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Title: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: Ugly Mongrel on May 23, 2012, 01:30:26
I notice today that the two front windows open and close at different rates, the driver's (right) mirror being a bit faster. It is particularly noticeable when opening or closing the windows without the motor running.

Has anyone else noticed this or is it just that my Lubricious is right handed? :D
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: Surferdude on May 23, 2012, 03:17:20
I notice today that the two front windows open and close at different rates, the driver's (right) mirror being a bit faster. It is particularly noticeable when opening or closing the windows without the motor running.

Has anyone else noticed this or is it just that my Lubricious is right handed? :D
It's been discussed on here before Terry. Mine is the same. It seems to be the norm.
I reckon it's because the power has to travel further from the switch on the driver's side. :happydance:
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: Ugly Mongrel on May 23, 2012, 03:21:08
Thanks Trev. I thought it might be the motor speed, as they sound different.
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: Surferdude on May 23, 2012, 03:27:27
Thanks Trev. I thought it might be the motor speed, as they sound different.
Probably is. And they do. But I reckon that's jus because one is operating at a different speed to the other.
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: Alasama on May 23, 2012, 03:40:56
Seems same situation, driver side is a little bit faster. Mine is left hand drive.  :)
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: Ugly Mongrel on May 23, 2012, 03:42:12
Probably is. And they do. But I reckon that's jus because one is operating at a different speed to the other.

I hope that little gem of information doesn't get out to Hyundai or they'll list it as a feature...

"Comes equipped with dual-speed auto windows"  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: Surferdude on May 23, 2012, 03:44:57
Probably is. And they do. But I reckon that's jus because one is operating at a different speed to the other.

I hope that little gem of information doesn't get out to Hyundai or they'll list it as a feature...

"Comes equipped with dual-speed auto windows"  :lol: :lol:
Let's send them an account - for "Marketing Consultancy Fees".
Should be good for $100,000 each.
Just need to find someone in Hyundai like Craig Thompson who doesn't check his credit card statements. :snigger: :snigger:
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: Doggie 1 on May 23, 2012, 05:05:05
Probably is. And they do. But I reckon that's jus because one is operating at a different speed to the other.

I hope that little gem of information doesn't get out to Hyundai or they'll list it as a feature...

"Comes equipped with dual-speed auto windows"  :lol: :lol:
Let's send them an account - for "Marketing Consultancy Fees".
Should be good for $100,000 each.
Just need to find someone in Hyundai like Craig Thompson who doesn't check his credit card statements. :snigger: :snigger:

He's just misunderstood  :lol: ;)
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: beerman on May 23, 2012, 06:05:22
Probably is. And they do. But I reckon that's jus because one is operating at a different speed to the other.

I hope that little gem of information doesn't get out to Hyundai or they'll list it as a feature...

"Comes equipped with dual-speed auto windows"  :lol: :lol:
Let's send them an account - for "Marketing Consultancy Fees".
Should be good for $100,000 each.
Just need to find someone in Hyundai like Craig Thompson who doesn't check his credit card statements. :snigger: :snigger:

He's just misunderstood  :lol: ;)

Not by the hookers he paid..... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: Doggie 1 on May 23, 2012, 07:43:46
But he said he didn't do it and he's a politician so wouldn't it be true?  :whistler:
Apologies for the  :offtopic:
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: Shambles on May 23, 2012, 08:00:34
My [drivers] side is ever so slow... the slowest (by far) of the four  :undecided:

Some day I'll get round to cleaning the inside of the glass - it's proper tacky  :fum:
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: Phil №❶ on May 23, 2012, 08:36:34
As is the case with all cars, the wiring looms are made to a price. As long as the window functions, then it's considered ok. Doesn't mean it couldn't be better with a bit more copper in the wire. This is often a significant problem for car headlights too. Pay a lot of attention to all electrical connections where moisture is present. Water just loves to capilliate up the ends of exposed wiring, for considerable distances. You will end up with brittle, green copper oxide and very high resistance.  :fum:
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: AlanHo on May 23, 2012, 11:57:56
I just checked the front windows on my new i30.

They both open at exactly the same speed but the drivers window (RHS) is a smidgen faster at closing than the passenger one. Too close to time but just perceptible.

With the engine off they open in 2.3 seconds - and close in 3.3 seconds.

