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THE GARAGE (SERVICE, MAINTENANCE & REPAIR) => TECHNICAL INFO => Topic started by: AlanHo on April 13, 2012, 15:48:50
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I would appreciate help from one of our kind members who runs a 2010 or 2011 i30 diesel with a 6 speed manual box and a sat-nav which displays the car speed.
I would like to compare gear ratios with the new car. Why? - because my new car feels higher geared - but it may simply be an illusion because the engine is still tight.
What I would appreciate is someone to run their car at exactly 2000 rpm in each gear and note down the car's exact speed as shown on the sat-nav - not on the car's speedo, which is not usually dead accurate. I also need your tyre size.
I will then produce a table comparing both models.
My car - 2012 Style 1.6 CRDi 128PS
Tyres 205 55 R16
Speeds at 2000 rpm in km/hr 18 32 56 79 93 111
Sppeds at 2000 rpm in mph 11 20 35 49 58 69
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If others with different car specs wish to participate - that would be a bonus. I could then produce a table showing the car speed per 1000 rpm for each model that is submitted. It all adds to our i30 data base.
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Good idea Alan.. The first candidate that comes to mind would be Lakes (John) he fits your description..
If no one else responds or John doesn't see this it might be worth a PM (John usually only come on very early our time - before he goes to work)
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BUMP
Come on guys - one of you must have a 6 speed manual diesel and a sat-nav........ :TutTut: :needhelp: :honk: :Prayer:
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'Twas thinking about this yesterday as I was driving but I didn't have a pen and paper handy, and of course I only have a 5 speed. :confused:
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:whsaid:
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Well, I went for another drive and here's what I came up with: :D
1st - 15kph
2nd - 28kph
3rd - 48kph
4th - 67kph
5th - 85kph
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Thanks Russ - you are a kind gent. Now to find someone with a 6 speeder............. :Prayer:
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Mine's a diesel 5 speed and my readings as per my SatNav were:
1st: 15 km/h
2nd: 29 km/h
3rd: 49 km/h
4th: 68 km/h
5th: 88 km/h
Dave :)
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I'll PM lakes with a link to this thread .. this is right up his alley
Can anyone else think of a 6 speed owner who uses a GPS and is a regular visitor (Is so please PM them a link)
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Alan, I can't find it now, but did you get my results that I posted with my 5 speed?
I know you want 6 speed results but thought I'd at least give you those.
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Alan, I can't find it now, but did you get my results that I posted with my 5 speed?
I know you want 6 speed results but thought I'd at least give you those.
Sorry Dave - I cannot see it in the thread - did you post it elsewhere?
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I thought (I'm sure :undecided:) I posted it in your original request thread.
Maybe the gremlins are at work again. Didn't someone else post the results for a five speed too? :confused:
Anyhow, I'll post it again. These are at 2000 rpm, speeds from SatNav.
1st: 15 km/h
2md: 29 km/h
3rd: 49 km/h
4th: 68 km/h
5th: 88 km/h.
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'Twas me that posted the other one, Dave and I'm buggered if I can find them now.... :undecided:
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Spooky :scared:
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Not guilty m'lord.
Dave - is your car a 1.6 or 2.0 litre?
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Lucky I still have the piece of paper I wrote them on..... :D
1st - 15kph
2nd - 28kph
3rd - 48kph
4th - 67kph
5th - 85kph
I might check fifth again as I did this on a hilly back road...... :)
Edit: just checked and all's good.... :goodjob:
205/55/16 Tyres.
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Thanks guys.
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Could be useful to include wheel/tyre size.
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Seems like the Gremlins are back....I wonder what other posts have gone walkabout? :undecided:
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Could be useful to include wheel/tyre size.
Good thinkin', 99..... :goodjob:
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Not guilty m'lord.
Dave - is your car a 1.6 or 2.0 litre?
1.6 diesel.
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Alan, I am unable to help you on this research BUT, and I have to say before I make a fool of myself here that I fully expect to be shot down in flames, BUT, since the speedo is less than reliable (mine is bout 3 MPH fast) what makes you think that the rev counter is any better ????
Not that I want to throw a damper on your excellent research, from which we all benefit me included.
Just a thought for you to factor in or disregard as is your wont.
