Post by: Hemmi on November 02, 2008, 01:05:28
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u52/hermannh/Picture1-6.png)(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u52/hermannh/Picture2-4.png)
I had a look tonight at the wiring and just to get an idea how easy or hard this is, took a few pictures.
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u52/hermannh/001-3.jpg)
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u52/hermannh/002-3.jpg)
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u52/hermannh/03-1.jpg)
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u52/hermannh/004-2.jpg)
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u52/hermannh/005-2.jpg)
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u52/hermannh/006-2.jpg)
Here's the connector to the button that turns off the light inside when the door's shut,
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u52/hermannh/007-2.jpg)
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u52/hermannh/008-2.jpg)
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u52/hermannh/009-2.jpg)
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u52/hermannh/0100.jpg)
The idea was to connect the new lights to this line, which has about 10V, but I dont understand why there is just one line in the connector, and there is always 10V on the line so I dont understand how this button turns the lights off :|
Post by: teamgeorge on November 02, 2008, 01:46:28
something else for me to think about
8 days till i get my i30!
Post by: Seoul-mate on November 02, 2008, 07:36:44
Does that make any sense? Just a suggestion.
Post by: RegY on November 02, 2008, 12:39:44
Post by: Hemmi on November 02, 2008, 17:14:17
Quote from: "Seoul-mate"
Maybe it "earths" the wire to the body and completes the circuit once the door switch is open??
Does that make any sense? Just a suggestion.
you're right!
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In nearly all cars you’ll find a single wire that leads to the switch. When the door is open the wire is earthed, so completing the circuit and switching on the light
Now I have something to think about.
Thanks.
Post by: LuciferDarklord on November 03, 2008, 12:01:18
Post by: YOSOYPEPO on November 03, 2008, 21:52:32
the negative cable put it in another hole in this photo
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u52/hermannh/0100.jpg)
just only you have to connect these wires to the bulbs or LEDs.
good luck
Post by: YOSOYPEPO on November 03, 2008, 21:54:53
don't cut the positive only peeling for the conection
Post by: Hemmi on November 03, 2008, 23:22:06
Post by: YOSOYPEPO on November 04, 2008, 08:49:51
Quote from: "Hemmi"
hi YOSOYPEPO, thanks for the reply, I still don't know where I get positive (12V)
(http://www.postimage.org/Pq9Y4rJ.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq9Y4rJ)
in the red zone you must to found this one red positive. is very fat than another.
(http://www.postimage.org/Pq5bFbuA.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq5bFbuA)
Post by: DeathRattle on November 04, 2008, 10:31:03
Unless you like pain, don't even think your going to get a wire of any description from the car into the door.
Not without major headaches at least.
The body connector has every single pin wired and installed.
So unless your ready to put serious time into the process stop now.
If you want to proceed, be prepared to completely remove the door from the car.
It'll be faster and easier than doing 'plug mods' with the door still bolted on.
There may be a suitable wire already in the door, test carefully first.
*This applies to the drivers door, I have not played with the other doors as I had no need to*
Post by: Hemmi on November 04, 2008, 16:53:36
Post by: YOSOYPEPO on November 04, 2008, 19:25:53
Quote from: "Hemmi"
Thanks YOSOYPEPO :)good luck boy
what mod will you use LED's or traditional lamp?
Post by: Hemmi on November 04, 2008, 22:53:41
Quote from: "YOSOYPEPO"
Quote from: "Hemmi"Thanks YOSOYPEPO :)good luck boy
what mod will you use LED's or traditional lamp?
I'm going to use leds.
Post by: DeathRattle on November 06, 2008, 09:50:56
Open door fully.
Disconnect rubber wiring boot from door, then body.
Compress (two lock pins) and partially withdraw plug/socket assy from body.
Remove the plastic colar from around the plug/socket assy (colar is in two 'U' shaped pieces).
Fully (haha, have fun) remove the plug/socket assy from the body. (theres about 7cm of spare cable slack in the body).
Unlock and hinge the assy latch on the rear of the plug/socket assy (body side).
This will disconnect the plug from the socket.
Note how every single spot on the body plug is wired and pinned.