With the engine on they open in 1.9 seconds - and close in 2.4 seconds.
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: Phil №❶ on May 23, 2012, 12:01:19
Your wires are nice and fresh Alan  :wink:
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: Doggie 1 on May 23, 2012, 12:02:56
I just checked the front windows on my new i30.

They both open at exactly the same speed but the drivers window (RHS) is a smidgen faster at closing than the passenger one. Too close to time but just perceptible.

With the engine off they open in 2.3 seconds - and close in 3.3 seconds.

With the engine on they open in 1.9 seconds - and close in 2.4 seconds.

But what was the atmospheric pressure at the time of the test?  :whistler: :lol:
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: AlanHo on May 23, 2012, 12:23:00
But what was the atmospheric pressure at the time of the test?  :whistler: :lol:

Here you are Dave - the current values for our town.  But please bear in mind, when you are giving your full consideration to these figures, that the car has been parked for a couple of hours in full sun and is baking hot and humid inside. Also it is parked in an area sheltered from the wind by the garage doors and the side wall of the house. 
Furthermore the outside surfaces of the glass have been treated with Rain-X, hence friction losses will be minimal. You should also note that I have just had a couple of glasses of the most superb full bodied and fruity Malbec wine with some pork pie for lunch. This may have affected my reaction times when using the stopwatch feature on my phone.

Air Temperature 19 °C   

Dew Point 10 °C
     
Humidity 79%

Barometric Pressure 1022.43 hPa     

Wind Speed 8 km/h   

Please feel free to pose any other questions that will assist your evaluation......................... :whistler: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: Phil №❶ on May 23, 2012, 12:59:06
A noise level, perhaps  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: Ugly Mongrel on May 23, 2012, 13:53:29
Blood alcohol reading? :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: Doggie 1 on May 24, 2012, 09:56:17
Thanks Alan  :goodjob2:
That's very funny  :lol:
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: baroudeur on May 24, 2012, 13:06:39
I just checked the front windows on my new i30.

They both open at exactly the same speed but the drivers window (RHS) is a smidgen faster at closing than the passenger one. Too close to time but just perceptible.

With the engine off they open in 2.3 seconds - and close in 3.3 seconds.

With the engine on they open in 1.9 seconds - and close in 2.4 seconds.

Down times assisted by gravity!  Engine on times assisted by  higher voltage!

Are you  comparing times  by operating both windows at the same time?   .........

Definitely not recommended as the switch supply wire is not designed to carry the load of both motors at the same time..

Some car drivers' handbooks  mention this specifically.
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: onine on May 24, 2012, 13:57:24
Try lubricating the window channels with some graphite powder If they are a bit tight they will slow the window operation down
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: Pip on May 24, 2012, 16:06:02
Every time I read thread a like this I'm reminded of the ridiculous comments my wife makes as I trawl the highly intellectual discussions here: like... well I don't think I need to offer any, because you probably all know already!

But this time I'm going to ask the question myself... are we really interested in how long it takes to wind up the bloody windows?

Honestly... :confused: :wacko: :-[ :snigger: :scared:

P.S. with the greatest respect to UM. :lol:
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: Doggie 1 on May 24, 2012, 16:10:43
 :rofl: :rofl:
As long as they wind up & down, I guess that's the important thing.
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: Ugly Mongrel on May 24, 2012, 23:04:28
Every time I read thread a like this I'm reminded of the ridiculous comments my wife makes as I trawl the highly intellectual discussions here: like... well I don't think I need to offer any, because you probably all know already!

But this time I'm going to ask the question myself... are we really interested in how long it takes to wind up the bloody windows?

Honestly... :confused: :wacko: :-[ :snigger: :scared:

P.S. with the greatest respect to UM. :lol:

The purpose of my original post was to see if other members had noticed the same thing happen with their windows as I thought there may be something wrong with the left-hand motor.

If no other members had posted that they too, had notice the same thing happen, I would have then deduced that it was only occurring in my i30. If this was the case, I would have be able to confidently go to my dealer and tell them I had a problem with the left-hand motor.

Fortunately, the responses from other members has allowed me to deduce that it is a condition common across several other i30s, so therefore I do not have a problem with my left-hand motor and I will not take my car to a dealer and report a problem that would have made me look like a goose.

And that's all I've got to say about that. :whistler: :whistler:
Title: Re: Front windows operate at different speeds.
Post by: Dazzler on May 25, 2012, 11:35:37
So you had the wind up ya for a bit there Terry.. :lol:
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