Kind regards
Asa
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Seems like the Gremlins are back....I wonder what other posts have gone walkabout? :undecided:
None, hopefully. I "invisibilised" the 5-speed posts as they seemed irrelevant to what Alan was desperately asking for. Ah well, they're "uninvisibilised" now :cool:
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Seems like the Gremlins are back....I wonder what other posts have gone walkabout? :undecided:
None, hopefully. I "invisibilised" the 5-speed posts as they seemed irrelevant to what Alan was desperately asking for. Ah well, they're "uninvisibilised" now :cool:
So you didn't read this part of Alan's original post then, Steve..... :p
If others with different car specs wish to participate - that would be a bonus. I could then produce a table showing the car speed per 1000 rpm for each model that is submitted. It all adds to our i30 data base.
Me thinks you can go stand in the naughty corner now... :razz:
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So you didn't read this part of Alan's original post then, Steve..... :p
My mistake entirely :-[
Been spending far too much time on the new theme options :wacko:
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Alan, I am unable to help you on this research BUT, and I have to say before I make a fool of myself here that I fully expect to be shot down in flames, BUT, since the speedo is less than reliable (mine is bout 3 MPH fast) what makes you think that the rev counter is any better ????
Not that I want to throw a damper on your excellent research, from which we all benefit me included.
Just a thought for you to factor in or disregard as is your wont.
Kind regards
Asa
ASA - it had not escaped my thoughts ( great minds thing alike) - but I guess the rev counter stands more chance of being accurate than the speedo which has got tyre rolling radius and slippage to contend with and a safety factor tweak built in by the manufacturer. I started the thread because my new car - though more powerful than the last - feels less lively in the higher gears and I wondered whether the gear ratios had been lifted in the interest of squeezing the lowest emissions out of the government tests. It might be because the engine is still tight - only time will tell.
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Yeppers Alan, I should have known you'd have factored it in <sigh>... And yes it probably is a tad more reliable :P...
I'll just keep and eye out so you don't miss anything :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I quite fancy the new i30 but at the moment I am impecunious but it's on my bucket list :goodjob: :goodjob: :goodjob:
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Alan, for a while now I've been wondering why you just didn't compare the gear ratios that are listed in the specifications of the new and old i30's..... :undecided:
I've now found out why, I'm buggered if I can find any gear ratios listed for the new generation i30....:eek:
Are they shown in your manual?
Anyhow, here are the Aussie model ratios, hope these will help with your comparison. :D
1.6 2.0 1.6 CRDi
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/rustynutz69/GearRatios.jpg)
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Russ
Thanks for that info - but you have discovered why I tried to find another way of comparing the gearing.
The only reference I found to the gear ratios for the new i30 6 spd diesel was in the UK Autocar magazine road test of 14th March 2012.
This was as follows :-
1. Ratio = 3.61 speed per 1000 rpm= 4.8 mph
2. Ratio = 1.95 speed per 1000 rpm= 8.9 mph
3. Ratio = 1.37 speed per 1000 rpm= 12.7 mph
4. Ratio = 1.03 speed per 1000 rpm= 16.8 mph
5. Ratio = 0.89 speed per 1000 rpm= 19.5 mph
6. Ratio = 0.77 speed per 1000 rpm= 22.5 mph
Final drive ratio = 4.267
However - I don't believe this data. For a start my car in 6th gear does 69 mph at 2000 rpm = 34.5 mph (55.54 km/h) at 1000 rpm. The autocar figure is only 22.5 mph.
Also Autocar list the maximum speed as 115 mph for 6th gear at 5112 rpm. This is equal to 22.5 mph at 1000 rpm
If I could get my car in 6th gear up to an engine speed of 5112 rpm I would be travelling at 176 mph.
If we start from scratch and use the tyre size data - the formula for calculating the car speed for a given engine rpm is :-
km/hour = (Engine rpm x Tyre Circumference in metres) divided by (Gear ratio x final drive ratio x 16.66)
The tyre circumference can be found here ...http://bndtechsource.ucoz.com/index/tire_data_calculator/0-20 (http://bndtechsource.ucoz.com/index/tire_data_calculator/0-20)
Assuming your 6 speed 1.6 CRDi cars are using 205 55 R16 tyres - the circumference is 1.927 metres
Using the above formula : engine speed 2000 rpm, gear ratio 0.596, final drive 3.941, 6th gear - works out at 98.50 km/hr. This is quite a bit higher than the 85 and 88 km/hr speeds found by you guys using your sat-navs with your 5 speed diesels.