Now think very carefully about how your going to get any extra wires though a plug that is already filled to it's limit.
To reassemble you must follow the reverse exactly or you won't get it back in the body.
You also need to be very carefull while trying to put it back into the body hole.
If you are not you may damage the locking lever on the back of the body socket.
I almost did.
Allow for some swearing duing this proceedure.
Oh, and allow loooots of time, it is not something you can rush........
Post by: Hemmi on November 11, 2008, 05:24:33
(http://www.internet.is/hermannh/led1.jpg)
(http://www.internet.is/hermannh/led2.jpg)
Post by: YOSOYPEPO on November 11, 2008, 09:17:30
Quote from: "Hemmi"
found those on i30club.net :geek:nice!!!
Post by: tiny on November 11, 2008, 23:42:06
Post by: LuciferDarklord on November 12, 2008, 11:40:44
Post by: Hemmi on November 15, 2008, 22:28:49
What I was hoping for is for the light to come on no matter if the keys are in or not. :x
Post by: DeathRattle on November 15, 2008, 23:21:02
Quote from: "Hemmi"
So what I need now is to find a wire with 12V all the time.
There is one, BUT, it is in the body socket.
So if you want to use it you will have to get another plug from a wreckers, strip the pins out, and do it properly from the door/body assy.
Although I haven't tested the other pins, It would be interesting to know what the other (spare) wires are in the body plug.
Hint hint.
Anyone with HMC service disc's able to show the door/body wiring ??????
Post by: YOSOYPEPO on November 17, 2008, 19:33:52
i don't know what's wrong. my red is a wire 12v allways. sorry men i can't help you in this way
Post by: Hemmi on November 17, 2008, 19:35:37
Quote from: "YOSOYPEPO"
hi
i don't know what's wrong. my red is a wire 12v allways. sorry men i can't help you in this way
So when you open the door and the keys are not in, you get light ?
Post by: YOSOYPEPO on November 17, 2008, 20:01:47
Quote from: "Hemmi"
Yes without key the lights turn onQuote from: "YOSOYPEPO"hi
i don't know what's wrong. my red is a wire 12v allways. sorry men i can't help you in this way
So when you open the door and the keys are not in, you get light ?
Post by: Hemmi on November 17, 2008, 20:55:14
Post by: Rubix on November 27, 2008, 11:45:45
Post by: Hemmi on November 27, 2008, 12:53:15
Did you work it out Hemmi?
No :'(
Post by: YOSOYPEPO on November 27, 2008, 12:57:14
Post by: Hemmi on November 27, 2008, 13:06:46
try with another positive wire
I did, there are two other 12V wires in the door, but they dont allow me to hook a circuit to it.
I designed a LED circuit that uses 12V, then I connected it to one of this wires, and the voltage dropped to 8V, so there must be some kind of a current limiter on that line. And the LEDs arent bright at 8V, because I designed the circuit for 12V.
I still dont understand why your red wire is always 12V, I talked to a mechanic and he says that theres no way a constant 12V is in the door, that means you can power the windows and use all the buttons when the cars off, and that should never be possible.
grrrrrr, why are there so many versions of this car :'(
Post by: Rubix on November 27, 2008, 13:16:31
No :'((http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/pict/2002785850808080_1.jpg)
You need one of these - strip each wire 5mm, 1 by 1, and test their charge as you go, while the door is open. Make sure you wrap your stripped area with electric tape after each is checked.
If you don't have one, you could buy a voltmeter like in Yoso's mod thread, and once you have your wire you can then install that next to your lighter like he did :D
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I still dont understand why your red wire is always 12V, I talked to a mechanic and he says that theres no way a constant 12V is in the door, that means you can power the windows and use all the buttons when the cars off, and that should never be possible.??? Um, only if the windows are connected to it? Which they wouldn't be? Your mechanic... /slap him.
Question me this:
When your rearview-mirror-light is on "Door", does it not turn on when any door is opened?
It turns on when the button thingy (real technical, aren't I?) isn't depressed. You should be able to connect your light to the same wire that goes to that button (which isn't necessarily in the door, it can be in the frame - I don't have my i30 to check :'( ).
