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MODIFYING OR DETAILING YOUR I30 => INTERIOR => Topic started by: brodie on July 17, 2012, 08:13:44
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Hi all
In the process of going to remove crappy stock speakers in 2012 i30. Anyone have any recommendations for at all. I looking at jvc think they are 6 inch leaving stock tweeters in. I what's everyone's experience do u think they will make a difference???
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I'll be interested to watch this thread because my local car stereo shop told me not to bother because I wouldn't notice much difference with the standard radio.
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go MTX or JLaudio splits on a small amp :cool:
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kom,
Have you done this mod :question:
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I'm getting it done on the weekend. Do people reckon it will make difference or not
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I'm no expert in this field(but others will respond, I'm sure) but I would have thought it would make a difference.
I was just put off a bit by what the car stereo shop people told me then I didn't follow it up any further.
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@db08,
I can't fault the sound of the original speakers, which is why I won't be changing them, however, the younger dudes, seem to like massive volume with external amps, so under those conditions, better speakers would be required.
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It's not something that worries me greatly and in most situations they're fine for what I use them for.
But if turned up loud they do lack a bit and if there was an easy, cost-effective way to improve the sound say, by 50%, I would have done it.
I'm probably showing my age now because there are probably much better options available that I'm not aware of, but I always liked Pioneer gear over the years so my idea was to upgrade all the speakers with mid-range (quality) Pioneers, but I was told not to bother.
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I miss having speakers in the rear deck and using the "boot" as a speaker box.... :)
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hahaha - look the stock ones are ok, but are not great at all...they miss that punch us "young dudes" like.
They suggested a sub, but i was thinking they were just wanting more $$ spent...
i just loved my VW golf for that reason (yes that reason only..) that the stock speakers in that were kILLERS!! and had amazing sound...would defo like to hear some peoples opinions though who have had this done.!
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If you are going to do it Brodie I would go something better than JVC :confused: (I thought they were only a middle of the range brand?) Maybe Alpine, Kenwood or JBL? why not audition a few at places like Autobarn and see what you like the sound of?
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With my hearing and the intrusion of outside noise I really can't be bothered trying to improve on th estock system.
However, the best sound in a "stock" system I have ever heard is in my son's Mazda 6 Sports which has the Bose speakers and (IIRC) the sub woofer in the spare wheel.
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It surprises me that they would say that, as most say that changing the speakers is the best and most cost effective way to improve sound.
I have been thinking about it, the rear speakers seem to distort and do not handle AM very well. Hence I have had to move the bias back to the front.
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It surprises me that they would say that, as most say that changing the speakers is the best and most cost effective way to improve sound.
:whsaid:
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From what I have heard, if you are going for something like a low-mid range consumer based speakers you probably wouldn't hear much difference. You need to look at your budget, look at speakers and then increase your budget while looking at amps :P When I was researching I used mobile electronics and their reviews.
First up as recommended by FHRX studios, I deaden my doors and used the sharkracing kit in my '07 i30 (not sure if there is a kit yet for the 2012 i30) as it was cheap-ish compared to Dynamat and just the extra material seems to have decreased road noise, decreased vibrations and seems to add a bit more mid bass on the stock speakers. After that I installed Morel Tempo components with silk dome tweeters in the front with carpeted MDF baffles attached direct to the door and these are currently unamped as they are quite sensitive (and I didn't find an amp I liked). After a few weeks of burn in, I have compared my front stage morels to the rear stock speakers and there is a MASSIVE difference. Alot more clarity (these are aimed at better representation of sound as the artist intended compared to colored sound like most 'known' brands), the highs and mids are alot more smooth, there is alot more clean midbass but as expected, they aren't as loud as the stock speakers and at very high volumes (25+) they distort as they are unamped. Currently I have my eyes on a Pioneer competition PRS-D800 to amp my speakers and will be adding that in later and possible disconnect my rears and just bridge them for my sub as I currently bias my speakers to the front and use the rears mostly for my sub.