I have a similar problem with my car. If the autocar 6th gear ratio figures are used the car speed at 2000 rpm should be 70.4 km/hr whereas my sat-nav test indicated a car speed of 111 km/hr
For a second test I found a web site in which you enter your tyre size and gear ratios and it does the calculation for you...
http://www.boosttown.com/gearbox_differential/speed_calculator.php (http://www.boosttown.com/gearbox_differential/speed_calculator.php)
Hence I am confused - unless I am doing something stupid with my maths there is an anomoly with the gear ratios declared by Hyundai and the Autocar magazine when compared with the actual tests using a sat-nav.
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Thanks for that, Alan...unfortunately most of it goes straight over my head so not much help here.... :-[
Oh, and I've just realised I didn't include which model was which in the gear ratio pic....
They are 1.6, 2.0 Petrol and 1.6 CRDi.......
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I checked my tyres and just as I thought, they are round and black.
Oh, and 205/55/16. :)
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I checked my tyres and just as I thought, they are round and black.
Oh, and 205/55/16. :)
You are lucky mine are a little flat on the bottom :P
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Alan, I am unable to help you on this research BUT, and I have to say before I make a fool of myself here that I fully expect to be shot down in flames, BUT, since the speedo is less than reliable (mine is bout 3 MPH fast) what makes you think that the rev counter is any better ????
Not that I want to throw a damper on your excellent research, from which we all benefit me included.
Just a thought for you to factor in or disregard as is your wont.
Kind regards
Asa
Asa,
The engine revs would most likely be obtained as a result of electric impulses derived from a sensor. This info is also used by the ECU to do lots of things, (time the fuel injection etc) so unless the pulses are stuffed up by the tacho (which is an analogue display) it should be pretty accurate, more so than the speedo. :neutral:
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Thanks for that, Alan...unfortunately most of it goes straight over my head so not much help here.... :-[
Oh, and I've just realised I didn't include which model was which in the gear ratio pic....
They are 1.6, 2.0 Petrol and 1.6 CRDi.......
Thanks for the clarification - I have amended my calculations to show the 6 speed diesel you gave the ratios for.
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.. This is quite a bit higher than the 85 and 88 km/hr speeds found by you guys using your sat-navs with your 5 speed diesels.
Alan, using your formula and the correct ratios for 5 speed diesel; 0.66 and 3.94, I get 88.96 km/h. This does correlate very closely with that measured by Russ and particularly DB08.
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.. This is quite a bit higher than the 85 and 88 km/hr speeds found by you guys using your sat-navs with your 5 speed diesels.
Alan, using your formula and the correct ratios for 5 speed diesel; 0.66 and 3.94, I get 88.96 km/h. This does correlate very closely with that measured by Russ and particularly DB08.
That's good.... :goodjob: At the time I did the calc I didn't realise from the table that the 5 speed cars were petrol - so I have since amended the post to use the 6 speed diesel data.
You have just filled in a gap for me - the 5 speed diesel ratio for 5th gear. Do you have the ratios for the other gears too ?
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BUMP
Come on guys - one of you must have a 6 speed manual diesel and a sat-nav........ :TutTut: :needhelp: :honk: :Prayer:
Sorry Alan I missed this post.
I have a 6 speed diesel on 205/65 x 16 tyres with only 3000 miles wear. (Winter tyres Nov - Apr)
I have a new Garmin sat nav and a GPS SCD with an LED speed read out.
My speedo only appears to be reading 1 mph fast compared with both the devices (which read the same speed)
My sat nav has the Eco fuel consumption setting which provides an OSD when the device is turned off showing fuel consumption and cost based on entering each fill and cost per litre. As I keep a record of fill and mileage it will be interesting to compare the car computer, the sat nav figure and my manual entry after long run. Off to south of France soon so that maybe the idel opportunity.
In the meantime I will get the readings you need and post them soon.
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Your new 6spd is quite faster at 2000rpms then the older 6spd, especially in 4th and 5th gear.
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Do you have the ratios for the other gears too ?
Here you go, Alan..... :D
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y150/rustynutz69/GearRatios2.jpg)
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Well done Russ, I looked for a long time but couldn't find them. :(
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Thanks pip! :D
I just happened to have a brochure stored on one of my hard drives.......
