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OFF TOPIC => WORLD NEWS => Motoring => Topic started by: Doggie 1 on July 26, 2012, 09:02:32
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Does this seem suspiciously cheap to you or am I missing something obvious?
New car, diesel auto, Elite not Active, new not a demo, $33990 on road, drive away?
Do you think they have made a mistake?
http://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/details/hyundai-i40-2012 (http://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/details/hyundai-i40-2012-12989782?base=1216&vertical=Car&Range=Price:Min,Max~1&eapi=2&sort=default&cr=5&__N=1246%201247%201252%201282%204294965579%204294682676%201216&silo=Stock&find=sedan)
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I'll toss you for it.. Has to be a mistake (It is the same car as I sat in at the Launceston showroom) that had something like $44,880 on the window :disapp:
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I agree.
I've sent an inquiry off on it so will see what they say. :)
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Well that was quick!
I just received a call from the Hyundai dealership and yes, Carsales have made a mistake.
It's $33990 drive away for an Active i40 diesel sedan and $38990 for an Elite i40 diesel drive away.
So still cheaper than Tassie Dazz but an extra five grand over and above what was advertised.
I'm going to go in on Monday morning and have a chat to see what they can do.
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That's a big difference between Tassie and WA .. I will definitely be shopping around when the time comes ...
I just love it in Silver :DoubleKiss:
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That's a big difference between Tassie and WA .. I will definitely be shopping around when the time comes ...
I just love it in Silver :DoubleKiss:
I guess they have a "captive" market in Tasmania.
But even with transportation costs, it would be beneficial to shop interstate when the time comes although it might make servicing a bit diffcult.
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Something is still suss with those WA prices... Look at this (Queensland)
http://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/details/hyundai-i40-2012-130 (http://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/details/hyundai-i40-2012-13067278?base=1216&vertical=Car&cr=0&eapi=2&__N=4294739883%204294966697+1246+1247+1252+1282+4294965579+4294682676+1216&num=15&silo=Stock&sort=default)
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Something is still suss with those WA prices... Look at this (Queensland)
http://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/details/hyundai-i40-2012-130 (http://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/details/hyundai-i40-2012-13067278?base=1216&vertical=Car&cr=0&eapi=2&__N=4294739883%204294966697+1246+1247+1252+1282+4294965579+4294682676+1216&num=15&silo=Stock&sort=default)
I blame the carbon tax. :happydance:
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Something is still suss with those WA prices... Look at this (Queensland)
http://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/details/hyundai-i40-2012-130 (http://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/details/hyundai-i40-2012-13067278?base=1216&vertical=Car&cr=0&eapi=2&__N=4294739883%204294966697+1246+1247+1252+1282+4294965579+4294682676+1216&num=15&silo=Stock&sort=default)
I blame the carbon tax. :happydance:
Stirrer.
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They wouldn't know what day it is. Still advertising this car with VVT :exclaim: :fum:
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Something is still suss with those WA prices... Look at this (Queensland)
http://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/details/hyundai-i40-2012-130 (http://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/details/hyundai-i40-2012-13067278?base=1216&vertical=Car&cr=0&eapi=2&__N=4294739883%204294966697+1246+1247+1252+1282+4294965579+4294682676+1216&num=15&silo=Stock&sort=default)
They've amended the WA one and here it is.
Same photo as the Qld one, same car, same spec - $38990 drive away which is what I was told yesterday.
http://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/details/hyundai-i40-2012-12989782 (http://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/details/hyundai-i40-2012-12989782?base=1216&vertical=Car&Range=Price:Min,Max~1&eapi=2&sort=default&cr=8&__N=1246%201247%201252%201282%204294965579%204294682676%201216&silo=Stock&find=sedan)
Or this one at $37990 drive away:
http://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/details/hyundai-i40-2012-13038183?base=1216&vertical=Car&Range=Price:Min,Max~1&Page=2&eapi=2&sort=default&cr=15&__N=1246%201247%201252%201282%204294965579%204294682676%201216&silo=Stock&find=sedan (http://www.carsales.com.au/bncis/details/hyundai-i40-2012-13038183?base=1216&vertical=Car&Range=Price:Min,Max~1&Page=2&eapi=2&sort=default&cr=15&__N=1246%201247%201252%201282%204294965579%204294682676%201216&silo=Stock&find=sedan)|CarAll
$43990 drive away in WA is buying an i40 Premium diesel sedan.