I don't know your budget but I allocated <$250 for speakers and I luckily picked up my Morel Tempos for $220. Other speakers I would recommend around that budget were the Crescendo Opus 1 and then after that Morel Maximos. Polk Audio make some decent speakers but I am unsure where they stand. Also, your style of music also will determine your speakers and whether just adding a sub will make any difference. Each person will recommend different brands and the only real way is to demo speakers and see whether you like them or not :)
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It surprises me that they would say that, as most say that changing the speakers is the best and most cost effective way to improve sound.
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Especially as it meant a sale + installation for them.
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As I mentioned before I also got told this about the speakers in my Hybrid by a crowd in Hobart... :confused:
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Especially as it meant a sale + installation for them.
He was probably hoping to sell you a new head unit and amp as well as new speakers... :whistler:
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the HU in the new i30 is the 7inch nav unit.. i dont think many people know much of it yet, i dont know how it handles with anything but stock speakers.
i pulled off the trim thisevening, and its basically the same as stock setup for previous gen i30, with paper type speakers...
the set im looking at
are a 6 in JVC model, around $79 a pair... from what iv seen reviews seem good...??
here is inside door pic
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and speaker itself
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Still think $79 JVC's are not worth the upgrade .. You would want to be spending a minimum of $200 a pair.. Do the listening test with them and other dearer ones at some car audio shops :cool:
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thanks for the advice.. ill check it out.
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Still think $79 JVC's are not worth the upgrade .. You would want to be spending a minimum of $200 a pair.. Do the listening test with them and other dearer ones at some car audio shops :cool:
I agree with Dazzler, I changed the speakers in the front of my old Seat Ibiza with an £60 pair of Pioneer composites and to be honest they were worse than the standard fit Kenwood ones they replaced.
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Update: so, i ended up going all the way, 4 new speakers and a lovely 10inch sub in the boot. Sounds AMAZINGLY good. I must say, turning the sub off/down, the speakers just don't go well on there own, the sub defiantly compliments them nicely to bring the whole package together!! :)
first and LAST mod im doing!
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What sort / brand of speaker did you get brodie? and did you spend a bit more? :razz:
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Update: so, i ended up going all the way, 4 new speakers and a lovely 10inch sub in the boot. Sounds AMAZINGLY good. I must say, turning the sub off/down, the speakers just don't go well on there own, the sub defiantly compliments them nicely to bring the whole package together!! :)
first and LAST mod im doing!
Does that sub annoy other road users when stopped at traffic lights? :D :lol:
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i ended up going the JVC, they were $79 a pair, x 2, (they sound alot better then the stock) and the sub was a Fusion 10' tube with built in amp...its pumpin, problem is, i dont really have any doof doof music haha- *hmmm delta goodrem doesnt really shine through my speakers...* ha - laugh it up
speakers -->> http://www.jvc.com.au/car-av/speakers/drvn-speakers/cs-v627 (http://www.jvc.com.au/car-av/speakers/drvn-speakers/cs-v627)
sub/amp -->> http://www.fusionelectronics.com/car/products/active-enclosures-cs-series/cs-10-Active-Tube-Enclosure (http://www.fusionelectronics.com/car/products/active-enclosures-cs-series/cs-10-Active-Tube-Enclosure)
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No but she could park her shoes under my bed. :lol:
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ehhhhh straight males, i tell u. lol
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@brodie, you were born to try :mrgreen:
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The JVC speakers are higher tech than I expected. They must be good they are Hybrid :whistler:
The Woofer is a lot more compact than some :goodjob:
Glad you got a result you are happy with :cool:
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The Woofer is a lot more compact than some :goodjob:
So is mine.
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The Woofer is a lot more compact than some :goodjob:
So is mine.
Chihuahua? :p
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The Woofer is a lot more compact than some :goodjob:
So is mine.
Chihuahua? :p
No, sausage dog.
