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GOT PROBLEMS OR ISSUES? => DIESEL => Topic started by: Pikapolonica on August 19, 2012, 06:40:40

Title: Flooded engine?
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 19, 2012, 06:40:40
Drove my car yesterday without issues, today damn thing doesn't want to start.  Had RACV come out and check things and he seems to think that the engine is flooded.  How?  Who knows why.

And I'm not out of fuel...still have half a tank left.

Luckily I'm still under warranty, so tomorrow morning I need to call Hyundai and see if they can get me in, then call RACV to get them to tow my car to the dealership.

Anyone else encounter this problem?

It should be fixed under warranty, right?  I don't need a huge expense like this now.
Title: Re: Flooded engine
Post by: asathorny on August 19, 2012, 08:10:37
I thought that flooding was more pertinant to PETROL engines.... 

Good luck
Title: Re: Flooded engine
Post by: Phil №❶ on August 19, 2012, 08:27:13
Never heard of that in fuel injected vehicle. How was "flooding" determined as the cause  :question:

I would be more inclined to think that no glow plugs are working, therefore no start and the presence of fuel.
Title: Re: Flooded engine
Post by: 2i30s on August 19, 2012, 08:32:25
good point Asa.  :goodjob2: :goodjob:  but if the glow plugs aren't working it will flood as you turn the engine over to start it. the fuel pump on a diesel only turn over delivering fuel while the engine is turning over unlike a petrol engine that uses an electric fuel pump.  :winker: comaterpillar may have an idea,hes a diesel mechanic.  :goodjob2: :goodjob:
Title: Re: Flooded engine
Post by: Doggie 1 on August 19, 2012, 08:32:40
If it was flooded and left a while, it would start.
Unless it looks like this, then he might be right.

(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz244/WAPOL5666/car-in-river1.jpg)

As you say, it's under water warranty so should all be good.
Title: Re: Flooded engine
Post by: 2i30s on August 19, 2012, 08:34:00
If it was flooded and left a while, it would start.
Unless it looks like this, then he might bee right.

(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz244/WAPOL5666/car-in-river1.jpg)

As you say, it's under warranty so should all be good.
its under water Dave.  :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Flooded engine
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 19, 2012, 08:35:49
Left the car for 2 hours and still nothing, plus the battery is now dead due to constantly trying to turn the engine over.

Yeah, RACV mentioned something about glow plugs, how the whole thing has to be dismantled, drained, dried and replaced.
Title: Re: Flooded engine
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 19, 2012, 08:36:21
If it was flooded and left a while, it would start.
Unless it looks like this, then he might bee right.

(http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz244/WAPOL5666/car-in-river1.jpg)

As you say, it's under warranty so should all be good.
its under water Dave.  :rofl: :rofl:

Ha ha very funny  :D
Title: Re: Flooded engine
Post by: Dazzler on August 19, 2012, 08:37:59
Whatever the problem is sounds like a pain (Hope it gets sorted quickly)  :confused:
Title: Re: Flooded engine
Post by: 2i30s on August 19, 2012, 08:39:17
I'm thinking a blown glow plug fuse/relay.
Title: Re: Flooded engine
Post by: Phil №❶ on August 19, 2012, 08:40:43
me 2
Title: Re: Flooded engine
Post by: 2i30s on August 19, 2012, 08:53:28
you should be able to replace the fuse/relay and just start it up. its going too blow a massive amount of smoke for a minute or two.   :twisted:  if it was heavily flooded the engine would hydraulic lock due too the large amount of diesel in the bores. IMO.  :idea:
Title: Re: Flooded engine
Post by: eye30 on August 19, 2012, 12:57:25
Fuel filter, clogged/water ..... has this been ruled out?
Title: Re: Flooded engine
Post by: Phil №❶ on August 19, 2012, 13:10:27
Fuel filter, clogged/water ..... has this been ruled out?

re water, that should indicate on the dash.

re hydraulicing, a very real possibility, avoid at all costs. Do not crank the engine any more. Let the workshop handle it from  here.
Title: Re: Flooded engine
Post by: Shambles on August 19, 2012, 13:19:27
Try depressing the clutch.


Ah well, long shot...
Title: Re: Flooded engine
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 20, 2012, 00:00:35
I called Hyundai first thing this morning and explained the situation.  Said he can't guarantee that it would be looked at today due to a full workshop.  Already told him I'm missing a day of work due to this (I'm not though, as I work from home) and also there are no loan cars available.

Called for a tow truck to take it to Hyundai and he was here within half an hour of calling.