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Jeez it sure pays to shop around in Oz :eek:
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There are some good buys around. This Active Tourer diesel manual is $31990 drive away in NSW:
Key Details
Wagon 0 km
6 speed Manual 4.7L / 100km
Diesel 5 doors 5 seat
4 cylinder Diesel Intercooled Turbo
Comments
I40 CRDI READY FOR QUICK DELIVERY
PICK ONE UP TODAY WITH THIS GREAT OFFER, EXCLUDES 3.9% FINANCE OFFER
8YR WARRANTY
7YR ROAD SIDE (NRMA)
HONEST AND PROFESSIONAL SALES STAFF 7DAYS A WEEK READY TO DEAL WITH YOU ON YOUR TERMS
Or a black one in NSW a bit cheaper at $31888 drive away.:
Key Details
Wagon 10 km
6 speed Manual 4.7L / 100km
Diesel 5 doors 5 seat
4 cylinder Diesel Intercooled Turbo
Comments
Diesel model ready for immediate delivery, comes with electric park brakes, 9 airbags, power everything, sporty wagon and diesel performance. Contact us to arrange a test drive today.
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I'm getting a semi thinking about it.. :mrgreen:
Maybe I should re-word that.. I'm thinking of getting a semi so I can pick one of those up and bring it back to Tassie :whistler:
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I'm getting a semi thinking about it.. :mrgreen:
Maybe I should re-word that.. I'm thinking of getting a semi so I can pick one of those up and bring it back to Tassie :whistler:
:rofl: Mate, drive it back. Five grand is five grand and it more than pays for the holiday plus you get to see the greatest state again. :D
It would be just nicely run-in by the time you got home and it would be giving you great economy.
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Thought about that but would be worried about hitting a roo in our Trade-in on the way over (or even worse) one on the way back in the new car..
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Life is a gamble. :D
You'd be ok if you only travelled in daylight.
Is the Indian-Pacific expensive?
That would be a nice trip to do with your trade-in then there would be no risk and you could have a leisurely drive home again.
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I think I would get bored $hitless driving across the Nullabor the other bits would be great though.. :goodjob:
We might be doing a Melbourne to Mount Gambier run like Kittikat did (but via the great ocean road on the outward journey) in October.. Still in early stages of planning :winker:
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I'm still waiting for my Jag to be ready so I can drive back and will probably do the GOR too.
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Because my Dad'd health is starting to fail he might be moving to the Kingscliff area to be closer to us (the three sons)
He is keen tho keep the XK8 so the plan is (if he moves) for my eldest Brother Richard to fly over and drive the XK8 with Dad as a passenger from Perth to Kingscliff (in NSW) :mrgreen:
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Now that will be a nice trip. :)
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I went into the dealership today with the black MC Accent as a starting point, with a view to taking the i30 in later this week.
Trading on a new i30 (diesel Elite or Premium) they offered $3000 for the Accent and said that subject to seeing my i30 (they have seen photos), they'd be struggling to get to double figures ($10,000) for two reasons:
(1) 133,000 kms.
(2) Manual transmission - because most demand is for automatics :undecided: :rolleyes:
They're not even trying.
Interesting that they have an identical (other than colour) MC Accent in their used car lot at $8990.
The way this is going, I can see some mods to an FD coming up because they're not getting it at that price in a fit.
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Yes, it's amazing how little your car is worth until it comes time for THEM to sell it... :lol:
When I traded my old EB Foulcan for the i30 they offered me $500 and when I said it had a gas conversion worth $2300 which was only installed 12 months earlier, they replied it didn't matter as no-one wants LPG powered cars... :rofl:
They then pointed at the front tyres saying they were scrubbing so they'd have to replace them......Didn't matter that the tyres had less than 20,000k on them and the only "scrubbing" was a fine line on the edge from turning at full lock into their car park..... :whistler:
Funny enough I felt no guilt whatsoever for not informing them that the catalytic convertor was rooted and I had been unable to use much throttle on the drive over.... :D
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Rusty, I presume that was the dealer you bought your Hyundai from. They've probably made a note on your vehicle profile to get the money back somehow :D
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Rusty, I presume that was the dealer you bought your Hyundai from. They've probably made a note on your vehicle profile to get the money back somehow :D
That's ok, Phil...I get my i30 serviced at a different dealer.... :D
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Revenge is sweet. :D
I accept that trade-in prices have to be low enough to allow them to make a profit and they have to provide statutory warranties on used cars, pay wages, business operating costs, etc.
But, to offer one third of what they will retail it for is stretching it a bit.
Two thirds I could understand.
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Both my last Hyundai trade-ins have been £1000 less than the price put on the screen for re-sale, but given I took £800 of the screen price of my i40 I don't think that I did too badly there.
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Some inside information on my short time in the game (selling cars + having a family with a car dealership)
How they seem to work down here with a car worth say 8k or more retail is allow say $3000 margin + anything that requires fixing so say another $300 off if they have to put 6 months rego on, another $200 off for replacing a couple of unsafe tyres... so if they think the best they will sell it for is 8K they will start at 5K less $300 less $200 less so much for this and that .. Next thing you know you're down to 4K or even 3K as a trade...