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Thanks for the contributions - I am away in Cyprus on holiday at present and will consolidate the resuts when I return home in a week's time.
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I am away in Cyprus on holiday at present
Hope the weather is better than here.
Rain/sun/showers all day and cool about 5C..
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just found this post.
my 6 speed speedo is a lot closer to what my Garmin GPS is reading than what my old 5 speed was. but for some strange reason the GPS Trip & the Hyundai trip meter don't agree.still have to remember this Garmin is old & maps outdated i think its over 7 years old, but it works perfect as a speed check as easy to see & still keep eye on road, thats the problem we face here in Sydney. speed camera's safty camera's and random speed camera's that are randomly set up anywhere. i think its revenue & also think its not safe as how can you check speedo and keep eye on the road at same time. you can't win :rofl:
cheers
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Thanks for the contributions - I am away in Cyprus on holiday at present and will consolidate the resuts when I return home in a week's time.
On holiday in Cypress and still on the forum. Now there's commitment. :goodjob2:
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Thanks for the contributions - I am away in Cyprus on holiday at present and will consolidate the resuts when I return home in a week's time.
On holiday in Cypress and still on the forum. Now there's commitment. :goodjob2:
.. or boredom :undecided:
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I always have an hour or so to fill in whilst waiting for my wife to get ready for dinner.
She is currently at the "what shall I wear tonight - would I look OK in this...."stage.
There is at least another 40minutes to go before I log off.................. :mrgreen:
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I always have an hour or so to fill in whilst waiting for my wife to get ready for dinner.
She is currently at the "what shall I wear tonight - would I look OK in this...."stage.
There is at least another 40minutes to go before I log off.................. :mrgreen:
I hate those questions because there is never a correct answer - it's a fluid thing where an answer might be right today and wrong tomorrow or vice versa.
"Does my bum look big in this?" is another one.
Apparently, "Yes, your bum looks big in everything" is not correct under any circumstances. :confused:
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I would appreciate help from one of our kind members who runs a 2010 or 2011 i30 diesel with a 6 speed manual box and a sat-nav which displays the car speed.
I would like to compare gear ratios with the new car. Why? - because my new car feels higher geared - but it may simply be an illusion because the engine is still tight.
What I would appreciate is someone to run their car at exactly 2000 rpm in each gear and note down the car's exact speed as shown on the sat-nav - not on the car's speedo, which is not usually dead accurate. I also need your tyre size.
I will then produce a table comparing both models.
My car - 2012 Style 1.6 CRDi 128PS
Tyres 205 55 R16
Speeds at 2000 rpm in km/hr 18 32 56 79 93 111
Sppeds at 2000 rpm in mph 11 20 35 49 58 69
PS
If others with different car specs wish to participate - that would be a bonus. I could then produce a table showing the car speed per 1000 rpm for each model that is submitted. It all adds to our i30 data base.
Alan sorry for being slow just found out you wanted to compare gear ratio's .
well yesturday i had to find a very quite street to do the 1st &2nd gear seed check with gps speedo ( Garmin ) all these speeds are from my GPS not the speedo & all are @ 2000rpm ( if tach is accurate)
1st gear @ 2000rpm via Garmin GPS Speedo=15kph
2nd gear @ 2000 Via Garmin GPS speedo=30kph
3rd gear @ 2000 via Garmin GPS speedo=48kph
4th gear @ 2000 via Garmin GPS speeo=67kph
5th gear @ 2000 via Garmin GPS speedo=80kph
6th gear @ 2000 via Garmin GPS speedo=95kph
hope this helps
Lakes
this is 2011 i30 CRDi 6 speed SLX stock SLX 16" mag wheels & stock tyres 20k up
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just thought i'd ask what is the diff ratio on your new car Alan?
i drove ford fiesta 1.6 turbo diesel few years back it had taller ratio diff and was a bit of a slug i like the lower ratio diff the i30 use seems to be same as my 5 speeds diff ratio perfect for australia's low maxium speed as can use all 6 gears & no big gaps between the gears like with 5 speed there is a big gap 4th to 5th, you notice this more when you have both the 5 speed & 6 speed to drive
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Thanks for doing that John :goodjob: Alan is holidaying in Cyprus for a week so might not reply straight away....
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John
Thank you very much for the info.
