - a new Avensis but keeps it at home) and they take the micky out of him. However - he will have the last laugh. His airline are about to be taken over by British Airways and redundancies are feared. His mates all have huge mortgages and flashy cars on credit and are sh1tting themselves with worry. He hasn't got a care in the World - no mortgage, no debts, no worries. He is now 52 years old and does not need another job - if he escapes the axe that will be fine - but if not - he will be relieved to be out of the airline business and free to drive his Toyotas any day he likes.
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free to drive his Toyotas any day he likes.
Being such a savvy lad why doesn't he have an i30?
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Sounds like your son is a chip off the old block Alan :goodjob:
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Being such a savvy lad why doesn't he have an i30?
Be assured that I have tried to persuade him - but there is a good Toyota dealership on his doorstep and for him it is the safe option - especially now they offer a 5 year warranty to pull the rug from under Hyundai's feet. Frankly - I can see his point - he has always had his cars serviced by the franchise. His job takes him away from home a lot and he cannot afford the time to travel far and wide to get his car(s) serviced. The nearest Hyundai dealer of any note is quite a distance away so for him it is a no-brainer. His Avensis doea all he needs and like his battered Corona seems to be bullet proof.
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Many years ago my late father had a Toyota Celica, it was the only car he ever owned that he sold 2nd hand for more than the purchase price. :D
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I had to Google Toyota Avensis (I didn't even know what they looked like) :-[
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I've had a couple of Landcruisers over the years - firstly a 60 series petrol/LPG, then an 80 series petrol/LPG.
They were good at the time for what I wanted but Toyota aren't my favourite marque now.
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Thanks Alan for posting all the info on the new i30 and in particular the dBA levels.
I'm getting the same i30 as you soon and as I'll be driving 2.5hrs per day, I'm hoping it will be comfortable on the motorway. My current 2010 Ceed is pretty good now that I've got rid of the original Michelin tyres. These were the worst I'd every experienced. They were ok until about 15k miles then got worse and worse. The noise was terrible. I had to wait until 30k miles until they were worn out enough to replace the set. I then got a set of Hankook Optima 4S (all season tyres) and its transformed the ride quality and noise. The car is soooo much quieter now.
How much did the dealer charge you for changing the tyres on your new car? Did they part-ex the factory fit tyres?
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Hi Matt,
See Alan's post number 8 here for the details of his Tyre swap...
https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=14090.msg154644#msg154644 (https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=14090.msg154644#msg154644)
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Thanks for the link.
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Welcome johnG to our friendly forum.
Nice to see you having some input on post #1 :happydance: