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Title: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: Ugly Mongrel on December 15, 2012, 02:22:28
When will it ever end?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-15/28-shot-dead-in-us-school-shooting/4429384 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-15/28-shot-dead-in-us-school-shooting/4429384)
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: komaterpillar on December 15, 2012, 03:13:57
thats #ucked. what sort of scumbag opens up on kindergarten kids? and then takes himself out  :disapp:
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: Ugly Mongrel on December 15, 2012, 03:20:53
thats #ucked. what sort of scumbag opens up on kindergarten kids? and then takes himself out  :disapp:


Couldn't agree more, Brett. What a brave bastard he must have been!!!
 :disapp:
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: Doggie 1 on December 15, 2012, 04:03:55
Poor little buggers.
R.I.P.
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: Phil №❶ on December 15, 2012, 07:29:46
Stephen Hawking might be right,"there is no God"  :(
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: Dazzler on December 15, 2012, 07:34:08
Just imagine the few in the room that survived (they will be screwed for life) and just think of how many would be effected by the ripple effect of that many kids dying like that ... Siblings, Parents, Aunts, Uncles, Grandparents  .. the list goes on and on...  :blubber: :disapp:
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: 2i30s on December 15, 2012, 09:30:27
  :disapp::blubber:
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: FatBoy on December 15, 2012, 10:03:28
 :blubber:

Poor little buggers.  A very sad day indeed.  My thoughts go out to all of those affected.

Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: Ugly Mongrel on December 15, 2012, 10:06:27
RIP Victoria. You did better than your best and you are an inspiration.

 http://mobile.news.com.au/world/teacher-victoria-soto-threw-herself-in-front-of-her-students-to-save-them-at-sandy-hook-elementary-school/story-fndir2ev-1226537530317 (http://mobile.news.com.au/world/teacher-victoria-soto-threw-herself-in-front-of-her-students-to-save-them-at-sandy-hook-elementary-school/story-fndir2ev-1226537530317)

Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: Phil №❶ on December 15, 2012, 10:09:46
John 15:13

Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: Doggie 1 on December 15, 2012, 10:10:50
My God, true heroes.
Hid her kids and was murdered herself.
Shocking stuff.
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: Dazzler on December 15, 2012, 10:12:12
Thanks for the link (i think)  :blubber: :blubber:
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: Ugly Mongrel on December 15, 2012, 10:36:59
Thanks for the link (i think)  :blubber: :blubber:

 For every evil bastard that walks this Earth, there is one Angel like Victoria. May she Rest In Peace.
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: Asterix on December 15, 2012, 14:21:34
That is scary stuff, indeed.

Even though this seem to happen again and again in the US, the people and members of the government doesn't seem to believe there's anything wrong with their weapon law.. :scared:
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: flydon on December 15, 2012, 16:36:44
I do not own a gun now, though I have in the past, for rabbit/bird hunting.
I don't think the problems the US is having is due to guns, it is  the availability of guns to people who have mental problems, and should not have them accessible.
I worked in a sports shop when I retired from my 32 year career position. We sold all types of guns in the store, hand,rifles and shotguns.
Before I handed over a gun for prospective customers I ALWAYS duble checked for ammo in the guns, and left the action open. I NEVER felt worried doing this, but, I also had a lot of knives under the counter, from pocket knives to machetes,when I showed a customer those weapons, I always stayed WELL back of the counter, since I had no idea of the customer's intentions and mental condition.
The guns don't kill people, people kill people.
Apparently from what I saw on CNN, this person was known to have mental problems,why was he allowed to get his hands on these guns?
In Canada hand guns are a restricted firearm, not anyone can buy one.
ALL firearms must be either trigger-locked and/or in a safe, and NOT loaded.
Don
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: 2i30s on December 15, 2012, 20:22:29
apparently the guns belonged to his mother,the police found 2 on him and 2 in his car and 2 more at his home.  :disapp:
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: 2i30s on December 15, 2012, 21:07:07
i just heard on the news there was 16 6 year olds and 4 4year olds killed,very sad.  :twisted: :blubber: :blubber:
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: Ugly Mongrel on December 15, 2012, 21:15:09
Why the hell would you want to kill four and six year old kids? Probably because the bastard who did this knew they couldn't fight back. Filthy coward!!!!!
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: Phil №❶ on December 15, 2012, 21:21:01
I've been fortunate enough to have had 2 children pass those ages. It was a long time ago now, but I can still remember it well. If something like this happened, it would rip my heart out & I would be gutted.

I hope those involved, are truly supported by their relatives, friends and the system, they're going to need it.  :(

Those killed have been called to heaven early, no illness or Earthly worries, no more harm can come to them, bless them all. :Prayer:
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: 2i30s on December 15, 2012, 21:37:41
i just heard on the news there was 16 6 year olds and 4 4year olds killed,very sad.  :twisted: :blubber: :blubber:
sorry i made a mistake about the 4 year olds,it was 4 7 year olds. still gutwrenching.
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: Ugly Mongrel on December 25, 2012, 12:41:50
And it just goes on and on :disapp:

 http://m.couriermail.com.au/news/world/firefighters-shot-trying-to-save-lives-in-webster-new-york/story-fnd12peo-1226543177223 (http://m.couriermail.com.au/news/world/firefighters-shot-trying-to-save-lives-in-webster-new-york/story-fnd12peo-1226543177223)
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: Doggie 1 on December 25, 2012, 12:54:45
What is wrong with these people?  :confused:
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: Ugly Mongrel on December 25, 2012, 13:03:44
What is wrong with these people?  :confused:

Guns!!!
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: Doggie 1 on December 25, 2012, 13:14:15
What is wrong with these people?  :confused:

Guns!!!

I mean the ones doing the shooting. Lots of people in the U.S.have guns.
I really don't see how they will be able to reverse the gun ownership situation.
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: flydon on December 25, 2012, 16:23:52
Apparently the mother owned the guns, she liked guns, she also knew her son had mental problems.
Again, I do not NOW own guns, but they do not shoot themselves.
Remember the guy also in Norway?? who killed all those school kids.
Don
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: Phil №❶ on December 25, 2012, 19:51:17
I really don't see how they will be able to reverse the gun ownership situation.

They have a constitutional right to bear arms, so they'd have to rescind that 1st, good luck with that one.
Then a voluntary surrendering of weapons, (only the law abiding citizens would do that, as in Oz), so that leaves the crims and mental defects armed still.  :fum:

Just not going to happen IMO.
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: 2i30s on December 25, 2012, 20:46:01
in 1880 they had a necessity to bare arms for safety,now they don't.  :disapp:  not one of those gunmen stopped shooting Innocent people due to being shot dead by an armed citizen.  :wacko:
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: Surferdude on December 26, 2012, 00:34:23
in 1880 they had a necessity to bare arms for safety,now they don't.  :disapp:  not one of those gunmen stopped shooting Innocent people due to being shot dead by an armed citizen.  :wacko:

In 1776, pretty much all the guns (I believe) were single shot muskets and pistols. As far as I'm concerned, the constitution can be interpreted to continue to allow them. But any kind of revolver, or automatic weapon did not exist and should not be covered by it.

However, I agree with Phil. It's all gone too far to ever wind it back. I've seen them interviewing gun owners recently and they all say they'd ignore the law if it was brought in.
Nightmare stuff.
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: 2i30s on December 26, 2012, 02:46:24
looks like they'll need to build more prisons.  :wacko:
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: rustynutz on December 26, 2012, 03:17:41
in 1880 they had a necessity to bare arms for safety,now they don't.  :disapp:  not one of those gunmen stopped shooting Innocent people due to being shot dead by an armed citizen.  :wacko:

In 1776, pretty much all the guns (I believe) were single shot muskets and pistols. As far as I'm concerned, the constitution can be interpreted to continue to allow them. But any kind of revolver, or automatic weapon did not exist and should not be covered by it.

However, I agree with Phil. It's all gone too far to ever wind it back. I've seen them interviewing gun owners recently and they all say they'd ignore the law if it was brought in.
Nightmare stuff.

Doesn't the constitution give the people the right to keep and bear arms?
"Arms" are weapons, according to my dictionary so all weapons are surely covered by the constitution...  :undecided:
Title: Re: America's bloody gun culture!!!
Post by: Doggie 1 on December 26, 2012, 03:20:44
I think that's the point being made here. The constitution would need to be amended to disallow certain types of weapons.
I wish them well with that.  :whistler:
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