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woof lol
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i ended up going the JVC, they were $79 a pair, x 2, (they sound alot better then the stock) and the sub was a Fusion 10' tube with built in amp...its pumpin, problem is, i dont really have any doof doof music haha- *hmmm delta goodrem doesnt really shine through my speakers...* ha - laugh it up
speakers -->> http://www.jvc.com.au/car-av/speakers/drvn-speakers/cs-v627 (http://www.jvc.com.au/car-av/speakers/drvn-speakers/cs-v627)
sub/amp -->> http://www.fusionelectronics.com/car/products/active-enclosures-cs-series/cs-10-Active-Tube-Enclosure (http://www.fusionelectronics.com/car/products/active-enclosures-cs-series/cs-10-Active-Tube-Enclosure)
How did you secure the sub in the boot? I'm very interested in your setup and might go down the same path :) Did you do the install yourself (or can recommend anyone that does them?) I'm guessing the rivets had to be drilled too?
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I am also looking for speaker replacement.
For those who have done it, is it a big job?
And does the door panel have to be removed in order to replace them?
REGARDS
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the HU in the new i30 is the 7inch nav unit.. i dont think many people know much of it yet, i dont know how it handles with anything but stock speakers.
i pulled off the trim thisevening, and its basically the same as stock setup for previous gen i30, with paper type speakers...
the set im looking at
are a 6 in JVC model, around $79 a pair... from what iv seen reviews seem good...??
lets remember again a little bit this subject,is that a tweeter or my eyes imagine that?
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/849/imag0009vs.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/849/imag0009vs.jpg/)
I can also see a Very good insulation in the door,good quality well done hyundai :goodjob:
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I much prefer good quality sound rather than just high volume. The speakers in the 2012 i30 are high quality and fill the cabin with enough undistorted volume to satisfy my needs - even though I wear hearing aids to amplify the higher frequencies. My wife is a music lover with excellent hearing and always plays music in the car. She claims the sound quality is the equal of our Bose surround sound hi-fi in the lounge.
My hearing loss is probably because of industrial noise exposure and one of my grand daughters has profound hearing loss as a result of working in a club where the volume of the music rattles your teeth. She is 28 and now has to use hearing aids when not at work. I have no doubt at all that many thousands of today's youth in later life are going to regret filling their cars with big amplifiers and speakers. Once you damage the sensitive bits of your ears - and it is easier to do than most people recognise - there is no going back.
Welcome to the deaf world where tinnitus and muffled sound reins supreme.
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And the first signs are not being able to hear singular conversations in a noisy location.
I certainly have that issue. Someone can be standing right in front of me, talking to me, but if there is a lot of background noise I have difficulty hearing them. :(
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And the first signs are not being able to hear singular conversations in a noisy location.
I certainly have that issue. Someone can be standing right in front of me, talking to me, but if there is a lot of background noise I have difficulty hearing them. :(
Hear, hear!!!!!.............. :whsaid:
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And the first signs are not being able to hear singular conversations in a noisy location.
I certainly have that issue. Someone can be standing right in front of me, talking to me, but if there is a lot of background noise I have difficulty hearing them. :(
Hmmm, I feel old now. I have just the same problems as you, and I'm only 40.... :scared:
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And the first signs are not being able to hear singular conversations in a noisy location.
I certainly have that issue. Someone can be standing right in front of me, talking to me, but if there is a lot of background noise I have difficulty hearing them. :(
Hmmm, I feel old now. I have just the same problems as you, and I'm only 40.... :scared:
I have the same problems as Dave and I am only 56 ! :winker:
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I have the same problems as Dave and I'm only 54. :lol:
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I have the same problems as Dave and I'm only 57..............but I also have dyslexia. :whistler:
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I think you're all stalking me.... :scared: :sweating:
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the HU in the new i30 is the 7inch nav unit.. i dont think many people know much of it yet, i dont know how it handles with anything but stock speakers.
i pulled off the trim thisevening, and its basically the same as stock setup for previous gen i30, with paper type speakers...
the set im looking at
are a 6 in JVC model, around $79 a pair... from what iv seen reviews seem good...??
here is inside door pic
(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5542/imag0009v.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/imag0009v.jpg/)
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and speaker itself
(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/6106/imag0006tf.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/835/imag0006tf.jpg/)
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Hey mate
Great post, very informative! I'm looking at upgrading the speakers in my 2011 i30 SR Hatch, but I'm a bit intimidated at the door trim removal and subsequent refit.