Some cars have alarms that activate if you purely pull the handle without turning the alarm off - those cars would have to have active wires in the door - but that wouldn't help us because turn off the alarm and I would assume that would deactivate that wire's charge :P
If you haven't gotten an answer in 3 or 4 weeks when I have mine I'll see what I can find to compare.
Post by: Hemmi on November 27, 2008, 13:29:05
No :'((http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/pict/2002785850808080_1.jpg)
You need one of these - strip each wire 5mm, 1 by 1, and test their charge as you go, while the door is open. Make sure you wrap your stripped area with electric tape after each is checked.
If you don't have one, you could buy a voltmeter like in Yoso's mod thread, and once you have your wire you can then install that next to your lighter like he did :DQuoteI still dont understand why your red wire is always 12V, I talked to a mechanic and he says that theres no way a constant 12V is in the door, that means you can power the windows and use all the buttons when the cars off, and that should never be possible.??? Um, only if the windows are connected to it? Which they wouldn't be? Your mechanic... /slap him.
Question me this:
When your rearview-mirror-light is on "Door", does it not turn on when any door is opened?
It turns on when the button thingy (real technical, aren't I?) isn't depressed. You should be able to connect your light to the same wire that goes to that button (which isn't necessarily in the door, it can be in the frame - I don't have my i30 to check :'( ).
Some cars have alarms that activate if you purely pull the handle without turning the alarm off - those cars would have to have active wires in the door - but that wouldn't help us because turn off the alarm and I would assume that would deactivate that wire's charge :P
If you haven't gotten an answer in 3 or 4 weeks when I have mine I'll see what I can find to compare.
I got a voltmeter, so I dont need to strip the wires, just measure in the end plug.
I never use the rearview mirror light, I only use the ceiling light.
I think my alarm is not active, at least nothing happens when I try to activate it.
Why does my red wire have 12V only when the car is on :mad:
Post by: Rubix on November 27, 2008, 13:37:22
I got a voltmeter, so I dont need to strip the wires, just measure in the end plug.I just figured there'd be more wires than would go to that plug
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I never use the rearview mirror light, I only use the ceiling light.Maybe we're talking about the same thing - the one that has the options: "On/Door/Off" - I usually use the middle one...
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I think my alarm is not active, at least nothing happens when I try to activate it.Yeah, I believe the i30 alarm is not so sensitive as to go off when you touch a door handle. To test that it's on - lock the doors while you're inside and then try popping the bonnet after 1 min wait - it takes a while to activate (I got this from another thread on this forum, this isn't my idea)
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Why does my red wire have 12V only when the car is on :mad:THAT would probably be the window one... ;)
Post by: Hemmi on November 27, 2008, 13:40:47
Post by: YOSOYPEPO on November 27, 2008, 14:02:35
thaks Rubix for the help, I'll check out the other wires on the weekend, I'll post here if I have any success or not.good luck Hemmi
Post by: bachus on May 31, 2009, 07:32:54
I already was thinking about removing the whole door - as I read in the thread now too. So I could start from outside, but than I've still no idea how to catch the loose end of the cable inside the car. So how do I get the cable into the door? :mad: :evil:
Post by: bachus on June 01, 2009, 10:51:48
Now with wrenched neck I know, that the plug connection to the door has 39 pins (3 lines each 13)! That's what I count from inside (did it triple to assure). The good news is that there are some unused slots. The bad news is that I now have to figure out what kind of cable lug (correct word?) is used.
I haven't imagine that there are so many wires.. though there are some slots left.
Post by: Dazzler on June 01, 2009, 13:51:26
Noone out there who can help me?
Please be patient.. not everyone out there visits us every day.. :wink:
Post by: bachus on June 07, 2009, 17:04:21
There should be splashproof switches at the market. What do you think about that?
edit:
Could use a reed-switch. Magnet beneath the entry guard and switch inside the door. So no drilling required :)
Post by: Dazzler on June 07, 2009, 23:02:00
Post by: 130MAN on June 13, 2009, 02:35:06
Can someone tell me if the door reflectors come on automatically, because my I30 does not work when I put on my headlights on and open the door?