The other thing to be careful of is sharing the reasons why you are trading your old car in (when they test drive your trade in or if they come with you when you are testing the one you are going to buy ...)
If you say this is a lot quieter than mine ... or I'm looking for something more economical a good salesman will try and play mind games with you if you decide not to proceed :whistler:
But you said your existing car is noisy and uses lots of fuel... :P
As Brian is suggesting it is the changeover that matters.. Not what they offer as a trade in..
Maybe try a "broker" Dave .. you don't have to proceed if they can't come up with a deal you are happy with... :undecided:
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I know it's a hassle but it's probably worth your while to sell it privately, Dave.... :undecided:
As for brokers, I tried one when I was shopping around for my i30 and they couldn't do as good a deal as I eventually got through a dealer myself and they too only offered $500 for my trade....
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I have contacted a broker (a large, well known one) and they wanted me to bring my best price to them and then they would conduct a reverse auction and guarantee to beat my best price by at least $500.
But that to me negates the reason you'd go to a broker because I had to do all the running around, negotiating, playing one dealer off against another, etc to get my best price to take to the broker. :confused:
Didn't seem worth the effort to me.
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I have contacted a broker (a large, well known one) and they wanted me to bring my best price to them and then they would conduct a reverse auction and guarantee to beat my best price by at least $500.
But that to me negates the reason you'd go to a broker because I had to do all the running around, negotiating, playing one dealer off against another, etc to get my best price to take to the broker. :confused:
Didn't seem worth the effort to me.
Agreed. It seems to me, if you did all that, then went to one of the dealers and said if they went $500 under the best price, they'd do a deal.
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I have contacted a broker (a large, well known one) and they wanted me to bring my best price to them and then they would conduct a reverse auction and guarantee to beat my best price by at least $500.
But that to me negates the reason you'd go to a broker because I had to do all the running around, negotiating, playing one dealer off against another, etc to get my best price to take to the broker. :confused:
Didn't seem worth the effort to me.
Agreed. It seems to me, if you did all that, then went to one of the dealers and said if they went $500 under the best price, they'd do a deal.
:whsaid:
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I just put the trade in price down to the cost of doing business. I keep my cars for a long time, the last one which I tried to trade was 30 years old, they offered me $0.00 and a free tow to the wreckers. If a new car is popular in the market, the dealership know this and don't care weather you buy or not. Expect to be offered SFA for your trade in IMO.
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Never trade,
Screw them for a cash only price, and then sell privately. It makes getting deals easy, because you can get your best price from anywhere, and start on the phone (mate I'm not even going bother driving to see you unless you can beat $33k). Gets the negotiation going in reverse they are trying to talk you up, rather than the traditional you trying to beat them down. Someone will bite, if they don't know to move the price up a bit.
Union shopper is good for this. get your best price, lower it by a couple of grand, then watch them beat it and smile all the way to the bank.
That way you win twice, you get the extra money they would spend selling your car at auction, and you get more for your car.
Takes a little bit of effort, but I find if your car is in good nick, and your reasonable about price (and kick those who seek to bend you over to the kerb) you'll move the car fairly quickly.
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@beerman, Probably good advice for everyone but me, I can't be bothered selling privately. I don't like randoms coming to my door asking fool questions and trying to beat me down.
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@beerman, Probably good advice for everyone but me, I can't be bothered selling privately. I don't like randoms coming to my door asking fool questions and trying to beat me down.
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It is quite hard to sell a dearer car privately in Tassie (say 15 to 20K or more) People seem really wary of private sellers down here unless they know you..
I have been in the sales game for a long time but still don't enjoy trying to sell our cars privately ...Plus a lot of people need the money from the car they are getting rid of to help with the cost of the new one and if it takes a while to sell it they don't want to wait to get the new car (The Dealers play on this very Human trait) :fum:
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And there are no statutory warranties privately and that scares people off in droves. :fum:
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There's no warranty on older cars bought through a dealer either... :undecided:
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I thought there was if it is over $4k in SA :neutral:
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There's no warranty on older cars bought through a dealer either... :undecided:
That is the crazy thing.. for some reason people will still pay considerably more from a dealer than from a private sale :disapp:
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I thought there was if it is over $4k in SA :neutral:
In SA I think there's a warranty of sorts if the purchase price is over $3000, I could be wrong about that though... :undecided:
I do know that in Victoria there's only a warranty if the car is under 10 years old and has less than 160,000k's on the clock....
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And there are no statutory warranties privately and that scares people off in droves. :fum:
Not a problem an RACQ check can't fix, and the money you save can buy some fairly expensive repairs. If you look at the warranties and what they cover, and the dodgy repairs used car dealers will do to get you just beyond the warranty period, cant see the issue.