Are they difficult to remove and refit? Did you or will you upgrade the speakers in your car? If so, what with?
I'm very curious to learn more about the possibilities here, but I'm a little nervous too!
I appreciate your time!
Rgd's
Andrew
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Brodie hasn't been on for 2 weeks but hopefully he will see your post Tim :cool:
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Hi Andrew
Here's a photoguide on how to remove the front door cards. Backdoors should be same procedure.
https://i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=570.msg4428#msg4428 (https://i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=570.msg4428#msg4428)
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Thank you so much! I appreciate your time a great deal!
Take care...
Rgd's
Andrew
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So, after first reading this post I decided I wanted to upgrade my stereo too..
I originally wanted a small amp and a 10 inch sub, and some nice speakers for the front... but then I got carried away..
I ended up installing Dynamat Xtreme inside all four doors on the inside of the outer panels and also behind the door skins, in the boot lid same deal, and through the wheel well, up the sides of the boot etc. I also installed Dynaxorb pads behind the factory speakers to stop sound reverberation. This took at least a box of ciders and a week (after work and all of Saturday) to complete.
Just by doing that, the factory speakers all of a sudden had loads more mid bass and were louder and clearer than before. Probably also due to the fact that the Dynamat cut out quite a bit of road noise. I used to be able to clearly hear the reverse camera operating but it's now all but silent.
Then I had fitted:
A 160watt x4 RMS @2ohm (90watt RMS @4ohm) amp,
A 1550watt x1 RMS Mono block subwoofer amp,
2 x 500watt RMS (1000watt peak) 12 inch subwoofers,and an Audison Bit ten D, digital signal processor..
For the time being, I have just amplified the factory 20watt RMS speakers. I had the system tuned by FHRX Studio's here in Sydney and even with the factory speakers, the sound quality is AMAZING! Theres a stack more mid bass now that the speakers are amplified and no distortion (unless you get carried away with the volume), as the gains on the 4 channel amp are set quite low and the signal processor is sending all the bass below 100hz to the subwoofers instead of through the factory speakers.
The sat nav unit has all the equaliser functions turned off (bass, mid, treble set to zero) in order to send a pure, un altered signal to the processor, which then feeds the amps their signal.
To tune the system, FHRX studios plugged their laptop up to the audison processor via a usb and played a cd that sounded like a bunch of hissing to me.
They then closed the car up with a special microphone mounted at the height of the drivers ears, and used a meter outside of the car that showed you which frequencies were louder and which were quieter. They adjusted them accordingly with the 31 band eq on the laptop until the sound in the car was perfect at all frequencies.
Finally, they set up the signal delays for several different listening positions. Because the subs are at the back of the car, it takes milliseconds longer for the sound to reach your ears than the front speakers, and it takes slightly longer for sound from the passengers speaker to reach your ears than the sound from the drivers speaker. Same deal with the rear speakers. The way they have adjusted the delays on each individual speaker makes it sound like you're sitting directly in front of a stage, and in the drivers seat the sound comes from directly in front of you. In the passengers seat however, its as if the sound is coming from out the passengers window. Not to worry, they set another mode for when I have other people in the car too.
After hearing the factory speakers properly tuned, it may be a better idea to spend your money on a signal processor and an amp than new speakers. For anyone who lives in Sydney, you're welcome to have a listen, you'll see what I mean. :)
There's a remote for the processor mounted below the stereo which allows you to adjust most main points of the system including sub volume and change the listening position etc.
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If you carry all that around in the car, what do you have at home :faint:
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If you carry all that around in the car, what do you have at home :faint:
A system that got me a not so nice letter from the council a few weeks back. Still trying to figure out which neighbour it could have been :)
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Thought so. :snigger:
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Wow, that's amazing. :goodjob2:
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Ross, be nice to see some bigger pix hosted via photobucket or similar (please) tutorial in welcome section (attachments are easy lost if the site crashes) :cool: