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GOT PROBLEMS OR ISSUES? => PETROL => Topic started by: Lester on October 22, 2012, 06:37:09
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G'day again, I think I mentioned before on another thread that the A/C on my 4 month old i30 Trophy - 2L petrol engined automobile is not working right. Air is not nearly cold enough for our hot summers we get.
So today I rang our local Hyundai Dealer, Momsens at Bega, just a mere 140km down the Highjway :Shocked:
The Service Manager said sometimes a new vehicle's A/C is not gassed properly at the factory in Korea and they have had to re gas or top up a few times. Not really good enough eh? So next Monday I have to make the 280km return trip to Bega, down the Princes Hwy to get the A/C looked at and probably regassed or topped up, or to check for leakage. Warranty job of course. I wonder if I can hit Hyundai for fuel. :snigger:
(Yes, Uncle Lester believes in Fairies.) :lol:
Anyone else had A/C issues with the FD i30 ? :blubber:
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I think what they told you about the factory gas levels was probably correct. It's what I was told when I had mine regassed the first time.
Since then, I've had a new condensor and all manner of fixes done to mine. Works great now tho. Eventually.
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So much for the pre-delivery that you paid for then.
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I think what they told you about the factory gas levels was probably correct. It's what I was told when I had mine regassed the first time.
Since then, I've had a new condensor and all manner of fixes done to mine. Works great now tho. Eventually.
Fortunately I wouldn't say that was typical though, thankfully. Neither of our i30's have had a problem with the aircon.
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You must be due for more cheese anyhow, hey Lester? :whistler:
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You must be due for more cheese anyhow, hey Lester? :whistler:
Is he a mouse? :undecided: :lol:
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You must be due for more cheese anyhow, hey Lester? :whistler:
Is he a mouse? :undecided: :lol:
He has to go to Bega for a Hyundai dealer. :cool:
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Ah, Bega. NZ cheese.
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Ah, Bega. NZ cheese.
No mate not Kiwi but Bega = New South Wales - Australian Cheese, very nice. If you buy your cheese at Aldi in OZ, most of it comes from Bega. www.begacheese.com.au (http://www.begacheese.com.au) (slow loading site, but pretty.) :D Yes I will stock up next week , and if the A/C is working ok, whack the cheese in the Glove box cooler of ye i30. :P Lubberly Jubberly.
Oh, thanks to all for the feedback re A/C issues. The truth is out there! :evil:
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I'm getting confused - what were the ads that used to have the Kiwis on there talking about Cheeseday? :undecided:
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I'm getting confused - what were the ads that used to have the Kiwis on there talking about Cheeseday? :undecided:
Don't know mate, cannot recollect that ad. But I can assure you Bega Cheese is produced in the Bega Valley, NSW. The Factory is about 3 kms north of Bega Town. Access the site I mentioned above.
The Kiwis do make good cheese though, how about in W.A. you make some good cheese I believe..'Sandgroper Blue Vein perhaps. :lol:
Geez I am in strife now for going off topic. All about A/C this. :-[
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I think the Sandroper Blue Vein cheese is from Swanbourne W.A. where I don't think you need air conditioning.
There we go, :backontopic:
Other than that, I'm not really into cheeses so I don't know what we have here.
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I'm getting confused - what were the ads that used to have the Kiwis on there talking about Cheeseday? :undecided:
Maybe you're thinking of Mainland?.... :undecided:
MAINLAND Your Friend in the Fridge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fKliPe_KBY#)
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I'm getting confused - what were the ads that used to have the Kiwis on there talking about Cheeseday? :undecided:
Mainland Colby Cheese I think
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~Angel~ 's gonna have her work cut out cleaning this thread up :rolleyes:
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It's Daves fault, he just had to ask!!! :rolleyes: :whistler:
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That's the one! :thanx:
The preferred choice of automotive air conditioning specialsts nationwide. :lol:
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The rest of us are innocent, just trying to help :mrgreen: :snigger:
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I am really 'CHEESED OFF' with my a/c, hopefully fixed Monday. :lol:
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I am really 'CHEESED OFF' with my a/c, hopefully fixed Monday. :lol:
I would do my "block" if it is not fixed :whistler:
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I am really 'CHEESED OFF' with my a/c, hopefully fixed Monday. :lol:
I would do my "block" if it is not fixed :whistler:
That's a cutting remark. Are you crackers? :D
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Crikey, some 'Cheesy' comments on here. Vintage they are, although some of them are processed. :lol:
Who started all this? I started with A/C and ended up in a Cheese Factory, we all must be 'crackers.' :rofl:
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'twasn't me. :whistler:
I think it was Gorgonzola.
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G'day again readers. Well re my A/C on the i30, drove the 280 km return trip to my nearest Hyundai delaer at Bega on Monday. They took the car to the local auto electrician who checked out the A/C, found no leaks but little refrigerant in the system, so refilled it. Under warranty, no charge. But what pissed me off, excuse the French, was no apology from Service Manager or Dealer Principal, when I pointed out the A/C should have been checked out at predelivery on 19 June or at first check in August. :evil:
I feel better now. :happydance:
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At least you got a result! :goodjob:
Maybe a nicely worded letter to Hyundai Australia is in order? :whistler:
But, more importantly, did you end up getting some cheese? :lol:
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At least you got a result! :goodjob:
Maybe a nicely worded letter to Hyundai Australia is in order? :whistler:
But, more importantly, did you end up getting some cheese? :lol:
Rusty, thanks mate, your points noted, yes a letter to Hyundai Australia might be in order, Momsen Hyundai at Bega need to lift their game I reckon.
Cheese again ! :happydance: Yes mate called in at ye olde Bega Cheese Complex, got some Bega Heritage and some Pepper Corn Cheese. Whacked it in the glove box cooler. :snigger:
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I knew that glove box cooler would come in handy.... :goodjob:
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I just checked my glove box cooler. There is no cheese in there!! I might have to go to Hyundai here and complain because some of you have cheese in yours. I might ask for some nice King Island Brie....
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I just checked my glove box cooler. There is no cheese in there!! I might have to go to Hyundai here and complain because some of you have cheese in yours. I might ask for some nice King Island Brie....
You have to turn it on first. The cheese will come. :whistler:
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Glad to hear you got it sorted, Lester - with or without cheese... :rofl:
Aircon is such a nice feature to have when the summer comes... :mrgreen:
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Glad to hear you got it sorted, Lester - with or without cheese... :rofl:
Aircon is such a nice feature to have when the summer comes... :mrgreen:
Thanks mate, yes when the temperature down here hits 40C come December/January, then the A/C does come in rather useful. :rolleyes: Now in Denmark you would not get 40C would you ? Maybe -40C. :eek:
I forgot to mention, the A/C bloke put some fluro dye in the A/C so if the A/C fails again, they might be able to detect any leak with an utraviolet ligt, something like that. I am not really into such technical stuff. Anybody else heard of fluro dye being used in A/C ? :Shocked:
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I have had the fluro dye put in an A/C before, just for the reasons that you have stated. Under a "black light" it makes the leak detection easier. Yes, I have seen where it came out of my A/C too (damn compressor, damn expensive)
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Now in Denmark you would not get 40C would you ? Maybe -40C. :eek:
No & No.
Warmest day ever in DK was August 10 1975 @ 36,4°C - normal summer we have 20 -> 27ºC
Coldest day ever in DK was January 8 1982 @ 31,2ºC - normal winter we have +5 -> -20ºC
Weather has been registered in DK since 1874.
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Holy Thread resurrection Batman! Yes,... Now it's our of warranty my i30 has developed a fault on the air-con. It has good refrigerant level (I topped it up, it was low) I've read that all air on loses about 10% of its gas every year, I had about 25% left in there, so maybe a leak... I can hear the pump clutch engage on switch on but it doesn't blow cold... No fuses are gone, superficially everything looks fine... From this Thread, possible compressor? If so ill do without air-con and leave the fix to whatever dealer I part ex with when the time comes.
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how long out if warranty?
you could suggest expectation clause in sale act is longer than 5 years.
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It's a 2008 reg, it was registered on March 31st 2008, so it's 17 days out of warranty. Much chance anyone reckon? I'll drop an initial e-mail to Hyundai UK and see if they get in touch.
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E-mail sent and an auto response received saying thanks for my query via the Contact Us page and they will endeavour to respond within 2 working days. Fingers crossed.
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Keith - don't waste your time. They won't cover it and you know it :(
Just prior to having my condensor fault diagnosed 2 years ago I was told to expect a bill for £97 for a regas. I reminded them that they'd regassed it at the previous service as it was empty, so they rechecked the hardware and found a cracked joint.
So, even while within my warranty they'd expected me to fork out for more gas.
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Keith - don't waste your time. They won't cover it and you know it :(
Just prior to having my condensor fault diagnosed 2 years ago I was told to expect a bill for £97 for a regas. I reminded them that they'd regassed it at the previous service as it was empty, so they rechecked the hardware and found a cracked joint.
So, even while within my warranty they'd expected me to fork out for more gas.
I know you're right Steve but one has to try yeah? Nothing to lose, everything to gain.
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All my crossed fingers are belong to you
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are you on good terms with local dealer?
i’d be giving them a visit as your last service must have been just recently and may have been documented.
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I've had this very issue happen with my GD i30. The service centre will be replacing the condenser, high pressure hoses, and various o-rings and clamps. A re-gas will also be done.
Wasn't terribly impressed but glad it hadn't happened during a muggy summer. At least the parts turned around quickly from Korea, I only put it in for the problem two weeks ago.
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I'm not on terms with my local dealer TBH, I didn't rate them at all and did my latest service myself. But really, there isn't anything to do with Air-con on the Servicing schedule is there?
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thought part of service was a general health check of all working parts.
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My dealer service didn't even include a wash before returning it, or itemisation of the parts or fluids they fitted so I can't see them doing anything other than a basic minimum.
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E-mail reply apologising for the trouble and advising me to take the car to my local Hy dealer to investigate, not being too dumb I have asked if there will be a charge for such an inspection... I'll keep you all informed.
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E-mail reply apologising for the trouble and advising me to take the car to my local Hy dealer to investigate, not being too dumb I have asked if there will be a charge for such an inspection... I'll keep you all informed.
I would take the reply as being FOC
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The A/C system in my i30 requires a 100 gr refill every spring.
If there's a leak or the fluid vapours I don't know, and really don't care. If a small refill once a year can keep the A/C going, then I'm fine about that.. :mrgreen:
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On both cars I've had air con and I've never had to refill.
What are the signs to look for if it needs a refill
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It becomes slowly less efficient with the normal slow loss (5 to 10% a year purportedly) until it stops working due to lack of pressure. Fact is that as refrigerant leaks out, air and contaminants get in, it happens at the various joints and seals, especially at the compressor rotor. The contaminants and air need to be removed via a vacuum pump before a re-gass can be properly effective. Anyway, Hy UK have advised me there will be a charge to investigate and see.... But as luck would have it I seem to have fixed it... Well partly at least!
Forgot to mention that I also checked my daughters Coupe & found the pressure on that low too... It's also a 2008. So that's done as well now... I bought a £30 self check & re-fill kit. Apparently success is never guaranteed but happens on around 30% of examples where simple refrigerant loss is the cause and it hasn't gone too far for too long. In our case, 5 years and 35 - 45k miles.
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Great work Keith.
... I bought a £30 self check & re-fill kit...
Is there any particular kit you'd recommend?
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Great work Keith.
... I bought a £30 self check & re-fill kit...
Is there any particular kit you'd recommend?
No Steve, I don't know enough on the subject to recommend. I bought mine from Halfords, did a deal with them on the connector / pressure gauge. I get £10 back when I return the pressure tin the refrigerant comes in so I'm keen to get full benefit from the contents!
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Thanks Keith. Hmmm Halfords eh... I think I'll give them a try as I think I'm getting low.
ETA: Was it this kit?
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_812353_langId_-1_categoryId_165632 (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_812353_langId_-1_categoryId_165632)
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FWIW, I THINK refrigerant has a dye in it that can be seen with UV light, so if you suspect a leak, it may be worth investigating. :idea:
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Thanks Keith. Hmmm Halfords eh... I think I'll give them a try as I think I'm getting low.
ETA: Was it this kit?
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_812353_langId_-1_categoryId_165632 (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_812353_langId_-1_categoryId_165632)
Yeah that's the one, haggle on the gauge tho! I to
D them the kit wasn't worth what they wanted as it made the cost close to or the same as a visit to a place like Eurofit who do the whole job for that money! Trouble with them is that they may find something they "have to do" that ups the final invoice value!
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FWIW, I THINK refrigerant has a dye in it that can be seen with UV light, so if you suspect a leak, it may be worth investigating. :idea:
You can pay to have a dye added that is eye visible and is fluorescent in UV light.
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I just ordered the same kit Keith 'advised' - gas container + feed gauge + free cleaner + 3.03% topcashback. Collect in 1 hour.
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I just ordered the same kit Keith 'advised' - gas container + feed gauge + free cleaner + 3.03% topcashback. Collect in 1 hour.
Hope it works for you Steve. Instructions are pretty straight forward, just take care not to over-fill, too much refrigerant isnt good, the optimum amount is really hard to judge but start at the lower end (around 25 I think)
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Well my pressure was showing around the 27psi mark when I first checked it :D
After a few minutes of shaking and pressurising, shaking and pressurising, it showed... around 27psi :eek:
Then I decided it would be a good idea to screw the canister all the way into the delivery gauge :-[
But strangely, the system didn't want to accept any of it. Maybe it's full up. Doesn't feel particularly cold. Ah well.