I'm just hoping this isn't going to cost me an arm and a leg.
Title: Re: Flooded engine
Post by: Phil №❶ on August 20, 2012, 00:04:51
That's all a bit sad, on a Monday too. Hope your day gets better  :neutral:
Title: Re: Flooded engine
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 20, 2012, 00:27:06
This is the first major problem I've had with my car :(
Title: Re: Flooded engine
Post by: Dazzler on August 20, 2012, 00:50:14
That is not very good service is there another dealer nearby.. I woud be tempted to fire off an email to Hyundai Head office.  :undecided:
Title: Re: Flooded engine
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 20, 2012, 01:41:51
Nope, only one in Geelong.  Werribee is up the highway but is even more of an inconvenience.
Title: Re: Flooded engine
Post by: Phil №❶ on August 20, 2012, 01:57:10
Don't we get roadside assist :question:
Title: Re: Flooded engine
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 20, 2012, 02:17:32
Only 20km towing in my cover.
Title: Re: Flooded engine?
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 20, 2012, 07:21:24
So Hyundai just called to inform me that my car has been fixed.  The engine was not flooded.  The cause was a rat had chewed through the cam position sensor.

Who'd have thunk?

$108.
Title: Re: Flooded engine?
Post by: beerman on August 20, 2012, 08:09:51
Bloody Rat....

$108 seems very reasonable for Hyundai.

Should consider yourself very lucky.
Title: Re: Flooded engine?
Post by: asathorny on August 20, 2012, 08:17:38
Glad ya go it fixed.  I wonder how they knew it was a rat...  was it still there (dead) ???   :Shocked:
Title: Re: Flooded engine?
Post by: Shambles on August 20, 2012, 08:41:52
Ask for the rat back, or what's left of it.

Rat stew could offset some of that $108 ;)
Title: Re: Flooded engine?
Post by: Doggie 1 on August 20, 2012, 08:49:24
I smell a rat  :D
It probably left a calling card or two.
Title: Re: Flooded engine?
Post by: Phil №❶ on August 20, 2012, 09:30:47
Doesn't the Hy warranty include rat attack ?
Title: Re: Flooded engine?
Post by: Doggie 1 on August 20, 2012, 09:34:44
A rat attack tatt.
A rat attack tatt.
Vaguely reminds me of a song I think..?  :undecided:
Title: Re: Flooded engine?
Post by: Shambles on August 20, 2012, 09:40:02
A rat attack tatt.
A rat attack tatt.
Vaguely reminds me of a song I think..?  :undecided:
Only if it's in your kitchen :P
Title: Re: Flooded engine?
Post by: Phil №❶ on August 20, 2012, 09:43:53
Sing it to me  :D
Title: Re: Flooded engine?
Post by: eye30 on August 20, 2012, 11:23:52
The cause was a rat had chewed through the cam position sensor.


At least a result but $108 lighter.

Well the CAT on your car wasn't looking out for you
or
So what was the CAT doing while the mice was playing   :lol:
Title: Re: Flooded engine?
Post by: Dazzler on August 20, 2012, 13:54:29
Glad it was an easy fix .. quick, get some ratsack or traps before he does it again.... :undecided:
Title: Re: Flooded engine?
Post by: bumpkin on August 20, 2012, 13:59:39
Phew, glad its fixed, but your problem reminded me of a colleagues wife earlier this year.

Brand new (well 2 week old by the time it happened) Skoda Fabia.

Off she went to work, straight off at a corner and wrote the car off.

Investigations revealed that mice had chewed the plastic brake lines and left her with no brakes.

They then went to check on his Volvo C30 and discovered that they had also eaten his bonnet lining/fibreglass sound deadening stuff. :scared: :scared:
Title: Re: Flooded engine?
Post by: kabukiman on August 22, 2012, 10:18:47
That's definitely a warranty item I can't see how someone could argue otherwise, unless you had done something to cause it.

Tow it to a dealer and make a claim.  I couldn't say if you would be paid back for the tow, as it's not generally covered by any car warranties.  Do you have cover with hyundai? I believe they offer it free for one year in Australia.  I'm with RACV anyway who does it for them.  I believe they will tow it to the dealer free of charge if they can't fix it on the spot

Good luck
Title: Re: Flooded engine?
Post by: kabukiman on August 22, 2012, 10:24:47
bah, shows what happens when you don't read the whole thread.  Awesome it got fixed.

Out of interest did you get it towed through hyundai or did you pay for it?
Title: Re: Flooded engine?
Post by: Pikapolonica on August 23, 2012, 02:49:19
Didn't pay anything for the tow as I have a 20km allowance with my RACV cover.

I just had to pay the labour involved.
Title: Re: Flooded engine?
Post by: 2i30s on August 25, 2012, 00:48:05
a rodent.  :Shocked:
Title: Re: Flooded engine?
Post by: Pip on August 25, 2012, 11:49:55
Rodents like cheese and... apparently, butterflies!
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