Post by: Dazzler on June 13, 2009, 09:59:00
Hi,
Can someone tell me if the door reflectors come on automatically, because my I30 does not work when I put on my headlights on and open the door?
Unfortunately they are only reflectors not illuminated .. although some have modified them so they do light up...
Post by: 130MAN on June 13, 2009, 11:01:18
Post by: felipe3k on October 05, 2009, 05:07:17
Hemmi, did you get anything????
i always tought they came on after opening the door... but guess i was wrong...
i wanna try this.... :)
Post by: Hemmi on October 05, 2009, 09:35:18
Hemmi, did you get anything????
Nope :(
Post by: nikitas i30 on August 20, 2010, 10:32:09
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u52/hermannh/002-3.jpg)
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u52/hermannh/03-1.jpg)
What's that white thing on the upper right corner of the third photo,behind the reflector?A harness or something?
Post by: Hemmi on August 20, 2010, 10:47:15
Post by: Myowni30 on September 28, 2010, 13:41:13
Not sure how much room there is behind the door panel. But could you not use a 10mm red led with a 3v battery pack and a small micro push to break switch to turn on the led when the door is open. Not sure what position the switch would need to be in to operate it, but sure it could be fitted into the door panel to push it in when the door is closed.
The 2x AAA battery packs are quite small.
So if there is enough room to install it:
1 x 10mm super bright red led
1 x correct resistor
1 x 3v battery pack (AAA type)
1 x micro switch (push to break)
1 x wire to make up the circuit
Sure the batteries would last for several years or more. The door is generally only open for a few seconds at a time. And even if it is open for longer, I would think the batteries would power a led for several hours.
Post by: nikitas i30 on September 28, 2010, 17:10:46
(http://www.zeilmall.com/zeilcar/images38/ZA-L4250_100207_13.jpg)
Post by: nikitas i30 on September 30, 2010, 17:10:25
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/ACCENTWIZARD/0044-2.jpg)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/ACCENTWIZARD/0043-2.jpg)
Post by: Shambles on September 30, 2010, 17:19:35
Do you like my project ?
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/ACCENTWIZARD/0044-2.jpg)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/ACCENTWIZARD/0043-2.jpg)
Splendid!
You fitted a door card in your engine bay :eek: :lol: :P
Good work. Have you wired your doors yet?
Post by: nikitas i30 on September 30, 2010, 17:33:31
Post by: agentr31 on September 30, 2010, 23:44:14
You fitted a door card in your engine bay :eek: :lol: :P
wow... thats tidy!
Post by: bobbyd on October 01, 2010, 02:01:22
As for the mention of the alarm not working, the i30 has a 60 second countdown before the alarm is activated once you hit the remote. Dont know why? but i thought my alarm wasn't working when i could lock up but then open the bonnet without the alarm beeping. On investigating found out the 60 second delay, and it goes off if you open the bonnet etc after waiting the minute.
Post by: nikitas i30 on May 17, 2012, 20:04:32
Do you like my door lights??
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/ACCENTWIZARD/IMAG0045.jpg)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/ACCENTWIZARD/IMAG0043.jpg)
I just follow the steps of the first post,and i need to take out the doors.
It was needed for to pass through the harness the two cables.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/ACCENTWIZARD/____-_-2.jpg)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/ACCENTWIZARD/____-_-1.jpg)
Post by: meehalych on May 17, 2012, 20:27:39
http://www.hyundai-iclub.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=2075 (http://www.hyundai-iclub.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=2075)
Post by: AlanHo on May 17, 2012, 20:29:05
Post by: Dazzler on May 17, 2012, 23:42:05
Thanks for the pix too :D
Post by: nikitas i30 on December 10, 2012, 18:09:48
http://www.i30club.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=bbac35b0280e3726aeafc3ecd5e8d661&topic=2396.0 (http://www.i30club.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=bbac35b0280e3726aeafc3ecd5e8d661&topic=2396.0)
Post by: Asterix on December 10, 2012, 18:48:23
Post by: Dazzler on December 10, 2012, 20:40:52
Looking good... :goodjob:
:whsaid: and interest positioning too :hatoff:
Post by: accim on December 10, 2012, 21:29:36