You have confirmed my suspicion that the new 2012 i30 1.6 CRDi is higher geared than the 2011 model. This would account for the fact that my new car, although higher powered at 128PS rather than 115PS, feels less lively than my previous car (which was the same as your's). On paper the new car accelerates quicker than the previous model though.
This is how the gearing compares between your car and mine - speeds in each gear at 2000 engine rpm.
Gear 1 2 3 4 5 6
2011 model 15 30 48 67 80 95 km/h
2012 model 18 32 56 79 93 111 km/h
For gears 3 to 6 inc - the gearing of the new model is 16% higher than the previous one. It looks as though they have changed the final drive ratio to get better economy at normal driving speeds and tweaked the first and second ratio's to ensure a smooth get away.
I will do a bit more work on the project when back at home.
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On paper the new car accelerates quicker than the previous model though.
Try it on tarmac :P
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It would be nice to include the original 5 speed in that list to have all the crdi 1.6 models covered in the one post.
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It would be nice to include the original 5 speed in that list to have all the crdi 1.6 models covered in the one post.
Watch this space - I will produce a table of all the models members submit the data for when I am back home from holiday and can use a proper computer
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i've played with gear ratio's over the years, if you have high Torque motor sometimes they feel better & excellerate better with the taller gears, because they thrust car forward with the Torque and the low gears the motor revs up too quick and you need to shift quicker. hard to explain.
with fuel economy will just have to wait and see as even though motor will be at lower revs doing 111kph, the wind resistance is stronger at that speed so works like carrying a weight. but if the new car is more slippery could be a different story. would be nice to test drive one to compare. just what i find with taller diff ratio you have to change down a gear a lot more. what is the Torque output of this new motor? as i would take more Torque & just have same HP anyday. also those ps your quoting are shetland pony's :rofl: give me HP.
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It would be nice to include the original 5 speed in that list to have all the crdi 1.6 models covered in the one post.
Watch this space - I will produce a table of all the models members submit the data for when I am back home from holiday and can use a proper computer
Sorry for delay. Gremlins at work....wife broke her leg.
My figures agree with those supplied by Lakes
2011 1.6 diesel 6 speed gearbox on 205/55 x 16 tyres
2000rpm on car tacho....speeds on three GPS devices which agree with each other and indicate car speedo is only 1 mph fast
1st ......10 mph
2nd..... 18 mph
3rd..... 30 mph
4th..... 42 mph
5th..... 50 mph
6th..... 60 mph
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Sorry for delay. Gremlins at work....wife broke her leg.
:rofl: Love the way you just dismiss it - wife broke her leg. :lol:
Anyway, on to the important stuff...... :)
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Alan, I am unable to help you on this research BUT, and I have to say before I make a fool of myself here that I fully expect to be shot down in flames, BUT, since the speedo is less than reliable (mine is bout 3 MPH fast) what makes you think that the rev counter is any better ????
Not that I want to throw a damper on your excellent research, from which we all benefit me included.
Just a thought for you to factor in or disregard as is your wont.
Kind regards
Asa
Asa,
The engine revs would most likely be obtained as a result of electric impulses derived from a sensor. This info is also used by the ECU to do lots of things, (time the fuel injection etc) so unless the pulses are stuffed up by the tacho (which is an analogue display) it should be pretty accurate, more so than the speedo. :neutral:
the RPM is measured on an i30 engine with a transducer in the bellhousing,similar to the crank angle sensor. :winker: the RPM readout on my scan gauge II is very close to the reading on my tacho in the dash,but yes,the speedo isn't very accurate. :fum: all new model cars should have digital gauges. IMO. :idea:
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As I mentioned earlier - the data kindly provided by lakes and baradeur has shown that the 2012 i30 1.6 CRDi is geared 16% higher than than the previous model. Hence any minor errors with tacho accuracy are insignificant.
Although the new 128PS engine is more powerful than the previous 115PS engine - the maximum torque has remained the same. Despite this, and the taller gearing, Hyundai claim that the new car accelerates to 100 km/h slightly quicker than the previous model.
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:rofl: Love the way you just dismiss it - wife broke her leg. :lol:
Getting used to it.
She had a serious operation on her foot last December ....6 weeks no load bearing then gradual return to normal. Was due for a 'final inspection' tomorrow.
Last Thursday morning - all packed for long weekend at our son's place in Somerset - and she slipped dislocating her ankle and breaking tib and fib on the same leg whilst inspecting the rainwater butt that I had rushed to get from Aldi at 8a.m..
Six weeks no load bearing................. can't use the stairs so confined to bedroom. :fum: Now forty years ago.......... :happydance:
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Might be time to trade up, baradeur? :p :whistler:
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This table details the gearing data provided by various members for their i30 CRDi cars.
You are welcome to draw your own conclusions regarding the gearing of the various models - be they the previous model with 5 and 6 speed gear boxes and the new model with a 6 speed box.
My new model is clearly more highly geared than the previous cars - in fact the 4th and 5th gears are equal to the 5th and 6th gears of the previous model - with 6th gear being geared almost 17% higher. This probably accounts for why my new car feels less spirited than my previous model and why I am now able to achieve economy figures exceeding 60 mpg (4.7 l/100km) whereas the previous cars best was only 52 mpg (5.43 l/100 km) over the same test route which included 34% urban and 66% motorway driving.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v308/AlanHo1937/i30%20Forum/GearingComparison-1.jpg)
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Great post Alan.
The speeds in mph in first gear should be the same for my car & Nustyrutz' though. :undecided:
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And yes, I noticed your spelling, Dave...... :P
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Great post Alan.
The speeds in mph in first gear should be the same for my car & Nustyrutz' though. :undecided:
Sorry about that - now amended - I can't type accurately either............ :twisted:
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Thanks for your efforts yet again Alan :goodjob2: :goodjob:
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The i30 manual car just launched in Australia is different to the European version in two major respects.
The Korean built cars have a torsion beam rear suspension whereas the Euro cars have a more expensive multi link set up.
Gear ratios for the manual cars are also different. The Australian car is lower geared.
Here are the speeds at 2000 rpm.
1st gear. Aus car 17 kph Euro car 18 kph
2nd gear Aus car 31 kph Euro car 32 kph
3rd gear Aus car 51 kph Euro car 56 kph
4th gear Aus car 72 kph Euro car 79 kph
5th gear Aus car 86 kph Euro car 93 kph
6th gear Aus car 101 kph Euro car 111 kph
My guess is that the Australian model will feel more lively but will have a slightly worse fuel economy - it definitely has much worse emmissions presumably because it does not have a DPF.
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That is interesting from both the gearing point of view and the suspension set up.
On the website it points out that the Australian suspension tune is designed for Australian conditions.
I wonder why they went to beam rear axle? :confused:
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What is this "Australian conditions", are we on a different planet. We have roads ranging from dirt tracks to freeways with lower speed limits than Europe :exclaim:
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I agree.
I don't think that the majority of our conditions are much different from other parts of the world.
Sure, if you're in the outback it's different but that's not where i30s are going to be.
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They might have changed the diff ratio (lower geared) but surely the rear suspension is the same? Not confused with the Accent?
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They might have changed the diff ratio (lower geared) but surely the rear suspension is the same? Not confused with the Accent?
Definately different rear suspension, pip..... :)
http://www.hyundai.com.au/vehicles/i30/specification-range (http://www.hyundai.com.au/vehicles/i30/specification-range)
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Ok, it does say that but am I to believe that there are two completely different rear suspensions, each having different mounting points etc.?
Not convinced, it's one or the other and torsion beam is a step backward. :confused:
A torsion beam takes less space (so more in the cabin) and cheaper which advantages the smaller Accent better. Someone needs to look under one. :winker:
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According to the brochure, the Accent has a torsion beam rear end too.... :)
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This review also confirms the Aussie i30 has the torsion beam rear suspension.....
http://www.themotorreport.com.au/54247/2012-hyundai-i30-first-drive-road-test-review-australia (http://www.themotorreport.com.au/54247/2012-hyundai-i30-first-drive-road-test-review-australia)
I read elsewhere that all Korean built i30's have the torsion beam rear end....while the i30's built at the Czech Republic factory have the multi link rear suspension. :cool:
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So it looks like they have dumbed down the rear suspension for Aussie cars. :wacko: And that article says that the Oz suspension tuning was to soften the ride at handling expense.:undecided:
I always assumed that when the original car's tuning had been Austalianised it was to to improve the handling performance but perhaps it was the other way around. Might explain why we ended up with a significantly smaller rear sway bar than the UK and from memory those here that were less impressed with understeer and beefed the sway bar were from Oz.
I was never in line for this model but on paper they seem to have have moved away from many items on my checklist. :neutral: